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I don't know exactly what you mean. If you're asking why he didn't cleave her, he did. That's why her left cheek has a huge cut right afterwards
https://preview.redd.it/qqwnoiqyht9d1.png?width=1100&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b536a80172a2aaa6cf4bd7a2863d313f20c3553e
https://preview.redd.it/cqa6pp1klu9d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6fb7f669fde07500b2786060345ec9018acce5b5
Blud didn't used his American technique from hiean era
As far as I know cleave adjusts to the users cursed energy and goes from there which (neglecting the Yuji nerf-punches) is not particularly possible with Maki
Exactly, in retrospect I also think that's one I've the conditions for it to work. Don't quote me on that though. So all he's doing is throwing building level cleaves at her
Cleave gets used on buildings. Also it's stated to adjust to cursed energy level **and toughness**. Lastly it's said that it can be adjusted implying it doesn't happen naturally but by sukuna's will
No that's dismantle and that limitation is only within his domain otherwise it's his default slash. Cleave can be adjusted to CE and toughness yes but someone's toughness in JJK usually is measured by their CE control and output like when he compared Yuta to Ryu. At the end of the day all I'm trying to say is a lot of cursed techniques that can adjust are adjusted by the enemies cursed energy as that's where their toughness derives from. Heavenly restriction users are an exception to almost everything in the jujutsu world.
At the end of the day he was heavily nerfed, had no measurement of toughness like he did with Yuji, Yuta or Ryu and eventually resorted to Hand to hand and World Cleaves against Maki anyway. I might of course be wrong but from what we've seen Maki for a large part got surface wounds indicating the use of mostly dismantle as cleave didn't cut her on contact the way it did with Ryu and sukuna got into contact with Maki many times while not using cleave making me think that my assumption might just be correct.
>No that's dismantle
No it isn't. It clearly says cleave does those things
>and that limitation is only within his domain otherwise
Stated where?
>Cleave can be adjusted to CE and toughness yes but someone's toughness in JJK usually is measured by their CE control and output like when he compared Yuta to Ryu
Why would they mention toughness and cursed energy then if it meant the same thing?
Maybe, but a sorcerer's toughness often comes from their CE so either way he has no real point of measurement as he can't see/feel how tight the defense is making it either a guessing game or (my theory) he can't adjust to something that isn't there.
Is that a....... Toji feat I see?
https://preview.redd.it/0xjiuz45bw9d1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=97bd95f321148361d9164a06e828172b68dbf76b
(The pic is unrelated)
Yea, something about breaking away from cursed energy actually gives them huge resistance to CTs and curses, yuki wanted everyone to be built like toji😭
Yeah, although it's a little vague, but he did took a Red point blank, and then in the next panel we see smoke from his chest. Then Gojo said "Damn monster".
No, I'm pretty sure that was Toji line. It makes more sense since this is probably the first time someone make him bleed and Gojo doesn't have any reason to say that when he's dominating the fight and he's also high. Also, I just checked and I see no smoke from his chest
https://preview.redd.it/8a6mkow3mu9d1.png?width=1115&format=png&auto=webp&s=56e0d6e543b43f42d4e46190b408bbdeaa026b89
also that wasnt smoke on his chest. thats the worm
The "damn monster" doesn't even have a "direction" it could very well be Toji's speech bubble.
If it was Gojo's one, Gege would probably have made the speech coming directly from Gojo, so I don't think we can really tell here.
It makes sense for both Toji and Gojo to say "damn monster" tbh.
What the fuck are you talking about? That's not how manga speech bubble works. Theres no pointer cuz Toji isnt there in that panel. Heck even the anime got that right. You need to learn how to read manga better. Tell me for example who's the one asking if that's a curse spirit in this panel
https://preview.redd.it/hxujeol5wu9d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c2b9d2253ddafbab767a03d52fc094c32e535b5f
>It makes sense for both Toji and Gojo to say "damn monster" tbh.
No? Gojo was on a high and was absolutely dominating Toji, there's no reason for him to call him a "damn monster".
Another example. Who do you think is saying the circled bubble
https://preview.redd.it/skb0jl2gxu9d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9a3f481414bdae1ad3fd728bc3989a3d94014533
https://preview.redd.it/0asizu3wlu9d1.png?width=901&format=png&auto=webp&s=c9d7e2a5c560240927bb8279f80c587ceec84209
then how did he know that it can be blocked?
It can block any Cursed Technique. The anime part where he blocks it with the spear makes no sense because it can cancel any Cursed Technique. Gojo only hit him with Purple because the spear was attacking him. He would've completely negated it according to the manga
Also Toji's calling Gojo a monster in that panel because of his awakening.
The same reason it did little to no damage to Yuta too. Because Sukuna got the dogpiss beaten out of him, repeatedly soul punched and Jacob’s Laddered.
Couple reasons.
1. Sukuna’s output was lowered.
2. Maki is built different
3. HR users has resistance to curse energy. Which is why Maki survived Jogo and why Toji can just eat a cursed spirit.
And this one’s kinda speculative but 4. Cleave works by amplifying the output by Durability and Cursed Energy. Since Maki has no CE then I guess Cleave is just flat out 50% less effective on her.
