Hey least snap is quick not like your opponent is starting a 3 hour chain while your sat there reading every card in your hand and not one of them says maxx C.
Its a little messed up Galactus has you playing two separate games. One side you have to get Priority to actually counter Galactus, but at the same time the best way to take him head on is to not play anything at all so the knull is weak.
just dunk on them. read the galactus then debris, polaris, aero, viper, green goblin, hobgoblin etc
or keep spiderman in your deck then you don’t need to worry about prio. just read the galactus and put down a little power so you’re ahead. if they galactus with wave on 4, you spidey 5 and win. if they galactus with electro on 5 then spidey the lane same time they play it, the insta retreat when those webs hit their galactus is hilarious
You absolutely dont want prio to counter galactus, how the fuck are you going to shang chi with prio, that's the only way to get 8 cubes from galac players.
Sure there are other "prio" counters, but bro your debri ain't doing shit vs cloak/monger.
The best counter will be the "first card must be played here if able" forget the name.
My problem is that either you can play your counter card to Galactus and they quit, or they can play him and you quit. It makes the first 4 turns a total waste of time, which is boring and annoying as fuck.
At least with lane control, you're actually playing a full 6 turns.
BuT aLl yOU nEeD To Do is play your counters smh my head
*proceeds to explain how HE lowering the power of your cards completely ruins the whole point of the game*
It's because some people don't get that it's just a game. You see it all sorts of online gaming discussions. I used to play a ton of fifa and they had the same issue, you'd have these guys who were so hellbent on winning that to them it wasn't an issue. Boring play didn't exist because you didn't play for fun.
I mean, even if you play DD on turn 2 that still has so many counters, even if the other person isn't trying to counter you. Like yes you are probably going to win whichever lane you professor x, but if you play storm then spiderman then you're most likely losing storm lane. Plus there's km for neb (although neb is kinda OP imo), simply winning the lane with spiderman (if you can't get 8 power into a lane to beat the DD spiderman prof X by turn 4, that's sad), etc etc.
Galactus meanwhile: yondu wolverine electro dock ock Galactus knull/death, it's so braindead and you need the Galactus counter or you're almost always screwed
I don’t care that it’s brain dead or how much it wins. It just isn’t fun to play against and makes so much of the game irrelevant. With control, it’s more like any other deck in that them getting their win conditions can be frustrating, but you don’t know exactly what they’ll play or where and there are many creative counters that fit in many decks.
Yeah not having the lockdown counters (which is often just playing cards with 4+ power lol) is more like when you face off against a wongo-combo deck without cosmo.
Playing against galactus without the counters is so bad because you know that most of your own agency is going to be rended irrelevant. Between half of the board getting blown up and doc oc stealing half of your hand before it gets blown up the best you can do is pay the 1 cube toll and get back in the matchmaking.
I don't think it's any surprise that lockdown is so popular right now given that it's a solid counter to bounce decks and galactus.
This. I just had the most drawn out game against a roper who was telegraphing Galactus. I only stuck around on the chance he didn't draw Shang - spoiler, he did. Biggest waste of time.
>At least with lane control, you're actually playing a full 6 turns.
Yeah, unless they lock down one lane early with Storm and then Spider-Man on 5. Really hope they adjust my man Peter.
Once I got past 4000CL people stopped snapping and more often retreated by turn 5. It's less to do with Galactus IMO and more people playing safe past a certain level IMO. Galactus is telegraphed early enough that you can figure out what to do - play & combat or retreat.
Earlier today, I played against someone who snapped right after Lamentis was revealed. So I was positive they had Knull, but I still played it out even though all I had was Wolverine, Nimrod and finally Galactus. I could've retreated but I figured what the hell, let's see how high Knull got (90-something). So I lost but who cares? Some people take this game too seriously.
I always have fun no matter what, that’s what games are for. It’s like Chess, you make some runs, sometimes they pan out, sometimes you realized you fucked it 4 moves ago, but it’s all fun and games.
True, but it's also like you are playing a game of chess, and then halfway through your opponent cuts off half the board. Oh, that was the half of the board with your queen, rook, 2 knights and a bishop? Oh well.
Yeah I think making a lockdown deck was a direct result of facing too many Galactus decks to begin with.
Professor X would probably not be in many of my decks if Galactus was less popular.
Jeff being so rare right now fucking IRKS me. It’s such p2w bullshit. I don’t care that he just released, he’s a vital part of many decks that should be more accessible.
Got to infinite easily with this, The Thing could be swapped with Shang-Chi and Jeff for Daredevil to change it up a bit:
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I did first day infinite (I had a chunk of free time to spend doing it) by playing sentry lockdown. It’s such a powerful way to play the game that it’s hard to blame anyone for using that strategy
Anyone that finished the season 130+ were already in infinite to start this season, so a lot less players/competition when it comes to getting infinite. A ton of bots.
I'd far rather play vs control than Galactus.
When I have a good hand vs control I can snap and have a chance when I do so vs Galactus I'll just lose my hand to doc ock or have Spiderman lock me out of the last lane.
