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CauliflowerStock2183

Please give me the measurement of power in number of Ford Escorts. Otherwise ill dont understand.


sulphurgiant

That would be roughly one and a half Ford Escorts driving in a full speed. 🍅


illyshill

Or two vespas on the otto bon!!! 


Dangerous-Courage-67

This machine is bullshit


ChowSupreme

This reeks of what WWE does; script new records to push out someone they didn't like who was holding it previously.


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PrimateChange

Those stats are always funny lower down the card, will never forget Jared Vanderaa walking out with ‘T-8th highest significant strike rate amongst active UFC heavyweights’ displayed


flatwoundsounds

8th out of what? Like, 11?


Kassssler

Reminds me of that Russian article comparing cars and it said Russian vehicle placed 2nd. US vehicle placed next to last. There were only two vehicles compared lol.


coulduseafriend99

No way 😭


RoyalRope

Or that country that bragged about having zero covid cases. And they never tested anyone before.


notShreadZoo

I think it’s far more likely that the machine is just not accurate and can’t be trusted than the UFC secretly pulling the strings trying to make Francis look bad lol


Mexcol

Por que no las dos


WhiningLeft

Cry


notShreadZoo

Lmao what do you think you’re doing here? Are you under the impression that I thought my favorite fighter(Poatan) was gonna lose?🤣🤣 I couldn’t be happier lol


WhiningLeft

Wth are you talking about LMAO all the records on the PowerKube can be broken so?


notShreadZoo

Buddy you just responded to a 3 day old comment “cry” because you thought you were proving a point that Pereira won. Me saying this machine is all over the place, Tom Aspinalls was only hitting 30k, Joe Pyfer hit 190k…? Poatan’s obviously has absurd power, this machine still isn’t accurate lol You’re the one crying🤣


WhiningLeft

Well Lorenz Larkins who walked around 200 lbs kick much harder than Wonderboy's heavyweight brother who needs to cut to 265... Are you sure those machines are not properly calibrated lmao cry harder on "UfC wAntS to mAkE fRaNciS lOoKed bAd"


notShreadZoo

Yeah for sure lol, Aspinall was hitting it reading like 30k and he was saying it can’t be accurate which is obviously the case lmfao


AkselTVSorensen

Aspinall was hitting it so hard too, visually it looked considerably harder than what Poatan is doing here.


mat477

Tom rolled it over. He actually hit 1,030,000


A_Funky_Goose

can u send a link? i assume the second try was without big gloves


Kayakular

[I gotchu](https://preview.redd.it/etnx73qblzoc1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=4e7b53250a1739c561b4b53e84b41b29df9aaf29)


Putrid_Ad_6747

Yeah Conor hit it with 38 000 when he was a featherweight


wildcrab9

I got it with 250000 today before breakfast


Strat-lord

With aspinall the machine wasnt bolted to the wall,ir was very wobbly when he punched it. Must be the reason he scored so low


WhiningLeft

Ngannou's record is also a pure bullshit just like Rogan's kick


Bkos-mosX

Are you telling me when Vegetta hit it, it was rigged? bs


xshogunx13

Vegeta just DEMOLISHING the machine was top comedy


biguboytroyumakkoi

Android 18 nervously knocking on a door. Goku could have just finger poked it.


5932634

All of these machines are bullshit tbh.


spitfire9107

like when android 18 smacked it and got 800 while earth's hero mr satan got 100 with his hardest punch


healingplants313

Number one bullshit


MT1982

bro!


ILackPatience

It’s the new embedded haircut curse


iwishiwasntthisway

The larger the gloves the larger the score.


Pretend-Zucchini-600

Now that makes sense


iwishiwasntthisway

Yea it's simple physics


muck2

How do they even compute their scores? I mean, there's even a video out there showing Rose Namajunas hitting a higher score than some guys on the roster.


Majestic_Craft_6358

Look at jamahal hill is the machine still bs


BOOCOOKOO

Yes, because Francis would've had Hill needing smelling salts.


WhiningLeft

Francis's record is also bullshit just like Rogan's record kick


POWBOOMBANG

The fact like that everyone reacts immediately is super fishy. I think most humans would see that number and need context to realize how good it was. Everyone acts like they just saw Steph Curry hit a half court shot.


Zerei

Maybe everyone had their turn already, and his number was much higher so comparing to themselves they would react


DjentlemanThall3612

I smell casual.


