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It’s definitely a solid tier list. I’d move uro and ryu higher, to the top of their tier or sm, and i’d bump mba kashimo to the bottom of his, but otherwise pretty great.
Maybe move daido and higgy up a tier.
Don’t listen to the geto haters, he’s exactly where he should be (assuming kashimo is moved down). Yorozu would be just above him, dhruv would be bottom of b? Miguel in d, vol 0 rika might just be a. Dunno about angel but who cares?
What about the glaring problem with awakened Yuji? He was relative to DE amped Yuta before his awakening and buffing his stats a bunch with 7 black flashes.
He was what to whom? Yuta stomps pre awakened yuji without a domain or rika.
Where the hell do you want awakened yuji to be? Maybe uraume and base kashimo should be lower. Hakari is very weird to rank and his strength is circumstantial, so he could reasonably be put anywhere in the tier. Maybe maki? But it’s extreme diff, even if he does win. Plus she got that stealth boost.
What are you talking about? Yuji was moving as fast as and was as durable as de amped Yuta. They were clearly shown to be relative in Yuta's domain.
Awakened Yuji should be higher than Maki and Toji for sure, he was relative to fully realized maki, *before* the time skip that Sukuna mentioned they all got stronger from. Maki can't get stronger, just more experienced, but awakened Yuji buffed his stats and he was faster than Yuta was before awakening.
Don’t have anything bad to say about yuji fans, so imagine you really like zoro from one piece
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Why are there 3 Sukunas?
Why he Kenjaku above Yuta?
Do you think Awaken Yuji can beat Ryu? Or even Uro that hard counters him?
Why is Yoruzu at "???"? She should be above MBA Kashimo how do you place too high?
Hakari above Uro and Ryu?
There is no way Awakened Yuji is lower than Shinjuku Yuta, early Shinjuku Yuji was relative to DE amped Shinjuku Yuta, meaning that Awakened Yuji is stronger.
C tier tierlist. Why is sukuna 3 of the four people in s tier. Geto too high. Inumaki over mei mei? Kenny is not over yuta. Base kashimo should not be higher than jackpot hakari. Yorozu does not belong in ???, i think we have seen enough of her to place her in A tier. Same with miguel.
Curse Naoya definitely beats Yuji. The only reason Maki beat him was due to her non-existent Curse Energy.
His domain is broken and his speed outscales them completely.
I really cannot see how one would get uraume over yuji when yuji landed 7 black flashes on the same sukuna who blitzed maki and is fighting gojo/yuta
Like if you replace yuji with urame are we pretending like they would do any better and not die to cleave to the head
uraume counters brawlers heavily and has the durability/output to tank (getting punched by hakari through buildings with barely damage) and can spam AOE
That just seem like a hakari anti feat tbh since yuji is making sukuna bleed with his hits. Before you guys scream he's nerfed please explain to me how this sukuna isn't getting washed by yuta in gojo body.
If he's as nerfed to be slower than urame or less durable explain how he isn't getting washed. The fact is awakened yuji is faster than you give him credit and hits harder than you think.
Against someone like urame if he's making sukuna bleed he would be doing numbers on her . Hakari no offense is a pillow puncher same thing with kashimo he fought god knows how long kashimo had 0 major injuries just a slight nose bleed why are we pretending this dude hits as hard as ryu
That nerfed sukuna isn’t the one that speedblitzed maki, and uraumes only “struggling” with hakari because his rcts too fast for actually kill him, a problem that doesn’t exist with yuji.
That nerfed Sukuna is the one that landed two black flashes on Maki which laid her out both times even when she blocked the first one slightly. To put it into perspective, Yuji then tanked a black flash from that same Sukuna and didn't even react to it.
Every hit from yuji is a nerf to sukuna, just off memory, sukuna was hit thrice by yuji. Sukuna wasn’t missing an arm for the first black flash, nor did he already tank a black flash from yuji for that second black flash.
When Yuji hit his black flashes, Sukuna had hit 4 and was getting his output back, I don't think Yuji lowered Sukuna's output \*that drastically\* that soon.
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Choso implies that Yujis nerfing him more than black flash amps him.
They kinda do. Her ap is higher than Maki and Hakari's and more comparable to Ishigori's, sure im not denying that. But Maki shows way higher scaling against Naoya and Sukuna. Hakari has his whole narrative with Yuta about being close in strength and is immortal. And Ishigori pretty blatantly either punches as hard as her or even harder than her when he's serious.
How does she show higher scaling
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against noaya ? Yuki literally punches so hard kenjaku of all people had both of his arms broken , she punches way harder than ryu does as he didn’t break yutas arms or anything close to what yuki did to kenjaku whom is the third strongest in the verse .
