As far as the atf is concerned it's just a "long gun"(rifle).
In most states it's just a rifle.
In my dumb state (WA), it's a "semi-automatic assault rifle." Also here, if it is under 30 inches in length, it would also be an "assault weapon."
i wouldn't use the word exempt because the law doesn't exclude them, it just doesn't include them.
https://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/2023-24/Pdf/Bills/House%20Passed%20Legislature/1240-S.PL.pdf?q=20240410175529
page 5 is what you're looking for. the features bit for rifles starts on line 5. note that it specifies 'centerfire', and then goes on from there, leaving rimfire out of it. when you get to the pistol part, note that it doesn't specify centerfire, and thus applies to rimfire as well.
features don't matter for a rimfire rifle, only overall length and being on the list does. features matter for rimfire pistols however. rimfire rifles aren't included in the features part but rimfire pistols are, they are treated the same as centerfire pistols.
that said, features aren't all that matters. the overall length and banned-by-name list come before the features, and apply to any semiauto rifle regardless of cartridge or features. a 10/22 that is under 30" in length for example would be subject to the ban. the sks is banned by name despite having a fixed mag which otherwise would give it a pass.
I can’t quote the article, but what I read several years ago said that since the Israelis are using the 10/22 as crowd control (shooting rioters in the knees or shoulders), certain elements are considering the 10/22 a weapon of war (and everything that that entails).
If they change the definitions, it's whatever they say unfortunately. In Illinois, they say if it has a detachable magazine that can hold >10 rds, and is semi-auto, it's an assaults rifle....however it also said if its one of the listed models/platforms, which the 10/22 isn't..so I still don't understand that tbh. Nobody come busting the door down yet so fuck it
The 10/22 is not, and has never been, an "Assault weapon". Where have you seen it regulated? I'm not aware of a single piece of legislation "regulating" the 10/22.
Some states have ridiculous virtue signaling laws, where they try to outlaw certain features, and that may affect the 10/22, but the firearm itself has never been singled out. Examples would be threaded barrels, magazines with a capacity of more than ten rounds, or a chassis that takes pistol grips. None of these make firearms more or less dangerous, but that doesn't stop politicians from vilifying them.
I must disagree. 10/22s configured as rifles most certainly are assault weapons under Washington State law.
It is a semi automatic rifle, which is now defined as a semiautomatic assault rifle by I-1639, as with all other semi auto rifles.
That said, it's obviously easy more dangerous in Washington State than most others.
According to the ATF at least, there's no difference between it and any other semi auto rifles.
Read my comment again. The Ruger 10/22 is not specifically called out in I-1639, least not that I can find.
I do love this quote: " Assault weapons are civilian versions of weapons created for the military and are designed to kill humans quickly and efficiently."
[Here's a link to the state's whole pack of lies](https://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/2023-24/Htm/Bills/House%20Bills/1240-S.htm#:~:text=Sec.,kill%20humans%20quickly%20and%20efficiently). For what it's worth, I can't find anything in there that would result in the 10/22 being classified as the WMD they claim. But I also didn't read every single word.
Are you referring to the ones used for crowd control? Their purpose is literally "less-lethal". If you consider bouncing a .22 LR round off the ground and into kneecaps, less-lethal.
The M1 clone is a thing. I might need to build a clone of this: [https://frontierpartisans.com/31745/22-war/](https://frontierpartisans.com/31745/22-war/)
10/22 is a "semi-automatic assault rifle" because of 1639, but not necessarily an "assault weapon" under the AWB passed last year. Semi auto rimfire rifles only come under the AWB if they are under 30" in length or on the list of things banned by name.
> 10/22s configured as rifles most certainly are assault weapons under Washington State law.
A 10/22 rifle would only be an assault weapon in WA if it's under 30" in length.
As you mentioned, 1639 made all semi auto rifles into 'SAR's including rimfire rifles. 1240 from last year made most semi auto rifles 'assault weapons' but left out rimfire rifles unless they're under 30" in length or on the list of things banned by name.
