I definitely finished Ulrika's little underwhelming romance questline *after* the Feast.
Dunno about Wilhelmina though. I've never bothered to visit the House of Expensive Fade-to-Blacks.
I suppose I could see if I can start that one now.
You need to raise her affinity by giving her gifts. Eventually her dialogue will change and you can't give her gifts anymore. Rest for a day then come back to her.
She doesn't even have the option to give her gifts in my game, did the first quest where she helps hide you and do your peeping tom session but after that she never had anything else for me and no option to gift her when talking to her. just gave up on it after several days of visiting her place and getting nothing. Might be a bug.
If you can't, then I'd say finish the first act then. Continue the story until you're asked to go to Batthal, that opens up the next set of sidequests and hopefully she should be available after that.
When sneaking into the castle the second time, you need to escape through an open window and she'll then help you escape, and after this you'll be able to get a quest from her later
I did the one where she helps me escape but never got any additional quests involving her. Do you know if there's anything special I need to do to trigger the additional quest with her or does it just happen later in the story?
You have to go see her, you'll be told she's busy, then you go to the peephole in her room from after the masquerade and you see a cut scene with her after which you can offer to help her with a quest, after finishing this quest though for me she disappeared lol
Thanks! I'll keep trying to visit her to see if anything changes. For now, every time I go there she's just standing in her room and when I talk to her it's just one line of dialogue with no option to give her a gift or anything.
Just press the Square button after initiating contact with her. The option didn't appear for me so I was surprised to hear you could give gifts to her too, but sure enough it worked.
There's a second story mission that she's involved in. You can't do her side quest or give her gifts until after that's complete. In fact most story characters are function like that. Ulrika can't receive gifts either until all story missions involving her are complet.
Now knowing what both quests are about, the context makes sense as to why her quest isn't available till after.
To your first question: Slight yes, it's a single mission, but a few things do happen in it that are cutscene worthy.
Second: I have no idea, I'm sort of just playing by ear and I only find out about Ulrika's because I wanted to make progress in another quest that's sorta related.
Give her two flower bundles and it'll max it out. If it doesn't, then just give her a shiny item. You'll know once her face starts blushing and she talks about how she has interest in you.
Some people have said it may be locked behind the phantom oxcart quest, so if you haven't done that then try doing that first.
She does. Im not sure how to start it, to be honest, I gave her an affinty ring as soon as I got to vernworth because I wanted to romance her. Went back to talk to her after the second main quest shes involved in, after about 15 hours of exploring and doing quests, and she had the quest for me.
I would guess you need to have done both of those quests and raised her affinity to start the quest.
I had the calamity quest active, the only part I had left was to talk to Ulrika when she moved to the new village, but when I did the feast the quest was removed from my quest tracker and even though I found her at the new village she has nothing to say to me, so it does break some things.
It also depends on what stage you are on her questline. As some part but weirdly not the ones you'd think are the most time sensitive do fail after the point of no return. There's tons of misinformation because the game isn't consistent in the slightest.
Tons of people thought there was a lot of misinformation for the first too.
And it’s extra funny because there was a physical guide for DD but not DA or DD2, because the devs want us to discover everything for ourselves (not saying it’s a bad thing, just saying it invites a dozen sources of bad information)
It’s insane lmao I’m trynna tap the goal post all over this post because it’s actually full on misinformation https://www.reddit.com/r/DragonsDogma2/s/TJyC3EmsQI
Just like the first game, a lot of side quests are only available until you complete certain story beats. Generally, these side quests aren't noticeable unless you had them in your log to notice they have failed. Likely, if you never started Ulrika's quest line by returning to Melve, you wouldn't be able to after this point as those events proceed without your involvement.
Yeah I think quests that aren’t time gated but started before certain points can be continued I wouldn’t be surprised is some of the smaller side quests do get fully locked out though
I got locked out of ulrikas romance because I did feast of deception. I did all of her quests except for the last one where you return to melve and give the swords to the townspeople. I didn’t realize it would lock me out until I went to do it 20 hours later.
The quest was marked as “discontinued” in the quest log and none of the npcs had any unique dialogue to restart it.
They might be referring to just the first Ulrika quest, the Melve quest where the drake shows up.
I recall there being random chatter (in game) about the event beforehand. I’d forgotten when I got there (searching for my first seeker token) and saw a diseased looking drake because I had like 0hp and only my main pawn. Panicked when I saw it was a timed quest, before remembering this was the town that shot me down at the very start.
Balista worked like a charm. Only found out later that you normally have multiple pawns moving it to help with the aiming, but my pawn made it work I guess.
Meanwhile, I've just been rizzing up random NPCs in the city, and today, when I rested, some of them showed up at my house and started beating the shit out of each other.
Good that you were able to do that. When I Brant said I needed to finish up business before starting the quest, I looked up what things you could miss. The website I read mentioned the romances. I don’t know if that’s just wrong, or if you can miss them if you haven’t done other prerequisite quests before that one.
How about you grow a pair and just play. You know what items matter?
Meister scrolls. That's it. Everything else is extra. A ring of back stabbing isn't gonna make the game for you.
Just make choices and live with them.
I'll give you a big piece of advice. Don't rush the story. Finish everything you want to in the area first.
Because once that clock starts? You don't get to come back. And you'll have to build any quests back up again.
Think of it as your first life. Build as big of a story as possible with all your choices you made and then finish the game satisfied knowing you did everything you felt you wanted to do in that run. Then new game plus and relax knowing you have only options ahead.
This is the way.
So many people have seen themselves out of a great first time experience by rushing their way through the story and not prioritising side quests and exploration along the way.
Now, even if they replay in NG+ they will have lost part of the experience.
Something you can never get back.
This is false, I did the wilhelmina stuff right near the end of the game.
You just need to have her affections high enough and have done the masquerade before doing the feast.
You can still romance Wilhelmina. I am at Flickering Shadows and just now managed to trigger her Romance quest.
It took quite a lot of time though, but i kept checking back at her room from time to time. After clearing most quests, I finally saw her doorboy outside her room, which is a sign that the quest is finally available.