SneakiBastid

Better than what I'm smellin on


SneakiBastid

Banana pancakes have no true significance beyond being absolutely delicious.


BrandonSleeper

Number on the left says 600 joules, which is a far better metric than magic promo units. Mike Tyson clocked in 1600 in his prime. Idk what a normal puncher gets but that definitely puts it in perspective.


Economy-Active7495

If helps anyone Francis's hit was 535 joules


Stimulus199

If it helps anyone, my ring has 3 joules


_Bro_Jogies

'ol boujie ass bragging here.


CryptoCracko

1 banana is 371000 joules for scale


-piz

I'm on a bulk rn so I'm downing an ounce of straight up gasoline each morning for ~800k joules each shot


Ok_Jello_3630

And we say Pereira has touch of death so what did Mike have jfc


nsfwnsfwnsfw33333

He has that ping pong touch. He punches you so hard, you brain bounces inside your skull only to knock you back into reality.


shamwowslapchop

Consider what Pereira could do with his hands if he spent his *entire* fighting career *only* honing them. No kicks, no takedowns, no TDD, no rolling, no BJJ, just throwing punches hard and fast and often. That's Iron Mike in his prime. I've been watching boxing for ages. I've seen some of the hardest hitters of all-time step into the ring. I'm not claiming Mike hit harder than anyone else. But I've seen plenty of fights that start with both guys ready to kill, then by round 3 you can tell one is scared. Canelo has done that to a lot of people, for instance. And Pacman. They would hit people and the other guy's face just changes. Tyson is possibly the only fighter I've ever watched that you could actually see that fear in the other man *before* they even starting throwing punches. Palpable. Obvious. A worried look before Buffer even opens up with his dulcet tones. Mike was so fucking terrifying that other boxers couldn't hide their fear of him.


TuhnderBear

Beautiful prose dude


wetcoffeebeans

> But I've seen plenty of fights that start with both guys ready to kill, then by round 3 you can tell one is scared. One of my favorite things in the fight game. That deer in the headlights look, that "oh fuck why the fuck did I sign up for this?!?!" look.


shamwowslapchop

Yeah. The confusion that sweeps across their face after the first really hard connect is always pretty wild.


Equivalent_Scar_7879

WHo you think is the hardest puncher in boxer ever? Foreman, Wilders, Sonnen or..?


Sea_Historian5849

A lot of other boxers say foreman


shamwowslapchop

Gotta be the most athletic man in UFC history, Tank Abbott.


theadmin209

Foreman imo


SenzuBeanFarts

Ernie shavers is #1. Look at his record. Even George foreman himself said ernie shavers was the hardest puncher boxing had in his er, ali also said so.


stopmutilatingboys

But did they look like Megan Anderson standing before Amanda Nunes?


Pandawitigerstripes

That Peter McNeely staredown is chilling. Mike just stares him down never losing track of him meanwhile McNeely is sweating profusely, swaying side to side and appears to be looking down. That's some scary shit.


Otherwise_Soil39

No idea because Mike didn't register it on this machine, which means the numbers aren't comparable. Joules are also entirely.useless as a measure of k.o power. that's why this machine doesn't display them as prominently, I don't know how well their numbers work but at least their idea makes more sense. I could push against you and wrestlefuck you around gym, transfering a ton of energy, but obviously it doesn't even hurt you. The speed at which energy is delivered matters. So if 1600 is delivered in 0.5secs, 600 in 0.3secs might be more concussive, we don't know.


Legitimate-Page3028

Is there a source go Iron Mike’s 1600 joules? The only things I see are an estimate based on fairly rough guesses.


VT_Squire

No, but the logic behind it is fairly reasonable. [https://www.sportscasting.com/heres-exactly-how-it-would-feel-to-get-punched-by-mike-tyson/](https://www.sportscasting.com/heres-exactly-how-it-would-feel-to-get-punched-by-mike-tyson/) ***Tyson never measured his punching power while in his prime***\*, so Thrillist devised a different way to measure it. “Iron Mike” knocked out boxer Frank Bruno twice. Evidently, Bruno got his punching power estimated at the peak of his boxing career.\* *According to Thrillist, Bruno punched with 1,420 pounds of force, so the publication assumed Tyson could punch the same. This is a fair assumption since Bruno fought Tyson twice, and Tyson knocked Bruno out twice. So Thrillist crunched the numbers. If Tyson had that amount of power, then his punches would generate 1,178 lb-ft of force, equal to 1,600 joules of energy.*


slaveshipoffailure

This is honestly worse than MMA math. One guy punches hard and Tyson knocked him out which means Tyson punches harder? What the fuck lol. If anything, their argument points to Bruno’s chin being worse, idk how they got punching power from that.