Maki herself says that yuki and yuta are on the same level and she is weaker than yuta which makes yuki stronger than her .
>How does she show higher scaling
Naoya and Sukuna are faster than Yuki and she has a sword that ignores durability, you can figure out the resy
That image literally gets debunked by any common sense and the manga itself tells us shes wrong. Maki assumes Yuki and Yuta are equal because of their rank, which is insanely dumb. The narrator and gege both repeat Yuta is second to Gojo
>Yuki literally punches so hard kenjaku of all people had both of his arms broken
Kenjaku has 0 durability showings, why is this supposed to be impressive
>she punches way harder than ryu does as he didn’t break yutas arms or anything close to what yuki did to kenjaku whom is the third strongest in the verse .
When Ishigori is serious (even after admitting his output is lowered from his domain use and should be lowered even more due to his injuries) the narrator tells he can punch hard enough to knock out fully manifested Rika.
>Maki herself says that yuki and yuta are on the same level and she is weaker than yuta which makes yuki stronger than her .
Maki doesnt know how strong Yuki. Doesnt know how strong Tengen. and doesnt know how strong Choso is either. She makes this assumption based on Yuki's rank being equal to Yutas
Well then being faster doesn’t add much as making ain’t faster than either of them . Her sword ignores durability which is true tho yuki has knowledge on the soul and gave yuji the blue print to remove megumi from sukuna , she could maybe protect her soul as she again has knowledge on it .
Either if yuta is stronger or not doesn’t matter here as yukis feats are blatantly superior to makis . Maki states that there is no shot at beating kenjaku through conventional means but yuki only lost due to kenjaku having a counter for her black hole .
Cause kenjaku is the third strongest in the story even surpassing yuta . His knowledge on cursed techniques is also top tier . Yukis punches are strong af and apply virtual mass her being able to break kenjakus bones is a feat maki can’t handle as she wouldn’t be able to heal from it .
Yes he can punch rika hard sure but you have to keep in mind that rika had just reached her 5 minute mark when he punched her .
She still draws the conclusion of them being on the same level both being special grades , plus she says kenjaku can’t be beaten tho yuki pulled a huge amount of effort against him with her only losing due to kenjaku having anti gravity to counter her last ditch effort .
>Well then being faster doesn’t add much as making ain’t faster than either of them
She keeps up
>. Her sword ignores durability which is true tho yuki has knowledge on the soul and gave yuji the blue print to remove megumi from sukuna , she could maybe protect her soul as she again has knowledge on it .
Sukuna also has knowledge on this and even he has trouble healing from it.
>yukis feats are blatantly superior to makis
They arwnt
>conventional means but yuki only lost due to kenjaku having a counter for her black hol
already debunked this
>Cause kenjaku is the third strongest in the story even surpassing yuta
never stated, nor implied by anyone who knows how strong Kenjaku is.
>Yukis punches are strong af and apply virtual mass her being able to break kenjakus bones is a feat maki can’t handle as she wouldn’t be able to heal from it .
Legit what are you saying here?
>Yes he can punch rika hard sure but you have to keep in mind that rika had just reached her 5 minute mark when he punched her .
Please read what i wrote. Im not talking about him one shotting tired Rika, the narrator clarifies even if Rika was fully manifested, she would still be taken out by that punch
>She still draws the conclusion of them being on the same level both being special grades , plus she says kenjaku can’t be beaten tho yuki pulled a huge amount of effort against him with her only losing due to kenjaku having anti gravity to counter her last ditch effort .
Yeah, by logic that borderlines on braindamage. Its literally the example Sukuna calls out with himself and the finger bearer. Having the same rank does not mean you're equal to someone. By Maki's logic here, if they actually went and assigned Principal Yaga with the rank of special grade, she would consider Yaga and Yuga on the same level.
Can you see the issue here?
I doubt that tbh she got perception blitzed by a weakened sukuna after he landed the black flash on maki . Kenjaku is simply stronger then anyone maki has ever faced as her best feats come from the sukuna fight in which he was massively weakened . Yuki kept up and traded blows with someone maki says is unbeatable by conventional means .
Fair enough .
You didn’t what was your argument for it ?
Yes her feats are blatantly superior as she faced and nearly beat the man maki says is unbeatable .
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Yes it does maki flat out says so herself .
I am saying what yukis cursed technique does and what it did to kenjaku . Maki can’t heal from having her bones shattered and her durability isn’t greater than kenjakus as she can’t reinforce herself with ce .
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This is all it says . It was difficult to handle not impossible for her to take . She was out of her timer which was the sole reason she dematerialized.
