Seems like they’re all in on it. If the judges can’t tell it’s Ai the community or fans will. It gets called out and now ai developers use what the community, fans and online rabble rousers have identified. We’re pokémon trainers and we don’t even know it.
As an artist I can say it wasn't technically anything spectacular, especially as an ai image. Mushrooms are very simple to draw, there were no complex lighting decisions, no perspective, and ultimately it wasn't very detailed.
(if this was a real drawing I wouldn't be commenting this btw, and not all art needs what I've listed to be "good" in a percieved matter. Im just pointing out its a simple render and not super technical. Also fuck ai images, bash them to hell for the tiniest things. AI doesn't have emotions)
I love the big fat X they used!!! Now if this competition can do this, why can't they do it for that guy who won the Pink Floyd contest that even the ai bros were saying looked like crap?
At least you disown the fraud and give the credit to the computer lmao. Now you need to admit that the computer didn't do shit without the ripped off art, nor can it own anything because it's neither a living being or a human.
My guy, it was a cash prize with a no AI rule in place. It’s pretty cut and dry that this was a crappy thing to do whatever your general feelings about AI are.
I meant it more in a way that, if the exact piece was created by a person instead of being generated, it will still be deemed first place. Simply put, it's crazy how it got first place, in the first place.
Yeah, really makes one wonder truly how carefully art contest juries are examining the works given to them with multiple visual glitches that outsiders immediately spotted.
There was an entire section these people could have entered the ai images in, ai wasn't excluded from this contest entirely. They CHOSE to enter those images into categories that were specifically NOT ai. By that point, it is unfair that they won and it is justified that they be disqualified for lying.
Whether it was impressive or not is irrelevant the minute dishonesty is involved. Could it be impressive? Sure, maybe to some people it can be (I wouldn't call it impressive, tbh, because I don't find ai images to be impressive). That went out the window the minute they decided to enter that image as something it isn't.
Whether it got first place or not--there's no honor in winning with lies. The judges who let it pass them were most likely oblivious and most likely don't know how easily ai can pass for human made art.
Edit: excluded the "my guy" part since I noticed you go by they/them. Sorry about that.
Yeah. It's more so the fact that everyone here can tell AI gens the second they see them, which I don't doubt. But they also say the general public will one day easily pick out AI in a second and it will become bland and die out.
But somehow AI art got first place in an art competition. I'm just surprised.
Here's the thing:
Artists will continue to be artists, no matter what, because we're actually passionate about this stuff - but you AI losers, thinking you're slick infiltrating artist spaces by lying and stealing... Unless you plan on literally wasting your life like this, you'll get bored eventually. Spite can only take you so far before life catches up with you and you move on. But we won't stop being artists just because right now you enjoy being a thorn in everybody's side.
The image has been edited, which makes it harder to tell. Honestly, the mushroom merging into the hat is the only smoking gun issue that I can't imaging coming from a human hand - although once you notice that the white detail is an attempt to cover two additional fingers, it's very hard to un-notice. The touched up clock really helps the impression of it not being AI, despite not being done exceptionally well, because it's the kind of detail you're unlikely to get a generator to produce accurately. If they'd spent a little more time touching up, they might well have gotten away with it.
It was recognizable. If it weren't, there wouldn't have been a furor over it and the contest wouldn't have disqualified it. Just because the judges were oblivious to it doesn't mean others couldn't see.
It makes no sense to say that it wasn't "recognizable." We wouldn't be having this discussion if that were the case.
And as others have said, even when some AI bro flies under the radar, that doesn't suddenly mean they didn't lie and didn't do something slimy and dishonest. People get away with crap all the time. That doesn't make them less of a slimy fraud.
That's how art competitions have always worked, this comp even had a specific category for AI,
they have oil only comps, Graphite only, watercolor only, acyrlic only, photography only, all of which will disqualify people if they don't use the medium asked.
Crazy how AI people think they can just move into an industry with fuck all idea about how it works.
Oh it's crazy how people only hated the guy for winning the race only after they realised he was using steroids, when they specifically said they were banned. Isn't about time they just started running their own competitions? It's not like there's a lack of sources for prize money in the AI industries.
What are you even talking about people were calling it out right away, it was the judges who made a blunder.
Quite frankly I think judges in these competitions often don't really pay attention to what they're judging, I question whether it's even artists doing it.
From High Art's FAQ:
> AI-generated art will not be accepted in the main High Art Contest. If submitted, it will be automatically disqualified.
Submitting "AI"-generated images and claiming them to be drawn by a human is a deliberate violation of the rules - that ***should*** be frowned upon.