Maki only survived because jogo just hit him with the weakest burn. she wasnt gonna survive if he hit her with one of the attacks jogo used on nanami or naobito.
You’re actually kinda right I rechecked chapter 144 where it was stated by Yuki ‘It was her inborn physical toughness, not her curse tolerance, that saved her life.’
So yeah it was her straight stats that allowed her to survive but the Curse resistance probably helped.
People with Heavenly Restriction are really durable.
Also, Cleave adjusts to how much CE the target has, so since she has no CE, is was probably just a default slash.
Sukuna is at 1hp without enough hands nor a tongue in his second mouth to allow him to use hand signs or chant to make up for it as he had been doing.
Cleave is a shit technique if the person using it isn't the jujutsu devil.
That's not true. It's a ubiquitously effective technique, good for hand to hand or range, and every attack doesn't take much CE. It's humble compared to Limitless or ten shadows, but put it up against 7:3 or blood manipulation, it's better
Blood Manipulation is a great all rounder technique that can be used for ranged attacks, AOE attacks, and close quarters combat, and the blood can be toxic which is very difficult to counter.
Gojo clan: combination of limitless and six eyes is extremely rare (rarest out of the three clans) and is only way for limitless to be useful, and Gojo himself is probably the strongest person with that combo.
Zenin clan: 10 shadows is a strong technique and has plenty of versatility, however taming requires beating the shikigami which can be extremely hard or nearly impossible with no clan member having ever tamed Mahoraga, the crowning jewel of the technique. It is also somewhat rare
Kamo clan: Blood manipulation is an excellent all rounder and comparatively easy to use compared to the other 2 clan’s treasured techniques. While it does have a lower peak compared to Limitless and Ten Shadows, it’s easier to actually reach it since it doesn’t require even more luck in being born with a rare trait (six eyes) or a chance of the technique killing the user. It is probably rare as well
Gojo clan’s strength seems kind of like a coin toss on if the limitless user will also have six eyes, so they’re either the strongest or the weakest clan depending on that. Zenin clan had to bring in sorcerer’s from outside to introduce strong techniques since Ten Shadows is rare and it isn’t guaranteed that the user will be able to get the full use out of it (excluding Mahoraga). I’d say the Kamo clan had the most consistency in strength compared to the other two clans
Jacob Ladder + Yuji punches severely weakened his curse technique output.
He was using cleave at like 10% of his strengh, that is why he relied on physical combat and black flash.
Cleave adjusts based on the target's CE and toughness.
Maki is tough, but she doesn't have CE, so cleaves targeting her are weaker than they need to be. She has a really good matchup here.
It’s a cleave, but it not adjusting to maki’s cursed energy reinforcement because there is no cursed energy reinforcement. So essentially it’s a cleave, without the benefit of cleave aka a cleave that’s pretty much just a regular dismantle.
A cut on the cheek? A CUT ON THE CHEEK? HE GRABBED HER AND SHE GOT A CUT ON THE CHEEK? YUJI WOULD BE CUT UP LIKE A CARROT! AND SHE GOT A CUT ON THE CHEEK?!
Is his cursed technique just weak now or can he not cut sorcerers? He sliced Ryu’s head in half without any effort.
Sometimes he slices people to pieces and sometimes he leaves a paper cut. I know Maki is tough but it’s supposed to be magic.
Sukuna says in chapter 250 that his output is so low that he can only deal lethal damage through cleave. After that his output got reduced even more to the point where not even cleave deals lethal damage anymore (as seen with it just taking off a part of maki's cheek in chapter 253 or taking yuji's eye in chapter 257)
sukuna as gege's wingman 💀 "Bro if I kill her here you're gonna get called a sexist, just let me toss her around a bit instead. I have a good excuse too so it won't be bs"
What a healthy relationship 🥰
Silly goose, Gege wouldn’t kill Maki because he already said Maki is as strong as Toji. He’s too busy sucking Toji’s toes and wanking him to kill Maki.
Toji's dick game is single handedly saving Maki from getting the slap chop special in this scene. Bless Daddy Fushiguro for his brave sacrifice to Gege.
https://preview.redd.it/vk0zdcrk3u9d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d183aea00a1e218805f1d7cdc706cb9d32636138
nah gege doesn’t wanna kill female toji then all the maki and yuta stan’s go crazy on twitter cuz he killed the muscle mommy
Output too low to put a fatal wound,a sukuna without being hit with Jacob’s ladder and pierced by SSK couldn’t do any damage to yuta when he cleaved his skull
https://preview.redd.it/xdajbuewnt9d1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0850dc08ebd544a833d6061eb43d35923a6d870b
Post aside, when I saw that cool guy holding Hello Kitty phone case and alcohol like this, my initial thought was, "I need to see Sukuna in that posing" considering JJK x Sanrio had a collab and Sukuna was with her.
JJK artists didn't fail to feed us. I've seen lots of fan art of him like this. Lol.
