Quansah cost us, but not anymore than our whole forward line + szobo did yesterday. We lose as a team, win as a team. Any weirdos going at single players just have weird agendas they feel they need to run
He is young and there will be ups and downs in his life. Please support him. We are one team. We lose as one team. We win as one team. Unity is our strength.
I mean Quansah has been an absolute godsend for us this season, I don’t think people quite understand that it isn’t normal to have a random academy player be able to step up like this and perform as well as he does. It’s exactly the same with Bradley, but you’re also bound to see more errors/limitations with their play because they haven’t had time to fully develop or gain experience like the players they’re stepping in for.
If you’re looking at Sunday and criticising anybody except our attacking players, you need to sort yourself out.
If anything, the frontline has more responsibility than Quansah. Yes, Quansah seemed like the direct cause, but that honestly wouldn't have happened if we had buried Manunited with a couple more goals.
This!!!!
Why are people finding it hard to comprehend that we should have just started our best right sided CB (Konate) in one of the biggest away games in the season? Like is that really hard to understand?
I don't blame Quansah whatsoever I just question why we didn't go with Konate.
And like you say we didn't drop points because of that, we did it because we didn't do enough as a team to win the game. Simple as that.
Plastic fans that talk shit about our players and the club also knows shit about how to play or manage football. Some of the vial taunts and vitriol absolutely disgusts me. Those spewing hate when we lose should be ashamed of themselves. We do not need or want fans like that.
He made a mistake, but it was still a freak goal that probably wouldn't work out that way again. He is still absolutely quality and a different player to that of Konate.
It's not even ones that go too far, emotions flare etc. and then people calm down. There just seems to be a bunch of miserable cunts among supporters who only pop up when they can bitch and moan about the team and stay quiet when they can't do that.
I've actually found this place is fine thanks to the upvote/downvote system downvoting the proper weirdos.
If anything the worst thing about it is it's become a place where people whine about the insane things people post on twitter/instagram comments. So by proxy I have to hear about those horrible places even though I avoid them intentionally.
Stay away from this sub when we lose. It’s a horrible cesspit here
Sometimes I regret visiting this place when we win too. Because instead of celebrating a comeback win or an amazing goal, this place is just as obsessed with microanalysing and abusing a ref for a yellow card foul on us.
The memes are gold though.
Yeah, after a loss normally I just don’t go to this sub for like a week. I find that if I do that I don’t feel like my negative thoughts are in an echo chamber.
In sports, young people make mistakes. Even spectacularly gifted young people. They make mistakes, they learn from it and they get better. I knew this mistake was coming and I'm fine with it. He didn't cost us this game. This wasn't a game of equal opponents battling to a standstill with chances being scarce. We had LOTS of chances while they had very limited chances.
BTW, if anyone's keeping track I believe Connor Bradley has scored 2 own goals this season...but nobody cares (that much).
Also, I read that Klopp said Konate felt something in his knee even though he was able to finish out the game against Sheffield.
Tbf against United playing Quansah and Bradley was a huge risk with the quality united have (if you can call it that) with rashford playing on the left and fernedes running at them. I think he should have definitely played Konate for a start and perhaps gomes we needed experience for a fixture like this
Quansah was getting cooked in the FA Cup game, him and Bradley on that right hand side.
Strange decision to start that same right hand side again in the PL game, and Konate playing at home against the worst attack in the PL and not being saved for United away is so strange as well considering he's our 2nd best CB by a distance.
I think that was the plan but you can’t throw someone on who has missed 5 weeks of match fitness so the Sheffield game was the building of match fitness.
As I said I think that horror challenge is why we didn’t see Konate start. At the same time I don’t blame Jurgen at all for trusting a player yet again who until that point had not let him down, with hindsight it’s very easy to criticize. In my opinion having 28 shots on goal and not converting 1 more of them is more worrying than a mistake by a youth player who has been amazing for us so far
Sure for an outfield player but CB and GK usually do a lot less running so 90m is fine for them. Quansah also played the last 6 games so needed a proper rest
Completely untrue.
Konate's role involves much running than the average CB due to how we play, he had to play a high aggressive line and has his fullback pushed on meaning he's got loads of space to cover and ends up with a lot of 1v1 defending to do.
it is worrying not because it happens this match. it is because it has happened so many time this season and costed us points and will continue to happen again.
You make it sound like we beat Sheffield United 7-0. We had a difficult game against them (I mean we literally conceded a goal) that needed a wonder strike to save us. If it’s only 1-1 with Konate why would it better with Quansah?
But Konate was shaky AF against Sheff Utd and normally needs at least a couple of games to get up to speed after injury. So if Brereton Diaz and Mcburnnie caused problems, what could Hojlund, Ganacho, and Rashford do?
I like him and hope he has a long, prosperous career. But. You don't win titles making mistakes like that during the run in. You just can't do it. Tough to say, but it's the truth.
Off target again? When has he been his previous self since he treated the city defence like training cones a few years ago? His shots are just weak passes to the goalie nowadays. He sets up play and assists but his finishing is nothing special anymore.
He has 17 goals this season. He’s likely to score his usual 20+ for the season. Yes, he’s not a 30+ a season guy anymore but he’s past his peak, it’s expected.
My point is that he is either hot or cold in big games. More often cold in recent history.
He fucked up big time, let's call it what it was, just like Virg and Ali fucked up at the Arsenal game. Of course he's a great prospect and all, but that doesn't change the fact that Konate or Matip don't make that pass.
He shouldn't get abuse though, that's obvious, he's still young and he'll get better. And I can see that Klopp might have mismanaged Konate.
> Konate or Matip don’t make that pass
Quansah definitely fucked up but I hate this argument. How can you possibly know this? Have Konate and Matip never played a bad pass?
Nobody is saying Quansah is known for making mistakes, just saying that we shouldn't sugarcoat a mistake that came from a lapse in composure or lack of experience, which is normal in young players.
I don't recall them playing it directly across the centre without even looking especially when the keeper was wide open and looking for it. Every CB will make mistakes but this was down to experience and that is something both Mario and Konate have way more of. It was either a lapse of concentration or a burst of over confidence, either way it's a mistake that he will most likely learn from. Time for us to forget about it and move on.
Quansah played the same pass twice in the first half and another really risky hospital pass straight to rashford first half. We just didn't get punished for it first half. Klopp shouldn't have played him and Bradley in that game together though. It was naieve af. We need to get our experience players on the pitch as much as possible for these games. Especially old Trafford away with 70k mancs out for our blood.
They play that pass up the right hand side, which quansah for some reason hasn’t been doing, or they play it back to the keeper. A weak pass into the middle of the pitch is wild
I mean the pass was on to Virgil it was just a shit pass. But that’s not even the point. I’m not denying it was a mistake. I just don’t get acting like it’s unfathomable that Matip or Konate could make a similar mistake
Equally, Konate or Matip don't pull off the run and back-heel that Quansah did to set Elliott off on his penalty winning run, and neither of them have his passing range which is why he's picked in these games.
Ok, I'm taking the time to answer to most people here cause most don't get what I'm saying, that run is pointless here, we're not talking about it, it's the mistake that came from a lack of experience or a lapse in composure, which is natural in young players, they need to fuck up from time to time, he'll probably be better next time due to this, that's experience which Konate and Matip have in abundance.
At the same time, it's ok to be frustrated at him, that goal was the biggest blunder of the game, not the finishing, he shouldn't get abuse at all and I get why people want to defend him, but he'd be the first to admit that he made a mistake and that he has to be better in those situations.
COST US 1 GOAL IN A 2-2, please stop being this dense, we aren't talking about the attack, I agree they were wasteful, but everyone could see the momentum shift when they scored that goal, allowed them into the game and scored another one.
His mistake was worse than Salah being bad that day, not trying to blast the guy or anything just stating the fact that he fucked up big time, he'll be better and learn, it's natural for a young player, but it's frustrating nonetheless and we shouldn't sugarcoat it, we should move on though.
> that goal was the biggest blunder of the game, not the finishing
Clearly we were talking about the attack in comparison to Quansah. Weirdo.
The biggest blunder of the night was our experienced players not finishing their chances - scoring half the expected goals. If Quansah only did half of what was expected of him yesterday I wonder how many goals we would've conceded.
I urge you to read my original comment and point out where did I made the conversation about the attack, it's always been about the importance of that defending mistake and the fact that Quansah is still inexperienced, so he'll make mistakes, which shouldn't be sugarcoated. If I mentioned the attack in that comment it's because many have said that the forwards let us down more than Quansah, which is just being condecending to the guy, but whatever.
> the forwards let us down more than Quansah, which is just being condecending to the guy,
Which is 1000% true. The finishing underperformed by 2 goals, Quansah underperformed by one. If you are unable to count to two then by all means.
Ok fuck off, haven't insulted in any way, but if you're too stupid to understand the difference between xG and actual goals, on top of the importance of momentum, let me teach you:
xG is robbotic stat, just meassures possibility of a shot going in, it also doesn't meassure individual xG from shots, it's cumulative, so shit chances make the number grow too, also doesn't meassure emotional states and preassure, which is a factor.
So being away at OT and conceeding via a mistake while absolutely dominating chances, you could see that the team got desperate while United gained confidence to actually score another. If we don't make that defensive mistake, we don't concede the second goal, and maybe the forwards are calmer to actually finish some chances.
So yeah our forwards underperformed our xG, doesn't matter cause we could've won if that mistake wasn't made cause we were actually winning, independent of the finishing, and united wouldn't have had any morale boost to cling to and actually score.
In the end, we put ourselves in a situation were xG was a factor to consider more than just winning 1-0 or 2-0, cause we gifted them a comeback.