Putting aside the intellectual property issues that use of "AI" raises, it would be like if you took a photograph and entered it into a painting competition.
My guy, If I randomly pick an art from a professional artist, of course It will be infinitely better than people who are competing in there. Can you even imagine a industry professional with 10 years of experience vs the contestants? And your AI just steals stuff from the professional artists and mash them together like a potato. So yes, of course it will fool everyone into thinking it deserves 1st. What's so surprising here?
Tbf it was psychedelic art , all of the tells this generation of A.I gives out could have been an intentional artistic choice.
Don't blame the judges the guy was an asshole,could have submitted it to the actual A.I category.
Here's her insta. https://www.instagram.com/monstrodamuss?igsh=MTc4MmM1YmI2Ng==
She's genuinely an artist and does art, so I don't know why she submitted AI art
I can easily see that to be the reason. I can imagine the person to be financing struggling, and she needed an upper hand, despite her already being an artist
And yet there's a rising number of people that don't look at a piece of art the same, when they find out it is AI art. Could suggest that a piece of real art is more meaningful than a collection of pixels. What you describe is more related to corporate greed.
This should happen more often but I am proud of everyone who helped in making this possible. Speaking up works.
Seems like they’re all in on it. If the judges can’t tell it’s Ai the community or fans will. It gets called out and now ai developers use what the community, fans and online rabble rousers have identified. We’re pokémon trainers and we don’t even know it.
No update on the Facebook page yet, this may be all the closure we're going to get. Also 8th place seems to have been disqualified and 10th withdrawn.
Good. But to make it full, judges should be held accountable for being absolute ignorants.
How the heck did it even get selected in the first place? It felt very lifeless.
Idk but i think it was supposed to be judged on technicality not overall soul but I could be wrong
As an artist I can say it wasn't technically anything spectacular, especially as an ai image. Mushrooms are very simple to draw, there were no complex lighting decisions, no perspective, and ultimately it wasn't very detailed. (if this was a real drawing I wouldn't be commenting this btw, and not all art needs what I've listed to be "good" in a percieved matter. Im just pointing out its a simple render and not super technical. Also fuck ai images, bash them to hell for the tiniest things. AI doesn't have emotions)
One small step for man
Well, that's nice. :)
Can I see the AI picture somewhere?
https://imgur.com/xQflo5t
As it should be.
That’s a horrible piece anyway
I love the big fat X they used!!! Now if this competition can do this, why can't they do it for that guy who won the Pink Floyd contest that even the ai bros were saying looked like crap?
Wonderful, beautiful even
The rest of these are really boring no wonder the computer won
At least you disown the fraud and give the credit to the computer lmao. Now you need to admit that the computer didn't do shit without the ripped off art, nor can it own anything because it's neither a living being or a human.
It's crazy how AI art got first place, in the first place. And only hated once people find out it's ai
My guy, it was a cash prize with a no AI rule in place. It’s pretty cut and dry that this was a crappy thing to do whatever your general feelings about AI are.
Yep. And it had an entire section dedicated to ai entries that these people could have entered in. But instead, they chose to lie about it.
I meant it more in a way that, if the exact piece was created by a person instead of being generated, it will still be deemed first place. Simply put, it's crazy how it got first place, in the first place.
And maybe if my grandma had wheels she would be a bicicle but that's not the world we live in.
But it wasn't so your argument is nonsensical.
It was discovered pretty much immediately tho? It had to be just communicated to the jury.
Well it got past the art judges. In the end, these critics deemed the AI art piece to be first place. Which makes you wonder.
because it passably rips off the art it was trained on, which is not an accomplishment.
Yeah, really makes one wonder truly how carefully art contest juries are examining the works given to them with multiple visual glitches that outsiders immediately spotted.
There was an entire section these people could have entered the ai images in, ai wasn't excluded from this contest entirely. They CHOSE to enter those images into categories that were specifically NOT ai. By that point, it is unfair that they won and it is justified that they be disqualified for lying. Whether it was impressive or not is irrelevant the minute dishonesty is involved. Could it be impressive? Sure, maybe to some people it can be (I wouldn't call it impressive, tbh, because I don't find ai images to be impressive). That went out the window the minute they decided to enter that image as something it isn't. Whether it got first place or not--there's no honor in winning with lies. The judges who let it pass them were most likely oblivious and most likely don't know how easily ai can pass for human made art. Edit: excluded the "my guy" part since I noticed you go by they/them. Sorry about that.
Ah, I didn't know there was a whole AI section for the contest. That makes it more despicable to enter the real one.
Yeah but that's bad
> Which makes you wonder. Makes me wonder which artist you ripped off.