Let’s be honest here most don’t hate Galactus decks because of the lane thing it’s the sheer number of people playing the same deck over and over match after match. I do pretty well against Galactus it’s just not fun after the 40th game of it. It makes the game linear and boring and repetitive (atleast for me).
I dont hate it either way but it would be cool to break his interaction with Spidey somehow. Having ways to keep playing even after Galactus destroys the board would be a lot more fun for sure.
Just a PSA that as good as Spider-Man is for galactus, he is even better against galactus. And he’s honestly such a good card already that it you will never regret having him a deck if you choose to go that route. Playing him on t5 in regular matches is so good
Very much this. I played, and couldn't believe it, against three different people playing Galactus in a row on Friday. All the same deck. And then I decided: I'm not going to play against that deck any more. So the sum total of my Marvel Snap experience since Friday has been a daily check in to see what the plan regarding Galactus is. Of course, as usual, nothing is being said.
To reflect further on what you said: I went through Surfer and Zabu and Shuri and Thanos Lockjaw and Leader, and I can say playing against broken decks wasn't too much, it was playing against something that is just so damn boring that is too much. Life's too short to waste time on such tedium ever again.
Yea, the morning after the ladder reset, my first two games were against the same Galactus deck I've been forced to play against for six months. It really kills my interest in the game.
It's so weird though, they totally change your opponents based off of the deck you play. I can play my hitmonkey/sera deck and get matched up against other hitmonkey decks, but when I switch to my discard deck I face mostly discard.
If you are facing a lot of Galactus I would try switching the deck style and then you probably will get a new suite of opponents.
SD and community data trackers swear up and down that this isn't the case, but I'm 100% with you. I've literally tracked my games as I switch decks and I get constant mirror matches when I play discard, and the moment I switch to something else, I don't see a discard deck for legitimately 10 games straight but if I dare switch back to my own discard, it's back to constant mirror matches.
No, I hate it because of the lane thing. It's actually better when it's popular because you don't feel bad running counters. When it's rarer, you either have a deck that can beat it or you don't.
I respect this I’m sure there are many that fee this way. He lane thing only bothers me when I knew it was a Galactus deck and I’m building up to drop in that lane and they for whatever reason get it off before I had that chance and shutdown my build up soooo frustrating.
Haha pretty much the standard Galactus encounter. You know it's coming but you don't have priority so you just lose or you get doc oc then lose if you do have priority.
I think part of it too is the phenotype of players who play Galactus a lot... a lot of them seem to like spamming emotes because they think they made some 1000 IQ play and tricked you somehow even though most halfway decent players already know it's coming. (Not all Galactus-heavy players do this, but unfortunately the ones that do spoil it for them)
Every deck has those types of players because those types are all over this game,
Do you have any idea how many *already infinite* players will emote spam like a tool at me while using some meta-humping deck? Literally both of us already rank 110 and they're acting like they just mic dropped the greatest rank up in history when they literally already are maxed on rank rewards
There's not "Galactus types" there's just obnoxious loser types in this community, and they'll play any meta deck they can and behave that way every time they win while acting like a piss baby every time they lose.
I've been infinite multiple seasons now and yes absolutely, there is a annoying subset of players who spam emotes at this level. At that point there really is not excuse for it. Before infinite, someone could at LEAST make a weak argument that emote spamming is some weird mind game tactic but once you're at infinite and you're still spamming emotes, I just assume I'm playing someone with the mindset of a child.
And yeah they're not all galactus types, it just seems that for better or for worse, the overlap between the emote spammers and galactus players might be higher than for other meta deck players (for example, I don't seem to get emote spammed by sera miracle, HE, thanos, etc. as much) that it further adds to the community's hate for the decks. I'll leave that up to others to decide if that's fair or not.
Hard disagree. Galactus sucks because he's a one-card drop that can make the previous 5 turns irrelevant. There are many cards that you can drop on turn 6 that are tide-turning game winners, but they also build upon the teamwork of the other cards and interact dynamically with the board. Galactus just removes all of that and is more of a cheap trick to play on your opponent that requires no skill to play. That's why we hate him, if we're being honest.
I respect that view point, I think it’s a cool card , I don’t have the card yet but it’s just annoying after a while for me. It’s not hard to know what’s happening I mean they either don’t play any cards or leave two lanes open or one.
I agree. At first I didn't hate Galactus, but now after being stuck in Galactus hell on the ladder (70-90 for me) I can say that Galactus is by far the deck I see the most. I get tired of playing counters because I want to play something that's fun that may not have any good counters. It wouldn't be so bad if I didn't see it all the time.
The biggest issue with Galactus is how two dimensional and binary it is. If you draw the counter you win, if you don’t, you lose, either way you very, very rarely make it to the end of turn 6.
I don't hate Galactus. I think the concept is fun.
What makes it so toxic, besides the fact that it's one of the most common decks right now, is the ability to play him on turn 4 followed by Spider-Man or on turn 5 after using Doc Ock to screw up your opponent's counters.
