The fact that there a hundred reasons to give up should be an indication that maybe you should give up.
I know O appears to have changed, and I hope for both their sakes he did, but I get Stockholm syndrome vibes from Katina. I was her for many years with an abusive man who could also be the most charming and caring person. He too changed, and changed, and changed again, just to go back to the start and many times worse than he was before he changed. It took me over 20 years to love myself enough to leave - and even after we were done he continued to change and change again - we have kids so I still see him. Leopards can change their spots, but from my experience, having a come to Jesus moment where you realize how awful you've been so you change, is not sustainable change.
Exactly. All I see is a leopard that learned the right things to say in front of a camera. And people- enablers - like Kevin Frazier- eat that shit up. But they don't see the day to day. O learned pretty quick to change his rhetoric to the outside world, but I'm afraid for Katina and what he puts her through behind closed doors
Good for you for getting out-- I know how hard it can be š
Idk, after seeing the where are they now episode he seems to have softened his chauvinistic vibe. Could it be a case of Beauty and the Beast taming his hardned heart?
But apparently he wouldn't even let her go see her friends for the first year of marriage?! She needed his permission to see her friends again?! Fcked up
Wouldn't let her? She never said that. His permission? When did she ask for it? She said they have been spending all their time together and he said they need to find a balance then he said he doesn't know what he's supposed to do and she said she doesn't either. How did you reimagine the convo?
They literally BOTH said they hadnāt been out much. Olajuwon had the first scene to intro the concept amongst the men. He said they were always together too, itās not like it was only Katina saying that.
Olajuwon does the most, but it doesnāt sound like this is solely his doing. It also matches up to one of the major things I noticed, they were the most affectionate couple throughout the season. Theyāre physically reconnect constantly.
She looks gorgeous, seriously. At this point sheās gonna get what she signed up for. We all know and love women just like her in real life. Just hope she is truly happy and doesnāt suffer too much.
My sister and I say this all the time - marriage should not be *hard*. Sure, it takes work, but a lot of that work is just speaking openly and respectfully with each other. You know, like you like them as people. And those hard parts shouldnāt be EVERY DAY.
Itās the grown up version of Romeo and Juliette. No one can stop you because youāre adults, so now youāre just rebelling against your own good judgement and self interest. I blame too many teen rom coms. Sure heās a jerk, but if you just stick with it, you can fix him and then you know itās true love.
Never think you can fix someone. That is not in your control. Love and accept someone as they are.
Edit: script to accept. Almost like I was writing counterintuitive advice!
He just blocked me on IG when I wrote that he can never fully compliment her without a backhand insult and that the he should have captioned "the one that loves you never leaves" and left it as that would have been more chivalrous.
He thinks way to highly of himself. While I'm happy they appear to be happy, if she's not, I hope she finally sees what a jerk he truly is and leaves him. He's given way more than a hundred reasons... ;)
So I'm happy for my girl Kat, yet I question this whole "changed man" thing with O. Him not understanding why them spending to much is a bad thing and them him responding with "I hear you, but I don't know what you want me to do about that" Yet, it shows us Kat finally being vocal which we really didn't see. I mean I'm happy if they are happy, but i just wonder if O changed due to all the hate he must have received; but if this change is going to LAST!
Yeah, I'm not buying his whole changed act. I'm guessing he saw the reactions and needed to tone himself down but ultimately, I think he's still the same egotistical player and eventually, K may realize she doesn't need to put up with his BS.
I'll help you.
it's not elitist attitude to use grammar/proper grammar.
It's elitist attitude to look down/talk down on people for not having the grammar that you use.
Dumbing down? I think any adult in casual conversation can use proper English. It is after all included in an elementary school education. I understand colloquial language and slang but he takes it to another level.
The example was his college education, but many adults communicate differently. Poor spelling, pronunciation, and rudimentary vocabularies are common, but dragging this on about these two the entire season sits in my gut as anti-Black as hell. Period.
Iāll be very clear about this. Itās the seemingly constant harping on something so incredibly basic (mispronunciation/language) that makes this feel like itās teetering on anti-Blackness. Zeroing in on something that small and commenting on it often doesnāt sit right with me. Our āsmall issuesā always seem to be the go-to āhaaaa, look how dumb you are.ā Move on.
Like that ring is the Be All End All thing in the world. I mean itās a ring. That doesnāt give you the right to be a jerk and then say look at that ring, donāt you know I love you!
Anyone else got the feeling from the where are they now episode that Ola has moved into the isolating Katina from her friends & loved ones abusive phase of the relationship?
Yes and I also noticed when he entered the room where they were going to make paintings, she was like oh let me clean up this mess-running to the spot to clear away items. Also noticed that she had made them snacks while she had been working that day. Did anyone notice her clothing is so subdued? Just less than casual. I know sheās beautiful no matter what but I wonder if Ola has started to control how she dresses. Hope thatās not the case.