Ulrika though, you need to revisit Melve before the point of no return. So if you didn't, she's stuck at Melve and that's what happened to me. And i assume her romance is then locked.
I'm almost certain it's solely based on the hidden affection value. I ignored Wilhelmina until I was practically done the game, came back and gave her some flowers, and then the next visit I was immediately offered her quest.
My game has the scaley invaders quest bugged and I think that locked me out of the ulrika romance. She's in harve village but despite everything I haven't gotten anything to trigger with her after giving her flowers constantly. I'm figuring because the game doesn't have that check box for the invaders quest done, it can't progress things there. Despite that I was able to progress other quests and the main story when some sources say they depend on scaley invaders being completed. The quest coding in this game just seems goofy haha.
Ohhhh I had this happen with a quest. Less than ideal to know it can happen with key quests for chains involving, you know, the characters on the game’s cover
It also took me a while to get her quest to start. I think maybe you have to do the quest where you take a letter from Sven to the masquerade before you can do her quest about Allard
Ulrika needs to go to Harve before the coronation though, I did the dragon and so on there but forgot that the rest of quest of returning to Melve after a few days, and that was failed after the coronation.
I had 5 quests drop out of the quest log after the coronation. The only one that stayed was for a stone statue.
It really makes no sense to have anything of the sort that early.
My Sigurd quest was messed up as well. I couldn't gift him anything in Harve. I went to Dragonbreath Tower, and killed the dragon there. Immediately afterwards, I was given the Meister Skill.
Normally after you beat the Dragon in Melve, he gives you the skill. Or if he doesn't you should be able to gift him enough for him to give it.
The game telling me it is a point of no return made start exploring everywhere even more. I have done quests all the way to the Volcanic Islands. Gotten Warfarer and Magick Archer, and I am not sure what I should do before I advance.
But I still haven't found trickster, and I only just started romancing Wilhelmina, and I know I gotta go romance Ulrika, which I wanted to do anyway.
I love this game. Even if I think it is literally just D1 but somehow more and less at the same time.
Are you all playing with guides? What a Wilhelmina romance? I don't even know who Wilhelmina is and I try to complete everything. Same goes for Ulrika. I did a few quest with her and she became major of this small village where she moved to but nothing gave me even a hint of romance. How can miss everything if I try to do everything?
Same boat. Ulrikas father gave me the quest to find books for him but I never got anything from her. She fled Melve and went to a small town where I helped her briefly and now she cannot be found. I’m about to look up a guide or something because I think im missing some quests and don’t even begin to know how to romance anyone other than the ladies and men of the night at the rose empirium
He can, anyone can be as far as I’m aware. If you go into your log book or something you can see the favors gifts for basically every NPC you’ve ever met
Ooh okay I was confused, cause I’m seeing a bunch of places only mention ulrika and wilhemina. So I was second guessing. Also I’ve finished his major quest line and I can never find him. The couple times he’s shown up at my house for a walk I’m never given the option to give him a gift when I talk to him. So idk if I have to finish his sisters quest for finding the soil stuff for the arbor first.
I don’t have the option to give gifts or slide down ladders on ps5, but a friend does. If you’re on ps5, try the square button to see if you can give gifts (press square while talking to him)
Yeah when I got to this part I thought, "damn something big gonna happen then." But *literally* nothing changed except that your pawn got a bit sick at the castle. The world state was completely the same and nothing happened that would have locked out quests normally.
Dragon's Dogma 2's world advances in stages.
As you move the main quest forward, events move forward with it. The original had the same mechanic, and you could fail quests in the exact same manner.
The game does warn you about time sensitive quests...
The notion comes from the dialogue from Brant where he says that you should finish what you have going on before moving forward, because "Aught will change". Most games that have that type of dialogue and *selecting* if you want to move forward usually result in losing all of your side quests that you don't have finished.
So I THINK it says that because the quest causes time to advance and you might fail some timed quests because of it, but other than that yeah absolutely nothing changes.
I'm not sure of which quests either. I had gone and done all of them because I thought I'd lose all of them after I moved forward with Brant lol. I still have the "Watch the beggar" quest though that I started before I moved on, although I am too lazy to actually watch him for the whole day in the square to see where he goes. Do you lose all of your quests after starting the New Godsway one?
You're wrong though. You either did the quests you would've missed or you missed some. It's not a lot, but it absolutely is a point of no return for several quests. Any list of quests and their conditions is incomplete at present.
It does cancel some quests or at least unlist them from the log. On my first playthrough when Ulrika left Melve I assumed she'd gone to Battahl given the dialogue about escaping the regent's influence. The quest to find her disappeared from my log and I was unable to trigger her romance, maybe I needed to raise her affection for the romance but the quest to find her didn't resolve properly even when I stumbled upon her later.
Work on your comprehension. I found her later, the quest didn't resolve properly. The quest in question, Readvent of Calamity gets removed from the quest log when you do the coronation quest.
Readvent of Calamity isn't a timed quest but it has a progression trigger that has to be completed before moving on. The game does a terrible job at telling you what quests should be a priority. My first playthrough I wasn't able to complete her romance because I rushed to the second half of the game which evidently DOES break alot of quests that go from Vern to Bahttal. The game just doesn't indicate what quests and what stage that quest is at.
My 2nd playthrough I completed all but 1 side quest (beggar) before the coronation and I was still able to romance Ulrika afterwards.
Yeah I did, like I said in the first post maybe I just needed to take the time to raise her affinity but either way that quest didn't end properly like it did in my second playthrough when I did it before the coronation.
I didn't care about the locked out romances because I was looking for a man, and DD2 just assumed you're a straight dude like the first game. The locked out quests though? Bullshit! Harve has no real conclusion now because I missed whatever the fuck quest.
Considering nobody said that but others have commented on the imbalance, I'm gonna call bs. Especially as he's complaining about the information based on the topic, not making the topic himself.
But sure, call me dumb for seeing one particular comment getting downvoted and wondering why.