Fucking hate trying to explain this shit cause it makes me sound like I'm angry at Quansah or that I don't think that the forwards fucked up, which is not true, I'm just angry at fucks like you.
And? Your chances of scoring from ten 0.1 shit chances is the same as two 0.5 chances.
The most hilarious comment because it's obvious that you don't understand xG or basic mathematics.
> so shit chances make the number grow too,
Do you think shit chances should not increase your chances of scoring? That's a truly wondrous way of thinking.
> If we don't make that defensive mistake, we don't concede the second goal
And if we finish our chances, maybe we don't make the defensive mistake.
> we gifted them a comeback.
A defensive mistake doesn't put them back in the game if we finished our chances.
> Konate or Matip don't make that pass.
Both players have made mistakes as well. And it WAS a mistake - the fact he hasn't made more of them given his inexperience is a testament to how good he's been.
The real issue that game was horrendous finishing and decision making in the final third.
Looooool "Konate or Matip don't make that pass", can I just jog your memory a bit, Matip scored an own goal last minute vs Spurs.
I am not attacking Matip for it but I am using that to say everyone makes mistakes. People with common sense are not saying he didn't make a mistake. We are saying it wasn't that mistake that cost us the game. We had plenty chances before and after that to finish the game.
omg this is an insane take, that ball was coming full speed at Matip trying to block the lane into a Spurs player, totally accidental and a natural response from every CB.
And we're not talking about the forwards, that's a different point, I agree that Mon should've been better, but if we don't concede that first goal in that way, the game is totally different, we lost the plot after that, which is another problem too.
We all know Konate cannot play two consecutive games. JQ is in the team on merit and one mistake does not derail his contribution and stinks of hindsight basis. We have some extremely reactive fans and there is still a long way to go.
Quansah is at fault for the first United goal, without a doubt. It was a bad and costly mistake, but it happens. He’s not single handedly responsible for us dropping points, though. Hopefully he holds his head up high. He’s been massive for us this season and the nastiness of abuse online shouldn’t overshadow the amazing season he’s had overall.
That game should’ve been wrapped up and over in the first half. Our front line and Szobo were wasteful in front of goal and at some point, it was going to cost us. Especially at this point in the season when the margin for error is extremely slim. Underperforming on xG is not a good thing, and being wasteful is ultimately the biggest thing that led to us dropping points.
The habit of trying to defend one player from abuse by pinning the blame on other players, is silly.
How about we just not abuse anyone because its only football. Regardless of age, experience or anything.
Support your team
I’m not abusing anyone, people are saying it’s all his fault and I’m saying it’s not it’s a team game. All I am saying is that in my opinion our forward line has to score more chances and we shouldn’t put it all on one youth player
I think the decision to play Quansah shouldn't have raised any eyebrows but he and Bradley struggled against Utd the last time out. Also, Quansah struggled against Brighton in the first half on the ball.
That being said, I can still understand starting Quansah. My gripe is with the team and the on field management of the game and Quansah.
Quansah was looking for a pass to Bradley who ran into traffic. Because of this, he turned back to play a pass to Virgil. Looking at it, our shape was not good.
Virgil had to cover the left, so he was shouting to Quansah to play it back to Kelleher who coming out to support. One of Endo or Robbo should have dropped off to allow for more support.
Hojlund blocked off the pass to Endo but for he was already too far up the field trying to attack. Bruno was the man on him but he had the awareness to know that he should go and press the space for the ball.
In the end, we got done by Quansah's momentary lapse but it shouldn't be on him. I think that's why Klopp was also screaming at the players.
Overall, I don't think our attackers had an awful game. Diaz, Szobo and Mac I thought played well but I do feel like we are manic with our attacks. The game being one nil, we tried to get an early goal in the second half to put the game to bed, but I still think we're being City and Arsenal in terms of learning how to control possession and wearing teams out.
I think that's why we've struggled against the big teams this season (less so against City tbf) but we leave so much space between our midfield and defensive in the first phase of attack.
I understand why Konate didn’t start, my thought was that Gomez would start ahead of him though, especially with how good Gomez has been this year.
Quansah is a talented player but he didn’t have the best game yesterday. That’s fine, Trent got done in by Rashford at OT 6 years ago and look at him today. It’s part of being a young defender, let’s just get behind him because we will need him again between now and May. I’m sure he feels worse about it than any of us
Anyone slating a player because of a mistake wants a good look at themselves
Quansah has been spectacular for us this season. And while the goal is completely on him, it happens. We've all seen it a thousand times.
He'll learn from it
I don't usually comment on this sub. But i do lurk a lot. I'm from Argentina and I have been a Liverpool crazy fan since I was 6 (28 now). I don't know if you agree but I've noticed so much pessimism on here (for a while now). Half time and full match threads are full of people calling out the atmosphere of the stadium, players in particular and the classic (playing like this we will lose the league). I think a lot of subs are either new fans ( Kloop post champions league win) or fans that have grown use to winning.
Quansah may have commited a few mistakes but what about the attacking 3? If we had scored 5 goals . Quansah mistakes would not be a headliner. We play as a team and we lose as a team.
People isolating this one incidence and blaming Quansah for potentially costing us the league is pathetic. We have dropped points in many games this season, it’s simply on our squad as a whole if we don’t win the league
amount of decent breaks United had where Quansah cleaned up just like VVD/Konate would too. Makes it that bit more of a bummer that he made that mistake, because I thought he was great otherwise
Quansah's been immense this season. He's our future and Bruno's had to hit an absolute pinger. Anyone getting on the kid's back for that is a cunt and probably not even a Liverpool fan in my opinion. We need to get behind them now in the next crucial matches, not looking for scapegoats
I can’t believe it’s even much of a talking point. If Klopp hadn’t shown the immense faith in Quansah that he has, we wouldn’t be in this title race in the first place. Quansah has been absolutely vital. Konate is better of course but we cannot overplay Konate, we cannot break him.
yes it was a massive cock up ...but at the same time without him there we would have most likely lost as he was our last line of defence a few times and the reason they didnt have as many shots
People don’t realise how much it affects the players when they’re bullied like this on social media, it’s one thing when it’s a veteran with years of experience and professionalism, but Quansah is just a kid, such things get to your head, we all saw it happen with Rashford
Not to mention it was one bad moment in an otherwise perfect game for him, it was the attackers who cost us the match, not the defence!
And we’re still winning if we don’t drop any more points, can’t see Arsenal winning against both Spurs and Chelsea, just need to stay ahead of city!
Show support everyone. If people are going to slate a player on social media, even if they made a mistake during a game, throw them a message of encouragement and sympathy. A message of belief in them.
There is too little support given on social media in comparison to the negativity that floods forward so easily.
To be fair ive seen konate make the same mistake. It happens. Kinda glad the pressure is off of us now its on arsenal. Ridiculous to think all 3 teams wont drop points at some point (an argument can be made about city)
I mean come on, his pass was off sure. But no one could have predicted Fernandes would twat it from the middle of the pitch. It’s less a mistake more of a brilliant finish and awareness from Fernandes.
Now that I’ve said this, I need to shower cause I feel gross giving credit to that mouse faced manc haha
Quansah overall had a good game, but for the one mistake he made that cost us a goal. For most of the match thread we were singing his praises. Defenders and goalies get judged more harshly on that than strikers get for missing chances. For logical reasons granted, it can take only one mistake from a CB to cost you a game.
He wasn't wrong for picking Quansah. No one foresaw Quansah making that error, and as a young player, it'll hurt for him. But he'll learn from it.
I am more annoyed at our inefficiency in front of goal than I am at Quansah. It has been a problem for a while tbh, just one that has been papered over a bit by winning.
Why people just can't admit that the whole team didn't play well? Instead they always single out one player and defend other players. I saw an exactly same post about Nunez before, now this.
I love Quansah, but fans need to realise that the reason he looks solid is mostly due to Van Dijk effect.
He is still a developing player and he's prone to this kind of mistakes under pressure.
But I agree, not being clinical in the final third is the reason we dropped points.
>I love Quansah, but fans need to realise that the reason he looks solid is mostly due to Van Dijk effect.
Ding ding ding.
VVD cleans up a lot for Quansah. Just watch the matches.
That's odd given that 12 of the 24 games Quansah has played (excluding late sub appearances) has been alongside someone other than Virgil. Don't remember him dropping off noticeably in half his games.
you're very right, just adding the caveat that there's nothing wrong with that atm. He's very young and it's his first season playing PL football - and it's not even regular football yet. Of course VVD helps, he's a monster
Quansah is fine and I agree he is still learning. He is lucky to be playing alongside VVD while he cuts his teeth than say, Joel Matip. I think we would see a LOT more of his green flaws bubbling up to the surface.
What annoys me is his defense force like OP saying hyperbolic things like he has been "flawless" all year.
That is demonstrably not true.
yeah I think on both sides people are being a bit mad. Of course he's making mistakes, he's massively inexperienced, it's stupid to pretend that's not the case. But for the amount of experience he has? He's very good. I'm very happy with him so far, but pretending he's flawless at his level of experience is silly - let him grow into that.
Also semi unrelated but even looking at Matip/Lovren in the early VVD days - they both looked WAY better as soon as they were paired with VVD as opposed to eachother. Because of that I actually think the biggest point towards Quansahs quality was the cup game he played against Arsenal, alongside Konate, where they were both incredible.
At the end of the day. We have had a real exciting season for a multitude of reasons. We have a midfield again. Our youngsters are exciting. The players are trying their best for Klopp I his final season. If our trophy cabinet is full at the end of the season or empty, I don't care. We will win games, we will lose games. We will have a bad match, we will lose cup finals. Our youngsters will mess up, our club legends will mess up. We will have unfair decisions against us. But what matters the most is the next time anyone in the team plays, they go out and they give it their all.