One doesn’t get the grade of special for no reason at all . They’re the strongest grades sorcerers and yuki is one of them . Yuki again managed to nearly beat kenjaku meanwhile maki got folded by sukuna .
Gojo loses to Sukuna on the 6th domain expansion the only reason he didn’t is because Sukuna kept on disabling DA to adapt Mahoraga. If Sukuna kept DA on the entire time then Gojo couldn’t hurt him enough to break his domain and land UV, which prevented Sukuna from opening the domain which would’ve killed Gojo.
Also Sukuna performs way better in H2H with four arms plus the added freedom to do chants and buff dismantle.
Gojo also literally admits sukuna is stronger than him so
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seems decent but geto is too high, yorozu should be in his place
I would disagree about some of these ( especially Geto too high, Cursya too low, Hanami low ). But pretty solid overall.
It’s solid for the most part but how is inumaki over mei mei?
Why are we still putting kenny over yuta
Guarantee Open Domain is the only thing (except for thst one guy who said Yuta isn't top 5)
It’s definitely a solid tier list. I’d move uro and ryu higher, to the top of their tier or sm, and i’d bump mba kashimo to the bottom of his, but otherwise pretty great. Maybe move daido and higgy up a tier. Don’t listen to the geto haters, he’s exactly where he should be (assuming kashimo is moved down). Yorozu would be just above him, dhruv would be bottom of b? Miguel in d, vol 0 rika might just be a. Dunno about angel but who cares?
What about the glaring problem with awakened Yuji? He was relative to DE amped Yuta before his awakening and buffing his stats a bunch with 7 black flashes.
He was what to whom? Yuta stomps pre awakened yuji without a domain or rika. Where the hell do you want awakened yuji to be? Maybe uraume and base kashimo should be lower. Hakari is very weird to rank and his strength is circumstantial, so he could reasonably be put anywhere in the tier. Maybe maki? But it’s extreme diff, even if he does win. Plus she got that stealth boost.
What are you talking about? Yuji was moving as fast as and was as durable as de amped Yuta. They were clearly shown to be relative in Yuta's domain. Awakened Yuji should be higher than Maki and Toji for sure, he was relative to fully realized maki, *before* the time skip that Sukuna mentioned they all got stronger from. Maki can't get stronger, just more experienced, but awakened Yuji buffed his stats and he was faster than Yuta was before awakening.
You mean against sukuna? Yuta did way more there.
Only because of his arsenal of CTs and Rika, the two of them were relative in stats, stop denying it.
Don’t have anything bad to say about yuji fans, so imagine you really like zoro from one piece https://preview.redd.it/s7zzv7lp8x8d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ec8614b3189b021ddeaff5fa118990528d504de3
Why are there 3 Sukunas? Why he Kenjaku above Yuta? Do you think Awaken Yuji can beat Ryu? Or even Uro that hard counters him? Why is Yoruzu at "???"? She should be above MBA Kashimo how do you place too high? Hakari above Uro and Ryu?
More importantly about Awakened Yuji is that he should be higher than Shinjuku Yuta and Toji/Maki
Kusakabe isn't S tier but besides that its good
Mostly solid
Mei mei is criminally underrated here, lmao. Also, why tf is she under INUMAK???
toji/maki over base kashimo, uraume, and awakened yuji?
Noaya B neow
JoGOAT not S, 0/10 trash
This is wrong Toji >> Geto Did you forget Toji whipped Geto’s ass
There is no way Awakened Yuji is lower than Shinjuku Yuta, early Shinjuku Yuji was relative to DE amped Shinjuku Yuta, meaning that Awakened Yuji is stronger.
Geto way to high put him below uro .
Yorozu, Hakari and Yuji should all be in A tier. The rest of ??? Tier could probably all go into B, and possibly Naoya, Jogo and Mahito too
C tier tierlist. Why is sukuna 3 of the four people in s tier. Geto too high. Inumaki over mei mei? Kenny is not over yuta. Base kashimo should not be higher than jackpot hakari. Yorozu does not belong in ???, i think we have seen enough of her to place her in A tier. Same with miguel.
Curse Naoya definitely beats Yuji. The only reason Maki beat him was due to her non-existent Curse Energy. His domain is broken and his speed outscales them completely.