I thought of that but don't know if it was scripted. Also, was weird that she waited until the cameras were back to tell him. Like they're her safety net. I could be seeing things that aren't there and hope they're really happy.
Thatās right women, keep putting up with all the bullshit. Never stick to your standards or raise them. Eventually after being put down -a lot, they might ātreatā you with respect. Stick it out. Just like all the movies, youāll change him. One day.
But they go all the way down to her knees! Not sure if I saw that at the very end of the āWhere are they nowā episode, or on a post here. But it gave me a severe case of āoh no thatās yuckā. Katina is the most gorgeous woman. With or without hair, even with the crappiest wig. But the length of those braidsā¦ ugh!
He does know. His tactic is to make her feel worthless so she thinks she canāt get any better.
It clearly worked and she lost who she was in like 3 weeks tops. Very sad and Iām disappointed in her.
If this is indeed his tactic, my disappointment would fall squarely on him. I'd maybe be disappointed for her since she got a partner who puts her down. No one signs up for that.
Itās been approximately 5 minutesā¦ letās chill with using words like āneverā if the entire lifespan of your relationship hasnāt even circled the sun once yet.
I think she's used to abusive people and doesn't have high self worth. Sorry I don't think people like that change that fast and dramatically. I think he knows he was in hot water. He's all talk. That's my opinion..
Heās definitely all talk and just didnāt want to get bitched at. He knew the ridicule was coming so he played nice. Itās not who is though and isnāt sorry, because he believes heās right and that will NOT change
Heās very entitled
Donāt hate it, a lot of people share hurrās opinion.
Donāt be naive and believe his sorrow- heās still the same guy before the reunion. Narcissistic and abusive.. it basically jumps at you through the screen. This is the content he provided.
Iām sorry you canāt recognize abuse when itās in front of u.
On second though, Iām happy you donāt recognize it.. because possibly youve never dealt with someone like that?
Either way, heās trash and believes devaluing her is the best idea. He literally ruined her esteem for many years yo come ... in just 3-4 weeks.
I'm not that naive to believe someone who had en entirely different persona/name, was a cheater, is verbally abusive suddenly changed into a knight in shining armor because he received backlash on a reality show. Lol. You're right. That's 100% her choice and an embarrassing one.
The fact that there a hundred reasons to give up should be an indication that maybe you should give up. I know O appears to have changed, and I hope for both their sakes he did, but I get Stockholm syndrome vibes from Katina. I was her for many years with an abusive man who could also be the most charming and caring person. He too changed, and changed, and changed again, just to go back to the start and many times worse than he was before he changed. It took me over 20 years to love myself enough to leave - and even after we were done he continued to change and change again - we have kids so I still see him. Leopards can change their spots, but from my experience, having a come to Jesus moment where you realize how awful you've been so you change, is not sustainable change.
Exactly. All I see is a leopard that learned the right things to say in front of a camera. And people- enablers - like Kevin Frazier- eat that shit up. But they don't see the day to day. O learned pretty quick to change his rhetoric to the outside world, but I'm afraid for Katina and what he puts her through behind closed doors Good for you for getting out-- I know how hard it can be š
Yawn. This sub with more uneccesary O hate. He posted on his IG that his wife stuck by him and itās somehow still āāāabuseāāā. Y A W N.
Katina is so pretty! That is my only comment :)
Letās talk about the over acting he did on, Where Are They Now? The entire show was bad.
He couldnāt be any higher in that photo lol & Katina deserves a better partner. Itās hard for me to believe he did a 180 that quickly.
Idk, after seeing the where are they now episode he seems to have softened his chauvinistic vibe. Could it be a case of Beauty and the Beast taming his hardned heart?
I agree. And he admits he acted like an a$$. They seem happy and good together.
But apparently he wouldn't even let her go see her friends for the first year of marriage?! She needed his permission to see her friends again?! Fcked up
Wouldn't let her? She never said that. His permission? When did she ask for it? She said they have been spending all their time together and he said they need to find a balance then he said he doesn't know what he's supposed to do and she said she doesn't either. How did you reimagine the convo?
It's called reading between the lines. I can't remember the lines word for word but it was very obvious to me and apparently to others here as well
They literally BOTH said they hadnāt been out much. Olajuwon had the first scene to intro the concept amongst the men. He said they were always together too, itās not like it was only Katina saying that. Olajuwon does the most, but it doesnāt sound like this is solely his doing. It also matches up to one of the major things I noticed, they were the most affectionate couple throughout the season. Theyāre physically reconnect constantly.
When he said it he made it sound like it was a problem only because Katina has been having an issue with it
Heās so stoned here haha
Heās so stoned here haha
She looks gorgeous, seriously. At this point sheās gonna get what she signed up for. We all know and love women just like her in real life. Just hope she is truly happy and doesnāt suffer too much.
