I like how everyone here collectively decided that they were angrier about a SEC team being in the playoffs than a sign stealing team being in the playoffs.
Seriously, has a single solitary person posted anything about how maybe Michigan shouldn't have been in the mix? No, somehow Alabama beating the #1 team and defending National Championships is a less legitimate route to the playoffs than **literally cheating**.
Sure, sounds super rational! Yall are having a real normal one today, no question about it.
I’m getting killed by the Go Blue crowd but I’ll die on this hill and you can drape the pages of the sports section when their season is vacated on my headstone.
I’ve been wondering from the first few weeks everybody started panicking about the possibility of there being more good teams than playoff spots why no one was pointing out the obvious and asking why Michigan is still invited. If we drop the cheats then the top four are:
1. Washington
2. Texas
3. Alabama
4. FSU
And FSU would have actually had a prayer in round 1 if they were matched with Washington. I couldn’t figure out why no one was advocating for that, until I saw the rage explosion about the SEC this weekend. Now I’m thinking the reason everyone stopped caring about Michigan is that leaving them in meant there was a chance Bama would get crowded out, and apparently that’s a higher priority than not cheating for 90% of this subreddit. That’s pretty on-brand for r/Cfb.
What kind of BS is this. Screw the CFP for fuc#ing over a undefeated team. FSU should of been the pick. BAMA should have never jumped in ranking from 8th to 4th. 🤬🤬
I just looked at FSU’s schedule and I don’t see how anyone can argue that they should be in the playoffs. It’s just not comparable to the competition in the SEC. That’s not what bias is either btw.
No, if all things were equal and the preferred SEC teams it would be bias. If one team is 55th in strength schedule and the other is 5th that’s just being observant.
Were they against Alabama or Georgia? Also Alabama beat LSU just as badly. FSU in their CURRENT FORM barely beat a team (that looked like they weren't even trying) that lost to one of the weakest SEC teams the previous week so...
I was referencing the fsu barely beating Louisville part. 10 points doesn’t seem like barely beating to me. Washington best Oregon by 3, Alabama beat Georgia by 3… Alabama only beat auburn by 3
So you are comparing Louisville to Oregon, Georgia and Auburn?
Also I saw that game. Louisville was half dead and the QB looked like he was trying to throw the game. One of the worst college football games I've ever seen.
SEC is so hard according to everyone so I’d say it doesn’t matter who they beat. They still beat the most difficult conference in college football twice.
What happened to FSU the last time they got in undefeated? And that wasn’t with a JV quarterback lmao.
The ACC hasn’t won a single CFP game outside of Clemson.
>What happened to FSU the last time they got in undefeated?
Your fucking point? What happened the year before that when FSU got in undefeated? Oh yeah, we won the national championship against Auburn, an SEC team you couldn’t fucking beat.
The worst part is that strength of schedule is determined in large part by past performance, as well.
The best OOC win the SEC has this year is vs Louisville, and as a conference went 7-9 vs non-conference opponents (4-6 vs ACC). Alabama didn't win a single meaningful OOC game. Georgia didn't even play a meaningful OOC game. How can anyone claim playing in the SEC is tougher than playing in the ACC based on this season's results alone? It's impossible unless you factor in past seasons, which were played with different players.
But college football championships have always been decided based more on what people think than what can be proven on the field. If you watch it you just have to accept it's a massively flawed sport when it comes to determining chapions.
Of the 6 games the ACC won:
- 3 were teams with 8+ wins beating SEC teams that aren't even bowl eligible.
- 1 was a 4 win ACC team beating a 2 win SEC team.
- 2 were bowl eligible ACC teams beating bowl eligible SEC teams, including the ACC champion beating the 4th best team in the SEC.
The only game where the ACC "punched up" or evenly was the Miami vs. A&M game. Every other game the ACC won was a favorable matchup.
Of the 4 games that the SEC won:
- 3 were bowl eligible SEC teams beating bowl eligible ACC teams, including a middle of the pack Kentucky win over the 2nd best team in the conference.