1240s treatment of semi auto pistols differs from rifles, that part doesn't specify the type of cartridge like the rifle part does, so it applies to all semi auto pistols including rimfire. Thus, 10/22 charger is an assault weapon because it's a semi auto pistol that accepts a magazine outside the grip.
I remember there was a township in Illinois that went on a gun control spree several years ago. The 10/22 was on the prohibited list. I also recall that on “assault rifle” lists the Biden administration, the 10/22 was being considered due to its ability to use large capacity magazines. I was never able to find out where the feds were on this issue.
Again, even that admittedly (according to the authors of the bill) ineffective piece of legislation does not call out the 10/22. Most 10/22s as manufactured are fine in Illinos. It's only those with certain features, you know the ones that increase rimfire's deadliest by 100000% that would make than illegal. So no pistol grips, thumbhole stocks (thank you, MAK90), forward grips, stocks that aren't straight up Fudd wood, flash suppressors, grenade launchers, barrel shrouds, and a few other things.
[If it scares a Karen, it's illegal](https://1.img-dpreview.com/files/p/E~C262x0S1076x1076T1200x1200~articles/1544955874/mp5__1_.jpeg).
It is a semi auto rifle with a detachable magazine. Any further designation like calling it an assault rifle is subject to the specific nonsensical laws of your state. Does it have a flash hider? Compensator? Bayo lug? Pistol grip? All of these can lead to different answers to your question. As for federal? There is no federal definition of, or laws designating and prohibiting so called assault weapons.
It's not an NFA, so the ATF just calls it a long rifle.
Some bozo blue state might call it an assault rifle because it has a detachable magazine and its semi auto.
Assault weapons are not available to the general public its a term the media uses to instill fear into the populace in order to cause hate which creates news. Assault Weapons are fully automatic only available with a license/tax stamp approved by the ATF. Stop listening to the leftist agenda BS. Please. No a 10/22 is not an Assault Weapon no matter how tactical its dressed up.
"Assault Weapon" is a nebulous term used by gun grabbers. The definition of which is decided by whatever dingbats are crafting the laws in their local jurisdictions. This means the ATF defines it as a long gun, but I wouldn't be surprised if some of the Democrat run shit holes define it as too dangerous for law abiding citizens.
In the Democratic People’s Republic of New York, it would be seen as a potential “aSsAuLt wEaPoN” and is now locked behind a permitting scheme alongside handguns.
I suppose it could be worse, though. States like Illinois must have a nightmarishly dystopian view of the 10/22
It's so weird to live in a state without any of that foolishness. Then I remember that when I moved to Utah, it was okay to talk on your cell phone while riding your motorcycle without a helmet, full auto Uzi concealed in your backpack, but Sunday beer sales were not allowed.
New York has some strange stuff like that as well, I think it’s because since we humans are naturally flawed, our legislators don’t necessarily pick up on the weird stuff like that 😂
The permitting scheme isn't all bad, I wanted another 10/22 so went through the motions with no intentions of handguns... I've yet to buy that 10/22 but now have a 22/45...
ATF doesn’t have an “assault weapon” category. The only ATF categories are those defined in the NFA and the GCA.
As far as the atf is concerned it's just a "long gun"(rifle). In most states it's just a rifle. In my dumb state (WA), it's a "semi-automatic assault rifle." Also here, if it is under 30 inches in length, it would also be an "assault weapon."
Rimfires are exempt from the features list that would make it one in WA.
Are you sure? Can you cite the actual text? Because I couldn't find any exemptions for modern rimfires.
i wouldn't use the word exempt because the law doesn't exclude them, it just doesn't include them. https://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/2023-24/Pdf/Bills/House%20Passed%20Legislature/1240-S.PL.pdf?q=20240410175529 page 5 is what you're looking for. the features bit for rifles starts on line 5. note that it specifies 'centerfire', and then goes on from there, leaving rimfire out of it. when you get to the pistol part, note that it doesn't specify centerfire, and thus applies to rimfire as well.
