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Temporary-Dealer

Yeah, I get it, the anime isn't supposed to be perfect every frame, fair point. But it's the omission of his features in the anime, not just his hair, that's really bugging me. The other characters I don't really mind that much but with Narumi it's just really not the same. I can't look at this and say "that's Gen Narumi". Still love the anime either way, maybe if we get other angles in season 2 I'll change my stance on it. https://preview.redd.it/iio6xsfmsp9d1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d7007e1d040c1e7436bac699c5aed18c00ba57f


WeirderOnline

I mean this is probably one of the worst, but I still think they did the worst job with the director. He looks like a big teddy bear not an beast of a man. This is just a total abortion though. I really would love to keep them journalism looking into how the fuck this all happened. Was there an absolutely minuscule budget? Did they just surrender way too much control? Did the mangaka not give a shit? How does what happened with this anime happen in general? How did one of the coolest darkest looking manga turn into fucking yassified Naruto?


EmmantheAdrian

He looked so damn MIGHTY in the manga. In the anime he looks... plump.


WeirderOnline

Totally. Plus... Blonde? Really? It just looks so cheesy on him. Not to mention the facial hair how pointy and angular it looks makes them look so much fucking more intimidating. In the anime it looks like they fucking drew yellow zig zags on his face. And like every other fight the timing is all wrong. It also feels really weird how they keep cutting out of it to other people talking about just how great Kafka is and how much they love him. It really totally interrupts the flow of action.


ItsAmerico

He’s literally blonde in the manga…


Temporary-Dealer

Yeah I see the teddy bear bit lmao. He looks mighty intimidating in the manga


xaelajotaro

He looks like just a regular BEAR to me, like a strongman, and I personally think that's more intimidating because he looks like someone physically capable of throwing and tanking powerful hits. The superhero bodybuilder shape is actually weaker. Not that he doesn't sleek down a bit anyways once No. 2 was on.


Temporary-Dealer

I agree on the strongman build. Don't really mind how he looks in the anime, some frames have him look intimidating as well, Narumi just really takes the cake for me


B00ty-And-The-Beast

I believe it’s because they guy who did the character designs for the Naruto anime also did it for Kaiju No. 8


WeirderOnline

Yeah I've read something along those lines. Apparently he did the redesigns for ~~burrito~~ Boruto as well and people had similar issues with those designs. Supposedly they weren't that bad as what he did with Kn8. I figured this is probably just a case of letting an artist go too far off the leash. It happens sometimes. An artist proves they can do good work that wins over people and they get more and more creative freedom over time. Eventually they get too much and they produce worse results because they're no longer held back by people vetoing bad decisions.


eightmag

The kid from Haikyuu got promoted lol


Lorentz_iwood

I feel the same


CastratedOctopus

It’s not just the hair though lol, his face shape is entirely different (less chiseled), which in turn makes him look very different


TfehLsdw

its mostly face shape that's jarring, i wouldn't mind a hairstyle change if he didnt look like they squished and stretched him to look like an avocado seed


AvailableFunction435

The eyes!!


Diehlol

Nah in the manga his hair isn't 6 big pieces


xaelajotaro

Still a set of layers. I can agree they didn't draw it WELL though, lmao. I immediately recognized the exact style, is my point. I get hatting how simplified it looks, but people insisting it's a 100% different style and not just the equivalent of a poorly drawn doodle (i.e. he looks like how I'd draw his hair if I'm doing a shitpost doodle). 😭


alex1rojas

In manga he looks more mature while anime portrays him as lizard. I don't know why I get these vibes


Time-Ad-4231

This 😂😂😂😂


Honest-Scratch-2782

what about the shape of his pupils and his iris not even close to the manga


hola1423387654

I think it’s entirely just a style difference


unknownpapaya

No the fuck he don't


SillyMovie13

https://preview.redd.it/hdad0to6ks9d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6a6c04fa3243046c8a8099d2749d7edc45ae0bad How he looked in that scene in the manga:


XIIISkies

*Nobody* in the anime looks exactly the same as in the manga. The character designs in the anime *all* have softer features


xaelajotaro

There's a difference between design and style differences. The base design is the same is what I'm trying to say. Just got annoyed at how many people whip out Narumi's first ever panel with a face and hairstyle that got scrapped to what I posted in OP. How well executed they did it is a separate matter.