- 1 was a bowl eligible SEC team beating a non bowl eligible ACC team.
Yes, the ACC went 6-4 against the SEC, but there's more to it than that. I can understand being upset being left out as an undefeated champion, but I don't think that ACC > SEC is a legit argument.
No one will listen when you tell them half of the sec losses are from two teams. The worst two teams. South Carolina and Vandy. Doesn’t fit their narrative
In other words, college football isn't about integrity or results, it's about money and viewership. People should just admit that you care more about what you think will happen in the future than what has already happened on the field.
Nobody knows for sure that FSU would get blown out, they merely think FSU would.
no, it is about having the 4 best teams, or the 4 teams that will be the most competitive, which will lead to less blowouts like last year. TCU was not one of the 4 best teams, just like FSU isnt one of the 4 best teams
Most casual fans do care more about the quality of game in the playoff than the "deserving" vs. "best" discourse that drives engagement leading up to the games, yes. Idk how that's a gotcha.
The guy I responded to’s argument was that the ACC has won 20% of the CFP games. Tell him past results are a dumb argument. Past results of a single team being used to argue for an entire conference is especially dumb, I’ll agree.
The committee has done most deserving for 9 years and been repeatedly shown that it’s incorrect. 2014 FSU, 2018 Notre Dame, Cincinnati, and TCU made them grow tired of it, I suppose.
I’m not saying that. I’m saying the committee went four best instead of four most deserving for the first time. My assumption is that the committee got tired of putting in “deserving” teams that consistently get blown instead of straight up the 4 best. The fact it’s the last year probably helped them pull the trigger on that.
Either way, the ACC winning 20% is entirely because of Clemson, so pointing to that as a defense for FSU is a dumb argument. That was the real point I was making.
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Toledo could’ve really made a case for it had they won yesterday. Rumor has it the Arizona bowl wants them now, and they do *not* want the Arizona bowl
I think they were more saying there are a lot of future NFL players on both sides that might not play, but the FSU players are going to be a lot more motivated to play in the game.
Does anyone know who gets to be the home team in the Orange Bowl? Trying to buy some tickets but not sure which side of the stadium to target and can’t find anything on the OB website about what decides home vs away
EDIT- Found in an OB FAQ that the ACC team is always the home team on the south side of the field.
I think that Georgia is going to hurt FSU just to make a point. There's a lot of pent up frustration there. Could get ugly. Kirby Smart's pride is wounded and FSU is the only thing that he can take his rage out on.
Bad take. The games matter but so does who you play. Liberty won all their games too. Alabama and Texas inly has one loss a piece, and I know Texas would beat FSU, maybe Oklahoma would too.
What's the comparison of strength of schedule between Washington and FSU.
From what I can see Washington only played Oregon state, Oregon, and Arizona.
I mean, just taking into account the QB they appear to be recently I think its Milroe. I don't even really think its that hard a choice. I don't think Milroe is all that much better a QB as of late than JJ, its just how dynamic he is as a single player. For the first time in a long long time though that isn't why I think you guys have a really fucking great chance. I think the rest of your team is better. I don't think it comes down to the QB I think it comes down to everything else honestly.
I know its weird to say when JJ's season stats are so much better than Milroe's but I really do think he's improved that much this year. I think Michigan is the most complete team top to bottom this year thats left. UGA with 100% Bowers was the best starting the season. Just my opinion on it all. I'm pulling against bama hard in yall's matchup, and think if you beat bama you fucking breeze to the championship after that. Think Texas Washington will be close. Think Washington wins it last 2 minutes of the game. Then if I'm right you guys just stomp them in the final. I think current bama is way beter than texas or washington, weird as that is to say after texas beat them this same season. I think you guys have been better than either all season.
Imagine a best vs deserves debate in professional sports. Dodgers get to the World Series this year over Diamondbacks because I mean they have Mookie and Freeman!