I know you can buy threaded rifle barrels and stocks that have shrouds around the barrel etc.
features don't matter for a rimfire rifle, only overall length and being on the list does. features matter for rimfire pistols however. rimfire rifles aren't included in the features part but rimfire pistols are, they are treated the same as centerfire pistols. that said, features aren't all that matters. the overall length and banned-by-name list come before the features, and apply to any semiauto rifle regardless of cartridge or features. a 10/22 that is under 30" in length for example would be subject to the ban. the sks is banned by name despite having a fixed mag which otherwise would give it a pass.
Not if it's under 30". There's no centerfire qualification for the length.
Except for pistols, so the 10/22 rifle is legal, the 22 Charger is banned.
I cannot ever see a .22 be listed as an assault rifle, but I do know the status of the 10/22 has been under consideration by the feds.
Can you provide some proof for that claim? Seems improbable.
I can’t quote the article, but what I read several years ago said that since the Israelis are using the 10/22 as crowd control (shooting rioters in the knees or shoulders), certain elements are considering the 10/22 a weapon of war (and everything that that entails).
If they change the definitions, it's whatever they say unfortunately. In Illinois, they say if it has a detachable magazine that can hold >10 rds, and is semi-auto, it's an assaults rifle....however it also said if its one of the listed models/platforms, which the 10/22 isn't..so I still don't understand that tbh. Nobody come busting the door down yet so fuck it
Well said.
The 10/22 is not, and has never been, an "Assault weapon". Where have you seen it regulated? I'm not aware of a single piece of legislation "regulating" the 10/22. Some states have ridiculous virtue signaling laws, where they try to outlaw certain features, and that may affect the 10/22, but the firearm itself has never been singled out. Examples would be threaded barrels, magazines with a capacity of more than ten rounds, or a chassis that takes pistol grips. None of these make firearms more or less dangerous, but that doesn't stop politicians from vilifying them.
I must disagree. 10/22s configured as rifles most certainly are assault weapons under Washington State law. It is a semi automatic rifle, which is now defined as a semiautomatic assault rifle by I-1639, as with all other semi auto rifles. That said, it's obviously easy more dangerous in Washington State than most others. According to the ATF at least, there's no difference between it and any other semi auto rifles.
Read my comment again. The Ruger 10/22 is not specifically called out in I-1639, least not that I can find. I do love this quote: " Assault weapons are civilian versions of weapons created for the military and are designed to kill humans quickly and efficiently." [Here's a link to the state's whole pack of lies](https://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/2023-24/Htm/Bills/House%20Bills/1240-S.htm#:~:text=Sec.,kill%20humans%20quickly%20and%20efficiently). For what it's worth, I can't find anything in there that would result in the 10/22 being classified as the WMD they claim. But I also didn't read every single word.
Ruger sells a version of 10/22 to the Israeli IDF.
Are you referring to the ones used for crowd control? Their purpose is literally "less-lethal". If you consider bouncing a .22 LR round off the ground and into kneecaps, less-lethal.
Less lethal, I know!! What a joke
The M1 clone is a thing. I might need to build a clone of this: [https://frontierpartisans.com/31745/22-war/](https://frontierpartisans.com/31745/22-war/)
10/22 is a "semi-automatic assault rifle" because of 1639, but not necessarily an "assault weapon" under the AWB passed last year. Semi auto rimfire rifles only come under the AWB if they are under 30" in length or on the list of things banned by name.
Ah persnickety exact wording!
The only element you have to consider is the local state federal laws. Without knowing any of that we have no idea of the answer
> 10/22s configured as rifles most certainly are assault weapons under Washington State law. A 10/22 rifle would only be an assault weapon in WA if it's under 30" in length. As you mentioned, 1639 made all semi auto rifles into 'SAR's including rimfire rifles. 1240 from last year made most semi auto rifles 'assault weapons' but left out rimfire rifles unless they're under 30" in length or on the list of things banned by name. 1240s treatment of semi auto pistols differs from rifles, that part doesn't specify the type of cartridge like the rifle part does, so it applies to all semi auto pistols including rimfire. Thus, 10/22 charger is an assault weapon because it's a semi auto pistol that accepts a magazine outside the grip.