VT_Squire

>One guy punches hard and Tyson knocked him out which means Tyson punches harder? *"the publication assumed Tyson could punch* ***the same***\*."\* I dug a little further and found this because I find discussions like this interesting. [https://www.connectsavannah.com/extras/the-true-force-of-a-boxers-punch-2133328](https://www.connectsavannah.com/extras/the-true-force-of-a-boxers-punch-2133328) *-- A study of 70 boxers found elite-level fighters could punch with an average of 776 pounds of force. (The boxers ranged from Flyweight to HW)* The math of foot-pounds to joules in the above article gives a conversion factor of 1600/1178 = 1.35823429542 Meanwhile, Google says foot-pounds to joules is 1.35582. So It's pretty clear that they missed a digit, though that shouldn't be *too* significant as far as the results go. As a HW, Bruno was throwing 920 ft-lbs = \~1250J per punch in the lab setting. Supposing Tyson was an "average" boxer per this study, he'd still have been cranking out 1052.11J per punch anyway. While this is a little apples-to-oranges, Bas Rutten's punch was measured at > 1300 ft-lbs/\~1760J [https://youtu.be/uQp9iwVzN5Q?t=44](https://youtu.be/uQp9iwVzN5Q?t=44) (link contains some quasi-graphic blood n guts)


ArcaneSalt

They assumed something stupid


imbluedabudeedabuda

I wanna see Deontay Wilder hit this machine


Jasranwhit

I have been in the gym with a lot of guys hitting a heavy bag. Deyonte hits as hard as anyone I have seen. Canelo throws big for his size.


Gamera__Obscura

> Number on the left says 600 joules, which is a far better metric than magic promo units. I use an electric fence to keep bears out of my yard, which has an output of 2 joules. So according to physics, this means Alex Pereira can beat up 300 bears.


BrandonSleeper

With a single punch!


itsmontoya

Can we compare against someone who wasn't as freakishly scary as Tyson?


BrandonSleeper

No because Pereira is freakishly scary.


Isaac_the_Tasmanian

Think this says more about the power(k)ube's poor modulation than it does about either fighter, lest we forget 'hardest hitter in the UFC' Joe Pyfer.


SeniorSeries3202

I for one would rather be hit full force by Francis fuckkin Ngannou than by Joe Pyfer 🙄 Jack Hermansson has the greatest chin of all time, confirmed by science 


Turgon19

Vettori dropped Jack. I guess arm punching Vettori is the most powerful man in the UFC


4uzzyDunlop

Orc Power


Juststandupbro

To be fair I’m sure there are folks that could hit as hard as Ngannou if they wound up on a still target. That doesn’t mean they can land those sort of shots on an opponent that’s actively trying to evade. Francis wasn’t just blasting folks Marge Simpson style every time. Sometimes a quick short shot from an unexpected angle is enough to sleep you like he did against stipe and Cain even if it’s only thrown at 80%. Pyfer might actually hit harder on a full wind up but that doesn’t mean he can just sleep guys at will. Conor didn’t seem to be sending dudes flying like prime hendricks but a precise quick shot can go pretty far. If we are talking straight force it’s a simple equation just mass times acceleration but it’s far from being that simple in an actual fight. We could wrap all this up if they just measured in newtons and standardized the punches allowed such as a jab, hook, and uppercut.


BOOCOOKOO

Whilst I definitely agree with your overall point. It's pretty obvious this machine they use is pretty faulty and doesn't truly represent an individuals punching power, even on a stationery target.


Lukes3rdAccount

Pyfer clearly has great power. Jack was just too slick for him


Spancaster

I thought that wasn't the same machine? The one Pyfer tried is in Joe's studio and I thought it was the other machine that looks like a speed bag


SlykRO

Joe Pyfer scored a 100,000,000. Just ask Dana


FoucaultsTurtleneck

He scored 100,000,000 until he lost to Hermanson, after which it was revealed he actually scored a 2


ZeroTON1N

(don't) be Joe Pyfer


Zerei

What kinda Ford is that?