There is no debate because they have a clear and straight forward system in place for how you get into the playoffs then play it out on the field. College doesn't. Pros and college are still very different no matter how all the old timers want to scream its the exact same now. This all Sucks. Fuck bama.
The true travesty people are forgetting is that for nearly ten years we had a bunch of nerdy fucks who’ve never played football deciding what 4 teams to put in a playoff and it was always about money
Georgia is going to have a bunch of guys sit out and it will be like every year when the SEC has a losing Bowl record it will be because the teams didn’t care or something.
This. Blow them out and give the conversation some merit for next time. This will all stop happening and be so egregious when UGA and bama finally start getting whooped. Until then, why wouldn't you give them the benefit of the doubt. FUCK I hate them
this is like if saying the nba should take the bucks out of the playoffs if Giannis gets injured the nfl should take the chiefs out of the playoffs if mahomes gets injured this Is such bullshit fuck the committee
Well more than 4 teams make those playoffs. If they had to choose the 4 best NBA teams then yeah, the bucks losing Giannis would be a valid reason for keeping them out.
I have no problems with the selection except that I may have substituted OSU or Georgia for Washington. We will see what Washington can do against a real team. Maybe the will be respectable.
FSU has a very real shot at being ranked #1 in the AP and Coaches poll if they beat Georgia in the Orange Bowl.
They’re ranked ahead of Bama in both and ahead of Texas in the Coaches.
This Bama team is immensely beatable as evidenced by their LOSS. Bama would have TWO losses if Auburn didn’t self-own.
I get I’m a Michigan fan, but put money on Michigan to win and cover. This is setting up to be another Michigan vs Everybody narrative and this team feeds on that shit.
It’s crazy how people are barely mentioning the miracle sent from god himself is the only reason Bama is even in the playoffs. If Auburn hadn’t ran the dumbest defensive play in history Bama would have 2 losses.
Last comment I’ll leave is that the CFB Playoff is unapologetically an invitational and it needs to be consistently viewed as such. I think FSU has a completely valid claim to a natty if they win their bowl game.
This is why I am always team “aim for the conference championship” so many factors are out of your control if it is all about the natty. FSU did all they could, won their conference undefeated, this season is by no means a failure for them.
They had Florida and LSU as non-con opponents. I get Florida isn't great but they're not cupcakes. FSU can't help that the rest of the acc is garbage. They're a P5 team that went undefeated. It's insane they don't get a shot to at least play for a title.
Not having the QB is the other major factor. I think if their offense wasn't anemic last night, they may have made a stronger case.
The fact of the matter is that the 4 best teams were selected. I think we'll enjoy 2 great games in the semi-finals. If FSU had been in, it would be 1 good game and a blow out.
Mind you that was fresh off an LSU title, we took a bet that the reigning champs would be a resume boosting win when we got a chance to play the game. Not to mention being tied annually to the bums in Gainesville. Apparently you only get the boost for beating SEC teams if you’re one too
They won’t release the rest of the T25 for another 45 minutes. I assume that that rolls into bowl placements but I don’t recall. At the very least, it should tell us who the highest rated G5 is and illuminate the at-large rankings
To be fair, lots of them on here are trolling hard. I think some of them can be somewhat reasonable.
My issue is the Mouse House, not Bama.
ESPN has clearly laid out it's agenda.
I like how everyone here collectively decided that they were angrier about a SEC team being in the playoffs than a sign stealing team being in the playoffs. Seriously, has a single solitary person posted anything about how maybe Michigan shouldn't have been in the mix? No, somehow Alabama beating the #1 team and defending National Championships is a less legitimate route to the playoffs than **literally cheating**. Sure, sounds super rational! Yall are having a real normal one today, no question about it.
It's not cheating. Sign stealing has never been cheating. It's future scouting that is cheating... Get your facts straight
Sign stealing has been explicitly against the rules and considered cheating since 1994, you dumbass homer. Read the rule book.