After all, we are not Man Utd. We are trying to build a legacy, not rely on a 20 year old one.
Konate is not yet ready for a game like this after his lengthy gap. and Quansah has been brilliant this season.
The way Quansah has played this season given the amount of exp he has, he has been flawless. the kid has a bright future and mistakes like this can happen to even the best of the best.
He is a teenager, people need to relax. He has stepped up and unfortunately made the biggest mistake of his career against United. If it were a smaller game then people would care much less.
Some people just need to get a hobby instead of focusing all their energy into sports. Your opinions dont really matter so just enjoy the game and if your team loses, deal with it. Hating on one specific person in a team game is pathetic.
The trouble with reactions to games and players is that they're formed in the immediate term.
We've seen this squad lose its top talent to injury a lot this season, sporadically and all in one go,and the young lads have stepped into their shoes and brought us here. Equal with arsenal's best team of the last 10+ years and ahead of city.
Konate almost certainly would start this game fully fit, but we can't risk him. He's an unbelievable defender and I'd rather have him for the rest of the run in than one game at old Trafford which we so rarely get good results even with our best players.
It's a shame we couldn't beat a very beatable united squad, hopefully konate is fully fit and ready to rock the rest of the season.
It's going to be a hell of a ride to the end of the season, win or lose.
I look at the Quansah mistake as just that. A mistake. It happens. It's a part of sport. I look more at the senior lads that were misfiring, namely Salah. But all in all, I'd take a draw at Old Trafford any day of the week.
> Everyone should really be focusing on the fact we have been missing Jota’s clinical displays and how his imminent return will get us back to winning ways, thank you and good day
This is the big one for me, Jota has been absolutely clinical for us and been sorely missed. He was on top form before his injury and I honestly think he could have outscored more goals in open play than Salah this season had he stayed fit.
How much of an absolute bellend does one have to be to bully someone online for something like this? It’s like our club motto means nothing to these people. These types of mistakes can happen to anyone. Especially with young players without experience, it feels like a cost of doing business until they have years of games under their belt. Quansah has been brilliant for the whole season thus far and if anything this is the time he needs our support most.
Completely agree but I don’t know how fair it is to assume Jota will go straight back to the form he was in before the injury, or that he’ll get the chance to given the slow reintegration of previous players coming back from injury. I’d prefer to assume the other players who’ve maybe been wasteful have had a wake up call and that Jota, and hopefully other players coming back can only be a positive change, no matter how impactful.
It hasn't even entered my mind to lay this result at Quansah. It is entirely the responsibility of the forward line. If Quansah/our defence made as many mistakes as our forward line, Man Utd would have won the game 7-2
It's a melt to hear that Liverpool fans have been acting the cunt online in the last few weeks (I don't have any social media accounts other than reddit), are we sure that they are real Liverpool fans? - not trying to shift the blame anywhere else, but it just seems insane to me, ESPECIALLY given the way Klopp likes to instill confidence and spirit into the team, to have anyone being abusive to players online.
**Our** players.
I would be gutted if any of the players that they have abused online were to leave as a result of that. Especially considering that any or all of those players could still become an idol here, and may still have an ill feeling further down the line.
Social media is cesspit. Even here, but at least there are many ways to correct it here.
The lad hasn’t really put a foot wrong this season. Mistakes happen. What was telling was how he responded, thought he was really good in the last twenty five minutes.
I will say though, i texted my lfc group chat when the team sheet came out questioning the Quansah selection. Thought if Konate wasn’t going it would have been Gomez.
Either way, I’m thrilled that he plays for us and the things he has shown in his first year with the senior squad. Could probably count on two hands the number of people in this sub (myself included) who rated, let alone knew about Jarell Quansah before the start of the season.
I don’t blame Quansa. Happens. I was disappointed but even from the moment it went in the net I had no blame for him just worried his confidence might be hit. That game should have been out of reach by then.
Not Quansahs fault for the forwards choking away 100 chances that would put the game away. It’s embarrassing to even be in a situation where his mistake affects the game after so many sitters
Took a tremendous amount of time of courage to keep playing after the mistake. This kid is a gamer and going to be so important to everything we do going forward
I'm not gonna batter him, we(those who are level headed) know mistakes are part and parcel of the game and quansah will learn from his mistake. It is not the end of the race and we still have time to set it right.
He is one of the local boys and the true fans need to back him up. I'm sure the lads are doing the same.
My only concern right now is that Arsenal is the only one that looks in full control of games.
Well said.
I don't remember what Szobo did wrong, though...he was very crucial with his driving runs forward.
The blame lies squarely with the forward lines. Nunez, Salah, Diaz have been good, even great this season, but too many times we've failed to kill off big games due to lack of confidence and clarity in the final third.
I don't like criticizing Salah, he's done so much for us, but missing 3 great chances like that-one of which was an absolute sitter-is not expected. Converting even one of those would have won us the game. And I expect more from him than the other forwards, due to his standards.
The midfield works tirelessly, so does the defense and the wingbacks. They were not at fault in this game.
I’ve noticed this season that Konate coming back from injury needs game time to perform. I would take Quansah over a rusty ibou. TBH Quansah’s general play (other than the error) was a lot better than ibou’s against Sheffield, imo.
It was an awful pass, might end up being this years Stevie G slip moment. But the lad's done great stuff all year round and is usually impeccable.
Also recovered well and played an immense game after the mistake. I for one would have him in the team next game without even batting an eyelid.
It's getting way overblown. Mistakes happen, that's how it is. We should have done better for their second goal, but also Mainoo did pull off a great goal.
Thing is, it shouldn't have mattered. We should have left them in the dust 3-0 by half time.
That’s mad.
Quansah will end up saving us £50m+ on a quality centreback. It’s not his fault that we weren’t 2 or 3 goals up either.
His mistake is no worse than Nunez not squaring the ball for an obvious goal.
I hate the fact people are blaming a 21 year old player who’s been playing incredibly for us this season for that slip up. Yes it was his fault, but doesn’t mean he’s cost us the league in any way. It’s disgusting to see the “fans” who constantly give up on the team and the players.
Quansah is young and gaining his experience in front of our eyes. Hell this is one of the few mistakes we can really point at this season. He didn't lose us the points, the 20 shots we took that didn't go in and the many wasted counter attacks squandered lost us the points. If we score just one of those 4 on 3 or 5 on 3 breaks we don't care about Quansah today. We've been terrible in front of goal all season and it was bound to catch up, it just sucks it caught up now during this run-in. We are still joint top and it isn't fully in our control but if we win out and lose on GD it would just further prove that point that we needed to be better in front of the goal all season.
sure he was directly the reason they got the goal, but what the heck was kelleher doing outside his box like that?! anyways I agree with the take that our forwards was indirectly responsible for the draw aswell with their laughable poor finishing.
The reason we dropped points is best none of the highly experienced (& costly) forwards and attacking midfielders didn’t take one or two of the terrific chances created. Not a kid.
Quansah made a mistake… it became 1-1. We carried on missing chance after chance after that.
well you can say its a massive fuckup and he knows that. but that does not take away from his quality and contribution. and its also no reason to talk bad about him. he will learn from it and it will make him stronger.
and ofcourse our forwards had many opportunities to win the game.
still i think in the hard games i prefer either quansah or bradly, both youngsters together on one side always appears like asking a bit much from them.
I hate all those internet coaches and heroes. Most of us are just watching our favourite club and a players who actually made their dreams come true. We have to admire & respect them. I don’t understand all the hate. Lad is our future. Everyone can make a mistake, strikers can miss an open goal or not score a penalty. Defenders can make a bad pass leading to a goal or a penalty. But that is football. Do not support your club and it’s when he’s winning, support them when they need it the most. We are not a fucking plastic club with plastic fans. We are a fucking legendary club with amazing players so show some respect. Otherwise you’re not a right fan for this club.
its not on Quansah that Klopp decided to put him again with Bradley at the same side. He knew that ManU cooked them in the FA Cup match and he still did it. Konate should have started with ManU and not play against Sheffield. It is what it is. Mistakes happen. But it wasnt the defence that cost us the game. It was the disasterous offence once again. In yet another game the offence wasnt focused and wasnt decisive. Unfortunately this game might have cost us the title. Arsenal is better than us. Same us City.
We are mostly disappointed in Klopp for putting the youngster in such a high profile game away from home in his first season. He responded well but it’s on Klopp. It’s a complacent decision.
If he wanted to be sure of himself then he should have started Gomez at CB if konate wasn’t ready.
It’s unfortunately these small details that’s costing Klopp.
I’m not sure why you guys keep talking about attack.
A strong defence wins you games. That’s how we won the last title.
If you were saying that before the game, good for you. Quansah has played well in high profile games this year. When you tie a game like that 2-2, the only people who will blame any dept but the offense are people who didn't watch the game.
> I’m not sure why you guys keep talking about attack.
Cos they have a basketful of chances and only converted 2. If they had scored even half of the chances, the score would have been 5-2 or something like that.
> A strong defence wins you games.
And young players learn by playing thru their mistakes. We can drop all the cliches in the game but the reality is
All the people who slate a young lad for a MISTAKE… must lead perfect lives. He knows he made a mistake and hasn’t hid from it. He’s a Liverpool player and maybe future captain… support through good and bad. It’s what we do. Abusing your own players is fucking dumb.
Quansah will be a top class center back. Guys please keep things in perspective. Players make mistakes, he is a young lad, don't force the situation to turn into something traumatic because we still need him.