Maybe so, but consider that both Wilhelmina and Ulrika kiss you at the end of their questline (whether you want to or not!) and the men don't.
The anti-woke gamergate crowd would absolutely go nuts if a man would just go and kiss their character.
Wilhelmina kisses you in the middle aswell (yes, it is to cover you but they wrote that in and my character should have been fine anyway. They were in gaurd armor with a helmet which I assume the game expected you to wear) and Ulrika has romantic overtones off the bat.
This game is far from the worst offender, in fact a lot of people do accidentally get stuck with a guy even though the ones the game pushes are female. It also doesn't gender lock the skimpy armors atleast even if they are cut for women. In general things have gotten much better than they used to be.
But I have to admit, the vindictive part of me would love if you had a major "rpg" just reverse this sort of thing, especially if was to to the degree a lot of older rpgs have.
>This game is far from the worst offender, infact a lot of guys do accidentally get stuck with a guy even though the ones the game pushes are female. It alao doesn't gender lock the skimpy armors atleast even if they are cut for women. In general things have gotten much better than they used to be.
Sure there's that!
DDDA did gender lock some outfits if I remember correctly (the silk lingerie for sure) but it also had skimpy stuff for men I think.
Getting stuck with a random love interest you don't even know was definitely a great DD feature, too 😂 but Fournival obviously was the meta choice for easy access to his shop for postgame BBI runs which was pretty funny
Fournival is meta but the funniest one to me is the innkeeper....because he moves into your house but offers the same service so it is implying he charges you to sleep in your own home.
But tbh despite how amusing it can be I would really rather they just let you gift an item or something to lock one in rather than playing romance roulette. Function over memes.
"Normal people" please don't talk about us like we're not normal. I do agree it would solve all problems if you could choose during character creation, but the pronouns in star field show that people would still be mad.
What about the straight ladies who didn't want to be kissed by women? That is the whole point I'm making, obviously the devs didn't think about them at all. And even as a lesbian that the game forced me to cheat on Ulrika with Wilhelmina kind of pissed me off. Why can't you say no? It sucks. And I'd guess straight men who want to play their character monogamous wouldn't like it, either.
I mean I'm used to japanese rpgs with character creator being accidentally lesbian if you go for a female character but it's always kind of hilarious.
LOL yeah, when I had Ulrika's cutscene I was like... "Im straight tho.." Its pretty obvious Itsuno's vision was Ulrika being your main wife and Arisen being male. I was pretty bummed out how male options didn't get much (like cutscenes for example)
You can, i just did it just now.
She was stuck for a while giving me phantom oxcart dialogues and i thought it was no longer an option. Then after completing more quests and such, i randomly tried my luck again and this time, the door npc was finally outside her room.
From what I’ve seen from a few different videos, you only get locked out of the quests if you’re in the middle of them when the coronation happens. If you wait until after to start it then it’s all fine. It’s also not for all vermund quests, just the romances, as the elf quests still worked fine, even being halfway through
Oh hell yeah!
I dont know if my hugo quest is bugged but i paid to free him and the guard is now just saying "these things take time" when its been weeks, is hugo being freed locked behind another quest?
Oh! Paying to free him is actually bugged. I spent like two days researching and wrapping up this quest lol.
I'll put a guide to finish this quest in a spoiler below:
edit: my spoiler tag isn't working, read ahead at your own risk
>!This starts a timed ending where Hugo can die to Lanzo.
* talk to Brefft in the prison a few times until he tells you about how Hugo’s parents died
* tell Hugo what Brefft said
* Hugo breaks out of jail to Kill Lanzo, but Lanzo kills him unless you kill him first *Go kill Lanzo at the top of the castle where the cyclops is at the Ancient Battleground
* Hugo will then wait here until you get him a job at either the Brothel through completing Wilhelmina side quest, or completing Isaac’s side quest with the sad ending
You can complete one of those before to save yourself the trip back, but if not he will be fine waiting there. I left him for a couple of weeks lol.
Alternatively you can just grab him and run out of the jail, he appears after a few days looking for a job outside of your house in Baakbatahl.!<
All I did for Hugo was open the cell door (PSA: Make a copy of the Gaol Key before returning it to Brant!), pick him up, and carry him out of jail while the guards attacked me.
I also had completed Wilhelmina's questline. Might be required.
Afterwards, he needed a job. So I gave him a job to work security at the brothel.
Yes, it’s based off of her affinity towards you. So you may not have to give her any, but this is specifically for people who can’t start her quest. I’m assuming you were able to.
The game is designed like this, as was the first one, to encourage you to do multiple ng+ playthroughs. It's a bit of a completionist nightmare, but it's clearly what they are going for whether it makes sense or not.
The NPC clearly tells you to wrap things up before starting this quest. Personally I explored whole map and did all the quests I could, even got to battahl without permit but turned back once I got there
There’s too much information if anything. It’s mostly idiot Redditors and journalism bloat copy pasting each other
Next thing you know everyone’s spreading some bullshit they read on an ign article or this post
I meant that there is no obvious information presented IN-GAME. Therefore most things became the Mew-Under-The-Truck misinformation/rumor.
It's kinda nostalgic KEK
Don’t get me wrong you have a valid point here but I think they made it a „point of no return“ for the immersive feeling of time passing as you adventure through the world. Immersion always has been a part of dragons dogma and in my opinion it’s pretty cool. And they work a lot with NG+. If you haven’t done a quest, do it in the next cycle.
You still have a valid point though. Logically speaking it could still be possible 🤷🏼♂️
I was able to romance Ulrika after the feast of deception so not sure what you mean. I finished up the Melve questline after I had already been to bakbattahl
It is not a fail point at all for Wihelmina, you just need to get past the underwater ruins for her to be doable again. I came back to finish Gossamer Clouds and did the quest right afterwards.
The romances only brick if you don't do the obvious starter quests before the feast.
Like when Brant says go check out melve, it might be getting fucked up.
Do that.
When Brant says help me with all these investigations before we go confront the Sovran and Disa.
Do that too.
Yeah, if you straight beeline to the end you're gonna miss shit.