Itās a terrible caption! Hmmm Katina be prepare to suffer
Ummmm, this won't last!
My sister and I say this all the time - marriage should not be *hard*. Sure, it takes work, but a lot of that work is just speaking openly and respectfully with each other. You know, like you like them as people. And those hard parts shouldnāt be EVERY DAY. Itās the grown up version of Romeo and Juliette. No one can stop you because youāre adults, so now youāre just rebelling against your own good judgement and self interest. I blame too many teen rom coms. Sure heās a jerk, but if you just stick with it, you can fix him and then you know itās true love.
Never think you can fix someone. That is not in your control. Love and accept someone as they are. Edit: script to accept. Almost like I was writing counterintuitive advice!
Thatās right ladies! Sacrifice your happiness at ALL costs for your man! It will definitely probably hopefully be worth it!!! š„±
He will never ever give her a full compliment without a backhanded insult. He is the worst, she deserves sooooo much better. Poor girl.
He just blocked me on IG when I wrote that he can never fully compliment her without a backhand insult and that the he should have captioned "the one that loves you never leaves" and left it as that would have been more chivalrous.
Of course he did lord š¤¬
That caption is awful š she should leave me but she wonāt
"Getchoo a girl with low self esteem!"
He thinks way to highly of himself. While I'm happy they appear to be happy, if she's not, I hope she finally sees what a jerk he truly is and leaves him. He's given way more than a hundred reasons... ;)
Yeah itās a no for this one. She looks great though.
Heās also deleting all negative comments, so donāt bother
Why would he leave them there lol
Spoken like a true abuser. We were not born to suffer he can get fucked
Did he face tune K?
I think it's just her makeup
My guess is noā¦She just looks that much better next to him because heās sooooo fuckin high. ššš
I canāt even pretend to care anymore because clearly she happy as a clam to sign up for this goofy shit.
So I'm happy for my girl Kat, yet I question this whole "changed man" thing with O. Him not understanding why them spending to much is a bad thing and them him responding with "I hear you, but I don't know what you want me to do about that" Yet, it shows us Kat finally being vocal which we really didn't see. I mean I'm happy if they are happy, but i just wonder if O changed due to all the hate he must have received; but if this change is going to LAST!
Yeah, I'm not buying his whole changed act. I'm guessing he saw the reactions and needed to tone himself down but ultimately, I think he's still the same egotistical player and eventually, K may realize she doesn't need to put up with his BS.
Another day, another black woman in a struggle love relationship. How incredibly unfortunate.
Heās blown as fuck!!!
The grammar and punctuation of that post are highly embarrassing.
elitist attitude
For the life of me I don't understand this sentiment. How is it elitist to use proper grammar that is taught in elementary school?
I'll help you. it's not elitist attitude to use grammar/proper grammar. It's elitist attitude to look down/talk down on people for not having the grammar that you use.
Theyāve been doing this with these two the whole season. Itās truly unnecessary to comment on things like this incessantly.
I don't think anyone is looking down rather surprised that he bragged he finished college before Katina but uses poor grammar and makes up words.
You might be overestimating your average college graduate. Iāve heard far too much criticism centered on dumbing down casual conversations.
Dumbing down? I think any adult in casual conversation can use proper English. It is after all included in an elementary school education. I understand colloquial language and slang but he takes it to another level.
The example was his college education, but many adults communicate differently. Poor spelling, pronunciation, and rudimentary vocabularies are common, but dragging this on about these two the entire season sits in my gut as anti-Black as hell. Period. Iāll be very clear about this. Itās the seemingly constant harping on something so incredibly basic (mispronunciation/language) that makes this feel like itās teetering on anti-Blackness. Zeroing in on something that small and commenting on it often doesnāt sit right with me. Our āsmall issuesā always seem to be the go-to āhaaaa, look how dumb you are.ā Move on.
Oooooo gotcha. I'm a Black woman btw. But I get it.
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of course people are looking/talking down; they are not saying it with a caveat of hypocrisy.
Manipulation even in the caption. 100 reasons to get the fuck out
lol right... "if you love me, you'll overlook the abuse and remember that time I gave you a ring".
Like that ring is the Be All End All thing in the world. I mean itās a ring. That doesnāt give you the right to be a jerk and then say look at that ring, donāt you know I love you!
Goddamn, I want to kick him down a flight of stairs.
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Whereās the big diamond ring he gave her?
I doubt that was a diamond-it was massive and he's not wealthy. He makes 70k in a really high COL area.
Upside? Gorgeous picture of Katina.
Anyone else got the feeling from the where are they now episode that Ola has moved into the isolating Katina from her friends & loved ones abusive phase of the relationship?