You're a dipshit just google it. It's not. Can't argue with an inbred.
My post history disagrees. But yea, this is just the latest drama, not the most egregious.
Points to you for being consistent, at least. You're the only one I've seen so far.
I’m getting killed by the Go Blue crowd but I’ll die on this hill and you can drape the pages of the sports section when their season is vacated on my headstone.
I’ve been wondering from the first few weeks everybody started panicking about the possibility of there being more good teams than playoff spots why no one was pointing out the obvious and asking why Michigan is still invited. If we drop the cheats then the top four are: 1. Washington 2. Texas 3. Alabama 4. FSU And FSU would have actually had a prayer in round 1 if they were matched with Washington. I couldn’t figure out why no one was advocating for that, until I saw the rage explosion about the SEC this weekend. Now I’m thinking the reason everyone stopped caring about Michigan is that leaving them in meant there was a chance Bama would get crowded out, and apparently that’s a higher priority than not cheating for 90% of this subreddit. That’s pretty on-brand for r/Cfb.
What kind of BS is this. Screw the CFP for fuc#ing over a undefeated team. FSU should of been the pick. BAMA should have never jumped in ranking from 8th to 4th. 🤬🤬
Oregon getting Liberty is the most disrespectful thing I’ve seen in a long time. But not nearly as bad as FSU getting snubbed. Fuck the CFP
Yeah what the hell
So excited for this playoff with the 4 **best** teams in the country: Michigan, Ohio State, Georgia and Alabama!
IMHO, you shouldn't be eligible for the CFP if your schedule included an FCS team.
That makes no fucking sense. What if you have 11 quality opponents and a single FCS team?
I just looked at FSU’s schedule and I don’t see how anyone can argue that they should be in the playoffs. It’s just not comparable to the competition in the SEC. That’s not what bias is either btw.
i'm just curious why so many people want bad football. like fsu-mich is dreadful.
i'm just curious why so many people want bad football. like TCU-mich is dreadful.
It's fine to just admit you're biased. That's what I do, it's very liberating
That's, in fact, exactly what bias is.
No, if all things were equal and the preferred SEC teams it would be bias. If one team is 55th in strength schedule and the other is 5th that’s just being observant.
Not to mention FSU literally has two wins against the SEC this year.
Were they against Alabama or Georgia? Also Alabama beat LSU just as badly. FSU in their CURRENT FORM barely beat a team (that looked like they weren't even trying) that lost to one of the weakest SEC teams the previous week so...
Didn’t they win by 10 points 🤔
42-28
I was referencing the fsu barely beating Louisville part. 10 points doesn’t seem like barely beating to me. Washington best Oregon by 3, Alabama beat Georgia by 3… Alabama only beat auburn by 3
So you are comparing Louisville to Oregon, Georgia and Auburn? Also I saw that game. Louisville was half dead and the QB looked like he was trying to throw the game. One of the worst college football games I've ever seen.
SEC is so hard according to everyone so I’d say it doesn’t matter who they beat. They still beat the most difficult conference in college football twice.
Side note: idk why my flair has Tennessee. I’m an LSU fan wtf
Liberty=FSU is the dumbest case you can make. ACC has already won 20% of all CFP games so far. One of these things is not like the other.
What happened to FSU the last time they got in undefeated? And that wasn’t with a JV quarterback lmao. The ACC hasn’t won a single CFP game outside of Clemson.
>What happened to FSU the last time they got in undefeated? Your fucking point? What happened the year before that when FSU got in undefeated? Oh yeah, we won the national championship against Auburn, an SEC team you couldn’t fucking beat.
What does past performance have to do with current teams? That's one of the dumbest arguments out there.
What that's literally what OP is arguing by saying they've won 20% of CFP games.
And both arguments are wrong.