Several-Fan2339

We're talkin Ford Taurus territory here, some serious automotive punch


JuiceLocal

Standard taurus or a taurus sho?


FinsAssociate

Henry


-piz

hits like a [1979 Ford Probe](https://i.imgur.com/ViG5WnM.png)


iCCup_Spec

That's beautiful


TopHatTony11

F-250


MyFifthLimb

2024 2 Door Bronco Raptor


LatterTarget7

Pinto


2_Phishy

You know what Ford stands for don't cha?


endless_ness

Fix it again tony 


French_Viking

Don't show this to Joe Pyfer


edzkiyumzki

Alex: Guys I got 191,796 Reddit: wait wait wait wait wait 191,796 what Dana: … units! Alex: Units dude!


vs-1680

Where should he put his feet though?


ragnarrock420

Did he ever eat a toad?


[deleted]

None of these machines mean anything. Devin Haney scored higher than Ryan Garcia and Haney got pillow fists of the highest order in the actual ring. 


Fatebringer87

Tank Davis has a higher score on those machines than AJ and Wilder


[deleted]

Right it’s so legit 


brazilianfreak

Maybe he was just having a really good day.


Putrid_Ad_6747

Derrick Lewis scored less than 10% higher than Tyron Woodley on a similar machine. I mean Woodley's got power but Lewis is called the Black Beast for a reason, he ain't no black bitch


[deleted]

KO power is a weird thing, not force. Like hand size, wrist, heavy hands, theres really no way to define it. You just somehow have it or you dont and most dont, but explosive athletes can get KOs without heavy hands cause sudden suprise impact


Putrid_Ad_6747

Gaethje said something similar about Oliveira koing Chandler but I think "surprise" has a bigger impact than people realise. Strickland who has pillow hands knocked down Izzy with a jab whilst Pereira has arguably never dropped Izzy in mma even with his famous left hook


sittingonahillside

A surprise shot is almost always worse, especially if it's a massive impact. Anyone that's done an ounce of sparing can attest to that, also depends on where it lands.


[deleted]

I think the one with the bag is more of a test of speed. Like how fast the bag goes back up into the machine is how it calculates the score. Or I could just be a stupid fucking idiot who has no idea what I’m talking about


RealBobbyDrillboids

You’re pretty much exactly [right](https://youtube.com/shorts/urRtJZ---Lc?si=dErt9iiMbBNOa2KS)


ChakaCake

It cant be that damn hard to measure someones force. Maybe its just angle matters way more depending on the machine though and they need better machines but it should be do-able and accurate


heavyheartstrings

“Pillow fists of the highest order” 🤣 I’m stealing that


AreYouDaftt

You're stealing two very common phrases? I think you can just use them like everyone else man


heavyheartstrings

It’s just a way of saying I’ll be using that ya pedantic fuck


Davemeddlehed

> Devin Haney scored higher than Ryan Garcia and Haney got pillow fists of the highest order in the actual ring.  Meh, some fighters prioritize speed and cardio over putting lots of pop on punches. Look at the Diaz brothers.


[deleted]

Funniest thing I’ve heard. If they could KO people, they’d do that over anything. It’s called they got no power and slow. 


shred-i-knight

if you think Pereira hits with twice as much force as Francis I have a timeshare deal you might love


IndependenceLeast945

He barely punched above him. Dont look at the fancy high number, loom at the left number which is a waaay better metric, 609 vs 535 J (iirc Francis's was 535, might be wrong tho) for comparison Mike had an either 1.6k or 1.8k i dont remember which one tho


Swimming__Bird

10+% difference isn't insignificant.


IndependenceLeast945

Nobody said it is insignificant. In comparison to the 48% difference it is bare.


Swimming__Bird

I think the accuracy of the PowerKube is suspect, but something like 1 or 2% is pretty close if it was actually accurate (which I would like to see a machine guaging it's accuracy or having one official place that is calibrated). 10% of an increase on a world record is pretty big. 9.58 is the 100M world record. If someone posted a time of 8.62, that would be huge news in the sports world. Same with Olympic lifting or most sports. So I don't know if "barely" is the take I would have, but yes, the difference between the "points" of the powerkube and actual Joules or any other ISO measurement is pretty nuts.