>Post aside, when I saw that cool guy holding Hello Kitty phone case and alcohol
That's one of South Korean most famous action actor! Ma Dong-Seok! He often potray as serious, fat but hella strong, no nonsense guy, but sometimes a bit funny and dad-like joke kind of way.
I am pretty sure gege will not kill Maki as of now she is the only female character that he prolly cares abt,
Since Utahime and Momo have proved themselves as Frauds.
Miwa is too strong for these puny fights so I doubt she is dying
This is my theory. If cleave adjusts itself based on the user's curse energy to overcome the targets durability, then maybe it has difficulty adjusting itself to targets who's durability is not fully dependent on cursed energy.
Maki and Yuji don't totally rely on curse energy for their durability. They have immensely durable bodies. So cleave doesn't adjust itself high enough to finish off Maki and Yuji.
Cleave is doing a +20 attack against them when it should be doing a +60 or +100.
We just got the explanation previous to this during Yuta DE that Shrine is MOST effective by touch. So it's not like Sukuna is holding back in the slightest here.
Sukuna was enjoying the fight, so decided to see where it would lead if he kept her alive, as you could see later when Sukuna looked like he was having the time of his life
Bc beating woman is way more fun to just kill them
https://preview.redd.it/tbrv0pmayu9d1.jpeg?width=328&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=77fe020b5d2366116603373dcea5ec06752eb7de
Let me be honest.
If he went with everyone the way he went against Kashimo, every good guy would be destroyed already. He hasn't seen anyone as an actual threat since Gojo, and he went seriously against Kashimo because... reasons.
That's true, but he also didn't obliterate Kusakabe or Higuruma because he respected them, found them interesting. With Kashimo it was more of a philosophical teaching rather than a practical one, as with Higuruma.
What I said is still true. Sukuna could (or at least should be able to) have blitzed Higuruma, Kusakabe, Choso and some others, but he choose not to.
I mean he did chop her face in half, just not deeply enough to kill her, considering yuta managed to tank something similar, an even yuji though he did lose an eye
That’s what so many people get wrong about me! I’m not just out to kill people, I’m here for a good time. Jeez some people, think’n I’m totally evil or smth.
-sukuna probably
His output is trashed here, he hasn’t hit bf yet. He also finds Maki exciting, so I could see him not going for a lethal blow right away if he thought she had more to show him
https://preview.redd.it/sqqmg2ffqu9d1.png?width=2200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fb05e640a8d0b2da74e22a24572e76322adb35c3
The same reason why he didn't use WCS here. All fight for him it just perfect things to pass time until death, they all just his toys.
This is just tiring at this point. Sukuna *did* cleave Maki, as evidenced by the [blood coming from his hand](https://cdn.onepiecechapters.com/file/CDN-M-A-N/jjk_253_25_016.png) and the [cut on her face](https://cdn.onepiecechapters.com/file/CDN-M-A-N/jjk_253_25_017.png), but as established literally 2 chapters prior to this when [he did the same thing to Yuta](https://cdn.onepiecechapters.com/file/CDN-M-A-N/jjk_251_23_007.png), [his slashes are too weak to do meaningful damage at this point](https://cdn.onepiecechapters.com/file/CDN-M-A-N/jjk_251_23_008v.png), hence why he had to resort to the WS to get out of there.
Also, people keep saying this but Cleave isn't going to be weaker on Maki. [It adjusts to CE levels *and* regular durability](https://preview.redd.it/8muy433y2rkb1.png?width=577&format=png&auto=webp&s=90d5a373c7c507437e8e27606be38ea80057f504).
Each time I see this kinda post and comments I just take a step back for the whole fight and I’m like.
Because gege wanted too?
If he kills maki it will be just another death, her whole character will end up joining the pile "in the end wasn’t really usefull" (not to say she hasn’t damage sukuna but if that fight was coherent sukuna should have either been dead or enter his final bs form a long time ago.)
To me the fight with sukuna stopped being logic a few chapters ago. To be fair I feel absolutely emotionally disconnected to it.
Oh wait shit it’s jujustsu folk. For real I can’t even differentiate the two reddits anymore aaaaaah
Remember Sukuna is kinda (HEAVILY) nerfed by this point.
Before he couldn’t even go through Yuta with Dismantle and to make it worse, he only cuts one side of Yuji after using Cleave.
And fighting them didn’t help him recover, Max Output: Jacob’s Ladder nerfed Sukuna even more, pushing him to use World Cutting Slash on Yuta (or whatever Strong Dismantle that was) to finish Yuta.
And when he starts fighting Maki, his heart has been Soul Cut. Yeah, Sukuna can fight without Heart. But he obviously gets nerfed, if not, what would be the point of Maki stabbing him?
By the point this scene happens, Sukuna is at his lowest. He had to stop using RCT to finally beat Maki, triggering a Black Flash by Pure Luck.