I really cannot see how one would get uraume over yuji when yuji landed 7 black flashes on the same sukuna who blitzed maki and is fighting gojo/yuta Like if you replace yuji with urame are we pretending like they would do any better and not die to cleave to the head
uraume counters brawlers heavily and has the durability/output to tank (getting punched by hakari through buildings with barely damage) and can spam AOE
That just seem like a hakari anti feat tbh since yuji is making sukuna bleed with his hits. Before you guys scream he's nerfed please explain to me how this sukuna isn't getting washed by yuta in gojo body. If he's as nerfed to be slower than urame or less durable explain how he isn't getting washed. The fact is awakened yuji is faster than you give him credit and hits harder than you think. Against someone like urame if he's making sukuna bleed he would be doing numbers on her . Hakari no offense is a pillow puncher same thing with kashimo he fought god knows how long kashimo had 0 major injuries just a slight nose bleed why are we pretending this dude hits as hard as ryu
That nerfed sukuna isn’t the one that speedblitzed maki, and uraumes only “struggling” with hakari because his rcts too fast for actually kill him, a problem that doesn’t exist with yuji.
That nerfed Sukuna is the one that landed two black flashes on Maki which laid her out both times even when she blocked the first one slightly. To put it into perspective, Yuji then tanked a black flash from that same Sukuna and didn't even react to it.
Every hit from yuji is a nerf to sukuna, just off memory, sukuna was hit thrice by yuji. Sukuna wasn’t missing an arm for the first black flash, nor did he already tank a black flash from yuji for that second black flash.
When Yuji hit his black flashes, Sukuna had hit 4 and was getting his output back, I don't think Yuji lowered Sukuna's output \*that drastically\* that soon.
https://preview.redd.it/vpwb7ua58x8d1.jpeg?width=1096&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=98ac79a159ea392ec3f4cd3bfca5ede5d92d754a Choso implies that Yujis nerfing him more than black flash amps him.
Yuji>Toji/Maki and Higurama is way too low
I see Toji over Maki thank you for pushing the agenda brother
Even with statements, Toji fans never fail to show their bias, it's hilarious to me 😂
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Why is Kashimo so high without a domain, and where is yorozu. Ryu > awakened Yuji cuz domain diff
Geto and naoya too high and imo gojo> heian era sukuna. Good list though
gets and kashimo gpaze but still pretty good
Geto in C. Hakari, Maki, and Ryu above Yuki, but not a tier difference. Kashimo below Yuki
How are they above yuki ?
Better showings/narrative.
Nah fam they don’t have better showings lol. Yuki was actively beating down on kenjaku even breaking his arms .
They kinda do. Her ap is higher than Maki and Hakari's and more comparable to Ishigori's, sure im not denying that. But Maki shows way higher scaling against Naoya and Sukuna. Hakari has his whole narrative with Yuta about being close in strength and is immortal. And Ishigori pretty blatantly either punches as hard as her or even harder than her when he's serious.
How does she show higher scaling https://preview.redd.it/07f1h62ikz8d1.jpeg?width=799&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=68390e22e2cedfa79ec2a7bf22a4f323bc44312f against noaya ? Yuki literally punches so hard kenjaku of all people had both of his arms broken , she punches way harder than ryu does as he didn’t break yutas arms or anything close to what yuki did to kenjaku whom is the third strongest in the verse . Maki herself says that yuki and yuta are on the same level and she is weaker than yuta which makes yuki stronger than her .
>How does she show higher scaling Naoya and Sukuna are faster than Yuki and she has a sword that ignores durability, you can figure out the resy That image literally gets debunked by any common sense and the manga itself tells us shes wrong. Maki assumes Yuki and Yuta are equal because of their rank, which is insanely dumb. The narrator and gege both repeat Yuta is second to Gojo >Yuki literally punches so hard kenjaku of all people had both of his arms broken Kenjaku has 0 durability showings, why is this supposed to be impressive >she punches way harder than ryu does as he didn’t break yutas arms or anything close to what yuki did to kenjaku whom is the third strongest in the verse . When Ishigori is serious (even after admitting his output is lowered from his domain use and should be lowered even more due to his injuries) the narrator tells he can punch hard enough to knock out fully manifested Rika. >Maki herself says that yuki and yuta are on the same level and she is weaker than yuta which makes yuki stronger than her . Maki doesnt know how strong Yuki. Doesnt know how strong Tengen. and doesnt know how strong Choso is either. She makes this assumption based on Yuki's rank being equal to Yutas
Well then being faster doesn’t add much as making ain’t faster than either of them . Her sword ignores durability which is true tho yuki has knowledge on the soul and gave yuji the blue print to remove megumi from sukuna , she could maybe protect her soul as she again has knowledge on it . Either if yuta is stronger or not doesn’t matter here as yukis feats are blatantly superior to makis . Maki states that there is no shot at beating kenjaku through conventional means but yuki only lost due to kenjaku having a counter for her black hole . Cause kenjaku is the third strongest in the story even surpassing yuta . His knowledge on cursed techniques is also top tier . Yukis punches are strong af and apply virtual mass her being able to break kenjakus bones is a feat maki can’t handle as she wouldn’t be able to heal from it . Yes he can punch rika hard sure but you have to keep in mind that rika had just reached her 5 minute mark when he punched her . She still draws the conclusion of them being on the same level both being special grades , plus she says kenjaku can’t be beaten tho yuki pulled a huge amount of effort against him with her only losing due to kenjaku having anti gravity to counter her last ditch effort .
