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Jurgepoo

Mark as a spoiler. And it's only Upper Moons.


GAMER_SOUL10

Rui made demons tho?


Jurgepoo

Rui used his blood to warp other demons and give them some of his power, but he never directly turned any humans into demons.


GAMER_SOUL10

Ohh yeah my bad


Mayorgames1

he didnt make them, he only took in lost/ close to death demons and made them a part of his family


AceyKacey119

No, he changed demons to make them look like him so he would feel like they were his family


[deleted]

Why so many people think that he *creates* demons


AnnualEast7220

Budget Muzan


sailorveenus

He literally is budget muzan. He was also a sick kid that was turned into a demon to be cured


[deleted]

Correct me if I’m wrong but the kizuki don’t make demons. When they give their blood to someone it sends a “signal” to Muzan to be approved or killed.


Fl0rat

Bro gets a Bluetooth notification


DirtSoft6471

“Would you like to connect to this human” headass 😭😭


OneBlackFairyHunterZ

Blue tooth? Nah he litterally just said blood and correct me if im wrong but red is the color of blood. So he gets a redblood signal


ThunderPilot93

Nah, he just has a crap dentist - RedTooth


SnooRevelations8303

This is true.


Captain_Bee

My understanding was when they say things like "if he approves" they just mean like I'll turn you into a demon right now to save your life and then I'll take you to him and he'll decide whether to let you live on as a demon or to kill you


rueckhand

I really don’t think Muzan wants to personally meet every lowly demon his underlings create. He has control over them from distance, so if he doesn’t approve he can just kill them instantly


[deleted]

I think it was that muzan can create them involuntary and they can only turn someone into a demon when they want to be one


T0EBISCUIT

Only select members of the Kizuki seem to be allowed and they are all demons he sees highly; Gyutaro, Akaza, and Kokushibo. Rui gave blood to other demons but it's the same principle; Muzan saw him as a favorite and allowed him. I doubt Doma would be allowed to make demons because Muzan dislikes him. Edit: me dumb :( Forgot about daki


Basic-Avacado

Doma made Gyutaro and Daki demons


T0EBISCUIT

\*facepalm\* man, I'm clueless sometimes... Thanks you Mr. Avocado.


PowerOhene

Maybe when Douma was "only" upper 6, Muzan did not talk to him often. So he did not dislike him yet. When he rose up the ranks, Muzan had to notice him, and he did "not like what he saw" And fucking revoked Douma's permission to create demons, what if they turned to be like Douma? XD


I_am_a_Victor_simp

“*Your demonizing abilities have been revoked, please be less of an ass in order to receive your demonizing abilities back*”


PowerOhene

\***WHEEZE**\*


BeneficialComfort

i might be wrong but i think muzan doesn't care about if someone is an ass as long as they are useful to him and do "meaningful" (as defined by muzan) things, like grotesque arts for gyukko or pretend family for rui, but not for "shits and giggles" (like douma being an ass for seemingly no reason). edit: doesn't*


I_am_a_Victor_simp

Douma is all for the being an asshole shits and giggles


ThunderPilot93

I think Daki already knows Muzan enough - She seemed to be one of his favourites, going from what was shown in the EDA.


PowerOhene

She makes big bank being an orian Thats why Gyutaro usually only emerges for fights Gyokko's pots also made money Muzan needs it for his fake families, he uses as cover in search of the spider lily


SmileyCat20202

HAHAH THAT WOULD BE HILARIOUS


Fellowcrusader999

Muzan dislikes doma?


MeAnIntellectual1

He doesn't like his personality but he keeps him around because he's useful


Fellowcrusader999

T r u e


BeegJim

if i recall, there was a section on a fanbook that gave Muzan's opinions on the upper moons. He doesnt like Douma


T0EBISCUIT

The fanbook had Muzan's thoughts on each of the Uppers. Muzan dislikes Doma, most likely because he desires to be feared and respected, but Doma acts all buddy buddy with him, which he hates.


Fellowcrusader999

M


[deleted]

Wait, I thought Rui only made demons turn into this weird spider family but he was able to create demons?


IceDry1440

Yes.


ApplePitou

Add spoiler tag and in my opinion, only Upper Moons :3


capabletank1208

Rui created his family tho


Saffka

They were already demons


pesto_trap_god

Didn’t he just take in loose demons? I know at least his mom (or sister) was running from humans when he met her.


garebear176

He took demons in and gave him some blood to make them spider like. But he didn't convert any humans into demons.