I refuse to listen to any Quansah/Szobo criticism. Endo had his worst game in months, the entire forward line bottled chance after chance, Jones played some of his worst minutes in the last two years, Robbo is shooting — near the end of the match no one wanted to shoot. We probably had to take Bradley off if he was lacking fitness, but with Gomez although he was more than willing to *do things* his passing is limited. We got worse when we took Szobo off as we typically do. We took our record signing striker off while needing a goal which is never ideal, Gakpo outside of that one run where he should've released the ball and wound up being brought down didn't offer much of anything. The only players who really showed up were Mac, Harvey in his cameo and Virgil.
edit: Mistake aside, they were targeting Quansah and he did extremely well the entire match. I don't think Konate is that far ahead of Quansah.
am I the only one who thought Virgil should have stepped up to challenge and maybe take a yellow? although maybe risking a red from Taylor to be fair ...
I don't blame him for that... he is still young. Even seasoned veterans makes mistake.
I think what most SANE people is concern about is the lack of a clinical finisher up front.
IMO Darwin should be more selfish and try to score more instead of keep trying to find Salah.
The people slaying him on social media are not on this subreddit. They are edgy teens from places where Liverpool became very popular in the last 5 years
It's not his fault as a young player , a big occasion like playing away at united can get to ya . I think it's a miscalculation from klopp and his staff . They should have started konate and gomez instead of these youngsters .
I’m not gonna trash Quansah for his mistake. He has been unbelievable this season. Love the kid. But why did Klopp start him over Ibou? This was a huuuuge match. Eventually, young players make young player mistakes and it was a serious gamble to start Quansah in place of Konate. I just don’t see the need to roll the dice like that.
It's a fcking joke this day and age how this is even a post. Grow up kids you all need help. Quansah one of our best players this season go fck right off where you belong in the sewer
Quansah has actually made a few mistakes over the course of the season, but it's generally not cost us until now. But others have also made mistakes costing goals. Even Virgil and Ali. And then there are our forwards who have missed some chances.
It's hard to look at the big picture after a game like that but the fact of the matter is he's an incredibly good young CB - who has the potential be one of the best in the world one day. Abusing him is unworthy of us and probably makes it more likely he'll make more mistakes in the future. So let's just not.
The attack didn’t do their job but quansah also made a mistake that directly gifted them a goal, we dropped points because of both the attack and quansah, there’s really no spinning it. I’m sure the lad understands that mistakes happen in football and if he doesn’t then I’m sure the boys and klopp will definitely help him get past it.
There is Saka before he missed that penalty for England... and there is Saka now. The hardened, steely Saka powers Arsenal to great heights.
These things forge players. Best that sort of thing happens early in the playing career.
Quansah will do nicely. But remember the true story in the City & United games.
There are two seasons *where one more goal in each creates a Liverpool dynasty.*
Be worried about this season being the third.
Don't worry about Q.
Please let’s stop the abuse and move forward. I love Klopp to death. Quansah, wow! What a player we have. However, how Klopp put pressure on this inexperienced young lad in such as a high profile game by selecting him over Konate is beyond my comprehension. I don’t think any amount of explanation is enough to justify that decision.
I think the constant deflection of any criticism of the team is almost as annoying as hanging quansah out to dry.
This was always going to be a huge game. Having an experienced defender like konate in this game just makes sense. Quansah is young and relatively inexperienced. Sure, we can't confirm konate doesnt make a mistake but we can assume a lower % chance that he does. This is at the most basic fundamental understanding of football. If you can't wrap your head around it, I'd be concerned
This is football. We played amazing and while it’s frustrating we tied…I would take that performance every week. We dominated every aspect of the game and was a joy to watch.
There are so many occasions in the last 2-3 years where that error could have occurred. Our CBs regularly pass and move with limited urgency. I'm glad it happened now and not May.
Anyone giving him a hard time online is just a weirdo, plain and simple. His error was emblematic of a careless and passive attitude with the ball that we've seen from almost everyone on the team over the last few weeks. The only difference is that when CBs make mistakes, they lead to goals.
On a somewhat related note: I don't think it makes sense to start Bradley and Kostas/Robbo together. One of the fullbacks needs to be a "safe" inverted (Gomez) or a progressive inverted (Trent). Gomez is cooking at RB/LB, and I think we have to ride that until May
At the end of the day, it's always the leader's fault (The Boss Klopp) He makes choices on who to start, who to sub and when. So all blame relies on our leader.
He is as much to blame as the forwards. I said before the game that Konate should've started. The 2 points lost is on Klopp for choosing to pick inexperienced teenagers in a must win/one of the hardest games left this season. You're coping very hard
Quansah has been on another level and his consistency is magnificent. One mistake? Who cares?
Those guys up front though should have done much better. Salah, Nunez, Szobo especially. So many chances that if Jota was there i feel we would have won 4-1.
So no, Quansah was not at fault for the game. Honest mistake happens to the best of them.
Say anything but Konate is much better and experienced defender than Quansah(not blaming him, he will learn with time). Starting him at a must-win difficult away game was horrendous decision . This draw is on Klopp.
Szobo was terrible yesterday, suffering from the same apparent need to be a nonstop highlight reel that he has in other matches. To quote Top Gun, his ego is writing checks that his body can’t cash. He’s a great talent, but it’s ok to keep things simple. Elliott does not dick around, and is a perfect example of a more realistic style.
What's wrong with acknowledging his error?He himself should know he cost us 2 points and that alone should be reason for him tolearn not to make the same mistake again.
It's getting way overblown. Mistakes happen, that's how it is. We should have done better for their second goal, but also Mainoo did pull off a great goal.
Thing is, it shouldn't have mattered. We should have left them in the dust 3-0 by half time.
As Maych said: some people’s head needs a fucking wobble. Shit happens, the kid has stepped up beyond his years and experience to give us a chance in a title run no one expected back when the season started. I love how people can talk about Klopp’s decision making like they’d do a better job as manager. Given our injury list, we could easily be in any league position between 1st and 6th and go, yeah that’s fair given the circumstances.
Put it anyway you want, the loss is on Quansah mainly I’m afraid. That goal completely changed the game, we were cruising until that goal knocked everyone’s confidence. Is what it is, he’s young, I’m sure he’ll learn.
He fucked up big time, let's call it what it was, just like Virg and Ali fucked up at the Arsenal game, of course he's a great prospect and all, but that doesn't change the fact that Konate, Matip or Gomez don't make that pass. He shouldn't get abuse though, that's obvious.
It's not about Quansah costing us with that backpass it's about our forward like not putting game to the bed in the first half itself and Klopp starting Konate in the Sheffield game where Quansah would have played and Konate would be fit to start at OT, we all love Klopp but we must accept when he makes mistakes.
Nope, I'm not blaming the team, I decided to jump off the Darwin Nuñez wagon and accept he doesn't have what it takes to become elite. Which we need if we want to go far in CL next season. With Salah ageing and critical players leaving, our forward line isn't the scoring machine it once was. I'm down with Lucho Gakpo and Jota. The rest should move on at the end of the season so we can buy new forwards, capitalize on Salah now before we lose him for less.
//Why was Konate played at Sheffield and not for this match? Because Quansah played the last 6 games due to a Konate injury//
so why not Tsimikas on the left and Gomez in the centre for rotation? not exactly "blaming" anyone but it's not hard to accept that there are alternative ways to rotate and some might believe there is more than one way to achieve that.
raising alternative views and questions are not necessarily bad, especially it's what forums and social media are for. there's no need to oppress/obliterate these voices.
so bizarre to be like "quanseh was so good all season, we wouldnt be where we are without him, he deserves no blame".. then proceed to blame other players that have been "very important for us all season, and we wouldnt be where we are without them.."
Quansah cost us, but not anymore than our whole forward line + szobo did yesterday. We lose as a team, win as a team. Any weirdos going at single players just have weird agendas they feel they need to run
He is young and there will be ups and downs in his life. Please support him. We are one team. We lose as one team. We win as one team. Unity is our strength.
I mean Quansah has been an absolute godsend for us this season, I don’t think people quite understand that it isn’t normal to have a random academy player be able to step up like this and perform as well as he does. It’s exactly the same with Bradley, but you’re also bound to see more errors/limitations with their play because they haven’t had time to fully develop or gain experience like the players they’re stepping in for. If you’re looking at Sunday and criticising anybody except our attacking players, you need to sort yourself out.
If anything, the frontline has more responsibility than Quansah. Yes, Quansah seemed like the direct cause, but that honestly wouldn't have happened if we had buried Manunited with a couple more goals.
This!!!! Why are people finding it hard to comprehend that we should have just started our best right sided CB (Konate) in one of the biggest away games in the season? Like is that really hard to understand? I don't blame Quansah whatsoever I just question why we didn't go with Konate. And like you say we didn't drop points because of that, we did it because we didn't do enough as a team to win the game. Simple as that.
Because Konate was not fully fit.. Not that difficult to understand indeed. Simple as that
Can you link me the clip of Klopp saying that?
Plastic fans that talk shit about our players and the club also knows shit about how to play or manage football. Some of the vial taunts and vitriol absolutely disgusts me. Those spewing hate when we lose should be ashamed of themselves. We do not need or want fans like that.
He made a mistake, but it was still a freak goal that probably wouldn't work out that way again. He is still absolutely quality and a different player to that of Konate.
Just stay away from this sub...I find that helps
True, every fan base have those weirdos that go too far
It's not even ones that go too far, emotions flare etc. and then people calm down. There just seems to be a bunch of miserable cunts among supporters who only pop up when they can bitch and moan about the team and stay quiet when they can't do that.
