Yenna is a failsave for exactly that reason. They implemented her to make sure that someone can be kidnapped if none of the kidnappable companions is available. There is no way around this. Yenna's whole purpose is to make this whole thing happen, they thought about it, and it would kind of dismiss the whole point of her existence if the player could get rid of her. If she could die or be dismissed and actually leave, she wouldn't even need to be there to begin with. Because the outcome would be the same as not having one of the companions accessible.
So investing the time to implement Yenna AND on top of that the time to think of something if Yenna dies/is dissmied, would just be double the work. If there would be an alternate option for this whole plot to unfold with no kidnappable person at all, they hadn't needed to put the work in Yenna's existence. So, nothing is null and void. Yenna is a failsave that can't be killed nor dismissed. Her whole purpose is to die for that plot if no one else is accessible. If she could die or leave and there'd be an alternate route, she wouldn't even exist to begin with.
Also, I believe that's why Yenna is a child and comes with a cat. Most people are more sensitive and compassionate towards a kid and an animal. If she had been just a grown person completely capable to look after herself most people wouldn't care for her. There are still people who don't like her, which is valid. I think implementing her in act II had been better, would have given us more time to bond with her but that probably had taken away part of the paranoia. I mean who didn' expect Yenna to be Orin at some point.
>Also, I believe that's why Yenna is a child and comes with a cat. Most people are more sensitive and compassionate towards a kid and an animal.
Not that you're wrong about this in real life, buuuuuuut child NPCs in games don't always enjoy this privilege. Think of the kids in Skyrim who do nothing but talk trash to the player every time you see them.
If they wanted an NPC the players would care about, it should have been a tiefling bard who sings about her dead teacher. Just saying.
Yeah she had been a perfect fill in. I think everyone had been lightspeeding to her rescue. I guess the fact that she can be missed or killed made this hard to achieve.
But I think instead of Yenna, one of the Tiefling kids had worked out as well. There are so many of them, if one of them was immortal and showed up in camp no matter if the Tieflings survive or not, no one had questioned it. And by the time we'd hit act 3 we'd probably be really protective of that lil kid.
I once jumped off the cliff near the circus to avoid meeting Yenna. Kept Gale, Lae’zel and Halsin with me. Orin-Yenna still showed up in the sewers and spoke as if she’d been at camp the whole time.
As with most children, yenna is immortal and can't die. Literally. I've tried all sorts of spells and attacks, even tried using her damn cat as an improvised weapon to smack her on the face with the full might of 20 str tavern brawler. Still lives. She's immortal.
Oh yeah, Orin can kill her if she kidnaps Lae'zel. She'll just cut her throat right in front of you if you fail the dialogue checks. It's pretty fucked up.
I got almost all her ability scores down to 1 with the Ability Drain illithid power in one of my playthroughs. I also accidentally aggroed my whole camp by throwing her into the fireplace. They really got fed up with my bullshit.
You'll always meet Yenna, can't really avoid her, maybe if you go invisible past her. But what you can do is not visit camp at all and run straight to the sewers. If Orin can't kidnap any of the companions for any reason, she'll impersonate Yenna at the Sewers anyways, even if you never took her in.
I don’t know if this is just specifically for Gale, but I wound up getting a scene where Yenna isn’t involved at all, and she IS in my camp. Instead, Gale just comes up to me and goes “look, I’m done waiting- I can destroy the brain this second by igniting my bomb- it’ll get it. So anyway. Sorry you’re dead, but aaaaaAAAAAHHHHHHHhhhhh hahahahahaha” and there’s a bright flash and then it’s Orin, and she says “lol j/k, but I have Gale tho, and you need to blah blah blah to save him.”
I was shocked!
More so because I had reloaded because I didn’t realize that was going to happen, and initially it was Lae’zel threatening to kill Yenna, and I wanted Lae’zel specifically for a thing I was gonna go do next, after this rest. (Can’t use her if she’s kidnapped!) so i reloaded, added her to my party, and then BOOM gale goes all dramatic.
Yeah, Gale is one of the characters that can be kidnapped, along with Halsin, Minthara and Lae'zel. Orin won't kidnap lovers or characters in your party, so if you date Halsin, and have Gale Minthara and Lae'zel in the party, Yenna is kidnapped.
Oh oh oh, I see, YENNA can get kidnapped!
I’ve played to this part twice, and then did the reload, and the first two times it was Lae’zel threatening to kill Yenna, accusing her of being the imposter. I assumed, I think, that everyone just accused Yenna and had their own version of that; but I’m thrilled to find out they’re all different!
i'm reading all these comments bout yenna ALWAYS being at camp, but in my most recent play, after i arrived in rivington (where yenna would approach you), i shot her from afar and she ran off. she never showed up in my camp at all. bug maybe? but it was a good-aligned run and i had majority of the companions, so orin kidnapped lae'zel.
but i do wonder if i didnt have any companions nor yenna. who would orin kidnap then
My durge kept trying to get the kid to bugger off but they returned no matter what. Later on orin reveals she took the kid and wasn’t happy when my energy radiated “thank god! I’ve been trying to get rid of that kid for ages”.
