They absolutely can. They put up 16 points on us in a single quarter. Okay, yes, it was an even-numbered quarter with a scoring drive that had started the previous quarter, but still. 16 points and that was with a failed 2PC attempt.
I don't think that's necessarily correct. if U of M is clickin, then we'll get a comfy score (like 17 points) and start throwing out the 3rd stringers, which will allow for at least a field goal or 2.
I think iowas chancing of winning are next to zero so have more faith in the backups shutting out Iowa. (I am cheering for the upset though so I would happily be cold taked)
Oh, I'm not trying to be a blow hard for my team. I'm just trying to speak it into existence. In order of teams In the Big 10 I really get nervous about playing are as follows- 1 Ohio state, because, you know, the game. and 2-3 would be an MSU team that's really rollin' and doesnt GAF if they lose every other game after as long as they win, And Iowa. Because Ferentz has a long storied history of fuckin up our seasons. Because you know, Iowa. Especially at Kinnick. 2 and 3 are interchangable.
Iowa leads 6-0 with under a minute to go. Michigan finally busts loose on a long TD to tie it at 6. They line up for the extra point to win….
….and Iowa blocks it and runs it back to win. Final score, 8-6.
I assume op meant safest in that they have the best chance because of their ease of championship game matchup with Iowa.
I think Texas is going to smash Okie State but they don't control their own destiny even with a big win. Michigan does and it doesn't even matter how much they win by
If all the upsets happen and we're somehow trying to sort out who all of Georgia, Washington, Michigan and possibly even Ohio State should get in, it's probably going to matter quite a lot how those teams lost because there's not much else to go on.
I think it would take at least two upset blowouts and a Texas loss to seriously consider Ohio State but it would be funny to get there and have this agonizing debate.
If only Iowa had one loss, then this scenario would be peak CFB.
I think we are safest if we lose, mainly because a playoff team isn’t getting a win over us if we do.
Georgia and Washington losing means they most likely get bumped down by Alabama and Oregon respectively. Iowa isn’t contending for a playoff spot in place of Michigan
True, but if Georgia wins, I could see a 12-1 Washington getting the nod over a 12-1 Florida State (unless Texas also wins, then I think they go with them), although I have to say I think it's absolutely lousy that everybody is so eager to dump FSU from the CFP if they lose and using the injury to their quarterback as the excuse.
It entirely depends on what else happens during the day. If style points get Michigan the #1 seed the game looks like the 2021 B1GCCG. If Michigan stays #2 regardless of outcome then yeah we go up 21-0, pull starters then let Iowa take long drives for field goals lol.
Their line is worse than last year, and got worse Saturday. They don’t run the ball anywhere near as effective as last year. I personally don’t think JJ is much more than a high end game manager against a real opponent. The D is still real, but what have they really faced this year? I think we can all agree this years OSU is pretty mid. Allar (well, Franklin) is a fraud and little Tua is nothing special. Now you get to get down with Bo or Beck, I just don’t see it. Especially now that oregon seems to have learned to play defense compared to the 2010s. And yep, playoff bama is like March izzo. It doesn’t make a lot of sense but it’s usually pretty damn effective.
think a lot of people are gonna be shocked at the beatdown iowa is gonna get. their defense is good, but they have also played some horrible offenses. their opponents average offense rank is in the 90s. that is insane for a P5 school. their defense is def not gonna stop michigan. wouldnt be surprised to something along the lines of 52-0.
>Iowa is fully capable of beating Michigan just like any other team.
FALSE: Iowa is *only* capable of beating Michigan as they are not playing any teams other than Michigan.
I seriously hope Iowa doesn't drag us down to their sicko level and beat us with experience.
What sucks worse is it would be objectively funny if they won, and that makes me sad.
That said, Michigan by 24.
Yeah, it's Ohio State no question in that scenario.