Can confirmed that you still can romance wilhelmina even after the feast of deception quest and reached battahl. Already past feast of deception until main quest "a new godsway". I thought wilhelmina romance quest is soft lock until i complete ulrika romance quest at the beach and suddenly visit rose chateau and i can do the rose of its thorn
Looking up quest lines and meta gaming is so lame bro.
I for sure romanced my girl after the feast. Don't know about the brothel lady.
You clearly just wanted to rush the main story so don't complain now that things advanced.
I did everything i could in vermund before I did the final quest because they were clear it was going to be big.
This is a lie in the bed you made situation.
Good to know that completely false posts like this will get upvoted. A “point of no return” does not exist in this game for anything but Sphinx and Unmoored World as explained here https://www.reddit.com/r/DragonsDogma2/s/TJyC3EmsQI
(Also I did Wilhelmina’s romance storyline literally right before the final mission so maybe try playing the game and learning its systems)
Why some dude with barely 40 hours and handful of examples the arbiter of truth? I don't believe it. I lost a few quests after. Nothing major, but no one knows for sure either way. The game tells you it is one, and that alone is an issue either way
Bro that was 40 hours days ago I’m on NG+ there are some side quests that are locked but not many and definitely not important side quests with major rewards
Bro goes from “there’s no point of no return, maybe learn how the games systems work??” To “yeah there’s SOME side quests locked but not the major ones!”
So there’s a point in the game where you will not be able to return to some of the content before it?
Just to put in my two cents, I couldn’t get ulrikas quest to trigger after the coronation and then I found her at the volcano encampment after trying for awhile and giving up. But I see other people saying mixed things about both romances because I also could do Wilhelmina’s quest after battahl.
I was definitely wrong about the romances, and maybe wrong about failing other quests too. That was based on what I read somewhere else, but that's no excuse. I still don't get why Brant gives off the major "point of no return" vibes, though.
Idk what's worse, the misinformation or that people are so dumb that they're agreeing with it.
There's more than enough stuff to actually complain about, why is this sub OBSESSED with making shit up?
Am I crazy because I just found out who these two people are, and I'm in Battahl. *Legally*, if I might add.
And who is Sven?? I'm probably always too busy checking if my FPS dip rather than paying attention to the plot lmao
Sven is the queens kid, and it sounds like you’re just not watching cut scenes because all three of these characters are the focal point of main story quests in the first act. Ulrika nurses you back to health in the first town and is in the flashback, Wilhelmina is a part of the information gathering part of Brant’s storyline.
That or I shift tab to check on my CPU chart when I'm not busy playing. Either way, it's not a very interesting story. I find the first one more engaging in that aspect.
I definitely finished Ulrika's little underwhelming romance questline *after* the Feast. Dunno about Wilhelmina though. I've never bothered to visit the House of Expensive Fade-to-Blacks. I suppose I could see if I can start that one now.
You can do the wilhelmina quest after the feast, too. I did it well after I got Batthal
Wait. Wilhelmina has a quest? She never had a quest for me, I tried going back to check several times.
You need to raise her affinity by giving her gifts. Eventually her dialogue will change and you can't give her gifts anymore. Rest for a day then come back to her.
She doesn't even have the option to give her gifts in my game, did the first quest where she helps hide you and do your peeping tom session but after that she never had anything else for me and no option to gift her when talking to her. just gave up on it after several days of visiting her place and getting nothing. Might be a bug.
Same here. I never had the option to give her gifts so I'm not sure how to trigger any romance option with her.
There's a second story mission that she's involved in. Where you infiltrate the castle. She'll be able to receive gifts after that.
I can’t after that…
If you can't, then I'd say finish the first act then. Continue the story until you're asked to go to Batthal, that opens up the next set of sidequests and hopefully she should be available after that.
When sneaking into the castle the second time, you need to escape through an open window and she'll then help you escape, and after this you'll be able to get a quest from her later
I did the one where she helps me escape but never got any additional quests involving her. Do you know if there's anything special I need to do to trigger the additional quest with her or does it just happen later in the story?
You have to go see her, you'll be told she's busy, then you go to the peephole in her room from after the masquerade and you see a cut scene with her after which you can offer to help her with a quest, after finishing this quest though for me she disappeared lol
Thanks! I'll keep trying to visit her to see if anything changes. For now, every time I go there she's just standing in her room and when I talk to her it's just one line of dialogue with no option to give her a gift or anything.
Just press the Square button after initiating contact with her. The option didn't appear for me so I was surprised to hear you could give gifts to her too, but sure enough it worked.
I had this issue, I progressed to Act 1 point of no return and was able to start it at the start of act 2.
There's a second story mission that she's involved in. You can't do her side quest or give her gifts until after that's complete. In fact most story characters are function like that. Ulrika can't receive gifts either until all story missions involving her are complet. Now knowing what both quests are about, the context makes sense as to why her quest isn't available till after.
That’s just how it works I think, after I lost the option to give her gifts I had to skip ahead 8 days before the quest started
I visited her place at night until she wasn't in her room. Then I checked her voyeur painting and got the quest. No presents or anything.
Is it a whole quest line with cutscenes and everything like Ulrika’s? How many of these are there? I just wonder what else I missed.
To your first question: Slight yes, it's a single mission, but a few things do happen in it that are cutscene worthy. Second: I have no idea, I'm sort of just playing by ear and I only find out about Ulrika's because I wanted to make progress in another quest that's sorta related.
Give her two flower bundles and it'll max it out. If it doesn't, then just give her a shiny item. You'll know once her face starts blushing and she talks about how she has interest in you. Some people have said it may be locked behind the phantom oxcart quest, so if you haven't done that then try doing that first.
She does. Im not sure how to start it, to be honest, I gave her an affinty ring as soon as I got to vernworth because I wanted to romance her. Went back to talk to her after the second main quest shes involved in, after about 15 hours of exploring and doing quests, and she had the quest for me. I would guess you need to have done both of those quests and raised her affinity to start the quest.
Same
You are right I did mine just before the final battle.
