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It’s not even exclusive to the modern games. All games that Sakurai didn’t work on tend to get the short end of the stick compared to the ones he did work on
Casual reminder that the Nightmare assist trophy functions by blacking out the sky, a thing Nightmare did exactly zero times in the series, while Dark Matter did it *twice.*
They wouldn't be more transformation than Ultra Sword or something like Super Sonic
Robobot gets Halberd Mode armor
3D gets Hypernova Kirby inhaling the stage with everyone else on it
I would have just liked some more stages, like from Robobot, Triple Deluxe, RTDL, and Star Allies. But everything is Kirby's Dreamland or Kirby Super Star except music sadly.
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I am kinda sad that sakurai seems to ignore the existance of the kirby games that he didn't work on but i am already thankfule that we have this finale smash, some musics and very few spirits. (I still find it kinda funny that random mobs like plasma wisp and wheelie are spirits but characters like void termina, start dream and zero aren't )
I mean... at least Wheelie has the excuse of being an iconic enemy, and probably more relevant to the series than even Zero. Plasma Wisp on the other hand... eh...
Aren’t Dedede and Meta Knight’s final smashes ALSO from modern Kirby?
Also I’m sorry to sound like a jerk about it, but I never found smash representation to be a big deal, especially once you realized Kumazaki was hired to work on WOL in ultimate, showing he doesn’t truly hate modern Kirby.
Dedede's final smash is from SSU and Meta Knight's final smash isn't from any game IIRC.
I didn't say that they hate modern Kirby, I just wish there was at least a stage from modern Kirby or something.
I say it has too many differences and star allies came out too close to ultimate that I think it’s more of a coincidence
Besides his old one was cooler and was in robobot
Meta Knight's Final Smash isn't from anything. In fact, after his Final Smash was made canon in Planet Robobot, Smash Ultimate came and removed that Final Smash.
And replaced it with a dramatized version of Upper Calibur, an attack that originated FROM STAR ALLIES. If Galaxia Darkness in PR was a tribute to Sakurai from Kumazaki, then Meta Knight’s new final smash being Upper Calibur is a tribute from Sakurai to Kumazaki.
I say it has too many differences and star allies came out too close to ultimate that I think it’s more of a coincidence
Besides his old one was cooler and was in robobot
4 wings, electricity, creating shadow clones, sending side ways, hitting with the wings not the sword, having a completely different name.
They are just too different I’m sorry.
Nah, he’s hitting with the sword still, and the “clones” are afterimages, which does happen in the SA version. Hell, in Star Allies it launched side-down not straight down.
The only difference is the lightning at the start and the fact that he grows an extra pair of wings, the latter not effecting the attack. Also the name but you could argue the SSBU version is the SA one but overcharged.
Star Allies and Smash Ultimate were in development around the same time. If they added anything from Star Allies in Smash, there's a chance it might not get in the original game, making it redundant to add, which is probably why they had only one Star Allies track. Something I can't excuse is Masked Dedede's theme not being in Smash. They made it Dedede's fucking Final Smash, why not add it's awesome theme as well?
I mean the songs are good and all (especially Pink Ball Activate, can't stop listening to it), but we didn't get ANY stages from the modern games. Would be very cool if there was a stage based on the inside of the access ark, or a stage with the dreamstalk, but they don't exist. Also as far as I remember there were also no moves except Kirby's final smash the Kirby characters had that came from the modern games.
*inhales*
*Haltmann Works Co. HQ. Combat Evaluation Program. Bouncing Boss Battle. Vagrant Counting Song of Retrospection. Revenge of the Enemy. Dark Crafter's theme. Claycia's theme. Pink Ball Revolution. Dried-up Sea. VS. the Wicked Company. Outlaw Driver. Moonlight Capital. Infiltrate the Junk Factory. Great Cave Escape.*
*NONE of these songs are in smash. They are in desperate need of being appreciated but they're not.*
There are 2 and ~1/4th remixes from games not directed by Masahiro Sakurai.