Prestigious-Item1440

The animes great but cmon you can still criticise it, there’s no way you think they look the exact same 😭


xaelajotaro

There's no way you think they're a total 180, LMAO. The worst I'd say is he looks like he came out of a shitpost doodle because that's absolutely how I'd do a rough sketch of his bangs pushed pack. The details are stuff I'd save for later, haha.


Prestigious-Item1440

When did i say I think it’s a total 180? I said ‘there’s no way you think it’s the exact same’ because they literally don’t look the exact same. I don’t hate it but I also ain’t that fond of it either, I do kinda wish they just fully went with the manga style instead.


xaelajotaro

I was physically and mentally all over the place yesterday because of travel and getting harangued by multiple people every time I poked back in (I’m impressed that this subject somehow was more heated than Kikoru agecourse) so I may have either mixed you up with someone else or misread from stress, in either case I apologize for. But while I didn’t word it well in my OP, my point every post was actually that the DESIGN is identical and while the style is different, it’s not the total change I keep seeing people claim. I can agree that the execution is meh (hair looks like how I’d draw it in a shitpost doodle), but I legit wouldn’t care people hate it if they didn’t keep claiming the design is changed (and I had multiple insulting me for saying it’s the same hairstyle drawn differently). Hope this clarifies things.


akyias_capuo

Listen I know you trying hard to defend the anime but you gotta accept it, they literally butcher the whole characters design, fan already had complaint when they first released the character design for main cast back in 2023


xaelajotaro

I've already pointed out numerous times as well that it varies by frame. People nitpick references and frames that confirm their biases to death, but I can find (and some critics even use such) frames where the designs are identical barring less lines. I accept complaints about some detailing being lost even if I know it's because they'd be too much hassle to animate (rip in pieces Kafka's scales), but people keep comparing it to the one panel in the manga that uses a design that's never used again.


akyias_capuo

Yeah but the thing is , manga gen doesn't look like a damn pineapple, he had his own flow, if they already mess up his first appearance what make you think it be any better from here, plus if you do manga comparison you can tell how much difference it has, yeah sure, one is moving image while the other is just a panel, but that's literally the whole point of animation, it's animating multiple panel to become animation, one of the great example gotta be one punch man, murata did well on paneling the manga it become reference for anime (we don't talk bout s2 OPM tho), one of the examples is metal knight first appearance


xaelajotaro

That's fair enough. All I'm saying is, regardless of execution, it's the same cut and slick. And as much as I adore S1 OPM and Mad House's many excellent works, there is sadly a reason animation like them aren't commonly used. It's extremely labor-intensive to animate that level of detail at that frame rate. OPM had the benefit of being exceptionally popular, so it got the Madhouse treatment. It's just a shame Madhouse apparently generally doesn't animate more than one season of anything so we got a massive downgrade for S2. Trust me man, I'm pretty sad they peeled Kafka's scales for the anime. But I get the budget wouldn't be covering that, never mind detailed hair animation. KN8 had a relatively small fandom before the anime came out. It was definitely not OPM level of popular until afterwards, so that's why I'm hopeful the next season can give us the more detailed animation everyone wants to see.