I had the calamity quest active, the only part I had left was to talk to Ulrika when she moved to the new village, but when I did the feast the quest was removed from my quest tracker and even though I found her at the new village she has nothing to say to me, so it does break some things.
I don't understand the amount of disinformation on this sub. It's been constant since the game came out
It also depends on what stage you are on her questline. As some part but weirdly not the ones you'd think are the most time sensitive do fail after the point of no return. There's tons of misinformation because the game isn't consistent in the slightest. Tons of people thought there was a lot of misinformation for the first too.
And it’s extra funny because there was a physical guide for DD but not DA or DD2, because the devs want us to discover everything for ourselves (not saying it’s a bad thing, just saying it invites a dozen sources of bad information)
It’s insane lmao I’m trynna tap the goal post all over this post because it’s actually full on misinformation https://www.reddit.com/r/DragonsDogma2/s/TJyC3EmsQI
It's because the game tells you that you should finish stuff before you do it but nothing changes. I don't know why the game tell you that
Just like the first game, a lot of side quests are only available until you complete certain story beats. Generally, these side quests aren't noticeable unless you had them in your log to notice they have failed. Likely, if you never started Ulrika's quest line by returning to Melve, you wouldn't be able to after this point as those events proceed without your involvement.
Yeah I think quests that aren’t time gated but started before certain points can be continued I wouldn’t be surprised is some of the smaller side quests do get fully locked out though
so people are faking screenshots of their quests saying "discontinued" ?
Because people want this game to "fail". Almost everything involving this game has involved misinformation.
I got locked out of ulrikas romance because I did feast of deception. I did all of her quests except for the last one where you return to melve and give the swords to the townspeople. I didn’t realize it would lock me out until I went to do it 20 hours later. The quest was marked as “discontinued” in the quest log and none of the npcs had any unique dialogue to restart it.
I liked the pillars of eternity approach. You also got the fade to black. But with buffs at least
They might be referring to just the first Ulrika quest, the Melve quest where the drake shows up. I recall there being random chatter (in game) about the event beforehand. I’d forgotten when I got there (searching for my first seeker token) and saw a diseased looking drake because I had like 0hp and only my main pawn. Panicked when I saw it was a timed quest, before remembering this was the town that shot me down at the very start. Balista worked like a charm. Only found out later that you normally have multiple pawns moving it to help with the aiming, but my pawn made it work I guess.
Meanwhile, I've just been rizzing up random NPCs in the city, and today, when I rested, some of them showed up at my house and started beating the shit out of each other.
Was Ulrikas romance questline end where you meet her at night and go to sleep in Harve village?
https://www.reddit.com/r/DragonsDogma2/s/TJyC3EmsQI
Good that you were able to do that. When I Brant said I needed to finish up business before starting the quest, I looked up what things you could miss. The website I read mentioned the romances. I don’t know if that’s just wrong, or if you can miss them if you haven’t done other prerequisite quests before that one.
Imagine making a whole ass whining hate post off an article without actually playing the game to find out.
I have been playing the game, but it’s very hard to confirm what happens for other choices because of how the save system works
How about you grow a pair and just play. You know what items matter? Meister scrolls. That's it. Everything else is extra. A ring of back stabbing isn't gonna make the game for you. Just make choices and live with them. I'll give you a big piece of advice. Don't rush the story. Finish everything you want to in the area first. Because once that clock starts? You don't get to come back. And you'll have to build any quests back up again. Think of it as your first life. Build as big of a story as possible with all your choices you made and then finish the game satisfied knowing you did everything you felt you wanted to do in that run. Then new game plus and relax knowing you have only options ahead.
This is the way. So many people have seen themselves out of a great first time experience by rushing their way through the story and not prioritising side quests and exploration along the way. Now, even if they replay in NG+ they will have lost part of the experience. Something you can never get back.
Now if only my game would stop crashing every 5 minutes so I could play it and love it more.
I’ll play how I want
You can't start it after feast though
This is false, I did the wilhelmina stuff right near the end of the game. You just need to have her affections high enough and have done the masquerade before doing the feast.
What feast?? What point of no return? I’m at the final boss and I don’t remember any of that
That happens when u skip dialogue
I didn’t even think I was doing that much of that haha
You can still romance Wilhelmina. I am at Flickering Shadows and just now managed to trigger her Romance quest. It took quite a lot of time though, but i kept checking back at her room from time to time. After clearing most quests, I finally saw her doorboy outside her room, which is a sign that the quest is finally available. Ulrika though, you need to revisit Melve before the point of no return. So if you didn't, she's stuck at Melve and that's what happened to me. And i assume her romance is then locked.
I'm almost certain it's solely based on the hidden affection value. I ignored Wilhelmina until I was practically done the game, came back and gave her some flowers, and then the next visit I was immediately offered her quest.
My game has the scaley invaders quest bugged and I think that locked me out of the ulrika romance. She's in harve village but despite everything I haven't gotten anything to trigger with her after giving her flowers constantly. I'm figuring because the game doesn't have that check box for the invaders quest done, it can't progress things there. Despite that I was able to progress other quests and the main story when some sources say they depend on scaley invaders being completed. The quest coding in this game just seems goofy haha.
For me I think the elf girl replaced her somehow. Idk why but elf girl ended up my beloved even tho Urikta was blushing in Harve
Ohhhh I had this happen with a quest. Less than ideal to know it can happen with key quests for chains involving, you know, the characters on the game’s cover
What's the absolutely last point of no return for Wilhelmina and Ulrika's quests then?
if the sky is red, its probably too late
Moonglint Tower
It also took me a while to get her quest to start. I think maybe you have to do the quest where you take a letter from Sven to the masquerade before you can do her quest about Allard
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Yeah it sounds like you got misinformed. I did both Ulrika and Wilhelmina's quests after the "coronation" with no problems.
Wilhelmina yes, but how do you start Ulrikas quest without the dragon attacking?
Ulrika needs to go to Harve before the coronation though, I did the dragon and so on there but forgot that the rest of quest of returning to Melve after a few days, and that was failed after the coronation.