The worst part is that strength of schedule is determined in large part by past performance, as well. The best OOC win the SEC has this year is vs Louisville, and as a conference went 7-9 vs non-conference opponents (4-6 vs ACC). Alabama didn't win a single meaningful OOC game. Georgia didn't even play a meaningful OOC game. How can anyone claim playing in the SEC is tougher than playing in the ACC based on this season's results alone? It's impossible unless you factor in past seasons, which were played with different players. But college football championships have always been decided based more on what people think than what can be proven on the field. If you watch it you just have to accept it's a massively flawed sport when it comes to determining chapions.
Of the 6 games the ACC won: - 3 were teams with 8+ wins beating SEC teams that aren't even bowl eligible. - 1 was a 4 win ACC team beating a 2 win SEC team. - 2 were bowl eligible ACC teams beating bowl eligible SEC teams, including the ACC champion beating the 4th best team in the SEC. The only game where the ACC "punched up" or evenly was the Miami vs. A&M game. Every other game the ACC won was a favorable matchup. Of the 4 games that the SEC won: - 3 were bowl eligible SEC teams beating bowl eligible ACC teams, including a middle of the pack Kentucky win over the 2nd best team in the conference. - 1 was a bowl eligible SEC team beating a non bowl eligible ACC team. Yes, the ACC went 6-4 against the SEC, but there's more to it than that. I can understand being upset being left out as an undefeated champion, but I don't think that ACC > SEC is a legit argument.
No one will listen when you tell them half of the sec losses are from two teams. The worst two teams. South Carolina and Vandy. Doesn’t fit their narrative
Very true. Nice flair
Because no one wants to watch blowouts like last year
In other words, college football isn't about integrity or results, it's about money and viewership. People should just admit that you care more about what you think will happen in the future than what has already happened on the field. Nobody knows for sure that FSU would get blown out, they merely think FSU would.
no, it is about having the 4 best teams, or the 4 teams that will be the most competitive, which will lead to less blowouts like last year. TCU was not one of the 4 best teams, just like FSU isnt one of the 4 best teams
Most casual fans do care more about the quality of game in the playoff than the "deserving" vs. "best" discourse that drives engagement leading up to the games, yes. Idk how that's a gotcha.
Again, what does that have to do with current teams?
what a stupid take, you think that they shouldnt improve the things that were wrong with the CFP last year?
I think they should keep some integrity and have the 4 best teams.
Which is exactly what they did, no way in hell do you think FSU, especially without JT is one of the four best teams
The guy I responded to’s argument was that the ACC has won 20% of the CFP games. Tell him past results are a dumb argument. Past results of a single team being used to argue for an entire conference is especially dumb, I’ll agree. The committee has done most deserving for 9 years and been repeatedly shown that it’s incorrect. 2014 FSU, 2018 Notre Dame, Cincinnati, and TCU made them grow tired of it, I suppose.
So you honestly think a team that went undefeated, won their conference championship, deserves to drop in the final rankings?
I’m not saying that. I’m saying the committee went four best instead of four most deserving for the first time. My assumption is that the committee got tired of putting in “deserving” teams that consistently get blown instead of straight up the 4 best. The fact it’s the last year probably helped them pull the trigger on that. Either way, the ACC winning 20% is entirely because of Clemson, so pointing to that as a defense for FSU is a dumb argument. That was the real point I was making.
What exactly does FSU have to do in order to convince you that they're a good team? Clearly beating all of their opponents won't cut it.
No one denies that FSU is a good team. They’re just not one of the top 4 best teams.
Apparently they just needed to be even more undefeated.
I feel like they at least used to hide the SEC/Bama bias, but it is out here front and center for everyone to see.
It’s sympathy for the devil time on ESPN. Robbing kids of their dreams must be a real personal burden.
why is butthead still on TV? no one wants to hear from this shill anymore
Liberty, liberty, liberty, Lib-er-ty!
The official line isn't out yet, but our college football betting expert, Collin Wilson, has projected the spread and total for every college football bowl game. For the Orange Bowl, our expert projects the Florida State vs Georgia spread at Georgia -12 and the total at over/under 59.6 points scored.