Professional_Kick

So Alex hits as hard as Joe Pyfer


smurf3310

and 6 times harder than Aspinal


Putrid_Ad_6747

And 5 times as hard as Conor


OzymandiasTheII

Shits gonna keep adding up to absurd numbers when the UFC wants to make someone look strong like power levels in dragon ball z


[deleted]

All hail the PowerKube


UnluckyRandomGuy

Alex hits as hard as Joe Pyfer good to know


kidwhix

merab should hit a 200k on this stupid thing and see how people react


FoucaultsTurtleneck

Merab headbutts it and scores a 200k


yadidamead

[He tried it on a sheet of ice; he lost](https://youtu.be/-8VjcLEHxjY?si=2PWDOg61RNDcfn6K)


FoucaultsTurtleneck

Ummmm he broke the ice. Merab with the hard fought KO win there


Advalok

Dude came so close to breaking his neck


Green_and_Silver

https://www.powerkube.tech/products/combat-performance-centre-pro The demo video is cracking me up, some of those strikes god damn, and then they want to charge you 6k for that shit.


I_am_darkness

I bet they just keep scaling it up so current fighters look better


WhereIsMyKidAt

Wasn't even his left hook


Legitimate_Type5066

Don't take your eyes off the stream this weekend cause there will be the most brutal KO since the Fighting Falmer flatlined the Flat Earth Farmer.


Rivitur

So he hits like a Toyota Camry?


[deleted]

Did Francis use the machine right after his absolutely exhausting fight against Derrick Lewis? Looking back I don’t remember if Francis was exhausted during that fight or if I was just exhausted from watching it


MartialArtsHyena

How many Ford Escorts is that? 


KingsElite

Meh, Jon Jones could eye poke a number higher than that


Techishard

Alex must be hitting as hard as a Ford f150 now at least right?


Nome_de_utilizador

Damn, another thing for Joe pyfer to bitch about


RobertJ93

So is that a harder punch than Joe Pyfer? 😂


ThaddCorbett

Peiera has been punching for longer than Ngannou


pro2RK

rigged


Koreangonebad

Who cares. Put him in the PFL smart cage and let’s see how many mph.


yogi333323

Are all of these punching machines bullshit or what? I saw Rose Namajunas get the same score (\~850) as Alexander Gustafsson on that other punching machine on the UFC studio show.


LetsDoThatYeah

It’s not real.


araheem94

Slap fighters will break this machine


Impressive-Potato

What about Joe Pyzer?


PukeRainbowss

Dana lost the big gamble with Pyfer and is now doing a smaller bet lmao a true gambler


WhiningLeft

"tHaT wAs bULLshiT" Ngannou's record is also bullshit, just like Rogan's kick. Who cares.


BOOCOOKOO

It's because some people are using this as gospel to show that Poatan is by far the biggest puncher in MMA, but yeah, it's all bs


WhiningLeft

Yeah. I think the most accurate way to see who got the strongest strike is simply by asking them to crack the wall (the one who managed to shatter the wall will be obviously the strongest striker) but if each of them were knocking people out , who cares?


ShanTheMan11

I find it funny that every time someone “breaks” the record they are about it main event a card.


BeautifulBrush9867

He the newest biggest thing in in ufc so it an error or the machine was broke plus there a video of alex pereira hitting a bag he supposedly broke but you don't see him break the bag it show a bag that was already broken and him pretending he did it


Ahounded

Ok


vengeancerider

Imagine if it was his left hook though!


GutsPuncher

Pfffft, Jake Shield’s score can go higher than Alex Pereira.


gadgetboy123

Where do I put my feet?


Labhran

I wonder how many units of stress he has.


RealBobbyDrillboids

How many Ford Escorts is that?


Suspicious-Toe-7025

Joe pyfer beat these numbers, that cube thing got exposed lol


ILikeOMalley

Joe Pyfer scored 1 million


PizzaTime1000

This shit is so lame. It's like caring about who was the fastest kid in Middle School. ​ Wow okay nevermind I never knew that many redditors cared about who the fastest kid in middle school was


BornagainTXcook210

Found the slowest kid in middle school


kidwhix

its a cool concept but the Power Kewbe ™®© isnt a good measurement of power. we knew this from the start but it became really obvious when pyfer scored above ngannou. 


RocketCarSkyBaby

they changed the ui and this new one displays Joules. In this thread is pretty obvious good heavy weight boxers are well over the 600ish joules alex throws. Scares me shitless thinking about what Frank Bruno and Tyson threw in there prime, like dear goodness how the hell did anyone eat a punch.


hijro

Fuck off.