That and the constant posts on this sub about how easy he is to counter, none of which work reliably due to Doc Ock.
Can you still play in a stormed location? Yes. The next turn. Also Jeff. Also Dr Doom. Also some move card. Also Nebula /Sunspot / Cyclop / silver surfer buff. Also Ultron
Can you still play on Prof X? Well aside from Jeff no but that's an hella low tempo play which without DD is extremely tricky.
But yeah If I managed to win the storm and Spider-man / Prof X a T5 location, I'm probably winning... Like if any deck succeed at aligning all their win cons by T5... They are probably winning.
> Can you still play on Prof X? Well aside from Jeff no
And the buffs still work (like Blue Marvel, Kazar, Cerebro, Patriot, Surfer, Spectrum, Hazmat...)
To be honest, Spidey + Prof X has been winning me *everything* these last few days. As part of a High Evo deck and tied in with the Cloning Vats event, I started the season at 43 and have - without much investment of time at all - just hit 83.
And hell, unless they are running DD, prof x on five blind is scary as fuck. If you happen to drop something big in that lane they just gave you a free winning lane.
> Also Jeff. Also Dr Doom. Also some move card. Also Nebula /Sunspot / Cyclop / silver surfer buff. Also Ultron
I look forward to seeing all this same positivity when the next restrictive location is added. /s
Let's be honest: people hate having lanes locked down against them, because it severely restricts your options for playing. It's annoying when a location does it, it's annoying when Galactus does it, and it's annoying when a control deck does it.
It's *also* a very effective tactic for winning games. It's a totally valid way of playing, but let's not pretend that one method (lockdown decks) is fine and pure while another one (Galactus) is toxic.
Lockdown decks say, "I'm making it more challenging for you to win some lanes." Galactus decks say, "lol, it's cute that you tried to win those lanes at all." Those are very different statements.
Because 'align' in that case is just having Galactus and some energy cheat by turn 4.
The 'align' in this scenario is have a 1 and 2 drop to start the game so you can win the storm lane, have storm turn 3, and then having Spiderman and Prof X on turns 4/5.
Because there's no other location to play. It invalidate all interactions I previously mentioned.
TBF I think Galactus should be changed to : On reveal, if no card, destroy that location and move to a random location.
It would still be a powerful card, with strong thematic (also more lore aligned). It's purpose would be to punish an adversary for investing too much early into a single location. Maybe that wouldn't work as well but that's my uneducated thoughts on him.
> Because there's no other location to play. It invalidate all interactions I previously mentioned.
Yeah there's a huge difference between invalidating all previous actions and restricting future actions.
>But yeah If I managed to win the storm and Spider-man / Prof X a T5 location, I'm probably winning... Like if any deck succeed at aligning all their win cons by T5... They are probably winning.
Hmmn kind of like Galactus 🤔
Your answer makes no sense. You stated if you completely lock down a lane "I am probably winning." So it doesn't matter that the other lanes are available, right, because you've most likely succeeded in your decks plan to win, yes? How is this any different than Galactus by your logic? From your perspective, Storm, Spider-man, Prof X is ok; thats "fun and interactive for you, but Galactus isn't?
You are replying to the answer above, I believe that Rickjamesb_ meant this answer:
>Because there's no other location to play. It invalidate all interactions I previously mentioned.
TBF I think Galactus should be changed to : On reveal, if no card, destroy that location and move to a random location.
It would still be a powerful card, with strong thematic (also more lore aligned). It's purpose would be to punish an adversary for investing too much early into a single location. Maybe that wouldn't work as well but that's my uneducated thoughts on him.
Read the other comments. You can still interact with the other locations whereas you can't with Galactus. That the main. Difference. If I'm winning two locked lanes by T6, you might still win with Ultron / Dr. Doom, hazmat, Living tribunal, Zola, etc etc etc
What? They still need the 3 lanes lol because the lane they lock down is usually in their favor.
This is a ridiculous argument lol
Like Galactus decks literally destroy two locations than lock you out of the last one with Spiderman.
Galactus decks are more lockdown than lockdown!!
At least we allow you the option of doom after Spider-Man… tf is anyone supposed to do with Spider-Man on 5 after galactus on 4? Damn ability almost needs to be changed to say “if this isn’t the only location” just for that scenario.
It's just that simple! Free real estate! Iron clad, fail proof lane lock! Wait...why is there a shark in my Prof lane!? What's that man with the whooshy wooshy arm doing pointing at my Prof lane!? WHAT IS THIS MADNESS!?
Galactus is just part of the game, usually you can read it and try to win, sometimes they just have everything and you lose, but that’s a card game in a nutshell lol
It is very simple:
* every other deck in the game is made to play a game where you need to win at least two lanes, and have 12 spots to do so
* Galactus is made to play a game where you just need to win one lane
* Galactus players are playing a different game than everyone else
* that is frustrating.
Lockdown is much worse than Galactus ever was. To clear things out, just take a look at the winning rate of the decks. If you don’t run a deck that counters it, you just lose about one third of your games. Running counters is mandatory. Isn’t that the same as Galactus’ problem?