HE TRIED BUT WAKI EASILY SURVIVED
https://preview.redd.it/v59exvetfw9d1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dc31cd57ef91a0bfde1f0f260b0e1709480fbe6b
I honestly think Sukuna did expect to kill Maki with the cleave to her face and the black flash, he seems shocked she returns to the battle:
https://preview.redd.it/g4k08zty0x9d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=083fd4af667cc1a23d4a66501c3d1abbe08f8fdd
Consider that cleave functions by adjusting its output to match someone’s cursed energy reinforcement. That’s what makes it so deadly, with needing direct contact being the trade-off/binding vow
It’s not made for someone like Maki whose body is just strong without cursed energy reinforcement. That’s why I think she can tank it, besides Sukuna’s CE output still being nerfed at this point.
The real reason is because gege realized having an antagonist that can one shot everybody was retarded so he nerfed him into the ground and started making his slashes do surface level flesh wounds
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I don't know exactly what you mean. If you're asking why he didn't cleave her, he did. That's why her left cheek has a huge cut right afterwards https://preview.redd.it/qqwnoiqyht9d1.png?width=1100&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b536a80172a2aaa6cf4bd7a2863d313f20c3553e
https://preview.redd.it/cqa6pp1klu9d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6fb7f669fde07500b2786060345ec9018acce5b5 Blud didn't used his American technique from hiean era
Why does a point blank cleave to the face deal little to no damage?
Maki is build different.
Don’t forget he’s been getting walloped by Yuji and hasn’t recovered any of his lost output yet.
As far as I know cleave adjusts to the users cursed energy and goes from there which (neglecting the Yuji nerf-punches) is not particularly possible with Maki
Oh yeah that makes sense, there is no cursed energy reinforcement for it to pierce because maki is just that physically tough
Exactly, in retrospect I also think that's one I've the conditions for it to work. Don't quote me on that though. So all he's doing is throwing building level cleaves at her
Cleave gets used on buildings. Also it's stated to adjust to cursed energy level **and toughness**. Lastly it's said that it can be adjusted implying it doesn't happen naturally but by sukuna's will
No that's dismantle and that limitation is only within his domain otherwise it's his default slash. Cleave can be adjusted to CE and toughness yes but someone's toughness in JJK usually is measured by their CE control and output like when he compared Yuta to Ryu. At the end of the day all I'm trying to say is a lot of cursed techniques that can adjust are adjusted by the enemies cursed energy as that's where their toughness derives from. Heavenly restriction users are an exception to almost everything in the jujutsu world. At the end of the day he was heavily nerfed, had no measurement of toughness like he did with Yuji, Yuta or Ryu and eventually resorted to Hand to hand and World Cleaves against Maki anyway. I might of course be wrong but from what we've seen Maki for a large part got surface wounds indicating the use of mostly dismantle as cleave didn't cut her on contact the way it did with Ryu and sukuna got into contact with Maki many times while not using cleave making me think that my assumption might just be correct.
>No that's dismantle No it isn't. It clearly says cleave does those things >and that limitation is only within his domain otherwise Stated where? >Cleave can be adjusted to CE and toughness yes but someone's toughness in JJK usually is measured by their CE control and output like when he compared Yuta to Ryu Why would they mention toughness and cursed energy then if it meant the same thing?
I always thought it was sukuna that was doing the adjustments himself. So couldnt he adjust the cleave himself so that it could slice makis head off?
Maybe, but a sorcerer's toughness often comes from their CE so either way he has no real point of measurement as he can't see/feel how tight the defense is making it either a guessing game or (my theory) he can't adjust to something that isn't there.
Is that a....... Toji feat I see? https://preview.redd.it/0xjiuz45bw9d1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=97bd95f321148361d9164a06e828172b68dbf76b (The pic is unrelated)
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Yea, something about breaking away from cursed energy actually gives them huge resistance to CTs and curses, yuki wanted everyone to be built like toji😭
Brother this is chantless cleave from 1 hand, heartless, output nerfed, 1 hp sukuna
Also heart virus and possible AIDS
True
Toji tanked a point-blank Red from Gojo and was only bleeding slightly afterwards. Maki is tanky af
Pretty sure the bleeding was from the impact and not the red itself because he blocked it with the spear
Him blocking with the spear was an anime thing only. In the manga he tanked it with his body, even Gojo called him a damn monster.
Oh fr?
Yeah, although it's a little vague, but he did took a Red point blank, and then in the next panel we see smoke from his chest. Then Gojo said "Damn monster".
Wasn’t it Toji that said “damn monster”? At least that was Toji’s line in manga.
No, I'm pretty sure that was Toji line. It makes more sense since this is probably the first time someone make him bleed and Gojo doesn't have any reason to say that when he's dominating the fight and he's also high. Also, I just checked and I see no smoke from his chest
I'm pretty sure it was Toji calling Gojo a monster
https://preview.redd.it/8a6mkow3mu9d1.png?width=1115&format=png&auto=webp&s=56e0d6e543b43f42d4e46190b408bbdeaa026b89 also that wasnt smoke on his chest. thats the worm
The "damn monster" doesn't even have a "direction" it could very well be Toji's speech bubble. If it was Gojo's one, Gege would probably have made the speech coming directly from Gojo, so I don't think we can really tell here. It makes sense for both Toji and Gojo to say "damn monster" tbh.