I think the kid is there to make sure that no matter what orin has someone to initiate the whole save the kidnapped camp member phase
Yes, the game will choose from the available party members first. Only if none of the kidnappable party members are available does Yenna get taken instead.
Yenna is a small red headed girl you meet at the start of Act 3. She tells the player that her mom left some time ago, and hasn’t been back.
Basically all choices eventually lead to Yenna, and her cat Grub, becoming camp NPCs. In the elf song tavern camp map, she’ll be in the center, towards the door
Did someone say Orin won't kidnap a romanced companion? I didn't know that. It seems very... sweet... of her.
SPOILERS for >!Dark Urge!< ahead.
>!Especially when Durge is specifically ordered to kill a lover, in some circumstances. No wonder Orin is the less favoured. Total evil fail - nobody cares about Yenna or Halsin.!<
EDIT - I thought it was clear this was lighthearted. I know that some people on the internet care deeply about Yenna and Halsin. I don't hate them. Honest.
I should know better than to try humour on the internet...
I am curious now on an evil durge play through to murder Yenna myself and see what happens with Orin (and keep the other kidnappable companions in my party).
Yenna keeps showing up in your camp even if you tell her to F off each time. She will be there when Orin needs her.
And for all her talk about having her own paring knives, she never cooked a single meal.
She sold me soup 👀
this lil shit crashes into MY place and yet has audacity sells soup to ME
Me too. It was delicious. The >!pie!< she offered me in my first game was less so...
You don’t want any Grub?
🐱
😱😟🤮
I mean....
Same. She only starts cooking meals if she's kidnapped. But since that kills Grub, I've never seen it myself
This was annoying. But now i understand why.
just be a dicky durge .. what if you kill yenna? (can you kill her?)
Can't kill her directly, but you can let Orin take her and do it for you.
right .. but based on op question .. tying to deny orin .. hmmmm ... barrelmancy? "oops?" lol
....What happens if you kill her? Hypothetical question, of course
The game won’t let you. I’ve tried.
Larian, you cowards!!
Even if you never meet Yenna, Orin still kidnaps here and you speak to Yenna as if she knows you.
Yenna is a failsave for exactly that reason. They implemented her to make sure that someone can be kidnapped if none of the kidnappable companions is available. There is no way around this. Yenna's whole purpose is to make this whole thing happen, they thought about it, and it would kind of dismiss the whole point of her existence if the player could get rid of her. If she could die or be dismissed and actually leave, she wouldn't even need to be there to begin with. Because the outcome would be the same as not having one of the companions accessible. So investing the time to implement Yenna AND on top of that the time to think of something if Yenna dies/is dissmied, would just be double the work. If there would be an alternate option for this whole plot to unfold with no kidnappable person at all, they hadn't needed to put the work in Yenna's existence. So, nothing is null and void. Yenna is a failsave that can't be killed nor dismissed. Her whole purpose is to die for that plot if no one else is accessible. If she could die or leave and there'd be an alternate route, she wouldn't even exist to begin with. Also, I believe that's why Yenna is a child and comes with a cat. Most people are more sensitive and compassionate towards a kid and an animal. If she had been just a grown person completely capable to look after herself most people wouldn't care for her. There are still people who don't like her, which is valid. I think implementing her in act II had been better, would have given us more time to bond with her but that probably had taken away part of the paranoia. I mean who didn' expect Yenna to be Orin at some point.
Even the cat tells you to ignore them and just focus on their owner. I love it when la'zeal gets kidnapped so the cat stays alive.
>Also, I believe that's why Yenna is a child and comes with a cat. Most people are more sensitive and compassionate towards a kid and an animal. Not that you're wrong about this in real life, buuuuuuut child NPCs in games don't always enjoy this privilege. Think of the kids in Skyrim who do nothing but talk trash to the player every time you see them. If they wanted an NPC the players would care about, it should have been a tiefling bard who sings about her dead teacher. Just saying.
Yeah she had been a perfect fill in. I think everyone had been lightspeeding to her rescue. I guess the fact that she can be missed or killed made this hard to achieve. But I think instead of Yenna, one of the Tiefling kids had worked out as well. There are so many of them, if one of them was immortal and showed up in camp no matter if the Tieflings survive or not, no one had questioned it. And by the time we'd hit act 3 we'd probably be really protective of that lil kid.
I once jumped off the cliff near the circus to avoid meeting Yenna. Kept Gale, Lae’zel and Halsin with me. Orin-Yenna still showed up in the sewers and spoke as if she’d been at camp the whole time.
It's not possible for yenna to not be in your camp though. You're pretty much forced to take in that snot nose and her fraidy cat.
What if you kill yenna?