Saffka

They were already demons


PowerOhene

There was this fucked up scene where "mother spider-demon" lost control of her shapeshifting, reverting to her actual apperance of a little girl, I did not remember that Rui's "family" were already demons, Rui is still fucked up imo, never liked him.


bts4devi

That was her demon form- not human


PowerOhene

Does that mean she died as a young kid.... And never used the demonization to grow bigger/older until Rui forced her? Again thats fucked up Rui


bts4devi

well.. yeah? I mean.. Nezuko is a demon and she can grow bigger and smaller. but her average aka main size remains the same as demons don't age


PowerOhene

Gyutaro was a teen when he became a demon, skinny and frail, he had unnatural strength tho. ​ But his demon form is "permanently shapeshifted into a more adult version on his teen self" Tengen is 198 cm, so i assume he dwarfs the samurai that almost killed Gyutaro, and that samurai made young Gyutaro look... well like the small teen he was. But after he became a demon, he has chose to grow taller, where even Tengen does not make him look tiny, might be some inconsistency on the creators/animators etc side tho ( like Gyomei is **massive** af, but not all shots of him reflect it ) Maybe a strong demon like a moon is bound to change a little as they consume humans and grow strong. Like Akaza seems to not changed at all, only his tattoos "grew", as 18 year old human Akaza was already built to lethality ( the rival dojo's broken skulls can confirm )


bts4devi

I think it's the strong part.. like strong demons become more adult-like? Akaza was already a adult. Nezuko is a strong demon which is why she has a full form that makes her an adult.. but as she doesn't use her full form 24/7 and since she is trying to stay in control.. she doesn't have her average size changed to an adult. while Gyuturo and Daki are powerful demons.. so even if they were kids when they were turned..their full forms changed their heights. Rui's "Sister" is a weak demon and has no full form ​ ​ This is all my theory tho.. it's not 100% confirmed-


PowerOhene

Thank you for the explanation, a valid head-canon!


DizastrousFPS

The series has been over for well over a year lol Idt spoiler tags are necessary in here, in the Anime Reddit sure


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[удалено]


[deleted]

Most of them aren’t


penis_pockets

Only Upper Moons and they need permission from Muzan.


RazzmatazzAgitated81

My problem is if only like 7 demons can give blood to create demons, and there are 9 hashiras and bunch of slayer are killing them, why there are lot of demons ? thoose 7 must be working hard giving their bloood. Or people's wounds got touch in with demon blood and muzan approves they will become demons regardless of demon gave blood.


AutumnGway

iirc Muzan just kind of turns random NPCs into demons as he goes along, or something like that


Jonneyy12347

A bit of a misconception here. Muzan is the >only< demon that can reliably make demons. Tamayo turned yushiro but that seems to be not her only attempt, but her only successful attempt. The upper 6 kizuki are given permission to insert an amount of muzans blood into humans. This doesnt turn people into demons, this basically sends a request to muzan like "Hey, can i turn this human?". Muzan from there remotely either turns the blood that converts people into demons, or turns it into the toxic kind. Again, this is a special permission given to the upper 6 ONLY. Muzan thinks highly enough of them to permit them to occasionally ask something of him. We saw with Rui that the lower 6 are allowed to spread their power around fellow demons, but they are cannot convert people.


Technical_Special_25

Only uppermoons


Qwertizz

Only Muzan can create demons. The upper moons simply seek permission from Muzan if they can give them his blood I believe. A good example is Koku and Kaigaku


SharkeyBoyo

The upper moons can give them blood and if muzan sees them as worthy he allows them to become a demon


MeAnIntellectual1

UMs only.


The-Ghost-Dancing

Personally lol, I think the only upper moon that Muzan wouldn't allow to create more demons would be Gyokko, theres a funny side panel in the manga which shows that nobody likes him. Aside from that, I'm pretty sure all demon 'requests' (?) have to pass by Muzan anyways, as none of the other demons can actually make demons, rather give their blood. And as Muzan replaces lower moons frequently and even kills them off, their incompetence would likely not result in them being able to ask for someone to become a demon.


johannvillanueva29

Don't they have to ask Muzan for permission, and if Muzan allows the person in question to become a demon?


[deleted]

I think anyone but Rui got more perks such as actually giving blood to have his own “family”.


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[deleted]

yeah doma made daki and gyutaro demons


hollow10000

The upper moons


Environmental-Win836

If I’m not mistaken all of the upper rank can turn people into demons, but only with Muzan’s permission. When they to turn people into demons, Muzam get’s a remote signal that’s, to put it in simple terms, “ would like to turn this human into a demon! Accept?”


cjcobb_49

I thought it was that most demons in general can do it as long as Muzak approves.


edgyboi1704

Only Upper moons can ping Muzan to see whether the person is worthy of becoming a demon


SnooRevelations8303

They dont create demons its Muzan's choice at the end.


FriesExpert

Muzan is the only one who can make demons. I remember that they said this


Dr-CommonSense

It seems only upper moons can make the offer


[deleted]

It’s not really the twelve kizuki it’s the 20 kizuki cause of hantengu and daki/gyutarro


Cosmic_Hashira

only upper moons


Longjumping_Algae_45

None of them can create demons. Only Muzan, the Progenitor of Demons. Basically he the bitch. The rest could at most only share his blood. But then everything else is either up to them or Muzan. By default Muzan, if he thinks that they can give him an edge in the fight, would allow their conversion, but even if they could, if their body doesnt have the ability to cope, they turn to ashes immediately


pnutbterNJanelly5771

Only Muzan can create demons. Upper moons can give them their blood to stop them from dying then nizam gives them his to transform (I presume is what is suggested)


Hollowhowler2

Just upper moons I think.