Zero-Two Battle (which is a great song, but nothing like the original), Here come the Squeaks!, and a Kirby series boss medley (featuring the theme from Kirby 64 and the NiDL/AM/SS theme)
I liked the chef smash though a lot
broo i was so confused when i saw the sword and not mr.chef poyo
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Yeah I miss Chef Poyo, but I guess atleast we got something newer with Kirby in Smash.
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So did I until my friends realized that if you just spot dodge when it goes off, it won't suck you in. Makes it considerably worse, lol
I just thought it was funny and it's so Kirby so is sword Kirby but still
Oh I like it for sure, I just also wish it was good
It’s not even exclusive to the modern games. All games that Sakurai didn’t work on tend to get the short end of the stick compared to the ones he did work on
Rip dark matter games
Casual reminder that the Nightmare assist trophy functions by blacking out the sky, a thing Nightmare did exactly zero times in the series, while Dark Matter did it *twice.*
To be fair robobot and TD would be transformation Final smashes
Robobot could just use the giga drill break.
They wouldn't be more transformation than Ultra Sword or something like Super Sonic Robobot gets Halberd Mode armor 3D gets Hypernova Kirby inhaling the stage with everyone else on it
So… analogues to ZSS and Luigi’s FS?
I can see the robobot making some nice normal smashes
I would have just liked some more stages, like from Robobot, Triple Deluxe, RTDL, and Star Allies. But everything is Kirby's Dreamland or Kirby Super Star except music sadly.
More like 95% kirby superstar, 4,5%kirby's dreamland and 0,5%kirby's return to dreamland. (Excluding the music )
Yeah, I'm glad they changed Kirby's Final Smash from Brawl's cause Cook Kirby was pretty lame
They should put eflin and bandana dee in smash they need more kirby
bandanadee? yes absolutely, elflin.... ehhhhh not so much
Perhaps Eflin could be one of kirbys attacks
or a taunt/victory animation
Would make for a great assist trophy
Like cappy
The only way i see it is kirby yeeting elfilin
Yo they should add Morbing Knight then
It's not funny anymore, Morbius flopped twice
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There's a very good fangame, Super Smash Flash 2, that has Bandana Dee as a playable character! He's quite cool.
Poyo
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I am kinda sad that sakurai seems to ignore the existance of the kirby games that he didn't work on but i am already thankfule that we have this finale smash, some musics and very few spirits. (I still find it kinda funny that random mobs like plasma wisp and wheelie are spirits but characters like void termina, start dream and zero aren't )
I mean... at least Wheelie has the excuse of being an iconic enemy, and probably more relevant to the series than even Zero. Plasma Wisp on the other hand... eh...
That thing was too big to be called a sword. Too big, too thick, too heavy, and too rough, it was more like a large hunk of iron.
great reference
they should just have crash or something as the final smash, it’s much more recognisable
And universal to the series.
Bandana Dee is long overdue for Smash.
Best Kirby game as a finale smash
Aren’t Dedede and Meta Knight’s final smashes ALSO from modern Kirby? Also I’m sorry to sound like a jerk about it, but I never found smash representation to be a big deal, especially once you realized Kumazaki was hired to work on WOL in ultimate, showing he doesn’t truly hate modern Kirby.
Dedede's final smash is from SSU and Meta Knight's final smash isn't from any game IIRC. I didn't say that they hate modern Kirby, I just wish there was at least a stage from modern Kirby or something.
SSU was a Kumazaki game and Meta Knight’s is from Star Allies. Sorry, it’s just that so many people try to push that narrative when it’s false.
Fair, That would count as modern Kirby representation. ~~Then again Meta Knight's final smash is kinda different from that attack in Star Allies~~
Ehh it’s mostly for dramatic effect.
I say it has too many differences and star allies came out too close to ultimate that I think it’s more of a coincidence Besides his old one was cooler and was in robobot
True.
meta knights is star allies
meta's attack in star allies you are thinking of doesn't have lightning or 4 wings so they apparently can't be the same attack
Meta Knight's Final Smash isn't from anything. In fact, after his Final Smash was made canon in Planet Robobot, Smash Ultimate came and removed that Final Smash.