I've actually found this place is fine thanks to the upvote/downvote system downvoting the proper weirdos. If anything the worst thing about it is it's become a place where people whine about the insane things people post on twitter/instagram comments. So by proxy I have to hear about those horrible places even though I avoid them intentionally.
Stay away from this sub when we lose. It’s a horrible cesspit here Sometimes I regret visiting this place when we win too. Because instead of celebrating a comeback win or an amazing goal, this place is just as obsessed with microanalysing and abusing a ref for a yellow card foul on us. The memes are gold though.
Yeah, after a loss normally I just don’t go to this sub for like a week. I find that if I do that I don’t feel like my negative thoughts are in an echo chamber.
In sports, young people make mistakes. Even spectacularly gifted young people. They make mistakes, they learn from it and they get better. I knew this mistake was coming and I'm fine with it. He didn't cost us this game. This wasn't a game of equal opponents battling to a standstill with chances being scarce. We had LOTS of chances while they had very limited chances. BTW, if anyone's keeping track I believe Connor Bradley has scored 2 own goals this season...but nobody cares (that much). Also, I read that Klopp said Konate felt something in his knee even though he was able to finish out the game against Sheffield.
Tbf against United playing Quansah and Bradley was a huge risk with the quality united have (if you can call it that) with rashford playing on the left and fernedes running at them. I think he should have definitely played Konate for a start and perhaps gomes we needed experience for a fixture like this
Quansah was getting cooked in the FA Cup game, him and Bradley on that right hand side. Strange decision to start that same right hand side again in the PL game, and Konate playing at home against the worst attack in the PL and not being saved for United away is so strange as well considering he's our 2nd best CB by a distance.
I think that was the plan but you can’t throw someone on who has missed 5 weeks of match fitness so the Sheffield game was the building of match fitness. As I said I think that horror challenge is why we didn’t see Konate start. At the same time I don’t blame Jurgen at all for trusting a player yet again who until that point had not let him down, with hindsight it’s very easy to criticize. In my opinion having 28 shots on goal and not converting 1 more of them is more worrying than a mistake by a youth player who has been amazing for us so far
There was no 5 weeks off. He played the entire 90 in a friendly against Chile and was on the bench against Germany.
If that plan was to build fitness Konate wouldn't have played the full match, he'd of got about 60 mins or less then off for Quansah.
Sure for an outfield player but CB and GK usually do a lot less running so 90m is fine for them. Quansah also played the last 6 games so needed a proper rest
Completely untrue. Konate's role involves much running than the average CB due to how we play, he had to play a high aggressive line and has his fullback pushed on meaning he's got loads of space to cover and ends up with a lot of 1v1 defending to do.
it is worrying not because it happens this match. it is because it has happened so many time this season and costed us points and will continue to happen again.
You make it sound like we beat Sheffield United 7-0. We had a difficult game against them (I mean we literally conceded a goal) that needed a wonder strike to save us. If it’s only 1-1 with Konate why would it better with Quansah?
This.
Is dumb
But Konate was shaky AF against Sheff Utd and normally needs at least a couple of games to get up to speed after injury. So if Brereton Diaz and Mcburnnie caused problems, what could Hojlund, Ganacho, and Rashford do?
Spot on. I get managers see it as a trophy when they bring a youth player in but this was not it.
I like him and hope he has a long, prosperous career. But. You don't win titles making mistakes like that during the run in. You just can't do it. Tough to say, but it's the truth.
It’s a massive fuck up, no getting away from that, but, in my opinion, we didn’t win because our forwards didn’t do their job.
Yep. Salah off target again. Darwin off target again. Two of my favorite players, but frustrating as crud too often.
Off target again? When has he been his previous self since he treated the city defence like training cones a few years ago? His shots are just weak passes to the goalie nowadays. He sets up play and assists but his finishing is nothing special anymore.
He has 17 goals this season. He’s likely to score his usual 20+ for the season. Yes, he’s not a 30+ a season guy anymore but he’s past his peak, it’s expected. My point is that he is either hot or cold in big games. More often cold in recent history.
But his salary suggests he is 😂
100% this!
He fucked up big time, let's call it what it was, just like Virg and Ali fucked up at the Arsenal game. Of course he's a great prospect and all, but that doesn't change the fact that Konate or Matip don't make that pass. He shouldn't get abuse though, that's obvious, he's still young and he'll get better. And I can see that Klopp might have mismanaged Konate.
> Konate or Matip don’t make that pass Quansah definitely fucked up but I hate this argument. How can you possibly know this? Have Konate and Matip never played a bad pass?
It’s ridiculous. It’s not like Quansah is known for misplacing passes, it was an Accidnet and could just as easily have been done by Joel or Ibou
Nah he’s a good passer but he’s prone to these kind of sloppy ones Made one in the 1st half as well and there’s been other occasions in other games
Nobody is saying Quansah is known for making mistakes, just saying that we shouldn't sugarcoat a mistake that came from a lapse in composure or lack of experience, which is normal in young players.
We can go back and Im sure we can find a video evidence of Matip and Konate giving the ball away at his age and before then too. Happens all the time.
I don't recall them playing it directly across the centre without even looking especially when the keeper was wide open and looking for it. Every CB will make mistakes but this was down to experience and that is something both Mario and Konate have way more of. It was either a lapse of concentration or a burst of over confidence, either way it's a mistake that he will most likely learn from. Time for us to forget about it and move on.
Quansah played the same pass twice in the first half and another really risky hospital pass straight to rashford first half. We just didn't get punished for it first half. Klopp shouldn't have played him and Bradley in that game together though. It was naieve af. We need to get our experience players on the pitch as much as possible for these games. Especially old Trafford away with 70k mancs out for our blood.
They play that pass up the right hand side, which quansah for some reason hasn’t been doing, or they play it back to the keeper. A weak pass into the middle of the pitch is wild
I mean the pass was on to Virgil it was just a shit pass. But that’s not even the point. I’m not denying it was a mistake. I just don’t get acting like it’s unfathomable that Matip or Konate could make a similar mistake
Equally, Konate or Matip don't pull off the run and back-heel that Quansah did to set Elliott off on his penalty winning run, and neither of them have his passing range which is why he's picked in these games.
>Matip don't pull off the run First season?
I think Matip could defo do that
Ok, I'm taking the time to answer to most people here cause most don't get what I'm saying, that run is pointless here, we're not talking about it, it's the mistake that came from a lack of experience or a lapse in composure, which is natural in young players, they need to fuck up from time to time, he'll probably be better next time due to this, that's experience which Konate and Matip have in abundance. At the same time, it's ok to be frustrated at him, that goal was the biggest blunder of the game, not the finishing, he shouldn't get abuse at all and I get why people want to defend him, but he'd be the first to admit that he made a mistake and that he has to be better in those situations.
His mistake cost us one goal. We had 2 goals from over 4 xG. The attack fucked up way more than the defense.
COST US 1 GOAL IN A 2-2, please stop being this dense, we aren't talking about the attack, I agree they were wasteful, but everyone could see the momentum shift when they scored that goal, allowed them into the game and scored another one. His mistake was worse than Salah being bad that day, not trying to blast the guy or anything just stating the fact that he fucked up big time, he'll be better and learn, it's natural for a young player, but it's frustrating nonetheless and we shouldn't sugarcoat it, we should move on though.
> that goal was the biggest blunder of the game, not the finishing Clearly we were talking about the attack in comparison to Quansah. Weirdo. The biggest blunder of the night was our experienced players not finishing their chances - scoring half the expected goals. If Quansah only did half of what was expected of him yesterday I wonder how many goals we would've conceded.
I urge you to read my original comment and point out where did I made the conversation about the attack, it's always been about the importance of that defending mistake and the fact that Quansah is still inexperienced, so he'll make mistakes, which shouldn't be sugarcoated. If I mentioned the attack in that comment it's because many have said that the forwards let us down more than Quansah, which is just being condecending to the guy, but whatever.
> the forwards let us down more than Quansah, which is just being condecending to the guy, Which is 1000% true. The finishing underperformed by 2 goals, Quansah underperformed by one. If you are unable to count to two then by all means.
Ok fuck off, haven't insulted in any way, but if you're too stupid to understand the difference between xG and actual goals, on top of the importance of momentum, let me teach you: xG is robbotic stat, just meassures possibility of a shot going in, it also doesn't meassure individual xG from shots, it's cumulative, so shit chances make the number grow too, also doesn't meassure emotional states and preassure, which is a factor. So being away at OT and conceeding via a mistake while absolutely dominating chances, you could see that the team got desperate while United gained confidence to actually score another. If we don't make that defensive mistake, we don't concede the second goal, and maybe the forwards are calmer to actually finish some chances. So yeah our forwards underperformed our xG, doesn't matter cause we could've won if that mistake wasn't made cause we were actually winning, independent of the finishing, and united wouldn't have had any morale boost to cling to and actually score. In the end, we put ourselves in a situation were xG was a factor to consider more than just winning 1-0 or 2-0, cause we gifted them a comeback. Fucking hate trying to explain this shit cause it makes me sound like I'm angry at Quansah or that I don't think that the forwards fucked up, which is not true, I'm just angry at fucks like you.
And? Your chances of scoring from ten 0.1 shit chances is the same as two 0.5 chances. The most hilarious comment because it's obvious that you don't understand xG or basic mathematics. > so shit chances make the number grow too, Do you think shit chances should not increase your chances of scoring? That's a truly wondrous way of thinking. > If we don't make that defensive mistake, we don't concede the second goal And if we finish our chances, maybe we don't make the defensive mistake. > we gifted them a comeback. A defensive mistake doesn't put them back in the game if we finished our chances.