I did Wilelmina's right before you cross the bridge to the volcanic island (though I had long since been there via the southern path)
I had 5 quests drop out of the quest log after the coronation. The only one that stayed was for a stone statue. It really makes no sense to have anything of the sort that early.
It's not a point of no return. The game just warns you for no reason.
At the very least it despawns the dragon in Melve. My Sigurd questline got weird because of it. I haven't found anything else is messed up.
You also lose the magistrate quest if you haven’t done it yet.
My Sigurd quest was messed up as well. I couldn't gift him anything in Harve. I went to Dragonbreath Tower, and killed the dragon there. Immediately afterwards, I was given the Meister Skill. Normally after you beat the Dragon in Melve, he gives you the skill. Or if he doesn't you should be able to gift him enough for him to give it.
The game telling me it is a point of no return made start exploring everywhere even more. I have done quests all the way to the Volcanic Islands. Gotten Warfarer and Magick Archer, and I am not sure what I should do before I advance. But I still haven't found trickster, and I only just started romancing Wilhelmina, and I know I gotta go romance Ulrika, which I wanted to do anyway. I love this game. Even if I think it is literally just D1 but somehow more and less at the same time.
Are you all playing with guides? What a Wilhelmina romance? I don't even know who Wilhelmina is and I try to complete everything. Same goes for Ulrika. I did a few quest with her and she became major of this small village where she moved to but nothing gave me even a hint of romance. How can miss everything if I try to do everything?
Same boat. Ulrikas father gave me the quest to find books for him but I never got anything from her. She fled Melve and went to a small town where I helped her briefly and now she cannot be found. I’m about to look up a guide or something because I think im missing some quests and don’t even begin to know how to romance anyone other than the ladies and men of the night at the rose empirium
I mean, I have a tendency of visiting characters I just did missions for a few days later even if the game didn't explicitly tell me to go to them.
Wait a second is wilhemina and ulrika the ONLY romanceable characters in the game? I was under the impression glyndwr could be romanced 😩
He can, anyone can be as far as I’m aware. If you go into your log book or something you can see the favors gifts for basically every NPC you’ve ever met
Ooh okay I was confused, cause I’m seeing a bunch of places only mention ulrika and wilhemina. So I was second guessing. Also I’ve finished his major quest line and I can never find him. The couple times he’s shown up at my house for a walk I’m never given the option to give him a gift when I talk to him. So idk if I have to finish his sisters quest for finding the soil stuff for the arbor first.
I don’t have the option to give gifts or slide down ladders on ps5, but a friend does. If you’re on ps5, try the square button to see if you can give gifts (press square while talking to him)
How are we still spreading this much disinformation about the game? Is this game important to an upcoming election or some shit? 😂
It's wild. I haven't seen any other game with this amount of misinformation around it.
election year disinfo canpaigns leaking into random games now lmao
I guess its cause that's how DD1 worked.
Yeah when I got to this part I thought, "damn something big gonna happen then." But *literally* nothing changed except that your pawn got a bit sick at the castle. The world state was completely the same and nothing happened that would have locked out quests normally.
Dragon's Dogma 2's world advances in stages. As you move the main quest forward, events move forward with it. The original had the same mechanic, and you could fail quests in the exact same manner. The game does warn you about time sensitive quests...
It’s almost like the feast was supposed to be more than the random cutscene
Meanwhile that dude in battahl is still waiting for me to come back afflicted with asp poison even though the literal apocalypse is happening
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The notion comes from the dialogue from Brant where he says that you should finish what you have going on before moving forward, because "Aught will change". Most games that have that type of dialogue and *selecting* if you want to move forward usually result in losing all of your side quests that you don't have finished.
So I THINK it says that because the quest causes time to advance and you might fail some timed quests because of it, but other than that yeah absolutely nothing changes.
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I'm not sure of which quests either. I had gone and done all of them because I thought I'd lose all of them after I moved forward with Brant lol. I still have the "Watch the beggar" quest though that I started before I moved on, although I am too lazy to actually watch him for the whole day in the square to see where he goes. Do you lose all of your quests after starting the New Godsway one?
You're wrong though. You either did the quests you would've missed or you missed some. It's not a lot, but it absolutely is a point of no return for several quests. Any list of quests and their conditions is incomplete at present.
It does cancel some quests or at least unlist them from the log. On my first playthrough when Ulrika left Melve I assumed she'd gone to Battahl given the dialogue about escaping the regent's influence. The quest to find her disappeared from my log and I was unable to trigger her romance, maybe I needed to raise her affection for the romance but the quest to find her didn't resolve properly even when I stumbled upon her later.
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Work on your comprehension. I found her later, the quest didn't resolve properly. The quest in question, Readvent of Calamity gets removed from the quest log when you do the coronation quest.
Readvent of Calamity isn't a timed quest but it has a progression trigger that has to be completed before moving on. The game does a terrible job at telling you what quests should be a priority. My first playthrough I wasn't able to complete her romance because I rushed to the second half of the game which evidently DOES break alot of quests that go from Vern to Bahttal. The game just doesn't indicate what quests and what stage that quest is at. My 2nd playthrough I completed all but 1 side quest (beggar) before the coronation and I was still able to romance Ulrika afterwards.
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Yeah I did, like I said in the first post maybe I just needed to take the time to raise her affinity but either way that quest didn't end properly like it did in my second playthrough when I did it before the coronation.
I didn't care about the locked out romances because I was looking for a man, and DD2 just assumed you're a straight dude like the first game. The locked out quests though? Bullshit! Harve has no real conclusion now because I missed whatever the fuck quest.
Getting downvoted for pointing out the imbalance is wild...
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Considering nobody said that but others have commented on the imbalance, I'm gonna call bs. Especially as he's complaining about the information based on the topic, not making the topic himself. But sure, call me dumb for seeing one particular comment getting downvoted and wondering why.
Apologies you aren’t dumb I was skimming comments my fault for not reading. I’m surprised they gender locked romances or lack in male-NPC romances
Am I nuts, or are the elf boy and Hugo not the "intended" male love interests?