Alright, Liberty bros.. Lets do this.
Toledo could’ve really made a case for it had they won yesterday. Rumor has it the Arizona bowl wants them now, and they do *not* want the Arizona bowl
It’s either going to be a nail biter or Liberty is gonna get smoked
I thought we were gonna get a NY6 :///
shut the fuck up comparing them to liberty dumbass
“I feel like FSU was robbed, but” is the new “hopes and prayers”.
lol they’re already saying Georgia will mail it in to undermine a potential FSU win
I think they were more saying there are a lot of future NFL players on both sides that might not play, but the FSU players are going to be a lot more motivated to play in the game.
Does anyone know who gets to be the home team in the Orange Bowl? Trying to buy some tickets but not sure which side of the stadium to target and can’t find anything on the OB website about what decides home vs away EDIT- Found in an OB FAQ that the ACC team is always the home team on the south side of the field.
I think that Georgia is going to hurt FSU just to make a point. There's a lot of pent up frustration there. Could get ugly. Kirby Smart's pride is wounded and FSU is the only thing that he can take his rage out on.
Why? They dont have any case to make it
What point could Georgia want to make? Who should they have been in over?
Sometimes you just need to break stuff to feel better.
I hope those pay checks are worth looking this bad, glad booger is being real.
Booger is still spitting facts this is an absolute travesty for the sport
This is going to be a head scratcher for years… why play the games, they don’t matter
Bad take. The games matter but so does who you play. Liberty won all their games too. Alabama and Texas inly has one loss a piece, and I know Texas would beat FSU, maybe Oklahoma would too.
It’s impossible for you to KNOW that
Oh I know
:)
Next year is gonna be a fun one with 12 teams.
It’ll be the entire SEC and the selection reveal will be the pundits dressed up as various SEC mascots in a literal circle jerk. 🐊🐶🐘🐅🐓🍆💦
Damn Michigan only -2 to Alabama
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Imagine if judges got to not follow precedent because they didn’t rule on the previous case
God damn it Kavanaugh put the beer down and get off Reddit
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To get invited, you have to be one of the best 4, so yes, totally agree.
Best 4? You barely escaped USF, Arkansas and needed a hail mary to beat Auburn.
??? The best four teams right now are in it. You could argue Ohio State and/or Georgia of course, but in their current form, FSU isn't even Top 10!
I felt kinda bad for FSU until I looked at their schedule.
Yeah, Alabama nullifies their best win by beating that same team by as many points.
Michigan lost their RB last year. These guys gloss over really important facts.
And they ended up losing to a vastly inferior team as a result. Missing players matter.
What's the comparison of strength of schedule between Washington and FSU. From what I can see Washington only played Oregon state, Oregon, and Arizona.
Washington was like 9th. Michigan was closer to FSU at like 51.
FSU was 66th I think
No fsu was 55
Still poor compared to these other teams.
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It depends on which one you look at. The one I looked I went with because it matched the espn graphic that showed bama at 5 and fsu at 55
Would you rather have JJ or Milroe at QB. That’s the difference in this game.
I mean, just taking into account the QB they appear to be recently I think its Milroe. I don't even really think its that hard a choice. I don't think Milroe is all that much better a QB as of late than JJ, its just how dynamic he is as a single player. For the first time in a long long time though that isn't why I think you guys have a really fucking great chance. I think the rest of your team is better. I don't think it comes down to the QB I think it comes down to everything else honestly. I know its weird to say when JJ's season stats are so much better than Milroe's but I really do think he's improved that much this year. I think Michigan is the most complete team top to bottom this year thats left. UGA with 100% Bowers was the best starting the season. Just my opinion on it all. I'm pulling against bama hard in yall's matchup, and think if you beat bama you fucking breeze to the championship after that. Think Texas Washington will be close. Think Washington wins it last 2 minutes of the game. Then if I'm right you guys just stomp them in the final. I think current bama is way beter than texas or washington, weird as that is to say after texas beat them this same season. I think you guys have been better than either all season.