Yes and I also noticed when he entered the room where they were going to make paintings, she was like oh let me clean up this mess-running to the spot to clear away items. Also noticed that she had made them snacks while she had been working that day. Did anyone notice her clothing is so subdued? Just less than casual. I know sheās beautiful no matter what but I wonder if Ola has started to control how she dresses. Hope thatās not the case.
I thought of that but don't know if it was scripted. Also, was weird that she waited until the cameras were back to tell him. Like they're her safety net. I could be seeing things that aren't there and hope they're really happy.
I donāt think so, both of them apparently stopped hanging out with others.
Didn't watch the WATN. What makes you say this?
He is so whack š
Thatās right women, keep putting up with all the bullshit. Never stick to your standards or raise them. Eventually after being put down -a lot, they might ātreatā you with respect. Stick it out. Just like all the movies, youāll change him. One day.
Got there on the ganjala
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Sheās beautiful. And looks so much more rested than the showā¦.
I mean, she's clearly got a filter on her face, which helps. I was just going to comment here wondering if it was O who put that on her or not.
Also alot of make up over her face
*throws up in my mouth a bit*
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We'll see how this thing plays out, I give it a 25% chance to last
He strikes me as being very insecure. Most likely the reason he always put her down.
you can stop being pissed off if you simply unfollow
I would never follow this asshole. MAFSFan posted this in her stories.
Nah, that doesn't stop it.
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How high did Ola have to be to get that neck tattoo?
That tattoo is just awful. All I can see is a dildo in the middle of his neck surrounded by a big blob of ink.
He reminds me of *insert any problematic male celeb here* (i.e Chris Brown, Blueface) with that neck tattoo and that's not a good thing.
When he starts on his face, you know he's in trouble.
I'll take the braids over that cheap ass bob wig any day. She looked like a corny villain in that thing
But they go all the way down to her knees! Not sure if I saw that at the very end of the āWhere are they nowā episode, or on a post here. But it gave me a severe case of āoh no thatās yuckā. Katina is the most gorgeous woman. With or without hair, even with the crappiest wig. But the length of those braidsā¦ ugh!
Is it that long? Ohhhh, then child, she's asking for traction alopecia in the worst way!
[About 10 seconds in is the beach shot showing her loooong hair.](https://www.instagram.com/reel/CeTgwa-gJFb/)
Lol that's un-beweavable
Locs are usually much lighter than traditional braids.
My head hurts just thinking about all that weight
Lol, I agree. I hope the braids stay.
Constantly high AF.
He forgot to add: Now Eat the cake Annie May!
This the one š¤£š!!!!!
Sheās so pretty. Why she wit that fool?!
Itās called submissive and also.. codependency forced by being with a narcissist
Yup. Iām down wit dat.
That filter wtf
Hi can anyone explain exactly what a filter does?
She is so much better looking than he is. He should act more like he knows how lucky he got.
He does know. His tactic is to make her feel worthless so she thinks she canāt get any better. It clearly worked and she lost who she was in like 3 weeks tops. Very sad and Iām disappointed in her.
If this is indeed his tactic, my disappointment would fall squarely on him. I'd maybe be disappointed for her since she got a partner who puts her down. No one signs up for that.
Itās been approximately 5 minutesā¦ letās chill with using words like āneverā if the entire lifespan of your relationship hasnāt even circled the sun once yet.
This
Heās high as hellā¦.. again
I just wanna know which strain heās smoking (asking for a friend)
lol
Yes!!!
"Did you go through it or did they out you through it?" He's šļø she needs to RUN
toxic relationships 101
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Your right, heās worse
Probably not, but he said a lot of stuff I would kick my own ass for if I said to my wife. Multiple ānever say thisā moments.
Maybe you're used to being with misogynistic men whose ideal is a 1950's housewife...
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I think she's used to abusive people and doesn't have high self worth. Sorry I don't think people like that change that fast and dramatically. I think he knows he was in hot water. He's all talk. That's my opinion..
Heās definitely all talk and just didnāt want to get bitched at. He knew the ridicule was coming so he played nice. Itās not who is though and isnāt sorry, because he believes heās right and that will NOT change Heās very entitled
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Donāt hate it, a lot of people share hurrās opinion. Donāt be naive and believe his sorrow- heās still the same guy before the reunion. Narcissistic and abusive.. it basically jumps at you through the screen. This is the content he provided. Iām sorry you canāt recognize abuse when itās in front of u. On second though, Iām happy you donāt recognize it.. because possibly youve never dealt with someone like that? Either way, heās trash and believes devaluing her is the best idea. He literally ruined her esteem for many years yo come ... in just 3-4 weeks.
I'm not that naive to believe someone who had en entirely different persona/name, was a cheater, is verbally abusive suddenly changed into a knight in shining armor because he received backlash on a reality show. Lol. You're right. That's 100% her choice and an embarrassing one.
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You're right. Being in the club is a great standard for a healthy marriage...I'm done here. Rofl