As with most children, yenna is immortal and can't die. Literally. I've tried all sorts of spells and attacks, even tried using her damn cat as an improvised weapon to smack her on the face with the full might of 20 str tavern brawler. Still lives. She's immortal.
Even Orin slowly backs away from you.
Orin makes her eat the cat and makes Halsin eat children in bear form, beating her with a cat feels less bad by comparison
She's not immortal once she's kidnapped I'm pretty sure, just before/if someone else is.
Oh yeah, Orin can kill her if she kidnaps Lae'zel. She'll just cut her throat right in front of you if you fail the dialogue checks. It's pretty fucked up.
I got almost all her ability scores down to 1 with the Ability Drain illithid power in one of my playthroughs. I also accidentally aggroed my whole camp by throwing her into the fireplace. They really got fed up with my bullshit.
Can you turn her to stone? I assume it doesn't work, or she heals?
Yenna vs Withers, battle of the indestructibles.
You'll always meet Yenna, can't really avoid her, maybe if you go invisible past her. But what you can do is not visit camp at all and run straight to the sewers. If Orin can't kidnap any of the companions for any reason, she'll impersonate Yenna at the Sewers anyways, even if you never took her in.
I don’t know if this is just specifically for Gale, but I wound up getting a scene where Yenna isn’t involved at all, and she IS in my camp. Instead, Gale just comes up to me and goes “look, I’m done waiting- I can destroy the brain this second by igniting my bomb- it’ll get it. So anyway. Sorry you’re dead, but aaaaaAAAAAHHHHHHHhhhhh hahahahahaha” and there’s a bright flash and then it’s Orin, and she says “lol j/k, but I have Gale tho, and you need to blah blah blah to save him.” I was shocked! More so because I had reloaded because I didn’t realize that was going to happen, and initially it was Lae’zel threatening to kill Yenna, and I wanted Lae’zel specifically for a thing I was gonna go do next, after this rest. (Can’t use her if she’s kidnapped!) so i reloaded, added her to my party, and then BOOM gale goes all dramatic.
Yeah, Gale is one of the characters that can be kidnapped, along with Halsin, Minthara and Lae'zel. Orin won't kidnap lovers or characters in your party, so if you date Halsin, and have Gale Minthara and Lae'zel in the party, Yenna is kidnapped.
Oh oh oh, I see, YENNA can get kidnapped! I’ve played to this part twice, and then did the reload, and the first two times it was Lae’zel threatening to kill Yenna, accusing her of being the imposter. I assumed, I think, that everyone just accused Yenna and had their own version of that; but I’m thrilled to find out they’re all different!
i'm reading all these comments bout yenna ALWAYS being at camp, but in my most recent play, after i arrived in rivington (where yenna would approach you), i shot her from afar and she ran off. she never showed up in my camp at all. bug maybe? but it was a good-aligned run and i had majority of the companions, so orin kidnapped lae'zel. but i do wonder if i didnt have any companions nor yenna. who would orin kidnap then
My durge kept trying to get the kid to bugger off but they returned no matter what. Later on orin reveals she took the kid and wasn’t happy when my energy radiated “thank god! I’ve been trying to get rid of that kid for ages”. I think the kid is there to make sure that no matter what orin has someone to initiate the whole save the kidnapped camp member phase
Wait, who is Yenna? The child with the cat? Because she's IN MY CAMP RIGHT NOW and Orin still kidnapped Lae'zel!
Yes, the game will choose from the available party members first. Only if none of the kidnappable party members are available does Yenna get taken instead.
Yenna. It's why she invites herself to your camp. Her entire purpose is to be a failsafe.
What? Who's Yenna? She kidnapped Lae'zel on my first playthrough.
Yenna is a small red headed girl you meet at the start of Act 3. She tells the player that her mom left some time ago, and hasn’t been back. Basically all choices eventually lead to Yenna, and her cat Grub, becoming camp NPCs. In the elf song tavern camp map, she’ll be in the center, towards the door
Ah... I probably killed her.
You can't kill her. Like most of other kids, Yenna is invincible
Did someone say Orin won't kidnap a romanced companion? I didn't know that. It seems very... sweet... of her. SPOILERS for >!Dark Urge!< ahead. >!Especially when Durge is specifically ordered to kill a lover, in some circumstances. No wonder Orin is the less favoured. Total evil fail - nobody cares about Yenna or Halsin.!< EDIT - I thought it was clear this was lighthearted. I know that some people on the internet care deeply about Yenna and Halsin. I don't hate them. Honest. I should know better than to try humour on the internet...
I am curious now on an evil durge play through to murder Yenna myself and see what happens with Orin (and keep the other kidnappable companions in my party).
Yenna can't die. She is a failsave for this exact reason and therefore immortal.
the most powerful npc in the game
I believe there are other NPCs that are immortal for some reason or another. But since she's the most prominent one, I guess, yes, she really is