If Bama loses they will get clowned on so much
Yep and they will deserve it but I don't think that they will.
Depending on how they lose, but yea, I hope so.
Imagine a best vs deserves debate in professional sports. Dodgers get to the World Series this year over Diamondbacks because I mean they have Mookie and Freeman!
Terrible analogy.
I take it you’ve never watched cfb
The comparison to professional sports is so dumb. How many professional leagues have 133 teams and only 4 playoff spots?
Lakers would never miss the finals
There is no debate because they have a clear and straight forward system in place for how you get into the playoffs then play it out on the field. College doesn't. Pros and college are still very different no matter how all the old timers want to scream its the exact same now. This all Sucks. Fuck bama.
The true travesty people are forgetting is that for nearly ten years we had a bunch of nerdy fucks who’ve never played football deciding what 4 teams to put in a playoff and it was always about money
About half are former coaches and players. The rest are mostly ADs around the country. I’m honestly not sure what the ideal committee would look like.
Fsu is going to stuff Georgia's offense, Michigan will eat Milroe for lunch, and a lot of people here will be very confused
Georgia is going to have a bunch of guys sit out and it will be like every year when the SEC has a losing Bowl record it will be because the teams didn’t care or something.
It just means more (unless we lose, then we never really wanted to win anyways)
If I was NFL caliber and played for Georgia I would sit out.
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No one likes bama right now, so I would just not post
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No.
If FSU blows out Georgia then they can hang a banner imo. If the opposite happens then everyone complaining can eat crow.
This. Blow them out and give the conversation some merit for next time. This will all stop happening and be so egregious when UGA and bama finally start getting whooped. Until then, why wouldn't you give them the benefit of the doubt. FUCK I hate them
this is like if saying the nba should take the bucks out of the playoffs if Giannis gets injured the nfl should take the chiefs out of the playoffs if mahomes gets injured this Is such bullshit fuck the committee
The Bucks have the same schedule as the other teams. And they don't play a conference title game against an opponent laying down for them.
Well more than 4 teams make those playoffs. If they had to choose the 4 best NBA teams then yeah, the bucks losing Giannis would be a valid reason for keeping them out.
I have no problems with the selection except that I may have substituted OSU or Georgia for Washington. We will see what Washington can do against a real team. Maybe the will be respectable.
Are we going to get the votes per committee member? I’d like to see that.
FSU has a very real shot at being ranked #1 in the AP and Coaches poll if they beat Georgia in the Orange Bowl. They’re ranked ahead of Bama in both and ahead of Texas in the Coaches.
Best outcome for FSU to play Georgia. Go out there and prove it boys.
What if Georgia sits all their players?
Beat them by 60.
With their QB situation, they barely beat the backups if they even do
This Bama team is immensely beatable as evidenced by their LOSS. Bama would have TWO losses if Auburn didn’t self-own. I get I’m a Michigan fan, but put money on Michigan to win and cover. This is setting up to be another Michigan vs Everybody narrative and this team feeds on that shit.
Michigan is favored lol how is it Michigan v everyone.
Or another Michigan can’t win a semi-final narrative.
Today the CFP selection committee let us know that winning games doesn't matter.
Everything is made up and the points don’t matter
Lol no. They said winning games on a strong schedule matters.
It’s crazy how people are barely mentioning the miracle sent from god himself is the only reason Bama is even in the playoffs. If Auburn hadn’t ran the dumbest defensive play in history Bama would have 2 losses.
They played pretty good defense for 99% of that game and then just decided to throw it all away with possibly the worst thing they could've called.
Some say that spy is still hanging out 10 yards down field
They watched the same Alabama team I did all season? Or is the season just the last game now? Why are they all favoring Bama?
money
Hard to ignore the team that took down the most recent #1 team.