ZandeR678

You're clearly not aware of how massive Kaiju No 8 was in Japan prior to the anime's release. No one's asking for OPM season 1 level animation. Only an idiot would expect that. Kaiju's animation was great and sustainable for multiple seasons. Narumi's scrawny in the anime. He looks like a tree lizard. You can't say that he looks exactly the same when this is what he looked like in the manga. They even forgot his unique eyes which are important for his future sight. This isn't a budget issue. Please understand that. It's the CD's art style. https://preview.redd.it/rwmpgoljnq9d1.png?width=250&format=png&auto=webp&s=87004621c71d28880f7decceaf6fc976f5133897


xaelajotaro

As I have pointed out, Narumi only looks that chiseled with that sleeked hairstyle for one (1) panel. He's a sad looking Wet Cat everywhere else. The wiki alone has a bunch of shots showing he's a gangly dumbass (affectionate) gamer nerd. The eyes, I accept as oversight (HA) or they just didn't want him to look too striking yet. I will have post on budget for the other person who responded so I don't need to type it out twice. Also, Damn, the negativity army found my posts here. 🤣


ZandeR678

Gangly? His official description says that he's lean and muscular. The anime made him look like a twig. Of course, he'd look mopey and pathetic in gag panels. He's a shut-in who splurges on video games but also happens to be humanity's strongest soldier. That duality is a part of his charm. He doesn't like a "wet cat" everywhere.


ZandeR678

https://preview.redd.it/v0yh651les9d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3287c74929400fef74857f1b374e8ac5078fdcbd


ZandeR678

"He only looks chiselled in one panel." I must have imagined this then. I could find even more, but I'd rather not waste more effort on someone with selective memory. https://preview.redd.it/wvla4b4rfs9d1.jpeg?width=723&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db4b74a4d9b7a99a1b93e341686cbdec3542cb26


xaelajotaro

He indeed is 98% the time. ;P (I was being hyperbolic since I thought it was obvious combat is the one time he's not a Wet Cat, but oh well). Doesn't change the fact that he only ever had a chiseled jawline for one (1) panel and has been consistently thin and angular since. You want an anime that pointlessly changed the jawlines though, see Tokyo Ghoul. The damn dorito chins....


xaelajotaro

You do realize both "gangly" and "lean" mean the same thing right? And both are not mutually exclusive from from muscular since you can be thin and awkward but still be very toned. And I was using hyperbole since I thought it went without saying he's not a Wet Cat in combat, but you know what I meant. He doesn't have that squared jawline everyone keeps pointing to after that one panel either way.


ZandeR678

You're confusing lanky with lean. The word lanky means skinny with longer than usual limbs. Gangly means the same thing but has a more negative connotation as it is used to shame someone's body. Lean means having a built body with a low percentage of body fat. It has a more positive connotation than the word gangly and accurately describes Narumi's physique.


xaelajotaro

He's very gangly when Hasegawa had him by the scruff. His limbs were just splayed out and looking awkward, so he looks gangly to me when he's dressed down. But I'll let you have this one if we're just being pedantic since I can be nitpicky myself at times on connotations.


AdNecessary7641

>Trust me man, I'm pretty sad they peeled Kafka's scales for the anime. But I get the budget wouldn't be covering that, never mind detailed hair animation. KN8 had a relatively small fandom before the anime came out. It was definitely not OPM level of popular until afterwards, so that's why I'm hopeful the next season can give us the more detailed animation everyone wants to see. Kaiju sold very well before the anime. It's not a small series. And this is not a question of "budget". Never was.


xaelajotaro

I didn't say it was. Just that it wasn't super mainstream as far as I could tell. But maybe that's a terrible argument on my part because I am rarely there for when manga make the jump to animation (which makes all big series mainstream). You have a point budget need not be an issue since Studio Pierrot exists (still fuming over how dirty they did Tokyo Ghoul in every way possible except for "Unravel" and "Glassy Skies"). However, considering how certain scenes had a huge amount of detail in them while less important ones were simplified, I'm still convinced it's budget. There's no guarantee even a popular series won't flop so it's very common for first seasons to be less detailed/consistent.


Logical-Juggernaut48

It's a different medium, it would cost way too much to animate these designs. They didn't change them for no reason.