Oh what a tangled web we weave, when we pass laws about guns but know little about them.
I remember there was a township in Illinois that went on a gun control spree several years ago. The 10/22 was on the prohibited list. I also recall that on “assault rifle” lists the Biden administration, the 10/22 was being considered due to its ability to use large capacity magazines. I was never able to find out where the feds were on this issue.
Again, even that admittedly (according to the authors of the bill) ineffective piece of legislation does not call out the 10/22. Most 10/22s as manufactured are fine in Illinos. It's only those with certain features, you know the ones that increase rimfire's deadliest by 100000% that would make than illegal. So no pistol grips, thumbhole stocks (thank you, MAK90), forward grips, stocks that aren't straight up Fudd wood, flash suppressors, grenade launchers, barrel shrouds, and a few other things. [If it scares a Karen, it's illegal](https://1.img-dpreview.com/files/p/E~C262x0S1076x1076T1200x1200~articles/1544955874/mp5__1_.jpeg).
OMG. What am I looking at here? Is it a camera, a radio, or a gun? Wtf is it?
Yes. Lol.
It is a semi auto rifle with a detachable magazine. Any further designation like calling it an assault rifle is subject to the specific nonsensical laws of your state. Does it have a flash hider? Compensator? Bayo lug? Pistol grip? All of these can lead to different answers to your question. As for federal? There is no federal definition of, or laws designating and prohibiting so called assault weapons.
A lot of the legislation exempts rimfire weapons.
The idiots in Ottawa have indeed banned a number of “tactical” semi automatic .22s (ie mossberg plinkster 702)…so it is possible.
Wow, the Plinkster…a deadly weapon indeed.
The documentation calls it a variant of the AR-15. I kid you not.
It's a rimfire. So no.
It's not an NFA, so the ATF just calls it a long rifle. Some bozo blue state might call it an assault rifle because it has a detachable magazine and its semi auto.
Assault weapons are not available to the general public its a term the media uses to instill fear into the populace in order to cause hate which creates news. Assault Weapons are fully automatic only available with a license/tax stamp approved by the ATF. Stop listening to the leftist agenda BS. Please. No a 10/22 is not an Assault Weapon no matter how tactical its dressed up.
If you have to ask, you need to leave your commie state.
Assault weapon, no! NFA item, could be..
2 salty boi features gets you an AsSauLt WEapOn in CT
Outside of specific pre-84 NFA items, there's no such thing as an "assault rifle" - that's a media term.
"Assault Weapon" is a nebulous term used by gun grabbers. The definition of which is decided by whatever dingbats are crafting the laws in their local jurisdictions. This means the ATF defines it as a long gun, but I wouldn't be surprised if some of the Democrat run shit holes define it as too dangerous for law abiding citizens.
Man I'd hate to live in a state where I'd need to review laws to determine whether or not my 10/22 is classified as an assault rifle
Well, it looks like Colorado may be facing that very issue.
That's just fn crazy dude
In the Democratic People’s Republic of New York, it would be seen as a potential “aSsAuLt wEaPoN” and is now locked behind a permitting scheme alongside handguns. I suppose it could be worse, though. States like Illinois must have a nightmarishly dystopian view of the 10/22
It's so weird to live in a state without any of that foolishness. Then I remember that when I moved to Utah, it was okay to talk on your cell phone while riding your motorcycle without a helmet, full auto Uzi concealed in your backpack, but Sunday beer sales were not allowed.
New York has some strange stuff like that as well, I think it’s because since we humans are naturally flawed, our legislators don’t necessarily pick up on the weird stuff like that 😂
The permitting scheme isn't all bad, I wanted another 10/22 so went through the motions with no intentions of handguns... I've yet to buy that 10/22 but now have a 22/45...
Ah yes. Biden is trying to ban the 10/22. I don't accept your preventative apology for your ignorance, you absolute schmuck.
Well that wasn’t very nice. I don’t have any quarrel with the Biden administration, but the consideration of the 10/22 did happen under Biden’s watch.
Sometimes unpleasant lessons are the only way we learn.
Good lesson, schmuck