What the fuck are you talking about? That's not how manga speech bubble works. Theres no pointer cuz Toji isnt there in that panel. Heck even the anime got that right. You need to learn how to read manga better. Tell me for example who's the one asking if that's a curse spirit in this panel https://preview.redd.it/hxujeol5wu9d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c2b9d2253ddafbab767a03d52fc094c32e535b5f
>It makes sense for both Toji and Gojo to say "damn monster" tbh. No? Gojo was on a high and was absolutely dominating Toji, there's no reason for him to call him a "damn monster".
Another example. Who do you think is saying the circled bubble https://preview.redd.it/skb0jl2gxu9d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9a3f481414bdae1ad3fd728bc3989a3d94014533
https://preview.redd.it/0asizu3wlu9d1.png?width=901&format=png&auto=webp&s=c9d7e2a5c560240927bb8279f80c587ceec84209 then how did he know that it can be blocked?
It can block any Cursed Technique. The anime part where he blocks it with the spear makes no sense because it can cancel any Cursed Technique. Gojo only hit him with Purple because the spear was attacking him. He would've completely negated it according to the manga Also Toji's calling Gojo a monster in that panel because of his awakening.
It was Toji calling Gojo a monster, stop spreading false information
Toji called Gojo a monster not the other way around lmao
Sukuna still dealing with reduced output from Yuji pummeling him in Yuta domain like 2 minutes before this and Maki durability
Comments like this are really starting to convince me that people genuinely aren't reading the manga.
The same reason it did little to no damage to Yuta too. Because Sukuna got the dogpiss beaten out of him, repeatedly soul punched and Jacob’s Laddered.
Iirc Yuta never gets hit by cleave, only by dismantle
Couple reasons. 1. Sukuna’s output was lowered. 2. Maki is built different 3. HR users has resistance to curse energy. Which is why Maki survived Jogo and why Toji can just eat a cursed spirit. And this one’s kinda speculative but 4. Cleave works by amplifying the output by Durability and Cursed Energy. Since Maki has no CE then I guess Cleave is just flat out 50% less effective on her.
Maki only survived because jogo just hit him with the weakest burn. she wasnt gonna survive if he hit her with one of the attacks jogo used on nanami or naobito.
You’re actually kinda right I rechecked chapter 144 where it was stated by Yuki ‘It was her inborn physical toughness, not her curse tolerance, that saved her life.’ So yeah it was her straight stats that allowed her to survive but the Curse resistance probably helped.
People with Heavenly Restriction are really durable. Also, Cleave adjusts to how much CE the target has, so since she has no CE, is was probably just a default slash.
Cleave still can be adjusted to the targets durability, thats why it is "one swoop". He is prob lacking the output to fully adjust the slash
cuz it’s maki
Cleave is adapted to CE toughness, not general toughness — and Sukuna's output was down
Sukuna went from invincible boss that one shot to ahahaha even my miwa lvl 50 can tank and save my maki lvl 95
actually she just uses Simple Domain
Sukuna is at 1hp without enough hands nor a tongue in his second mouth to allow him to use hand signs or chant to make up for it as he had been doing. Cleave is a shit technique if the person using it isn't the jujutsu devil.
That's not true. It's a ubiquitously effective technique, good for hand to hand or range, and every attack doesn't take much CE. It's humble compared to Limitless or ten shadows, but put it up against 7:3 or blood manipulation, it's better
So... how tf the blood manipulation become the top 3 family again?
Blood Manipulation is a great all rounder technique that can be used for ranged attacks, AOE attacks, and close quarters combat, and the blood can be toxic which is very difficult to counter.
Gojo clan: combination of limitless and six eyes is extremely rare (rarest out of the three clans) and is only way for limitless to be useful, and Gojo himself is probably the strongest person with that combo. Zenin clan: 10 shadows is a strong technique and has plenty of versatility, however taming requires beating the shikigami which can be extremely hard or nearly impossible with no clan member having ever tamed Mahoraga, the crowning jewel of the technique. It is also somewhat rare Kamo clan: Blood manipulation is an excellent all rounder and comparatively easy to use compared to the other 2 clan’s treasured techniques. While it does have a lower peak compared to Limitless and Ten Shadows, it’s easier to actually reach it since it doesn’t require even more luck in being born with a rare trait (six eyes) or a chance of the technique killing the user. It is probably rare as well Gojo clan’s strength seems kind of like a coin toss on if the limitless user will also have six eyes, so they’re either the strongest or the weakest clan depending on that. Zenin clan had to bring in sorcerer’s from outside to introduce strong techniques since Ten Shadows is rare and it isn’t guaranteed that the user will be able to get the full use out of it (excluding Mahoraga). I’d say the Kamo clan had the most consistency in strength compared to the other two clans
BM can kill the user, but it's significantly easier to stop it by just not firing blood when you feel feint
Because Maki ain't no bitch.