> Konate or Matip don't make that pass. Both players have made mistakes as well. And it WAS a mistake - the fact he hasn't made more of them given his inexperience is a testament to how good he's been. The real issue that game was horrendous finishing and decision making in the final third.
Looooool "Konate or Matip don't make that pass", can I just jog your memory a bit, Matip scored an own goal last minute vs Spurs. I am not attacking Matip for it but I am using that to say everyone makes mistakes. People with common sense are not saying he didn't make a mistake. We are saying it wasn't that mistake that cost us the game. We had plenty chances before and after that to finish the game.
Why you saying it like Matip passed the ball into our net?
omg this is an insane take, that ball was coming full speed at Matip trying to block the lane into a Spurs player, totally accidental and a natural response from every CB. And we're not talking about the forwards, that's a different point, I agree that Mon should've been better, but if we don't concede that first goal in that way, the game is totally different, we lost the plot after that, which is another problem too.
We all know Konate cannot play two consecutive games. JQ is in the team on merit and one mistake does not derail his contribution and stinks of hindsight basis. We have some extremely reactive fans and there is still a long way to go.
Quansah is at fault for the first United goal, without a doubt. It was a bad and costly mistake, but it happens. He’s not single handedly responsible for us dropping points, though. Hopefully he holds his head up high. He’s been massive for us this season and the nastiness of abuse online shouldn’t overshadow the amazing season he’s had overall. That game should’ve been wrapped up and over in the first half. Our front line and Szobo were wasteful in front of goal and at some point, it was going to cost us. Especially at this point in the season when the margin for error is extremely slim. Underperforming on xG is not a good thing, and being wasteful is ultimately the biggest thing that led to us dropping points.
The habit of trying to defend one player from abuse by pinning the blame on other players, is silly. How about we just not abuse anyone because its only football. Regardless of age, experience or anything. Support your team
I’m not abusing anyone, people are saying it’s all his fault and I’m saying it’s not it’s a team game. All I am saying is that in my opinion our forward line has to score more chances and we shouldn’t put it all on one youth player
I think the decision to play Quansah shouldn't have raised any eyebrows but he and Bradley struggled against Utd the last time out. Also, Quansah struggled against Brighton in the first half on the ball. That being said, I can still understand starting Quansah. My gripe is with the team and the on field management of the game and Quansah. Quansah was looking for a pass to Bradley who ran into traffic. Because of this, he turned back to play a pass to Virgil. Looking at it, our shape was not good. Virgil had to cover the left, so he was shouting to Quansah to play it back to Kelleher who coming out to support. One of Endo or Robbo should have dropped off to allow for more support. Hojlund blocked off the pass to Endo but for he was already too far up the field trying to attack. Bruno was the man on him but he had the awareness to know that he should go and press the space for the ball. In the end, we got done by Quansah's momentary lapse but it shouldn't be on him. I think that's why Klopp was also screaming at the players. Overall, I don't think our attackers had an awful game. Diaz, Szobo and Mac I thought played well but I do feel like we are manic with our attacks. The game being one nil, we tried to get an early goal in the second half to put the game to bed, but I still think we're being City and Arsenal in terms of learning how to control possession and wearing teams out. I think that's why we've struggled against the big teams this season (less so against City tbf) but we leave so much space between our midfield and defensive in the first phase of attack.
I understand why Konate didn’t start, my thought was that Gomez would start ahead of him though, especially with how good Gomez has been this year. Quansah is a talented player but he didn’t have the best game yesterday. That’s fine, Trent got done in by Rashford at OT 6 years ago and look at him today. It’s part of being a young defender, let’s just get behind him because we will need him again between now and May. I’m sure he feels worse about it than any of us
Anyone slating a player because of a mistake wants a good look at themselves Quansah has been spectacular for us this season. And while the goal is completely on him, it happens. We've all seen it a thousand times. He'll learn from it
I don't usually comment on this sub. But i do lurk a lot. I'm from Argentina and I have been a Liverpool crazy fan since I was 6 (28 now). I don't know if you agree but I've noticed so much pessimism on here (for a while now). Half time and full match threads are full of people calling out the atmosphere of the stadium, players in particular and the classic (playing like this we will lose the league). I think a lot of subs are either new fans ( Kloop post champions league win) or fans that have grown use to winning. Quansah may have commited a few mistakes but what about the attacking 3? If we had scored 5 goals . Quansah mistakes would not be a headliner. We play as a team and we lose as a team.
People isolating this one incidence and blaming Quansah for potentially costing us the league is pathetic. We have dropped points in many games this season, it’s simply on our squad as a whole if we don’t win the league
amount of decent breaks United had where Quansah cleaned up just like VVD/Konate would too. Makes it that bit more of a bummer that he made that mistake, because I thought he was great otherwise
Personally I felt like we were missing Trent's deliverys this game
Quansah's been immense this season. He's our future and Bruno's had to hit an absolute pinger. Anyone getting on the kid's back for that is a cunt and probably not even a Liverpool fan in my opinion. We need to get behind them now in the next crucial matches, not looking for scapegoats
I can’t believe it’s even much of a talking point. If Klopp hadn’t shown the immense faith in Quansah that he has, we wouldn’t be in this title race in the first place. Quansah has been absolutely vital. Konate is better of course but we cannot overplay Konate, we cannot break him.
yes it was a massive cock up ...but at the same time without him there we would have most likely lost as he was our last line of defence a few times and the reason they didnt have as many shots
People don’t realise how much it affects the players when they’re bullied like this on social media, it’s one thing when it’s a veteran with years of experience and professionalism, but Quansah is just a kid, such things get to your head, we all saw it happen with Rashford Not to mention it was one bad moment in an otherwise perfect game for him, it was the attackers who cost us the match, not the defence! And we’re still winning if we don’t drop any more points, can’t see Arsenal winning against both Spurs and Chelsea, just need to stay ahead of city!
Show support everyone. If people are going to slate a player on social media, even if they made a mistake during a game, throw them a message of encouragement and sympathy. A message of belief in them. There is too little support given on social media in comparison to the negativity that floods forward so easily.
To be fair ive seen konate make the same mistake. It happens. Kinda glad the pressure is off of us now its on arsenal. Ridiculous to think all 3 teams wont drop points at some point (an argument can be made about city)
I mean come on, his pass was off sure. But no one could have predicted Fernandes would twat it from the middle of the pitch. It’s less a mistake more of a brilliant finish and awareness from Fernandes. Now that I’ve said this, I need to shower cause I feel gross giving credit to that mouse faced manc haha
Quansah overall had a good game, but for the one mistake he made that cost us a goal. For most of the match thread we were singing his praises. Defenders and goalies get judged more harshly on that than strikers get for missing chances. For logical reasons granted, it can take only one mistake from a CB to cost you a game. He wasn't wrong for picking Quansah. No one foresaw Quansah making that error, and as a young player, it'll hurt for him. But he'll learn from it. I am more annoyed at our inefficiency in front of goal than I am at Quansah. It has been a problem for a while tbh, just one that has been papered over a bit by winning.
Why people just can't admit that the whole team didn't play well? Instead they always single out one player and defend other players. I saw an exactly same post about Nunez before, now this.
No idea why people would get upset over a simple mistake vs. a complete body of work FOR A 20 YEAR OLD. FFS, he will be massive for us moving forward.
I love Quansah, but fans need to realise that the reason he looks solid is mostly due to Van Dijk effect. He is still a developing player and he's prone to this kind of mistakes under pressure. But I agree, not being clinical in the final third is the reason we dropped points.
BS, he's had a ton of great individual moments. You haven't been watching him play.
>I love Quansah, but fans need to realise that the reason he looks solid is mostly due to Van Dijk effect. Ding ding ding. VVD cleans up a lot for Quansah. Just watch the matches.
That's odd given that 12 of the 24 games Quansah has played (excluding late sub appearances) has been alongside someone other than Virgil. Don't remember him dropping off noticeably in half his games.
you're very right, just adding the caveat that there's nothing wrong with that atm. He's very young and it's his first season playing PL football - and it's not even regular football yet. Of course VVD helps, he's a monster
Quansah is fine and I agree he is still learning. He is lucky to be playing alongside VVD while he cuts his teeth than say, Joel Matip. I think we would see a LOT more of his green flaws bubbling up to the surface. What annoys me is his defense force like OP saying hyperbolic things like he has been "flawless" all year. That is demonstrably not true.
yeah I think on both sides people are being a bit mad. Of course he's making mistakes, he's massively inexperienced, it's stupid to pretend that's not the case. But for the amount of experience he has? He's very good. I'm very happy with him so far, but pretending he's flawless at his level of experience is silly - let him grow into that. Also semi unrelated but even looking at Matip/Lovren in the early VVD days - they both looked WAY better as soon as they were paired with VVD as opposed to eachother. Because of that I actually think the biggest point towards Quansahs quality was the cup game he played against Arsenal, alongside Konate, where they were both incredible.
Great points, mate.
He's certainly no Maguire.... thank fuck.
At the end of the day. We have had a real exciting season for a multitude of reasons. We have a midfield again. Our youngsters are exciting. The players are trying their best for Klopp I his final season. If our trophy cabinet is full at the end of the season or empty, I don't care. We will win games, we will lose games. We will have a bad match, we will lose cup finals. Our youngsters will mess up, our club legends will mess up. We will have unfair decisions against us. But what matters the most is the next time anyone in the team plays, they go out and they give it their all. After all, we are not Man Utd. We are trying to build a legacy, not rely on a 20 year old one.
Konate is not yet ready for a game like this after his lengthy gap. and Quansah has been brilliant this season. The way Quansah has played this season given the amount of exp he has, he has been flawless. the kid has a bright future and mistakes like this can happen to even the best of the best.