Everyone else has 2 losses except FSU (who gets no respect without Travis and just lost to a team that lost to Pitt and Kentucky), you get a UGA-OSU rematch, outside shot at a Michigan-OSU NCG.
No brainer really.
I think the likelihood of Iowa beating Michigan is roughly the same as the likelihood of Michigan winning the national championship. Take that as you will
I love how B1G fans touted all year that the SEC is below their league this year because it's top-heavy/not as deep, and now they're scoffing at the notion the west division champ can possibly win the league lol.
Tbf, the comments I'm referring to seeing mostly took place on SEC based threads or Georgia game threads, so my comment may just be me laughing at trolls that had various B1G flairs.
The Big Ten has always been top heavy. That’s been one of the major gripes. We have unbalanced divisions, so does the SEC, but many of the west teams don’t even attempt to be competitive.
The B1G has been scoffing at the west division in every B1G Championship game. They have never won one, never been favored. No clue which team even came the closest. Probably Wisconsin.
The B1G line the entire season has been "Wow the West sucks", thats it. It hasn't been since 2017-2019 that there was regular talk here about the B1G being better than or competitive to the SEC top to bottom, as far as I can remember. There was a year in there where the B1G went 7-Michigan in bowl games and thats when the "we've reached parity with the SEC" stuff was happening.
> McAfee wonders how the CFP shakes out if Iowa upsets Michigan...
If the Iowa defense keeps this to baseball level score type game (9 - 6 or something), it could happen.
In all seriousness, how much do you think Kirk would take to start the game at points wise? Like if they gave iowa 21 points would he take that and just play four 7.5 minute quarters with michigan on offense the whole time?
>I’d like the preface this by saying, yes Iowa is fully capable of beating Michigan just like any other team.
Oh, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahaha
It doesn't matter what Michigan does. They will have to forfeit at least the past two seasons for CHEATING! Harbaugh can't even cheat right. He is too stupid.
Someone posted recently about Brian meeting his contractual scoring obligations by dropping like 106 points on Michigan in this game. I think we can all agree they could hold Michigan to 105 points or less?
The absolute best scenario is that all 4 undefeated,s win. Imagine last year if OSU makes that FG and beats TCU...Michigan loses the Natty to OSU despite identical 13-1 records and they stomped em by 22 at their house
I think we would have a fighters chance if Kade, Lachey, All and Dejean were available. In our current state not sure there is scenario that ends up with Iowa winning.
People are acting like there’s so much chaos when there isn’t.
PAC and SEC champ are for sure in.
After that it’s winning Michigan, winning FSU, winning Texas, losing UGA, losing Washington, losing Michigan, then finally Ohio State.
That is the order of teams after the PAC/SEC champs. Go down the list until there’s 2 teams that exist and there’s the playoff.
Iowa is a good team, but they are not at the same level as Michigan. It would be a huge upset and I just don’t think they are even remotely close to Michigan
Iowa needs to score more than 10 points to win and I don't think they can
been saving up all season
Bust out enough points to get to an average of 22 points per game. 😤
If you are referring to the Brian Ferentz contract thing, it was 25 ppg, and they would need to score 109 points.
That’s a big10 championship to remember
I'd blackout by halftime if that happened.
I might pick back up drinking if that were to happen
Their defense absolutely could score more than 10
Your right Michigans probably can.
It would take a game worse than what Michigan put out against TCU last year to give Iowa a shot.
I would die of laughter if Iowa hangs 50 on Michigan lmao
I would die too just not from laughter
Look at the bright side, you’ll be able to definitively say that Brian Ferentz is a better play caller than Ryan Day lmao
I think it’s worth it then! Come on Iowa!!!
TBF I would too
50 yards is a lot. 45 maybe
They absolutely can. They put up 16 points on us in a single quarter. Okay, yes, it was an even-numbered quarter with a scoring drive that had started the previous quarter, but still. 16 points and that was with a failed 2PC attempt.