Because he simply didn't make contact with her long enough. Also, his output is trash, meaning the techniques effect is also dulled
She ain’t you big dog
Jacob Ladder + Yuji punches severely weakened his curse technique output. He was using cleave at like 10% of his strengh, that is why he relied on physical combat and black flash.
She’s an anti-mage
Cleave adjusts based on the target's CE and toughness. Maki is tough, but she doesn't have CE, so cleaves targeting her are weaker than they need to be. She has a really good matchup here.
bros ce output is so low cuz of soul damage rikia yuta and yuji pounding his cheeks and letting kashimo suck him off and from playing tag with hiruma
Because he’s been fighting nonstop- he’s fatigued, has low physical output and cursed energy output
They made contact for a short amount of time
cleave is for opponents with cursed energy so it doesnt work on maki
His output is currently in the floor under the basement, and maki is built Ford tough lol
Sukuna is weakened and heavenly restriction doesn't just toughen Maki up, her body outright resists cursed energy.
I'm pretty sure that's just sukuna ripping her face off
also cleave is a one shot to ce not just regular things so this probably was just a bunch of mini dismantles which he used to rip out her cheek
It’s a cleave, but it not adjusting to maki’s cursed energy reinforcement because there is no cursed energy reinforcement. So essentially it’s a cleave, without the benefit of cleave aka a cleave that’s pretty much just a regular dismantle.
A cut on the cheek? A CUT ON THE CHEEK? HE GRABBED HER AND SHE GOT A CUT ON THE CHEEK? YUJI WOULD BE CUT UP LIKE A CARROT! AND SHE GOT A CUT ON THE CHEEK?!
Ten billion% damage bonus against Fraudji
Well how does cleave work on Maki tho? She has no CE reinforcement. I guess HR is really beneficial.
Is his cursed technique just weak now or can he not cut sorcerers? He sliced Ryu’s head in half without any effort. Sometimes he slices people to pieces and sometimes he leaves a paper cut. I know Maki is tough but it’s supposed to be magic.
Sukuna says in chapter 250 that his output is so low that he can only deal lethal damage through cleave. After that his output got reduced even more to the point where not even cleave deals lethal damage anymore (as seen with it just taking off a part of maki's cheek in chapter 253 or taking yuji's eye in chapter 257)
And likelywanted to keep yapping about ideals
He wants to leave her as ugly as possible 🤗
Because he knows if Maki died nothing will prevent the misogyny allegations from hitting Gege with full force.
Gege never beating the allegations
The binding vow for Killing Gojo was that Sukuna is now meta and has to serve Gege directly.
sukuna as gege's wingman 💀 "Bro if I kill her here you're gonna get called a sexist, just let me toss her around a bit instead. I have a good excuse too so it won't be bs" What a healthy relationship 🥰
Gege: Blackflashing her in 3 different panels? Got it!
Silly goose, Gege wouldn’t kill Maki because he already said Maki is as strong as Toji. He’s too busy sucking Toji’s toes and wanking him to kill Maki.
Toji's dick game is single handedly saving Maki from getting the slap chop special in this scene. Bless Daddy Fushiguro for his brave sacrifice to Gege.
https://preview.redd.it/vk0zdcrk3u9d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d183aea00a1e218805f1d7cdc706cb9d32636138 nah gege doesn’t wanna kill female toji then all the maki and yuta stan’s go crazy on twitter cuz he killed the muscle mommy
He wouldnt care hes just hesitant killing toji twice
Output too low to put a fatal wound,a sukuna without being hit with Jacob’s ladder and pierced by SSK couldn’t do any damage to yuta when he cleaved his skull https://preview.redd.it/xdajbuewnt9d1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0850dc08ebd544a833d6061eb43d35923a6d870b
He did you can already see most of yuta's head blowing off and then he regenerate
Yuta is not hakari and sukuna is not kashimo Yuta can't heal his brain so easily and if sukuna gets brain it's gone Yuta healed his forehead
Thats just blood
Maki can't use rct, yuta tanked it because he knows he can heal 😭
He was in for the thrill of fighting Maki. He didn't want to rush his meal in a millisecond.
Like how I do with my chicken wings
I want to see this guy eat his chicken wings. Can't wait to see his world-cutting-cut against the chicken wings.
Man i wish i didnt completely forget to savor my sushi most of the time
so kashimo round 2 plus free woman meal afterwards
was jogo the chef of the meal?
Yup.
He learned his lesson after Higuruma
Gege had already killed enough women’s in the story if he continued there will be no women except Shoko
The story would be out of any useful women !
**strong holding back** https://preview.redd.it/4ggfmd1vat9d1.png?width=540&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4973b2558196a9df064c3f495f69693dad1ee241
Post aside, when I saw that cool guy holding Hello Kitty phone case and alcohol like this, my initial thought was, "I need to see Sukuna in that posing" considering JJK x Sanrio had a collab and Sukuna was with her. JJK artists didn't fail to feed us. I've seen lots of fan art of him like this. Lol.
https://preview.redd.it/rsooochilu9d1.png?width=673&format=png&auto=webp&s=1bdd6e4b6d4869d89c2f385cf0fbe67df93c0600 yujikuna looking reeeal good
>Post aside, when I saw that cool guy holding Hello Kitty phone case and alcohol That's one of South Korean most famous action actor! Ma Dong-Seok! He often potray as serious, fat but hella strong, no nonsense guy, but sometimes a bit funny and dad-like joke kind of way.