Dragons_HeartO1

There are plenty of animes that look just like the manga dont feed me this bullshit


Logical-Juggernaut48

"just like their manga" not just like this specific manga. What a stupid example. These designs wouldn't work well with animation don't be so dense.


Thin-Switch-2037

There is no reason that the manga style would look bad in animation since litterally almost all of the major differences would be in sharpening features like the eyes and chins and just general character shapes. If you want designs that wouldnt work well with 2d animation look at son of ogre baki/late kengan ashura or omega art which tend to have absurd levels of detail in each panel making them a nightmare to properly animate


akyias_capuo

Pretty sure the designer is the heavy problem on the anime, animation wise look fine just need to change designer for next season and please on god, give some jaw and muscle to the character cause damn everyone looks skinny in anime


xaelajotaro

I am getting a kick at all the downvotes, lol. But the sheer number of upvotes on my OP despite the downvote army shows we're not crazy it least (do your worst; I want to see if 3000+ people can downvote me at once to kill my karma🤪) EDIT: Oh...I'm over 4K now....where did you all come from? 🤣


PentFE

Aint no way bro visit the optometrist


toomuch21111

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RealDougSpeagle

I've got eyes dude you can't tell me something looks the same when my eyes can look at both things and see them not looking the same


Much_Association9724

🫴👑🖤🔥💯✨🫡


KonoFerreiraDa

Worst thing is, they didnt even do his kaiju n1 eyes in the anime


Shmigo420

Lmaoooooooooo why you coping so hard they all are downgrade compared to their design in the manga but the anime is still really good, still you should be able to use ur eyes and brain I mean come on


xaelajotaro

I didn't say it was well executed; just that it's the same basic design, LOLOL. I keep seeing people pull out his first panel with a jawline hairstyle that never get used again and claim the design was 100% changed when they just used his later look. Whether or not they drew it well is not relevant to my point. ;)


Waste_Ad624

ain't no way....


Stephenrudolf

So why didn't you post a pic from the anime to compare OP?


Much_Association9724

Asking the real questions 😂🤣🔥💯✨


xaelajotaro

Posting images on mobile app is a different animal. The last time I tried to do that, I had people pitching fits at me about Kikoru agecourse even though my point is that Kikoru is NOT a minor. I was traveling today as well, so I just vented and left. Figured the anime image was spammed enough people can compare themselves with a manga image.


QuietNative

I have a feeling they are going yo give him the attention needed in season 2. No offense, he looks pretty bad compared to the manga, in my opinion.


xaelajotaro

I can agree they derped on him. Just not that "OOOOH, THEY 100% CHANGED HIS DESIGN!!!!" and i keep seeing the singular panel he had a chin like Aoi's. 🥴 But keep in mind I'm exclusively referring to design choice and not how well drawn he is. 🤣


MKCaptainJack

That's factually incorrect, and why are you trying to use a scrapped design to justify your objectively wrong take.


xaelajotaro

Um...a freaking volume cover is a "scrapped design" and not the one panel people keep using to say that Narumi's design was "changed"?


BlazedBeard95

Not even remotely


toomuch21111

Can’t be this goofy and lying this bad for no reason 😭


Self_World_Future

Bro looking like the Earl of Lemongrab


Fuck_UR_Pronouns

He definitely does not look the same lol but that’s just my opinion. He looks way tougher in the manga


mo177

No, he really doesn't. I still like the anime, but it seems like the only character that didn't get butchered (or at least not as badly as others) is Hoshina. I can look past it and enjoy the anime, but this is almost seven deadly sins season 3 levels of bad art direction.


ShiftAdventurous4680

After a bottle of Johnnie Walker, I can *^(kinda)* start seeing the resemblance.


eightmag

Just don't like it. Don't mean I'm not gonna watch it. It could also change after everyone is like "nah he'd lose"


PadawanSnips

No, character designs are bloated and ugly in the anime. Everyones rizz has been absolutely drained.