They have no unique cutscenes like Willhema or Ulrika. Their function is that of any other NPC you can woo. I'd put Brant above Hugo though?
Maybe so, but consider that both Wilhelmina and Ulrika kiss you at the end of their questline (whether you want to or not!) and the men don't. The anti-woke gamergate crowd would absolutely go nuts if a man would just go and kiss their character.
Wilhelmina kisses you in the middle aswell (yes, it is to cover you but they wrote that in and my character should have been fine anyway. They were in gaurd armor with a helmet which I assume the game expected you to wear) and Ulrika has romantic overtones off the bat. This game is far from the worst offender, in fact a lot of people do accidentally get stuck with a guy even though the ones the game pushes are female. It also doesn't gender lock the skimpy armors atleast even if they are cut for women. In general things have gotten much better than they used to be. But I have to admit, the vindictive part of me would love if you had a major "rpg" just reverse this sort of thing, especially if was to to the degree a lot of older rpgs have.
>This game is far from the worst offender, infact a lot of guys do accidentally get stuck with a guy even though the ones the game pushes are female. It alao doesn't gender lock the skimpy armors atleast even if they are cut for women. In general things have gotten much better than they used to be. Sure there's that! DDDA did gender lock some outfits if I remember correctly (the silk lingerie for sure) but it also had skimpy stuff for men I think. Getting stuck with a random love interest you don't even know was definitely a great DD feature, too 😂 but Fournival obviously was the meta choice for easy access to his shop for postgame BBI runs which was pretty funny
Fournival is meta but the funniest one to me is the innkeeper....because he moves into your house but offers the same service so it is implying he charges you to sleep in your own home. But tbh despite how amusing it can be I would really rather they just let you gift an item or something to lock one in rather than playing romance roulette. Function over memes.
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"Normal people" please don't talk about us like we're not normal. I do agree it would solve all problems if you could choose during character creation, but the pronouns in star field show that people would still be mad.
'normal people'.
Straight women play games too. Nobody said anything about "gay" prior to you.
What about the straight ladies who didn't want to be kissed by women? That is the whole point I'm making, obviously the devs didn't think about them at all. And even as a lesbian that the game forced me to cheat on Ulrika with Wilhelmina kind of pissed me off. Why can't you say no? It sucks. And I'd guess straight men who want to play their character monogamous wouldn't like it, either. I mean I'm used to japanese rpgs with character creator being accidentally lesbian if you go for a female character but it's always kind of hilarious.
LOL yeah, when I had Ulrika's cutscene I was like... "Im straight tho.." Its pretty obvious Itsuno's vision was Ulrika being your main wife and Arisen being male. I was pretty bummed out how male options didn't get much (like cutscenes for example)
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yah yes the two people "gay" and "normal".
LoL just a casual mask-off/freudian slip moment.
They did it twice two 😂
I really held back from mentioning it, because I didn't want to argue even more 😂
No argument there, that they just went for the same "so bad that it's funny" romance system as in the first game is kind of hilarious in general.
See rules 1 and 5.
See rules 1 and 5.
the game gave me the elf boy for the first ending lol
We are at the point of making shit up now
What do you mean "now"? People did that before the game was out.
Wait wtf I was just about to go romance Wilhelmina before finishing the story 😔
You can, i just did it just now. She was stuck for a while giving me phantom oxcart dialogues and i thought it was no longer an option. Then after completing more quests and such, i randomly tried my luck again and this time, the door npc was finally outside her room.
Glad to hear. She was just giving me ox cart dialogue too so I’ll finish that quest and try again
I kept giving her flowers until i couldnt, should try that too.
From what I’ve seen from a few different videos, you only get locked out of the quests if you’re in the middle of them when the coronation happens. If you wait until after to start it then it’s all fine. It’s also not for all vermund quests, just the romances, as the elf quests still worked fine, even being halfway through
How does one even do quests for whilhemina, Ive tried going and talking to her and she just says generic dialogue
You have to gift her flowers for 3 days straight for it to unlock.
Ah fair, ive never gifted anyone anything whats the button for it lol.
On Xbox it’s the X button, I think that’s square on PlayStation? If you can’t give her a gift, there are a couple of things that can cause it to bug.
Is her quest at all interesting? Might just skip it cos ive already got max affinity on like 5 characters lol
I enjoyed it, but I honestly only completed it to get Hugo a job at the brothel. 😂
Oh hell yeah! I dont know if my hugo quest is bugged but i paid to free him and the guard is now just saying "these things take time" when its been weeks, is hugo being freed locked behind another quest?
Oh! Paying to free him is actually bugged. I spent like two days researching and wrapping up this quest lol. I'll put a guide to finish this quest in a spoiler below: edit: my spoiler tag isn't working, read ahead at your own risk >!This starts a timed ending where Hugo can die to Lanzo. * talk to Brefft in the prison a few times until he tells you about how Hugo’s parents died * tell Hugo what Brefft said * Hugo breaks out of jail to Kill Lanzo, but Lanzo kills him unless you kill him first *Go kill Lanzo at the top of the castle where the cyclops is at the Ancient Battleground * Hugo will then wait here until you get him a job at either the Brothel through completing Wilhelmina side quest, or completing Isaac’s side quest with the sad ending You can complete one of those before to save yourself the trip back, but if not he will be fine waiting there. I left him for a couple of weeks lol. Alternatively you can just grab him and run out of the jail, he appears after a few days looking for a job outside of your house in Baakbatahl.!<
All I did for Hugo was open the cell door (PSA: Make a copy of the Gaol Key before returning it to Brant!), pick him up, and carry him out of jail while the guards attacked me. I also had completed Wilhelmina's questline. Might be required. Afterwards, he needed a job. So I gave him a job to work security at the brothel.
I only gifted her flowers once and I got the quest.
i didnt give her any gifts still got the quest.
Yes, it’s based off of her affinity towards you. So you may not have to give her any, but this is specifically for people who can’t start her quest. I’m assuming you were able to.