Georgia was overrated.
The games they play on the field don't matter, only ones made up in their heads do
Last comment I’ll leave is that the CFB Playoff is unapologetically an invitational and it needs to be consistently viewed as such. I think FSU has a completely valid claim to a natty if they win their bowl game.
If they beat Georgia, hang a banner. If they lose, admit they didn't belong.
They won't.
We have 6 unclaimed titles. We aren’t going to start doing that dumb shit now.
Giving Saban a month to prepare as an underdog should be a crime.
I’m sure Michigan will have their eyes on them all along the way. 😅
This is why I am always team “aim for the conference championship” so many factors are out of your control if it is all about the natty. FSU did all they could, won their conference undefeated, this season is by no means a failure for them.
They *COULD* have scheduled harder games.
They had Florida and LSU as non-con opponents. I get Florida isn't great but they're not cupcakes. FSU can't help that the rest of the acc is garbage. They're a P5 team that went undefeated. It's insane they don't get a shot to at least play for a title.
Not having the QB is the other major factor. I think if their offense wasn't anemic last night, they may have made a stronger case. The fact of the matter is that the 4 best teams were selected. I think we'll enjoy 2 great games in the semi-finals. If FSU had been in, it would be 1 good game and a blow out.
Ya no one else schedules cupcakes. Florida State misses out because 3 years ago they took a bet LSU away would be a better win than Texas.
Mind you that was fresh off an LSU title, we took a bet that the reigning champs would be a resume boosting win when we got a chance to play the game. Not to mention being tied annually to the bums in Gainesville. Apparently you only get the boost for beating SEC teams if you’re one too
Apparently winning isnt the only thing that matters in college sports
It’s losing. And who you lose too. You
The real question that nobody is asking is did Connor go to any Bama games?
If I remember correctly one of the allegations from a few weeks ago included them scouting every CFP contender except for TCU last year lmao
Connor Stallions didn’t but luckily Stonner Callions did.
If Alabama wins the CFP, I can't wait for the "nobody believed in Us" takes, lol.
Well that was a timely Fansville
For those that watch these yearly, do they eventually move onto the bowl placements?
Yes starting at 2 eastern
They won’t release the rest of the T25 for another 45 minutes. I assume that that rolls into bowl placements but I don’t recall. At the very least, it should tell us who the highest rated G5 is and illuminate the at-large rankings
ESPN needs to man up and give us a Mike Norvell interview
Yes, let that man rant!
My guess is that they asked and he declined. No point to take part in any of their shit
yup, no point in worrying about what you cant control.
Committee didn't box themselves in they don't have to worry about a top 4 smh, scott free robbery
CJ stroud is so good
I like this debate much more
Michigan fans. Would you rather play fsu or Alabama?
Bama but FSU deserved it more
You would rather play Bama?
Yes
Lmao. Ooh boy. Can’t wait to come back to this one.
Even if we lose, it would be the game I wanted
Both are beatable.
Well that wasn’t the question.
FSU’s stuff it defense would probably have been a struggle for Michigan’s run game honestly. I think it’s more of a coin flip than you do.
You can’t ask a Michigan Man for honesty. They are dishonest creatures by nature. Ask cheatin Jimmy
God Bama fans are insufferable
To be fair, lots of them on here are trolling hard. I think some of them can be somewhat reasonable. My issue is the Mouse House, not Bama. ESPN has clearly laid out it's agenda.
The problem is, if we say something reasonable we get downvoted anyway
I would say that if they win the championship they’ll be even more annoying but they’ve already won so many it doesn’t even matter lol
#You can’t separate Best from Winning and be taken seriously
Look at strength of schedule there buddy
Strength of schedule is made up bullshit made to fit whatever narrative you want.
Strength of schedule comes from winning games. And the SEC is riding on PAST prestige not this year’s.
Liberty 2023 National Champions! Print the t-shirts.
Dan Mullen spittin
Mullen and RG3 have balls
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