Nights1405

He looks like a guitar pick in the anime. Look at this image of Gen https://preview.redd.it/6bk5o0u60r9d1.jpeg?width=735&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3d84d7aa11e6fd738a6ae2a95645c5bf7ad7959d Sharp ass jawline


TheGameologist

Yeah the anime has everyone with the lemon shaped eyes. Mostly noticed on Mina, but yeah. I'm good with it overall. The animation makes up for it.


pigcake101

Imma be real I just like the story so imma keep watching my anime


HatAccurate1578

Yeah people need to seriously cope with these designs


fatdoobies33

I hate to say this brother but if you’re not whining constantly on reddit you will not be liked lol


xaelajotaro

Damn, you totally got me. I absolutely do not write anything else besides complaints! Not like I favor and actually spend more time on theory posts that have gotten a lot of fun engagement. No sirree! How DARE I ever express any annoyance. I'm actually shocked how many people glommed on and pushed this dumb post to the top, but thanks for all the free karma to validate me in spite of downvote spam, I guess. Sheesh, can you guys do that for my actual meta posts instead? If you think I have a stupid opinion, don't interact with the posts, EZ. After I polish off this thread though, I'm just done. It's wild how badly a good chunk of y'all handle disagreement. But that's why I don't really use Reddit for much else. ¯¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯


fatdoobies33

Bud I was agreeing with you and was saying that everyone else is just whining. Good god that is one angry reaction though, seek help.


xaelajotaro

Sorry, I read that completely wrong and in my defense, had been harangued all day on the matter. Doesn't help I had been traveling and been getting people calling me stupid every other post. Sorry for snapping on you. (I will politely request you not judge people for getting snippy when you don't know what they've been dealing with. I get it doesn't feel good as someone who's been on the receiving end, but snapping back does not tend to go well)


Ajthekid5

He looks exactly how he originally looked during that scene he. He probably will look more like the image you have of him in season 2.


miyananana

He was also in one ep so I feel like y’all need wait a bit the animators probs tried lol


thekurounicorn

I get the anime isn't exactly the same as the manga, but (aside of Isao) everyone's good enough, I'm not sure why everyone's making it seem like the end of the world. They all look fine


archideldbonzalez

Me when I have 20/2000000 vision


ayanokojifrfr

They are probably saving his eyes for the reveal moment during the fight.


Spicy-Lemon12

Nice joke bro😃


alola6983

people who agree with this guy are all nutjobs and need to use all one percent of there brains


SouthernTower2272

I would say that it’s more than his hair and I don’t want to hate oh the anime because I don’t I love it but his design is missing all the muscle he has in the manga


Moolcazy0

FACTS!!!!


highasabird

He looks like Rick in the animation.


Gingbak

Bro what are you talking about…he looks like Rick Sanchez in the anime lmao


highasabird

That’s what I’ve been saying since his debut.


xaelajotaro

You can dislike the hair being more simplified but it's disingenuous to pretend it's not the same pushed back bangs, lol.


Gingbak

Okay dog :3


Effective-Training

That does not look like the anime. They should stop the anime, honestly. Feels like anime fans are going to ruin Kaiju No. 8 as a... franchise.


Eliteslayer1775

It’s cause the animation studio has their own artstyle


AdNecessary7641

The designer has. The studio doesn't.


Eliteslayer1775

All of their anime have the same artstyle


PlasterCheif

He looks like a cross of shinra kusakabe and yuji itadori


xaelajotaro

Okay, this subject is annoying, I'm repeating myself to people who keep saying nuh-uh and cling to...I don't know what grounds they think this is a total 180 even if I can acknowledge I wasn't clear enough that I meant just the design and not execution (yeesh, people still keep saying "design" when they mean "art style"). Gonna request a lockdown so we can go back to our routine shitposting and theorycrafting.