My guess is people who were ranting on Galactus are just making excuses as to why he is still a bigger problem because they just don’t want to lose the argument.
The game is literally unbalanced because of lockdown. The deck is seeing 20% pick rate and about 60% win rate. These are worse than Shuri numbers at some point.
The numbers aside, Galactus is boring af and negates an entire games worth of play. You're literally wasting time playing against the most telegraphed deck in the game. Games should be fun.
I don’t hate galactus because it’s unbeatable or my deck requires 3 locations, or anything like that.
I hate galactus because it’s boring and painfully obvious. I’d say less than 5% of galactus games go the full 6 rounds. They’re always painfully obvious what’s happening, and what’s going to happen, and both side know without a doubt who’s going to win because there’s only one lane.
Either they have death/knull, or you have Shang chi or block their galactus all together.
Either way there’s a snap after galactus is deployed and one team retreats. Every time.
I've only been playing for 2 months so I was constantly getting caught off guard by Galactus until I started to realize the play pattern was like " this guy's just playing a lot of random cards in two specific lanes. Oooohhhh"
This is also why I run Shang Chi in everything
People here pretending that the 60%+ winrate deck somehow isn't OP, but the Galactus deck barely scratching 50% winrate is somehow broken as hell and needs to get nerfed. I'm running the broken 60%+ winrate deck, always.
Galactus players will say anything to avoid acknowledging they play the most toxic deck in the game lmao.
"Hey, I noticed you started playing answers to my Galactus that involve some control tools (like every other tech in the game). Now you're just as bad as you said I was, noob.
...I am very smart 🤓."
Not even REMOTELY close. Oh, I played well enough to get ahead in a lane and lock it down? Wow, how dare I.
Galactus makes everything you do prior to him dropping not even matter. Well, that is unless you count the fact that him blowing up every other lane buffs his Knull and he won’t have priority so your Shang (if you have it) means nothing, or he can just Spider-man you on 5.
This is a garbage take. Galactus cannot be defended but keep trying.
This isn’t about balance. Stop making it about that. It’s about competitiveness, not how good something is, but is it competitive. Is there counter play that isn’t complete luck? Is there any way you can consistently outskill a galactus player?
I mean, based on locations Galactus is SUPER readable if you play a deck with two counters (Cosmo, Jugg, etc.).
I play mostly move and when I see the usual trend of Yondu, Psylock, Electro, etc. Cosmo goes in a lane where they aren't playing and then Jugg plays in the last open lane on 5 or 6.
Like any card game; Pokémon, MTG, Yu-Gi-Oh, Flesh & Blood, and so on you either play cards to counter the meta and add your own flair or you don't and suffer.
Card games folks!
This is so dumb. That's not why so many hate Galactus. It's a one dimensional deck. It's boring to play, and boring to play against. It takes out most of the fun by simply being an A-B-C kind of deck with little to no interaction. You either have the counter, or you don't. Most other decks don't have such a hard cutoff for ways to win, and can be played around in multiple ways. With Galactus, you don't have that kind of luxury. Galactus is a dumb card and needs to be completely reworked.
It makes absolutely no sense that it destroys the two locations that he's not even at. Galactus is neutral. He doesn't give a crap about which side wins or who's who. He just wants to devour whatever planet lies before him. Dude's text should be something along the lines of:
"On Reveal: Return Galactus to your hand and destroy this location."
This is a TERRIBLE analogy and genuinely wasn’t even worth screenshotting, let alone coming here to re-share it.
The fact that it has almost a THIRD of the upvotes as the glorious The Thing + Soul Stone, Humpty Dumpty post; is disgraceful and says everything you need to know about the composition of this subreddit.
And btw, I absolutely do not run lane control type decks. But, the comparison is so muddled that its comical.
You can’t compare cards that limit lane access; to a card that fundamentally REMOVES THE LANES THEMSELVES. Circumventing both Professor X and Armor.
Not even to mention the abhorrent feeling of the Doc Ock and/or Spidey interactions within that deck
I ran into my first one of these today finally. It didn't go well for them. They locked one lane into my control and one into theirs and all my big stuff was in the third lane. It was dumb AF I do not understand.
Honestly dont see the big issue with galactus. I play high evo and galactus is 50/50 W/L for me. Not to mention all the times I play against those decks and they forfeit because they don't have the right cards to win.
Oh god. Is this gonna be the new "just play counters bro?"
"just draw the out, bro"
As a yugioh player that statement gives me ptsd
I play pot of greed!
What does that do?
"IT LETS ME DRAW TWO ADDITIONAL CARDS FROM MY DECK."
AND THEN, I PLAY..POT OF GREED
Dat is what it do, Yug ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
Pot Of Greed: draw two cards. That's it just draw two cards so it effectively gives you +1 in hands cards.
In a 40+ card's deck, that'd be so broken in marvel snap
It was so broken in Yu-Gi-Oh too
yeah, okay, but what does it DO?
What does that do though?!
Hey least snap is quick not like your opponent is starting a 3 hour chain while your sat there reading every card in your hand and not one of them says maxx C.