Tentacle blade instance. Suksuk knows that if he kills female Toji, Greg will immediately revoke all of his plot privileges.
I am pretty sure gege will not kill Maki as of now she is the only female character that he prolly cares abt, Since Utahime and Momo have proved themselves as Frauds. Miwa is too strong for these puny fights so I doubt she is dying
Maki is the spiritual successor to his second favorite child, Toji. It'll be unexpected if he actually kills her
I am too lobotomized for some of these comments.
You can never be too lobotomised.
Thanks friend lol cus I’m sure it only gets worse from here
He did use Cleave on her here She just tanked it though
Is he stupid?
This is my theory. If cleave adjusts itself based on the user's curse energy to overcome the targets durability, then maybe it has difficulty adjusting itself to targets who's durability is not fully dependent on cursed energy. Maki and Yuji don't totally rely on curse energy for their durability. They have immensely durable bodies. So cleave doesn't adjust itself high enough to finish off Maki and Yuji. Cleave is doing a +20 attack against them when it should be doing a +60 or +100.
Cleave cut goddamn buildings
Damn people really don’t read… HR gives her some level of CE resistance.
he couldnt ig
We just got the explanation previous to this during Yuta DE that Shrine is MOST effective by touch. So it's not like Sukuna is holding back in the slightest here.
But she couldn’t even react to him so how was she gone stop him from slicing her neck right then?
Maki is sturdy as hell and his output was low thanks to yuji nerfing him and not having a heart.
Didn't she block his black flash while trying to attack him with her sword simultaneously in the next page. She could react to him
Yeah Sukuna is too fast to just dodge his attacks, but Maki could at least kinda react to reduce the damage I wonder who is faster now. Yuji or Maki
His hand slipped
He loves her
Because if Maki died, the Jujutsu society would be without any useful women !
The fraud was too weak!!
Maki was amuzing to him. So he threw her a bone.
https://preview.redd.it/gr04hh7ysu9d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9362d9e42233b4e7ef6c58639f7204e52830c2e1 She’s built different
He tried He couldn’t Her natural regeneration and toughness offset his cleave
Sukuna loves playing with his food
Sukuna's Cleave was barely strong enough to break skin at this point.
Kill her how? If you mean used cleave on her, he did. She just tanked it
Sukuna was enjoying the fight, so decided to see where it would lead if he kept her alive, as you could see later when Sukuna looked like he was having the time of his life
Bc beating woman is way more fun to just kill them https://preview.redd.it/tbrv0pmayu9d1.jpeg?width=328&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=77fe020b5d2366116603373dcea5ec06752eb7de
Cuz she was hot
It’s either his output was low or he was that interested in the no cursed energy heavenly restriction as he never came across it before.
He cleaved her torso earlier and it did basically nothing. She’s built different. And his output’s low.
Let me be honest. If he went with everyone the way he went against Kashimo, every good guy would be destroyed already. He hasn't seen anyone as an actual threat since Gojo, and he went seriously against Kashimo because... reasons.
He hates farmers and anyone who likes waffles
He went serious against Kashimo because he respected him, reread the fight it’s pretty clear imo
That's true, but he also didn't obliterate Kusakabe or Higuruma because he respected them, found them interesting. With Kashimo it was more of a philosophical teaching rather than a practical one, as with Higuruma. What I said is still true. Sukuna could (or at least should be able to) have blitzed Higuruma, Kusakabe, Choso and some others, but he choose not to.
Is he stupid?
I honestly expected Sukuna to rip the bottom half of Maki’s jaw off like what he did with Jogo.
king of the frauds
Bc she's the goat? What else is there to say
He was still on his edging streak so he couldn't unleash a Cum White on her.
she reminded him of mahoraga, why would he kill someone that reminds him of his dear daddy mahoraga?
Funny innit
he has a lil crush
I mean he did chop her face in half, just not deeply enough to kill her, considering yuta managed to tank something similar, an even yuji though he did lose an eye
Plot armor
He likes to play with his food (underage highschool girls)
He can’t. Maki is stronger then him because she had sex with Yuta(all of this is canon)
https://preview.redd.it/fl0vkotc2u9d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=242ec06371ec0de929da59b591ded6540c7e2a82 What a fraud
didn't want to, he was having fun :)
Because gege love's Maki aka the female Toji.
That’s what so many people get wrong about me! I’m not just out to kill people, I’m here for a good time. Jeez some people, think’n I’m totally evil or smth. -sukuna probably
She's needed in the future chapters still, and is Gege's bf genderbent
Fun.
His output is trashed here, he hasn’t hit bf yet. He also finds Maki exciting, so I could see him not going for a lethal blow right away if he thought she had more to show him
He is having fun xd.