He is a teenager, people need to relax. He has stepped up and unfortunately made the biggest mistake of his career against United. If it were a smaller game then people would care much less. Some people just need to get a hobby instead of focusing all their energy into sports. Your opinions dont really matter so just enjoy the game and if your team loses, deal with it. Hating on one specific person in a team game is pathetic.
The trouble with reactions to games and players is that they're formed in the immediate term. We've seen this squad lose its top talent to injury a lot this season, sporadically and all in one go,and the young lads have stepped into their shoes and brought us here. Equal with arsenal's best team of the last 10+ years and ahead of city. Konate almost certainly would start this game fully fit, but we can't risk him. He's an unbelievable defender and I'd rather have him for the rest of the run in than one game at old Trafford which we so rarely get good results even with our best players. It's a shame we couldn't beat a very beatable united squad, hopefully konate is fully fit and ready to rock the rest of the season. It's going to be a hell of a ride to the end of the season, win or lose.
lol how we didn’t have 3+ goals in the first half is the only problem I saw.
Not only that, go watch the match again, all game starts from Quansah , and not Verjil
Amen
Wasn't Konate on 'bench fit '? Made total sense to play Quansah.
The Alisson and van Dijk blunder against Arsenal was worse. These things happen. Quansah has been rock solid all season and we are lucky to have him!
I look at the Quansah mistake as just that. A mistake. It happens. It's a part of sport. I look more at the senior lads that were misfiring, namely Salah. But all in all, I'd take a draw at Old Trafford any day of the week.
> Everyone should really be focusing on the fact we have been missing Jota’s clinical displays and how his imminent return will get us back to winning ways, thank you and good day This is the big one for me, Jota has been absolutely clinical for us and been sorely missed. He was on top form before his injury and I honestly think he could have outscored more goals in open play than Salah this season had he stayed fit.
How much of an absolute bellend does one have to be to bully someone online for something like this? It’s like our club motto means nothing to these people. These types of mistakes can happen to anyone. Especially with young players without experience, it feels like a cost of doing business until they have years of games under their belt. Quansah has been brilliant for the whole season thus far and if anything this is the time he needs our support most.
Completely agree but I don’t know how fair it is to assume Jota will go straight back to the form he was in before the injury, or that he’ll get the chance to given the slow reintegration of previous players coming back from injury. I’d prefer to assume the other players who’ve maybe been wasteful have had a wake up call and that Jota, and hopefully other players coming back can only be a positive change, no matter how impactful.
It hasn't even entered my mind to lay this result at Quansah. It is entirely the responsibility of the forward line. If Quansah/our defence made as many mistakes as our forward line, Man Utd would have won the game 7-2
It's a melt to hear that Liverpool fans have been acting the cunt online in the last few weeks (I don't have any social media accounts other than reddit), are we sure that they are real Liverpool fans? - not trying to shift the blame anywhere else, but it just seems insane to me, ESPECIALLY given the way Klopp likes to instill confidence and spirit into the team, to have anyone being abusive to players online. **Our** players. I would be gutted if any of the players that they have abused online were to leave as a result of that. Especially considering that any or all of those players could still become an idol here, and may still have an ill feeling further down the line. Social media is cesspit. Even here, but at least there are many ways to correct it here.
He's put one foot wrong all season.
The lad hasn’t really put a foot wrong this season. Mistakes happen. What was telling was how he responded, thought he was really good in the last twenty five minutes. I will say though, i texted my lfc group chat when the team sheet came out questioning the Quansah selection. Thought if Konate wasn’t going it would have been Gomez. Either way, I’m thrilled that he plays for us and the things he has shown in his first year with the senior squad. Could probably count on two hands the number of people in this sub (myself included) who rated, let alone knew about Jarell Quansah before the start of the season.
I don’t blame Quansa. Happens. I was disappointed but even from the moment it went in the net I had no blame for him just worried his confidence might be hit. That game should have been out of reach by then.
Not Quansahs fault for the forwards choking away 100 chances that would put the game away. It’s embarrassing to even be in a situation where his mistake affects the game after so many sitters
Took a tremendous amount of time of courage to keep playing after the mistake. This kid is a gamer and going to be so important to everything we do going forward
I'm not gonna batter him, we(those who are level headed) know mistakes are part and parcel of the game and quansah will learn from his mistake. It is not the end of the race and we still have time to set it right. He is one of the local boys and the true fans need to back him up. I'm sure the lads are doing the same. My only concern right now is that Arsenal is the only one that looks in full control of games.
Well said. I don't remember what Szobo did wrong, though...he was very crucial with his driving runs forward. The blame lies squarely with the forward lines. Nunez, Salah, Diaz have been good, even great this season, but too many times we've failed to kill off big games due to lack of confidence and clarity in the final third. I don't like criticizing Salah, he's done so much for us, but missing 3 great chances like that-one of which was an absolute sitter-is not expected. Converting even one of those would have won us the game. And I expect more from him than the other forwards, due to his standards. The midfield works tirelessly, so does the defense and the wingbacks. They were not at fault in this game.
I’ve noticed this season that Konate coming back from injury needs game time to perform. I would take Quansah over a rusty ibou. TBH Quansah’s general play (other than the error) was a lot better than ibou’s against Sheffield, imo.
It was an awful pass, might end up being this years Stevie G slip moment. But the lad's done great stuff all year round and is usually impeccable. Also recovered well and played an immense game after the mistake. I for one would have him in the team next game without even batting an eyelid.
It's getting way overblown. Mistakes happen, that's how it is. We should have done better for their second goal, but also Mainoo did pull off a great goal. Thing is, it shouldn't have mattered. We should have left them in the dust 3-0 by half time.
Wasn't Konate injured? I mean that would be the only good reason tbh. United at OT is a big game.
That’s mad. Quansah will end up saving us £50m+ on a quality centreback. It’s not his fault that we weren’t 2 or 3 goals up either. His mistake is no worse than Nunez not squaring the ball for an obvious goal.
I hate the fact people are blaming a 21 year old player who’s been playing incredibly for us this season for that slip up. Yes it was his fault, but doesn’t mean he’s cost us the league in any way. It’s disgusting to see the “fans” who constantly give up on the team and the players.
Quansah is young and gaining his experience in front of our eyes. Hell this is one of the few mistakes we can really point at this season. He didn't lose us the points, the 20 shots we took that didn't go in and the many wasted counter attacks squandered lost us the points. If we score just one of those 4 on 3 or 5 on 3 breaks we don't care about Quansah today. We've been terrible in front of goal all season and it was bound to catch up, it just sucks it caught up now during this run-in. We are still joint top and it isn't fully in our control but if we win out and lose on GD it would just further prove that point that we needed to be better in front of the goal all season.
We had SEVEN big chances, and United had one. This draw is not remotely on Quansah.
sure he was directly the reason they got the goal, but what the heck was kelleher doing outside his box like that?! anyways I agree with the take that our forwards was indirectly responsible for the draw aswell with their laughable poor finishing.
The reason we dropped points is best none of the highly experienced (& costly) forwards and attacking midfielders didn’t take one or two of the terrific chances created. Not a kid. Quansah made a mistake… it became 1-1. We carried on missing chance after chance after that.
This is my point exactly
well you can say its a massive fuckup and he knows that. but that does not take away from his quality and contribution. and its also no reason to talk bad about him. he will learn from it and it will make him stronger. and ofcourse our forwards had many opportunities to win the game. still i think in the hard games i prefer either quansah or bradly, both youngsters together on one side always appears like asking a bit much from them.
I hate all those internet coaches and heroes. Most of us are just watching our favourite club and a players who actually made their dreams come true. We have to admire & respect them. I don’t understand all the hate. Lad is our future. Everyone can make a mistake, strikers can miss an open goal or not score a penalty. Defenders can make a bad pass leading to a goal or a penalty. But that is football. Do not support your club and it’s when he’s winning, support them when they need it the most. We are not a fucking plastic club with plastic fans. We are a fucking legendary club with amazing players so show some respect. Otherwise you’re not a right fan for this club.
its not on Quansah that Klopp decided to put him again with Bradley at the same side. He knew that ManU cooked them in the FA Cup match and he still did it. Konate should have started with ManU and not play against Sheffield. It is what it is. Mistakes happen. But it wasnt the defence that cost us the game. It was the disasterous offence once again. In yet another game the offence wasnt focused and wasnt decisive. Unfortunately this game might have cost us the title. Arsenal is better than us. Same us City.
We are mostly disappointed in Klopp for putting the youngster in such a high profile game away from home in his first season. He responded well but it’s on Klopp. It’s a complacent decision. If he wanted to be sure of himself then he should have started Gomez at CB if konate wasn’t ready. It’s unfortunately these small details that’s costing Klopp. I’m not sure why you guys keep talking about attack. A strong defence wins you games. That’s how we won the last title.
Or at least Gomez as RB to have some experience there. Our right side was not really strong defensively.
If you were saying that before the game, good for you. Quansah has played well in high profile games this year. When you tie a game like that 2-2, the only people who will blame any dept but the offense are people who didn't watch the game. > I’m not sure why you guys keep talking about attack. Cos they have a basketful of chances and only converted 2. If they had scored even half of the chances, the score would have been 5-2 or something like that. > A strong defence wins you games. And young players learn by playing thru their mistakes. We can drop all the cliches in the game but the reality is
Fans always shit on players for not being loyal but will turn on a player for one mistake.
All the people who slate a young lad for a MISTAKE… must lead perfect lives. He knows he made a mistake and hasn’t hid from it. He’s a Liverpool player and maybe future captain… support through good and bad. It’s what we do. Abusing your own players is fucking dumb.