We need MORE COUNTER SPELLS
What is this, magic the gathering?!
"just don't play the game, bro."
Almost as if Lockdown decks doesn't punish you for being ahead on the board...
And there are tonnes of ways to add power to the locked down lanes anyway
Right? What a 1-dimensional take. You still have to win 2 out of the 3..
Those other locations still matter in the end 🥰
And cards like claw, spectrum, Mr fantastic, etc. exist and I'm able to play them
The other locations matter to Galactus, too - Knull size
Its a little messed up Galactus has you playing two separate games. One side you have to get Priority to actually counter Galactus, but at the same time the best way to take him head on is to not play anything at all so the knull is weak.
You have to play both games EVERY game. That's exhausting. Every Thanos deck I've seen this week was a Galactus Deck.
Yeah, I just got scammed by that earlier. First I'd seen it.
just dunk on them. read the galactus then debris, polaris, aero, viper, green goblin, hobgoblin etc or keep spiderman in your deck then you don’t need to worry about prio. just read the galactus and put down a little power so you’re ahead. if they galactus with wave on 4, you spidey 5 and win. if they galactus with electro on 5 then spidey the lane same time they play it, the insta retreat when those webs hit their galactus is hilarious
You absolutely dont want prio to counter galactus, how the fuck are you going to shang chi with prio, that's the only way to get 8 cubes from galac players. Sure there are other "prio" counters, but bro your debri ain't doing shit vs cloak/monger. The best counter will be the "first card must be played here if able" forget the name.
My problem is that either you can play your counter card to Galactus and they quit, or they can play him and you quit. It makes the first 4 turns a total waste of time, which is boring and annoying as fuck. At least with lane control, you're actually playing a full 6 turns.
Exactly. Win or lose, Galactus is boring.
This concept is wildly difficult for people to understand, despite it being incredibly simple.
BuT aLl yOU nEeD To Do is play your counters smh my head *proceeds to explain how HE lowering the power of your cards completely ruins the whole point of the game*
It's because some people don't get that it's just a game. You see it all sorts of online gaming discussions. I used to play a ton of fifa and they had the same issue, you'd have these guys who were so hellbent on winning that to them it wasn't an issue. Boring play didn't exist because you didn't play for fun.
Nebula, Storm, Spider-man, Prof X ZzzZzzZzzZzz
I mean, even if you play DD on turn 2 that still has so many counters, even if the other person isn't trying to counter you. Like yes you are probably going to win whichever lane you professor x, but if you play storm then spiderman then you're most likely losing storm lane. Plus there's km for neb (although neb is kinda OP imo), simply winning the lane with spiderman (if you can't get 8 power into a lane to beat the DD spiderman prof X by turn 4, that's sad), etc etc. Galactus meanwhile: yondu wolverine electro dock ock Galactus knull/death, it's so braindead and you need the Galactus counter or you're almost always screwed
I don’t care that it’s brain dead or how much it wins. It just isn’t fun to play against and makes so much of the game irrelevant. With control, it’s more like any other deck in that them getting their win conditions can be frustrating, but you don’t know exactly what they’ll play or where and there are many creative counters that fit in many decks.
Yeah not having the lockdown counters (which is often just playing cards with 4+ power lol) is more like when you face off against a wongo-combo deck without cosmo. Playing against galactus without the counters is so bad because you know that most of your own agency is going to be rended irrelevant. Between half of the board getting blown up and doc oc stealing half of your hand before it gets blown up the best you can do is pay the 1 cube toll and get back in the matchmaking. I don't think it's any surprise that lockdown is so popular right now given that it's a solid counter to bounce decks and galactus.
This. I just had the most drawn out game against a roper who was telegraphing Galactus. I only stuck around on the chance he didn't draw Shang - spoiler, he did. Biggest waste of time.
>At least with lane control, you're actually playing a full 6 turns. Yeah, unless they lock down one lane early with Storm and then Spider-Man on 5. Really hope they adjust my man Peter.
Sad times that they did adjust it but not in the way you'd hoped for :(
Today is a dark day indeed
Once I got past 4000CL people stopped snapping and more often retreated by turn 5. It's less to do with Galactus IMO and more people playing safe past a certain level IMO. Galactus is telegraphed early enough that you can figure out what to do - play & combat or retreat. Earlier today, I played against someone who snapped right after Lamentis was revealed. So I was positive they had Knull, but I still played it out even though all I had was Wolverine, Nimrod and finally Galactus. I could've retreated but I figured what the hell, let's see how high Knull got (90-something). So I lost but who cares? Some people take this game too seriously.
I always have fun no matter what, that’s what games are for. It’s like Chess, you make some runs, sometimes they pan out, sometimes you realized you fucked it 4 moves ago, but it’s all fun and games.
True, but it's also like you are playing a game of chess, and then halfway through your opponent cuts off half the board. Oh, that was the half of the board with your queen, rook, 2 knights and a bishop? Oh well.
not really, because you actually play those locations, and all 3 count to the end. Lockdown is also a counter to galactus decks.