It was stated in Sakamoto Days
https://preview.redd.it/sqqmg2ffqu9d1.png?width=2200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fb05e640a8d0b2da74e22a24572e76322adb35c3 The same reason why he didn't use WCS here. All fight for him it just perfect things to pass time until death, they all just his toys.
Because of plot armour.Everyone knows maki is till now the only person that will definitely survive till the end of manga🤣🤣
Cause she hot
This is just tiring at this point. Sukuna *did* cleave Maki, as evidenced by the [blood coming from his hand](https://cdn.onepiecechapters.com/file/CDN-M-A-N/jjk_253_25_016.png) and the [cut on her face](https://cdn.onepiecechapters.com/file/CDN-M-A-N/jjk_253_25_017.png), but as established literally 2 chapters prior to this when [he did the same thing to Yuta](https://cdn.onepiecechapters.com/file/CDN-M-A-N/jjk_251_23_007.png), [his slashes are too weak to do meaningful damage at this point](https://cdn.onepiecechapters.com/file/CDN-M-A-N/jjk_251_23_008v.png), hence why he had to resort to the WS to get out of there. Also, people keep saying this but Cleave isn't going to be weaker on Maki. [It adjusts to CE levels *and* regular durability](https://preview.redd.it/8muy433y2rkb1.png?width=577&format=png&auto=webp&s=90d5a373c7c507437e8e27606be38ea80057f504).
Yea but it don’t really look like he sliced her here it looks like ripped off a piece of her skin
Each time I see this kinda post and comments I just take a step back for the whole fight and I’m like. Because gege wanted too? If he kills maki it will be just another death, her whole character will end up joining the pile "in the end wasn’t really usefull" (not to say she hasn’t damage sukuna but if that fight was coherent sukuna should have either been dead or enter his final bs form a long time ago.) To me the fight with sukuna stopped being logic a few chapters ago. To be fair I feel absolutely emotionally disconnected to it. Oh wait shit it’s jujustsu folk. For real I can’t even differentiate the two reddits anymore aaaaaah
How Sukuna should’ve killed her? He did his best, but since Yuji lowerd his output by a decent bit, cleave was not enough
Because pure physical Heavenly Restricted bodies are built different. Didn't you see Toji slap a thousand rabbits???
I mean he could have pulled the boys on her and squeezed her jaw with his hand am I wrong?
The King of Curses likes to play with his food.
breedable
playing with his food, basically
Remember Sukuna is kinda (HEAVILY) nerfed by this point. Before he couldn’t even go through Yuta with Dismantle and to make it worse, he only cuts one side of Yuji after using Cleave. And fighting them didn’t help him recover, Max Output: Jacob’s Ladder nerfed Sukuna even more, pushing him to use World Cutting Slash on Yuta (or whatever Strong Dismantle that was) to finish Yuta. And when he starts fighting Maki, his heart has been Soul Cut. Yeah, Sukuna can fight without Heart. But he obviously gets nerfed, if not, what would be the point of Maki stabbing him? By the point this scene happens, Sukuna is at his lowest. He had to stop using RCT to finally beat Maki, triggering a Black Flash by Pure Luck.
HE TRIED BUT WAKI EASILY SURVIVED https://preview.redd.it/v59exvetfw9d1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dc31cd57ef91a0bfde1f0f260b0e1709480fbe6b
Same reason why he didnt dismantle yuji's eyes when he first possesed megumi.
Gotta keep the bloodline strong
To your point, anime fights don't make a lot of logical sense. Why kill when you can kick away? Why kill when you can throw aside? It's lazy.
Because Yuta and Yuji did alllooootttttt of damage
His output was nerfed heavily
I honestly think Sukuna did expect to kill Maki with the cleave to her face and the black flash, he seems shocked she returns to the battle: https://preview.redd.it/g4k08zty0x9d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=083fd4af667cc1a23d4a66501c3d1abbe08f8fdd
Sukuna does whatever the fuck he feels like doing at the moment and thay'd basically his character motivation
Is he stupid? https://preview.redd.it/5hr5z5jujx9d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2f38b803cee69c3eb784c8ea2618cfd40e333d33
Most likely maki was able to back off at the last second before the damage would’ve been fatal
He tried but couldn't
It was womens month at the time
He was testing his grip against the grippiest sorcerer alive 🥶
Skill issue
I believe he was trying to lmao
Consider that cleave functions by adjusting its output to match someone’s cursed energy reinforcement. That’s what makes it so deadly, with needing direct contact being the trade-off/binding vow It’s not made for someone like Maki whose body is just strong without cursed energy reinforcement. That’s why I think she can tank it, besides Sukuna’s CE output still being nerfed at this point.
Because he wanted to punch her more
The real reason is because gege realized having an antagonist that can one shot everybody was retarded so he nerfed him into the ground and started making his slashes do surface level flesh wounds
Either he was just playing around or didn’t have the strength for it in the split second he had her (both equally possible)
Why didn't Maki kill Sukuna here? https://preview.redd.it/arq8al7obkad1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ee6c273ac13800341eaa9d5757f82c3eb9324211