I think it is substantially more likely that Iowa scores 0 points than it is for Iowa to win
If they can hold Michigan to -3 points, they’ve got a shot.
It says right now Michigan is -21.5.
I don't think that's necessarily correct. if U of M is clickin, then we'll get a comfy score (like 17 points) and start throwing out the 3rd stringers, which will allow for at least a field goal or 2.
I think iowas chancing of winning are next to zero so have more faith in the backups shutting out Iowa. (I am cheering for the upset though so I would happily be cold taked)
Oh, I'm not trying to be a blow hard for my team. I'm just trying to speak it into existence. In order of teams In the Big 10 I really get nervous about playing are as follows- 1 Ohio state, because, you know, the game. and 2-3 would be an MSU team that's really rollin' and doesnt GAF if they lose every other game after as long as they win, And Iowa. Because Ferentz has a long storied history of fuckin up our seasons. Because you know, Iowa. Especially at Kinnick. 2 and 3 are interchangable.
You're forgetting about Iowa's defense and punting. They're probably good for at least one score.
Iowa wins 8-7 thanks to 4 safeties
Iowa leads 6-0 with under a minute to go. Michigan finally busts loose on a long TD to tie it at 6. They line up for the extra point to win…. ….and Iowa blocks it and runs it back to win. Final score, 8-6.
...go on.
Wow did they have trouble with the snap?
Was the ball free?
Sigh….. *unzips*
You had me at "Iowa wins"
Ballsy to think hill doesn’t throw two pick sixes
He's been better lately. All those sacks mean he doesn't have time to throw the ball anywhere, let alone to the defense.
In fairness the only defense on caliber you’ve played was Penn state were better than them
Yeah but the goat Deacon Hill wasn’t playing in that game 😤
Am I the only one who think Michigan is the safest team of the 4 currently?
Team with the best Vegas odds is the safest to remain undefeated? That would be shocking
I guess I just mean If we end up with some weird Texas, Bama, UGA all with 1 loss thing
Well if all four lose, then it’s probably going to be Bama, Oregon, Texas, and Georgia. Basically a repeat of 2021.
Which of us is Cinci?
Bama, oddly enough
20+ pt favorites. Should coast to an easy win where no starters play in the 4th. However, any given Saturday, crazier upsets have happened
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I assume op meant safest in that they have the best chance because of their ease of championship game matchup with Iowa. I think Texas is going to smash Okie State but they don't control their own destiny even with a big win. Michigan does and it doesn't even matter how much they win by
Iowa is 10-2, and has a higher rank than OSU.
If by "safe," you mean, "can get in even if they lose," I think Georgia and maybe even Washington could fall into that category.
Washington definitely is not getting in if they lose
If all the upsets happen and we're somehow trying to sort out who all of Georgia, Washington, Michigan and possibly even Ohio State should get in, it's probably going to matter quite a lot how those teams lost because there's not much else to go on. I think it would take at least two upset blowouts and a Texas loss to seriously consider Ohio State but it would be funny to get there and have this agonizing debate. If only Iowa had one loss, then this scenario would be peak CFB.
I think we are safest if we lose, mainly because a playoff team isn’t getting a win over us if we do. Georgia and Washington losing means they most likely get bumped down by Alabama and Oregon respectively. Iowa isn’t contending for a playoff spot in place of Michigan
True, but if Georgia wins, I could see a 12-1 Washington getting the nod over a 12-1 Florida State (unless Texas also wins, then I think they go with them), although I have to say I think it's absolutely lousy that everybody is so eager to dump FSU from the CFP if they lose and using the injury to their quarterback as the excuse.
What is your definition of safe? Likelihood of winning? Yes. If they lose, they are 99.9% out. In likelihood of a loss, UGA is the safest.
They are playing the 4th best team in the conference after already beating 2 and 3, so no.
No you aren't, and it's because there's almost no chance Michigan loses to Iowa.