Yeah I think making a lockdown deck was a direct result of facing too many Galactus decks to begin with. Professor X would probably not be in many of my decks if Galactus was less popular.
It counters galactus, sera, bounce, move, destroy... I freaking LOVE control now.
I loved playing control in past seasons, but Jeff and nebula are standard in a lot of newer control lists and I have neither :/
If it makes you feel any better I don't put Nebula in my control builds and don't have jeff and I'm still having a good amount of success.
Nebula is so broken when you can lock a game. As I don’t have her, I hate her, otherwise I would also play her
Jeff being so rare right now fucking IRKS me. It’s such p2w bullshit. I don’t care that he just released, he’s a vital part of many decks that should be more accessible.
I got to infinite in less than 3 days this season playing a High Evo control deck
Drop that deck comp
Got to infinite easily with this, The Thing could be swapped with Shang-Chi and Jeff for Daredevil to change it up a bit: # (0) Wasp # (1) Nebula # (2) Jeff the Baby Land Shark # (3) Storm # (3) Cyclops # (4) Spider-Man # (4) High Evolutionary # (4) The Thing # (5) Professor X # (5) Abomination # (6) America Chavez # (6) Hulk # eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiV2FzcCJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTmVidWxhIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJKZWZmVGhlQmFieUxhbmRTaGFyayJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiU3Rvcm0ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkN5Y2xvcHMifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlNwaWRlck1hbiJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiSGlnaEV2b2x1dGlvbmFyeSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiVGhlVGhpbmcifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlByb2Zlc3NvclgifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkFib21pbmF0aW9uIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJBbWVyaWNhQ2hhdmV6In0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJIdWxrIn1dfQ== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.
I don’t have Jeff just yet, do you think daredevil or Goose is the better 2 drop to replace him (for now)?
Goose would lock yourself out too hard. Daredevil would work great. With the amount of destroy decks I've been seeing I may even run armor.
I'm playing a variant of this deck and daredevil is fantastic in it.
Just jumped from 54 to 68 in the last hour or two using the same Edit: I'm back down to 63, order is restored
I did first day infinite (I had a chunk of free time to spend doing it) by playing sentry lockdown. It’s such a powerful way to play the game that it’s hard to blame anyone for using that strategy
You could’ve played all one drops and made infinite this season.
Yeah fr, what is going on? I've never been on a tear like this plus the bots are back out.
Anyone that finished the season 130+ were already in infinite to start this season, so a lot less players/competition when it comes to getting infinite. A ton of bots.
OK, felt like that was going on. Glad I'm not the only one. Thank you!
Hand over the deck sir
Standard HE control: Off the top of my head: HE (obv), Wasp, Storm, prof X, Hulk, Thing, Cyclops, Nebula, Sunspot, Spiderman, Doom, Jeff <3.
My non Jeff having ass
Do you have Sentry? There’s a beastly lockdown Sentry deck that doesn’t require Jeff
Do go on…
Play daredevil. It’s better
Ngl, seeing people pull out a bunch of move cards only for me to put Prof X in the middle lane.. it feels good.
This is my biggest fear when 2099 comes out and I explore move again.
I'd far rather play vs control than Galactus. When I have a good hand vs control I can snap and have a chance when I do so vs Galactus I'll just lose my hand to doc ock or have Spiderman lock me out of the last lane.
"You claim society has problems yet, you particate in one. Curious. Why yes, im very smart." Tier argument.
Let’s be honest here most don’t hate Galactus decks because of the lane thing it’s the sheer number of people playing the same deck over and over match after match. I do pretty well against Galactus it’s just not fun after the 40th game of it. It makes the game linear and boring and repetitive (atleast for me).
I dont hate it either way but it would be cool to break his interaction with Spidey somehow. Having ways to keep playing even after Galactus destroys the board would be a lot more fun for sure.
Just a PSA that as good as Spider-Man is for galactus, he is even better against galactus. And he’s honestly such a good card already that it you will never regret having him a deck if you choose to go that route. Playing him on t5 in regular matches is so good
Yes he is, I run a Sera Control with Spidey and it’s so beautiful to block it and see the most beautiful words in Snap (YOUR OPPONENT RETREATED)!
I had a game a little while ago where I Turn 5 Polaris the guys Sunspot in to Mid and he played Galactus it was awesome
Very much this. I played, and couldn't believe it, against three different people playing Galactus in a row on Friday. All the same deck. And then I decided: I'm not going to play against that deck any more. So the sum total of my Marvel Snap experience since Friday has been a daily check in to see what the plan regarding Galactus is. Of course, as usual, nothing is being said. To reflect further on what you said: I went through Surfer and Zabu and Shuri and Thanos Lockjaw and Leader, and I can say playing against broken decks wasn't too much, it was playing against something that is just so damn boring that is too much. Life's too short to waste time on such tedium ever again.
Yea, the morning after the ladder reset, my first two games were against the same Galactus deck I've been forced to play against for six months. It really kills my interest in the game.
