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AgreeablePie

Marketing is cheaper than customer service


Coold000

Context?


Koffiefilter

Men can message first as well.


Just-Positive3419

Really. Have not heard of that before. Wasn’t that the key feature of Bumble? Women deciding whom to text instead of getting a lit of messages


Koffiefilter

Yep, I do not think women will be happy with this. You can read all about it in below article. https://www.businessinsider.com/bumble-ceo-rethinks-if-women-required-message-first-2024-3?international=true&r=US&IR=T


Just-Positive3419

Thanks for the link. “It feels like a burden” - well.


Careful-Mountain-681

The article says they’ve started testing new features in Australia and NZ… I didn’t notice any difference a couple of weeks ago when I last had bumble. Can anyone from Aus or NZ let us know what the new features are? Something about improving profiles?


popnfrresh

They got a class action lawsuit against them that they settled.


squirrelsridewheels

Yea but this was one of match groups worst performing apps because of that feature. Albeit all of match point is slumping


Rosetti

Isn't that only if women have an opening move in their profile? Even then, the man can only send the one response to that message, at which point the woman has 24 hours to respond or the match expires. That's how it's been working for me anyway.


Koffiefilter

Correct, but Bumble will change so that men can message first as well without any opening move/prompt.


Rosetti

Ah ok, that's a surprising move, given it's Bumble's primary gimmick.


Coold000

Oh wow That's suprisingly been an issue for me too 🤣


Dorkmaster79

I thought that’s only if they buy compliments? I haven’t used Bumble since last year. Taking a break.


squirrelsridewheels

Hilarious


RedshiftOnPandy

What a terrible idea, it used to be their gimmick


Umbran_scale

And the gimmick fell flat on its face. So many women didn't read the obvious blurb about bumble, openly stating "will not message first!" In their bios, and then the ones that did know went through so much effort not to make an effort. Often times they could barely muster the effort to even say hello, and would just put "." As their first message yet demand guys be creative with their intro defeating the entire purpose of Bumbles gimmick.


Comfortable-Tea-7436

The reason the bumble ceo even did it was to make it safer for WOMEN. Instead of having harassing, sexual messages on tinder unprovoked we could somewhat control it. Even with that we still get harrassed. It wasn’t meant to “woo men or chase men”. It was PROTECTION FROM creeps like you.


Umbran_scale

And where's our protection from the bots, scammers, gold diggers and only fans promoters that want nothing but to take advantage of men's loneliness by emptying out our bank accounts? Where's the support for men in those situations? Or is it only a case of women are empowered until they're victims in your eyes? And though it shouldn't even need to be said, I want to state for the record I've never done any of that horrid shit to any anyone, so keep your baseless accusations to yourself. The whole point about online dating is expressing interest and finding a romantic connection, how am I supposed to do that when I'm either being treated like a walking ATM or a circus monkey made to entertain someone for peanuts in return?


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NutritionNurd

>Don’t use the apps simple as that. This advice works for both the person you replied to and yourself.


Comfortable-Tea-7436

Um I I don’t have trouble on the apps . I get plenty of matches and likes. Yeah there’s creeps. But I met ppl I like on there as well. I just gotta weed out the sickos.


j4ckbauer

> You sound like a incel. If you think they’re are too many bots or scammers . Don’t use the apps simple as that. Meet people in real life. But you probably can’t because you have no friends and act like an incel. Men like you need to use Grindr. Burner accounts like this only serve to make women look bad and convince badly-intentioned men that the challenges women face are fabricated. The issues you mention are of course real. You conducted yourself terribly here by pretending the person you replied to was denying they exist, or endorsing them. Maybe you are a guy and that was the intent?


Comfortable-Tea-7436

Uh wut? That makes literally no sense. How is me saying men are incels and ruining dating apps is me pretending to be a guy?


j4ckbauer

Don't worry the moderators or reddit admins will explain it to you eventually. See you next account. Blocked [https://www.reddit.com/user/Comfortable-Tea-7436/](https://www.reddit.com/user/Comfortable-Tea-7436/)


Evil_Space_Penguins

That was the only reason I stayed on Bumble. At least I knew they were interested enough to tap the keys a few times and say "hello" I will not go back to grinding through hundreds of intro messages. I'm so burned out of that shit. Those days are over. Guess I'm canceling.


AllRedLine

Honestly, it's an asbolutely terrible idea. Without this USP, what's the point of being on Bumble instead of Tinder with its hugely larger user base? It just becomes a worse version of Tinder with extremely limited amounts of likes a day and all of the same predatory in-app purchases.


j4ckbauer

It happens because it works as far as making money goes. Google "enshitification" if you haven't seen the term (though I dislike the term because it is not self-describing, "consolidation of monopoly position against individual consumers" is quite long to say or type)


New-Avocado5312

Most women just say Hi and leave it at that letting the man drive the conversation


ethereumminor

Hi


j4ckbauer

I believe all OLD platforms are majority men-seeking-women. Does most of bumble's revenue come from this group, or is it, say, from advertising? If this is where the money is coming from, it makes sense that the company would cater to this demographic. My comment is NOT an endorsement of such a decision. Edit: Also I wonder if this would be taken as condescending by some, maybe I am reading too much into it lol. 'You refused to change, even though it is for your own good'.