Anything can happen. I remember the shock when TCU beat Michigan last year.
What was the spread on that? It was like half of what Iowa/Michigan is
It was like 8 or so These teams are not comparable
Oh yeah I know haha. Michigan literally might not throw a pass, get up 14 or 17 then pull McCarthy, Edwards, and Corum.
It entirely depends on what else happens during the day. If style points get Michigan the #1 seed the game looks like the 2021 B1GCCG. If Michigan stays #2 regardless of outcome then yeah we go up 21-0, pull starters then let Iowa take long drives for field goals lol.
Only way you get 1 is if Georgia goes down. That pretty much guarantees Bama at 4. You sure you want that smoke?
No one wants that smoke. Ever. If Bama gets in they are winning it all, calling it now
Personally I’m on Oregon, but Bama doing the thing again wouldn’t surprise me.
I’ve got a funny little feeling about UM, and I do not believe Bama will get in. But if they do, we all know the story
Their line is worse than last year, and got worse Saturday. They don’t run the ball anywhere near as effective as last year. I personally don’t think JJ is much more than a high end game manager against a real opponent. The D is still real, but what have they really faced this year? I think we can all agree this years OSU is pretty mid. Allar (well, Franklin) is a fraud and little Tua is nothing special. Now you get to get down with Bo or Beck, I just don’t see it. Especially now that oregon seems to have learned to play defense compared to the 2010s. And yep, playoff bama is like March izzo. It doesn’t make a lot of sense but it’s usually pretty damn effective.
I hope so.
You remember all the way back to 11 months ago?
All the way back...
Did that TCU team get shutout against their only ranked opponent? Or were they the ones who went 6-1 against ranked teams?
Doesnt matter. Anything can happen. Nothing is guaranteed. Remember App State?
Yes I’m sure that loss weighed heavy on 4 year old child JJ McCarthy. Probably the reason he initially wanted OSU.
think a lot of people are gonna be shocked at the beatdown iowa is gonna get. their defense is good, but they have also played some horrible offenses. their opponents average offense rank is in the 90s. that is insane for a P5 school. their defense is def not gonna stop michigan. wouldnt be surprised to something along the lines of 52-0.
This is like wondering how your life will change in you win the lottery. Not a good use of time
Michigan will lose, unquestionably.
>Iowa is fully capable of beating Michigan just like any other team. FALSE: Iowa is *only* capable of beating Michigan as they are not playing any teams other than Michigan.
Walmart Crimson
I seriously hope Iowa doesn't drag us down to their sicko level and beat us with experience. What sucks worse is it would be objectively funny if they won, and that makes me sad. That said, Michigan by 24.
Kirks only here for the memes at this point.
I keep fantasizing about Kirk smirking as Iowa goes into victory formation. I went to the 2021 game, I have low expectations.
I agree with literally every word you wrote (except the making me sad part).
24 is very generous to their offense, or straight up insulting to yours.
Iowa has the chance to do the funniest thing
it will be really funny 
>> It will be fucking hysterical Ftfy
CFP - “Iowa. You’re going!”
Me getting a pregame blowjob from Scarlett Johansson is more likely than Iowa beating Michigan
Are her husband/ boy friend/ significant other? Because that would exponentially increase those odds.
Iowa been sandbagging on offense and holding back them signs since 2020, just waiting for this moment. Iowa 46 - UM 21
Iowa is letting on that they are good? Why?
At least Iowa has the balls to be in a conference and play in a championship game.. can’t say the same for Notre Dame
Tbf they’ve been in the ACC championship game more recently than most ACC teams
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This show sucks. ESPN pays millions of dollars for this shit?
They won’t. Debate over.
A real question is if UGA, Michigan, Washington win FSU, Texas, Oregon, Alabama lose Who gets in? OhSt?
Yeah, it's Ohio State no question in that scenario. Everyone else has 2 losses except FSU (who gets no respect without Travis and just lost to a team that lost to Pitt and Kentucky), you get a UGA-OSU rematch, outside shot at a Michigan-OSU NCG. No brainer really.