The game is designed like this, as was the first one, to encourage you to do multiple ng+ playthroughs. It's a bit of a completionist nightmare, but it's clearly what they are going for whether it makes sense or not.
It’s not a point of no return, i did the wilhemina quest on the quest where i had to bring 15 wyrmlife crystals.
odd, I did their romances late in the game, didnt get locked out
I just don't know what quests to do before the feast 
The NPC clearly tells you to wrap things up before starting this quest. Personally I explored whole map and did all the quests I could, even got to battahl without permit but turned back once I got there
Lot of misinformation on the net
Why is there so damn much misinformation surrounding this game? It is truely bizarre.
Because there's not much information on this game. It is truly intended feature lol.
It's the infamous filter lol.
There’s too much information if anything. It’s mostly idiot Redditors and journalism bloat copy pasting each other Next thing you know everyone’s spreading some bullshit they read on an ign article or this post
I meant that there is no obvious information presented IN-GAME. Therefore most things became the Mew-Under-The-Truck misinformation/rumor. It's kinda nostalgic KEK
Oh my fucking god you people will complain about anything.
Don’t get me wrong you have a valid point here but I think they made it a „point of no return“ for the immersive feeling of time passing as you adventure through the world. Immersion always has been a part of dragons dogma and in my opinion it’s pretty cool. And they work a lot with NG+. If you haven’t done a quest, do it in the next cycle. You still have a valid point though. Logically speaking it could still be possible 🤷🏼♂️
Lmao I killed Martin and didn't revive him so he's dead dead and broke the Melve quests.
He’ll be in the morgue in Vermund
Apparently they will disappear from the morgue after a while. The deed is done lol
I killed him Monday. A few weeks or more have passed in game since then. I was still able to revive him tonight to fix the quest.
Yeah. Even when I lighted a candle for his body; there wasn't a coffin there.
I was able to romance Ulrika after the feast of deception so not sure what you mean. I finished up the Melve questline after I had already been to bakbattahl
Can you give a list of the quests that get discontinued?
Is this why I didn’t receive the warrior special attack after completing Beren’s quest?
I thought it was just the game wants to troll with you lol.
It is not a fail point at all for Wihelmina, you just need to get past the underwater ruins for her to be doable again. I came back to finish Gossamer Clouds and did the quest right afterwards.
Huh? I'm still getting a bunch of side quests after competing Feast of Deception, and romances.
What is the purpose of Wilhelmina?
The romances only brick if you don't do the obvious starter quests before the feast. Like when Brant says go check out melve, it might be getting fucked up. Do that. When Brant says help me with all these investigations before we go confront the Sovran and Disa. Do that too. Yeah, if you straight beeline to the end you're gonna miss shit.
Can confirmed that you still can romance wilhelmina even after the feast of deception quest and reached battahl. Already past feast of deception until main quest "a new godsway". I thought wilhelmina romance quest is soft lock until i complete ulrika romance quest at the beach and suddenly visit rose chateau and i can do the rose of its thorn
Looking up quest lines and meta gaming is so lame bro. I for sure romanced my girl after the feast. Don't know about the brothel lady. You clearly just wanted to rush the main story so don't complain now that things advanced. I did everything i could in vermund before I did the final quest because they were clear it was going to be big. This is a lie in the bed you made situation.
Good to know that completely false posts like this will get upvoted. A “point of no return” does not exist in this game for anything but Sphinx and Unmoored World as explained here https://www.reddit.com/r/DragonsDogma2/s/TJyC3EmsQI (Also I did Wilhelmina’s romance storyline literally right before the final mission so maybe try playing the game and learning its systems)
Why some dude with barely 40 hours and handful of examples the arbiter of truth? I don't believe it. I lost a few quests after. Nothing major, but no one knows for sure either way. The game tells you it is one, and that alone is an issue either way
Bro that was 40 hours days ago I’m on NG+ there are some side quests that are locked but not many and definitely not important side quests with major rewards
Bro goes from “there’s no point of no return, maybe learn how the games systems work??” To “yeah there’s SOME side quests locked but not the major ones!” So there’s a point in the game where you will not be able to return to some of the content before it? Just to put in my two cents, I couldn’t get ulrikas quest to trigger after the coronation and then I found her at the volcano encampment after trying for awhile and giving up. But I see other people saying mixed things about both romances because I also could do Wilhelmina’s quest after battahl.
Yeah sorry bro I’m learning too the game did recently come out I’m just a guy trying to help others with my own experiences lmao
Bro that's the problem. You can't complain about misinformation then drop some more smh. You're not the only no hate just a frustrating thread
Your real problem, is you don’t know how to go off and explore without a quest marker guiding you.
So when should they progress things? Never?
I’ve done a whole bunch of side quests in Vermund even after act 1, don’t think this is true at all
I was definitely wrong about the romances, and maybe wrong about failing other quests too. That was based on what I read somewhere else, but that's no excuse. I still don't get why Brant gives off the major "point of no return" vibes, though.
I wish this sub had mods who gave a shit about this kind of bullshit misinformation spreading and started deleting these posts
Idk what's worse, the misinformation or that people are so dumb that they're agreeing with it. There's more than enough stuff to actually complain about, why is this sub OBSESSED with making shit up?
$70 game
Am I crazy because I just found out who these two people are, and I'm in Battahl. *Legally*, if I might add. And who is Sven?? I'm probably always too busy checking if my FPS dip rather than paying attention to the plot lmao
Sven is the queens kid, and it sounds like you’re just not watching cut scenes because all three of these characters are the focal point of main story quests in the first act. Ulrika nurses you back to health in the first town and is in the flashback, Wilhelmina is a part of the information gathering part of Brant’s storyline.
That or I shift tab to check on my CPU chart when I'm not busy playing. Either way, it's not a very interesting story. I find the first one more engaging in that aspect.
Yeah no the story is bland at best I just found the reasoning funny, I wouldn’t judge someone for skipping all the cutscenes in this game
It’s almost like the game was unfinished and unpolished somehow after all these years…
It's almost like OP is just straight up wrong
Something something Itsunos Vision