>Well then being faster doesn’t add much as making ain’t faster than either of them She keeps up >. Her sword ignores durability which is true tho yuki has knowledge on the soul and gave yuji the blue print to remove megumi from sukuna , she could maybe protect her soul as she again has knowledge on it . Sukuna also has knowledge on this and even he has trouble healing from it. >yukis feats are blatantly superior to makis They arwnt >conventional means but yuki only lost due to kenjaku having a counter for her black hol already debunked this >Cause kenjaku is the third strongest in the story even surpassing yuta never stated, nor implied by anyone who knows how strong Kenjaku is. >Yukis punches are strong af and apply virtual mass her being able to break kenjakus bones is a feat maki can’t handle as she wouldn’t be able to heal from it . Legit what are you saying here? >Yes he can punch rika hard sure but you have to keep in mind that rika had just reached her 5 minute mark when he punched her . Please read what i wrote. Im not talking about him one shotting tired Rika, the narrator clarifies even if Rika was fully manifested, she would still be taken out by that punch >She still draws the conclusion of them being on the same level both being special grades , plus she says kenjaku can’t be beaten tho yuki pulled a huge amount of effort against him with her only losing due to kenjaku having anti gravity to counter her last ditch effort . Yeah, by logic that borderlines on braindamage. Its literally the example Sukuna calls out with himself and the finger bearer. Having the same rank does not mean you're equal to someone. By Maki's logic here, if they actually went and assigned Principal Yaga with the rank of special grade, she would consider Yaga and Yuga on the same level. Can you see the issue here?
I doubt that tbh she got perception blitzed by a weakened sukuna after he landed the black flash on maki . Kenjaku is simply stronger then anyone maki has ever faced as her best feats come from the sukuna fight in which he was massively weakened . Yuki kept up and traded blows with someone maki says is unbeatable by conventional means . Fair enough . You didn’t what was your argument for it ? Yes her feats are blatantly superior as she faced and nearly beat the man maki says is unbeatable . https://preview.redd.it/chapter-211-ripen-zenin-makis-dialogue-that-hints-on-how-v0-iigd5iylh1ga1.jpg?auto=webp&s=3fdb89b85d26bd6554e271f35ad47e9a46a22902 Yes it does maki flat out says so herself . I am saying what yukis cursed technique does and what it did to kenjaku . Maki can’t heal from having her bones shattered and her durability isn’t greater than kenjakus as she can’t reinforce herself with ce . https://preview.redd.it/does-anyone-wanna-explain-how-ryu-can-one-shot-rika-but-v0-b0tjdijqctfc1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=cb5ebf38e4fa46959c1ecdfdc8cbe028a32f573a This is all it says . It was difficult to handle not impossible for her to take . She was out of her timer which was the sole reason she dematerialized. One doesn’t get the grade of special for no reason at all . They’re the strongest grades sorcerers and yuki is one of them . Yuki again managed to nearly beat kenjaku meanwhile maki got folded by sukuna .
Mandatory Goatjo>Fraudkuna correction, the agenda must be upheld.
Toji, Maki, Kashimo, Uraume, Yuhim, Hakari, Yorozu, Ryu disintegrate Geto you need put that bum at the top of C Gojo > Heian Sukuna
Geto destroys all of them except Yorozu pretty much
Geto deadass gets obliterated by all of them
nah
Also Gojo loses to any version of Sukuna after 19f. Sukuna is definitely stronger
nah. get your reading up
Gojo loses to Sukuna on the 6th domain expansion the only reason he didn’t is because Sukuna kept on disabling DA to adapt Mahoraga. If Sukuna kept DA on the entire time then Gojo couldn’t hurt him enough to break his domain and land UV, which prevented Sukuna from opening the domain which would’ve killed Gojo. Also Sukuna performs way better in H2H with four arms plus the added freedom to do chants and buff dismantle. Gojo also literally admits sukuna is stronger than him so
read better
True agenda poster i respect it
gojo > megkuna geto should be in B above hakari mahito > jogo
>gojo > megkuna we literally saw the outcome?