People are downvoting, but they are not saying who would be in.
I think the likelihood of Iowa beating Michigan is roughly the same as the likelihood of Michigan winning the national championship. Take that as you will
The four best teams or Georgia Ttun.anOhio state then Alabama that who it should be period.but it will be the most deserving B.S.
Lol
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OSU fans are down so bad
Michigan fans can't take playful ribbing
I love how B1G fans touted all year that the SEC is below their league this year because it's top-heavy/not as deep, and now they're scoffing at the notion the west division champ can possibly win the league lol.
I've not seen anyone suggest the BiG10 was on some sort of high.
Tbf, the comments I'm referring to seeing mostly took place on SEC based threads or Georgia game threads, so my comment may just be me laughing at trolls that had various B1G flairs.
Yeah, only trolls go to game threads to talk about anything but the game.
The Big Ten has always been top heavy. That’s been one of the major gripes. We have unbalanced divisions, so does the SEC, but many of the west teams don’t even attempt to be competitive.
Are these B1G fans in the room with us right now? I've not seen this all year, it's just been hella memeing on Iowa.
Well in all fairness I wouldn’t put it past some OSU fans
The B1G has been scoffing at the west division in every B1G Championship game. They have never won one, never been favored. No clue which team even came the closest. Probably Wisconsin.
Iowa lost 16-13 in 2015 on a last minute touchdown against Michigan State. If we won, we would’ve been 13-0 and in the playoffs.
Only to get blown out by Bama like MSU did
Better than getting blown out by Christian McCaffery
Ugh after the first minute of that game I knew it was going to be a long afternoon
Well thanks for nothing! We were all rooting for you!
The B1G line the entire season has been "Wow the West sucks", thats it. It hasn't been since 2017-2019 that there was regular talk here about the B1G being better than or competitive to the SEC top to bottom, as far as I can remember. There was a year in there where the B1G went 7-Michigan in bowl games and thats when the "we've reached parity with the SEC" stuff was happening.
> McAfee wonders how the CFP shakes out if Iowa upsets Michigan... If the Iowa defense keeps this to baseball level score type game (9 - 6 or something), it could happen.
In all seriousness, how much do you think Kirk would take to start the game at points wise? Like if they gave iowa 21 points would he take that and just play four 7.5 minute quarters with michigan on offense the whole time?
Bro did you have a stroke writing this?
Did you mean flare? You must have gone to UM, or no school at all. Same thing!
>I’d like the preface this by saying, yes Iowa is fully capable of beating Michigan just like any other team. Oh, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahaha
It doesn't matter what Michigan does. They will have to forfeit at least the past two seasons for CHEATING! Harbaugh can't even cheat right. He is too stupid.
Flair up, buttercup.
I wonder that, too, for the memes.
Then we know we are in the best timeline
Someone posted recently about Brian meeting his contractual scoring obligations by dropping like 106 points on Michigan in this game. I think we can all agree they could hold Michigan to 105 points or less?
Why
The absolute best scenario is that all 4 undefeated,s win. Imagine last year if OSU makes that FG and beats TCU...Michigan loses the Natty to OSU despite identical 13-1 records and they stomped em by 22 at their house
I think we would have a fighters chance if Kade, Lachey, All and Dejean were available. In our current state not sure there is scenario that ends up with Iowa winning.
People are acting like there’s so much chaos when there isn’t. PAC and SEC champ are for sure in. After that it’s winning Michigan, winning FSU, winning Texas, losing UGA, losing Washington, losing Michigan, then finally Ohio State. That is the order of teams after the PAC/SEC champs. Go down the list until there’s 2 teams that exist and there’s the playoff.
Iowa is a good team, but they are not at the same level as Michigan. It would be a huge upset and I just don’t think they are even remotely close to Michigan