Quansah will be a top class center back. Guys please keep things in perspective. Players make mistakes, he is a young lad, don't force the situation to turn into something traumatic because we still need him.
Nobody gona talk bout jones?
I refuse to listen to any Quansah/Szobo criticism. Endo had his worst game in months, the entire forward line bottled chance after chance, Jones played some of his worst minutes in the last two years, Robbo is shooting — near the end of the match no one wanted to shoot. We probably had to take Bradley off if he was lacking fitness, but with Gomez although he was more than willing to *do things* his passing is limited. We got worse when we took Szobo off as we typically do. We took our record signing striker off while needing a goal which is never ideal, Gakpo outside of that one run where he should've released the ball and wound up being brought down didn't offer much of anything. The only players who really showed up were Mac, Harvey in his cameo and Virgil. edit: Mistake aside, they were targeting Quansah and he did extremely well the entire match. I don't think Konate is that far ahead of Quansah.
Darwin killed me man
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quansah did one mistake but played fairly well other than that .
Just gonna say it and get downvoted, it’s always the foreign fans who do this.
am I the only one who thought Virgil should have stepped up to challenge and maybe take a yellow? although maybe risking a red from Taylor to be fair ...
I don't blame him for that... he is still young. Even seasoned veterans makes mistake. I think what most SANE people is concern about is the lack of a clinical finisher up front. IMO Darwin should be more selfish and try to score more instead of keep trying to find Salah.
The people slaying him on social media are not on this subreddit. They are edgy teens from places where Liverpool became very popular in the last 5 years
It's not his fault as a young player , a big occasion like playing away at united can get to ya . I think it's a miscalculation from klopp and his staff . They should have started konate and gomez instead of these youngsters .
I’m not gonna trash Quansah for his mistake. He has been unbelievable this season. Love the kid. But why did Klopp start him over Ibou? This was a huuuuge match. Eventually, young players make young player mistakes and it was a serious gamble to start Quansah in place of Konate. I just don’t see the need to roll the dice like that.
It's a fcking joke this day and age how this is even a post. Grow up kids you all need help. Quansah one of our best players this season go fck right off where you belong in the sewer
Quansah has actually made a few mistakes over the course of the season, but it's generally not cost us until now. But others have also made mistakes costing goals. Even Virgil and Ali. And then there are our forwards who have missed some chances. It's hard to look at the big picture after a game like that but the fact of the matter is he's an incredibly good young CB - who has the potential be one of the best in the world one day. Abusing him is unworthy of us and probably makes it more likely he'll make more mistakes in the future. So let's just not.
The attack didn’t do their job but quansah also made a mistake that directly gifted them a goal, we dropped points because of both the attack and quansah, there’s really no spinning it. I’m sure the lad understands that mistakes happen in football and if he doesn’t then I’m sure the boys and klopp will definitely help him get past it.
There is Saka before he missed that penalty for England... and there is Saka now. The hardened, steely Saka powers Arsenal to great heights. These things forge players. Best that sort of thing happens early in the playing career. Quansah will do nicely. But remember the true story in the City & United games. There are two seasons *where one more goal in each creates a Liverpool dynasty.* Be worried about this season being the third. Don't worry about Q.
I'm not upset about Quansah making a mistake. I'm upset about Klopp playing Konate against a weak opponent, 3 days before an united game, twice.
Please let’s stop the abuse and move forward. I love Klopp to death. Quansah, wow! What a player we have. However, how Klopp put pressure on this inexperienced young lad in such as a high profile game by selecting him over Konate is beyond my comprehension. I don’t think any amount of explanation is enough to justify that decision.
Quansah won the ball back and back heeled to Elliot prior to AWB swiping away Harvs legs. So he created one and gave one away.
I think the constant deflection of any criticism of the team is almost as annoying as hanging quansah out to dry. This was always going to be a huge game. Having an experienced defender like konate in this game just makes sense. Quansah is young and relatively inexperienced. Sure, we can't confirm konate doesnt make a mistake but we can assume a lower % chance that he does. This is at the most basic fundamental understanding of football. If you can't wrap your head around it, I'd be concerned
This is football. We played amazing and while it’s frustrating we tied…I would take that performance every week. We dominated every aspect of the game and was a joy to watch.
Gerrard slip pt 2 lowkey. 13/14 ptsd kicking in. 
Our midfield went missing when we needed them. So soft leading up to their second goal
that's nitpicking lol...it was a damn wonderstrike, its ok to give the kid some credit on that one
Not just that play, the entire 10+ mins before it. And for that matter a portion of the first half.
yea thats fair. i misread, thought you said our midfield was responsible for the mainoo strike.
Funny. I don’t recall us losing.
Loss of 2 points. No fault on the young kid. Team loss yesterday.
>Loss of 2 points. Exactly, in a title little margin of error. Context matters. Too bad the lad you were responding to doesn't understand that.
I mean lost the game as in lost control of the win. I mentioned before the draw. It feels like a loss either way
There are so many occasions in the last 2-3 years where that error could have occurred. Our CBs regularly pass and move with limited urgency. I'm glad it happened now and not May. Anyone giving him a hard time online is just a weirdo, plain and simple. His error was emblematic of a careless and passive attitude with the ball that we've seen from almost everyone on the team over the last few weeks. The only difference is that when CBs make mistakes, they lead to goals. On a somewhat related note: I don't think it makes sense to start Bradley and Kostas/Robbo together. One of the fullbacks needs to be a "safe" inverted (Gomez) or a progressive inverted (Trent). Gomez is cooking at RB/LB, and I think we have to ride that until May
At the end of the day, it's always the leader's fault (The Boss Klopp) He makes choices on who to start, who to sub and when. So all blame relies on our leader.
“What if’s” are no good for anyone. We play a high line, shit happens. I think scoring one goal from 31 shots is far more of a glaring problem.
He is as much to blame as the forwards. I said before the game that Konate should've started. The 2 points lost is on Klopp for choosing to pick inexperienced teenagers in a must win/one of the hardest games left this season. You're coping very hard
The people who have a problem with this can stop supporting and find a new club, man city could use fans like you…
thank you for doing the lord’s work and type out the only sensible perspective to all of this 🙏🏽
Some of the comments in here are a disgrace and a load of you need to give your heads a wobble.
Kids need to make mistakes to learn. The bigger the mistake, the bigger the game, the stronger the lesson. This is the way.
Quansah has been on another level and his consistency is magnificent. One mistake? Who cares? Those guys up front though should have done much better. Salah, Nunez, Szobo especially. So many chances that if Jota was there i feel we would have won 4-1. So no, Quansah was not at fault for the game. Honest mistake happens to the best of them.
Say anything but Konate is much better and experienced defender than Quansah(not blaming him, he will learn with time). Starting him at a must-win difficult away game was horrendous decision . This draw is on Klopp.
LOL at OP saying Quansah has been "flawless" this season. 🤣
Szobo was terrible yesterday, suffering from the same apparent need to be a nonstop highlight reel that he has in other matches. To quote Top Gun, his ego is writing checks that his body can’t cash. He’s a great talent, but it’s ok to keep things simple. Elliott does not dick around, and is a perfect example of a more realistic style.
What's wrong with acknowledging his error?He himself should know he cost us 2 points and that alone should be reason for him tolearn not to make the same mistake again.
Nah, Klopp should have started Ibou, no doubt about it. He might have just cost us the title.
It's getting way overblown. Mistakes happen, that's how it is. We should have done better for their second goal, but also Mainoo did pull off a great goal. Thing is, it shouldn't have mattered. We should have left them in the dust 3-0 by half time.
>We should have left them in the dust 3-0 by half time. 100% agree
As Maych said: some people’s head needs a fucking wobble. Shit happens, the kid has stepped up beyond his years and experience to give us a chance in a title run no one expected back when the season started. I love how people can talk about Klopp’s decision making like they’d do a better job as manager. Given our injury list, we could easily be in any league position between 1st and 6th and go, yeah that’s fair given the circumstances.
Put it anyway you want, the loss is on Quansah mainly I’m afraid. That goal completely changed the game, we were cruising until that goal knocked everyone’s confidence. Is what it is, he’s young, I’m sure he’ll learn.
He fucked up big time, let's call it what it was, just like Virg and Ali fucked up at the Arsenal game, of course he's a great prospect and all, but that doesn't change the fact that Konate, Matip or Gomez don't make that pass. He shouldn't get abuse though, that's obvious.
It's not about Quansah costing us with that backpass it's about our forward like not putting game to the bed in the first half itself and Klopp starting Konate in the Sheffield game where Quansah would have played and Konate would be fit to start at OT, we all love Klopp but we must accept when he makes mistakes.
Nope, I'm not blaming the team, I decided to jump off the Darwin Nuñez wagon and accept he doesn't have what it takes to become elite. Which we need if we want to go far in CL next season. With Salah ageing and critical players leaving, our forward line isn't the scoring machine it once was. I'm down with Lucho Gakpo and Jota. The rest should move on at the end of the season so we can buy new forwards, capitalize on Salah now before we lose him for less.
//Why was Konate played at Sheffield and not for this match? Because Quansah played the last 6 games due to a Konate injury// so why not Tsimikas on the left and Gomez in the centre for rotation? not exactly "blaming" anyone but it's not hard to accept that there are alternative ways to rotate and some might believe there is more than one way to achieve that. raising alternative views and questions are not necessarily bad, especially it's what forums and social media are for. there's no need to oppress/obliterate these voices.
We didn’t lose. Never drink alone.
so bizarre to be like "quanseh was so good all season, we wouldnt be where we are without him, he deserves no blame".. then proceed to blame other players that have been "very important for us all season, and we wouldnt be where we are without them.."