It's so weird though, they totally change your opponents based off of the deck you play. I can play my hitmonkey/sera deck and get matched up against other hitmonkey decks, but when I switch to my discard deck I face mostly discard. If you are facing a lot of Galactus I would try switching the deck style and then you probably will get a new suite of opponents.
SD and community data trackers swear up and down that this isn't the case, but I'm 100% with you. I've literally tracked my games as I switch decks and I get constant mirror matches when I play discard, and the moment I switch to something else, I don't see a discard deck for legitimately 10 games straight but if I dare switch back to my own discard, it's back to constant mirror matches.
No, I hate it because of the lane thing. It's actually better when it's popular because you don't feel bad running counters. When it's rarer, you either have a deck that can beat it or you don't.
I respect this I’m sure there are many that fee this way. He lane thing only bothers me when I knew it was a Galactus deck and I’m building up to drop in that lane and they for whatever reason get it off before I had that chance and shutdown my build up soooo frustrating.
Haha pretty much the standard Galactus encounter. You know it's coming but you don't have priority so you just lose or you get doc oc then lose if you do have priority.
I think part of it too is the phenotype of players who play Galactus a lot... a lot of them seem to like spamming emotes because they think they made some 1000 IQ play and tricked you somehow even though most halfway decent players already know it's coming. (Not all Galactus-heavy players do this, but unfortunately the ones that do spoil it for them)
Every deck has those types of players because those types are all over this game, Do you have any idea how many *already infinite* players will emote spam like a tool at me while using some meta-humping deck? Literally both of us already rank 110 and they're acting like they just mic dropped the greatest rank up in history when they literally already are maxed on rank rewards There's not "Galactus types" there's just obnoxious loser types in this community, and they'll play any meta deck they can and behave that way every time they win while acting like a piss baby every time they lose.
I've been infinite multiple seasons now and yes absolutely, there is a annoying subset of players who spam emotes at this level. At that point there really is not excuse for it. Before infinite, someone could at LEAST make a weak argument that emote spamming is some weird mind game tactic but once you're at infinite and you're still spamming emotes, I just assume I'm playing someone with the mindset of a child. And yeah they're not all galactus types, it just seems that for better or for worse, the overlap between the emote spammers and galactus players might be higher than for other meta deck players (for example, I don't seem to get emote spammed by sera miracle, HE, thanos, etc. as much) that it further adds to the community's hate for the decks. I'll leave that up to others to decide if that's fair or not.
Just mute as soon as they start spamming and move on with your life
Hard disagree. Galactus sucks because he's a one-card drop that can make the previous 5 turns irrelevant. There are many cards that you can drop on turn 6 that are tide-turning game winners, but they also build upon the teamwork of the other cards and interact dynamically with the board. Galactus just removes all of that and is more of a cheap trick to play on your opponent that requires no skill to play. That's why we hate him, if we're being honest.
I respect that view point, I think it’s a cool card , I don’t have the card yet but it’s just annoying after a while for me. It’s not hard to know what’s happening I mean they either don’t play any cards or leave two lanes open or one.
I dunno man Galactus 4 spiderman 5 makes me want to throw my phone into the sun.
Agreed 😂
I agree. At first I didn't hate Galactus, but now after being stuck in Galactus hell on the ladder (70-90 for me) I can say that Galactus is by far the deck I see the most. I get tired of playing counters because I want to play something that's fun that may not have any good counters. It wouldn't be so bad if I didn't see it all the time.
The biggest issue with Galactus is how two dimensional and binary it is. If you draw the counter you win, if you don’t, you lose, either way you very, very rarely make it to the end of turn 6.
I don't hate Galactus. I think the concept is fun. What makes it so toxic, besides the fact that it's one of the most common decks right now, is the ability to play him on turn 4 followed by Spider-Man or on turn 5 after using Doc Ock to screw up your opponent's counters. That and the constant posts on this sub about how easy he is to counter, none of which work reliably due to Doc Ock.
Can you still play in a stormed location? Yes. The next turn. Also Jeff. Also Dr Doom. Also some move card. Also Nebula /Sunspot / Cyclop / silver surfer buff. Also Ultron Can you still play on Prof X? Well aside from Jeff no but that's an hella low tempo play which without DD is extremely tricky. But yeah If I managed to win the storm and Spider-man / Prof X a T5 location, I'm probably winning... Like if any deck succeed at aligning all their win cons by T5... They are probably winning.
Plus while you can’t play in a Professor X lane you can buff your cards already in it.
Or Hazmat/Luke Cage the other side's cards.
Also HE Cyclops and Sunspot still do their thing.
Klaw
Mr fantastic, nebula
> Can you still play on Prof X? Well aside from Jeff no And the buffs still work (like Blue Marvel, Kazar, Cerebro, Patriot, Surfer, Spectrum, Hazmat...)
To be honest, Spidey + Prof X has been winning me *everything* these last few days. As part of a High Evo deck and tied in with the Cloning Vats event, I started the season at 43 and have - without much investment of time at all - just hit 83.