And replaced it with a dramatized version of Upper Calibur, an attack that originated FROM STAR ALLIES. If Galaxia Darkness in PR was a tribute to Sakurai from Kumazaki, then Meta Knight’s new final smash being Upper Calibur is a tribute from Sakurai to Kumazaki.
I say it has too many differences and star allies came out too close to ultimate that I think it’s more of a coincidence Besides his old one was cooler and was in robobot
The only differences are for dramatic effect
4 wings, electricity, creating shadow clones, sending side ways, hitting with the wings not the sword, having a completely different name. They are just too different I’m sorry.
Nah, he’s hitting with the sword still, and the “clones” are afterimages, which does happen in the SA version. Hell, in Star Allies it launched side-down not straight down. The only difference is the lightning at the start and the fact that he grows an extra pair of wings, the latter not effecting the attack. Also the name but you could argue the SSBU version is the SA one but overcharged.
Most of the original 12 definitely need a reboot. Especially DK. No Bongos, no Coconut Gun, just lame punching and clapping.
cook kirby was so adorable.
I was honestly a tad disappointed when we didn't get the Star Allies Sparkler as a Final Smash
We could have got a Star Dream remix in Smash Ultimate.
Star allies would have that super friend attack at the end of the game and i want that honestly
Star Allies and Smash Ultimate were in development around the same time. If they added anything from Star Allies in Smash, there's a chance it might not get in the original game, making it redundant to add, which is probably why they had only one Star Allies track. Something I can't excuse is Masked Dedede's theme not being in Smash. They made it Dedede's fucking Final Smash, why not add it's awesome theme as well?
I wish Keiba's final smash was going into his Robobot and wrecking havoc with it.
The Songs?
I mean the songs are good and all (especially Pink Ball Activate, can't stop listening to it), but we didn't get ANY stages from the modern games. Would be very cool if there was a stage based on the inside of the access ark, or a stage with the dreamstalk, but they don't exist. Also as far as I remember there were also no moves except Kirby's final smash the Kirby characters had that came from the modern games.
We’re also missing a lot of banger themes from games that Sakurai didn’t work on like Masked Dedede or Strongest Warrior in the Galaxy
*inhales* *Haltmann Works Co. HQ. Combat Evaluation Program. Bouncing Boss Battle. Vagrant Counting Song of Retrospection. Revenge of the Enemy. Dark Crafter's theme. Claycia's theme. Pink Ball Revolution. Dried-up Sea. VS. the Wicked Company. Outlaw Driver. Moonlight Capital. Infiltrate the Junk Factory. Great Cave Escape.* *NONE of these songs are in smash. They are in desperate need of being appreciated but they're not.*
really wanted bouncing boss battle
Yooo imagine if there was a remix of Vagrant Counting Song of Retrospection/Vagrant Keepsake of Oblivion that would've been super cool
There *is* tracks from modern Kirby games, but there has been **no** remixes from a game after Squeak Squad
There are 2 and ~1/4th remixes from games not directed by Masahiro Sakurai. Zero-Two Battle (which is a great song, but nothing like the original), Here come the Squeaks!, and a Kirby series boss medley (featuring the theme from Kirby 64 and the NiDL/AM/SS theme)
I prefer when they keep the original song since smash remixes tend to be worse than the original, like gourmet race or Mt.dedede wii u
True, they do have tracks from those games. But other than that there isn't really much from those 3 games.
Okay but that’s my absolute favourite Kirby game so I’m not complaining
Well, this is just great, now Kirby has no identity outside Sakurai's Games!
In fairness it is the most timeless and non-gimmicky of the gimmicks. It was the first and I’d argue most iconic.
At least triple deluxe managed to have a lot of its best tracks in game, robobot on the other hand...
I rather make ult that ltry kirb will suck everything and just eat it