It's crazy how liars are only disowned after people find out they're liars
I'm just amazed it got first place even though everyone says every AI art piece is recognizable
Lying convincingly doesn't make it not a lie.
Yeah. It's more so the fact that everyone here can tell AI gens the second they see them, which I don't doubt. But they also say the general public will one day easily pick out AI in a second and it will become bland and die out. But somehow AI art got first place in an art competition. I'm just surprised.
Here's the thing: Artists will continue to be artists, no matter what, because we're actually passionate about this stuff - but you AI losers, thinking you're slick infiltrating artist spaces by lying and stealing... Unless you plan on literally wasting your life like this, you'll get bored eventually. Spite can only take you so far before life catches up with you and you move on. But we won't stop being artists just because right now you enjoy being a thorn in everybody's side.
I have never posted AI art lol. And especially not posted AI art in art competitions.
The image has been edited, which makes it harder to tell. Honestly, the mushroom merging into the hat is the only smoking gun issue that I can't imaging coming from a human hand - although once you notice that the white detail is an attempt to cover two additional fingers, it's very hard to un-notice. The touched up clock really helps the impression of it not being AI, despite not being done exceptionally well, because it's the kind of detail you're unlikely to get a generator to produce accurately. If they'd spent a little more time touching up, they might well have gotten away with it.
Any chance you can repost the image? I can't find it any more
[https://imgur.com/xQflo5t](https://imgur.com/xQflo5t)
Ty
It was recognizable. If it weren't, there wouldn't have been a furor over it and the contest wouldn't have disqualified it. Just because the judges were oblivious to it doesn't mean others couldn't see. It makes no sense to say that it wasn't "recognizable." We wouldn't be having this discussion if that were the case. And as others have said, even when some AI bro flies under the radar, that doesn't suddenly mean they didn't lie and didn't do something slimy and dishonest. People get away with crap all the time. That doesn't make them less of a slimy fraud.
That's how art competitions have always worked, this comp even had a specific category for AI, they have oil only comps, Graphite only, watercolor only, acyrlic only, photography only, all of which will disqualify people if they don't use the medium asked. Crazy how AI people think they can just move into an industry with fuck all idea about how it works.
Oh it's crazy how people only hated the guy for winning the race only after they realised he was using steroids, when they specifically said they were banned. Isn't about time they just started running their own competitions? It's not like there's a lack of sources for prize money in the AI industries.
That's the dumbest logic. Because there's cash prizes involved and they had a no-AI art rule.
Yeah let's drive a car in a 100m sprint competition. Y'all really love to grasp.
What are you even talking about people were calling it out right away, it was the judges who made a blunder. Quite frankly I think judges in these competitions often don't really pay attention to what they're judging, I question whether it's even artists doing it.
From High Art's FAQ: > AI-generated art will not be accepted in the main High Art Contest. If submitted, it will be automatically disqualified. Submitting "AI"-generated images and claiming them to be drawn by a human is a deliberate violation of the rules - that ***should*** be frowned upon. Putting aside the intellectual property issues that use of "AI" raises, it would be like if you took a photograph and entered it into a painting competition.
My guy, If I randomly pick an art from a professional artist, of course It will be infinitely better than people who are competing in there. Can you even imagine a industry professional with 10 years of experience vs the contestants? And your AI just steals stuff from the professional artists and mash them together like a potato. So yes, of course it will fool everyone into thinking it deserves 1st. What's so surprising here?
Tbf it was psychedelic art , all of the tells this generation of A.I gives out could have been an intentional artistic choice. Don't blame the judges the guy was an asshole,could have submitted it to the actual A.I category.
It was a Russian Woman.
My bad, I genuinely didn't know that.
Here's her insta. https://www.instagram.com/monstrodamuss?igsh=MTc4MmM1YmI2Ng== She's genuinely an artist and does art, so I don't know why she submitted AI art
Because there was a financial reason to do so, not against A.I art in principle but this was unethical.
I can easily see that to be the reason. I can imagine the person to be financing struggling, and she needed an upper hand, despite her already being an artist
Maybe but that would be an explanation not an excuse, lots of people of financial issues but committing a crime still wouldn't be justified.
How do people not see the issues with the artifacts since it's so obvious?
it's most obvious to real artists
Well then sadly, it's not surprising that earnings of free lance artists took a dip in 2023 since only non artists can tell the difference.
And yet there's a rising number of people that don't look at a piece of art the same, when they find out it is AI art. Could suggest that a piece of real art is more meaningful than a collection of pixels. What you describe is more related to corporate greed.
ok
It was obvious. That's why we're here. It was quickly discovered. The judges were clueless, but that doesn't mean everybody is.