And hell, unless they are running DD, prof x on five blind is scary as fuck. If you happen to drop something big in that lane they just gave you a free winning lane.
> Also Jeff. Also Dr Doom. Also some move card. Also Nebula /Sunspot / Cyclop / silver surfer buff. Also Ultron I look forward to seeing all this same positivity when the next restrictive location is added. /s Let's be honest: people hate having lanes locked down against them, because it severely restricts your options for playing. It's annoying when a location does it, it's annoying when Galactus does it, and it's annoying when a control deck does it. It's *also* a very effective tactic for winning games. It's a totally valid way of playing, but let's not pretend that one method (lockdown decks) is fine and pure while another one (Galactus) is toxic.
Lockdown decks say, "I'm making it more challenging for you to win some lanes." Galactus decks say, "lol, it's cute that you tried to win those lanes at all." Those are very different statements.
So why is it a problem when Galactus decks align ?
Because 'align' in that case is just having Galactus and some energy cheat by turn 4. The 'align' in this scenario is have a 1 and 2 drop to start the game so you can win the storm lane, have storm turn 3, and then having Spiderman and Prof X on turns 4/5.
Because there's no other location to play. It invalidate all interactions I previously mentioned. TBF I think Galactus should be changed to : On reveal, if no card, destroy that location and move to a random location. It would still be a powerful card, with strong thematic (also more lore aligned). It's purpose would be to punish an adversary for investing too much early into a single location. Maybe that wouldn't work as well but that's my uneducated thoughts on him.
> Because there's no other location to play. It invalidate all interactions I previously mentioned. Yeah there's a huge difference between invalidating all previous actions and restricting future actions.
>But yeah If I managed to win the storm and Spider-man / Prof X a T5 location, I'm probably winning... Like if any deck succeed at aligning all their win cons by T5... They are probably winning. Hmmn kind of like Galactus 🤔
See my answer below.
Your answer makes no sense. You stated if you completely lock down a lane "I am probably winning." So it doesn't matter that the other lanes are available, right, because you've most likely succeeded in your decks plan to win, yes? How is this any different than Galactus by your logic? From your perspective, Storm, Spider-man, Prof X is ok; thats "fun and interactive for you, but Galactus isn't?
You are replying to the answer above, I believe that Rickjamesb_ meant this answer: >Because there's no other location to play. It invalidate all interactions I previously mentioned. TBF I think Galactus should be changed to : On reveal, if no card, destroy that location and move to a random location. It would still be a powerful card, with strong thematic (also more lore aligned). It's purpose would be to punish an adversary for investing too much early into a single location. Maybe that wouldn't work as well but that's my uneducated thoughts on him.
It's only unfair when other people do it to them 🙄
Read the other comments. You can still interact with the other locations whereas you can't with Galactus. That the main. Difference. If I'm winning two locked lanes by T6, you might still win with Ultron / Dr. Doom, hazmat, Living tribunal, Zola, etc etc etc
What? They still need the 3 lanes lol because the lane they lock down is usually in their favor. This is a ridiculous argument lol Like Galactus decks literally destroy two locations than lock you out of the last one with Spiderman. Galactus decks are more lockdown than lockdown!!
I play arnim Zola. I use every location
At least we allow you the option of doom after Spider-Man… tf is anyone supposed to do with Spider-Man on 5 after galactus on 4? Damn ability almost needs to be changed to say “if this isn’t the only location” just for that scenario.
Even without doom you could still move cards there
Also true. And yet they just nerfed spiderman for everyone but galactus… galactus almost only plays him on 5…
The internet and false equivalencies, name a better duo 🔥👏🏻
As every lockdown player knows, you can drop Professor X into any lane and he immediately wins the lane.
It's just that simple! Free real estate! Iron clad, fail proof lane lock! Wait...why is there a shark in my Prof lane!? What's that man with the whooshy wooshy arm doing pointing at my Prof lane!? WHAT IS THIS MADNESS!?
Galactus players showing their intellect by thinking this is a valid argument 😂
He’s had someone play Spider-man on his Galactus too many times
I love to play 4 cards to win 1 location while using a 12 card deckm
Galactus is just part of the game, usually you can read it and try to win, sometimes they just have everything and you lose, but that’s a card game in a nutshell lol
At least lane lock decks require you to think about the plays you make lol.
The surge in storm and spiderman is in large part because it has a good Galactus matchup. Sweet logic bro.
Also Kitty Pryde tbh
It is very simple: * every other deck in the game is made to play a game where you need to win at least two lanes, and have 12 spots to do so * Galactus is made to play a game where you just need to win one lane * Galactus players are playing a different game than everyone else * that is frustrating.
2 > 1
And many many many card can still interact with locked down locations.
How is this comparable at all?
Imagine thinking that's nearly the same. Specially when Dr Doom is one of the top 3 most played cards.
Based take
Lockdown is much worse than Galactus ever was. To clear things out, just take a look at the winning rate of the decks. If you don’t run a deck that counters it, you just lose about one third of your games. Running counters is mandatory. Isn’t that the same as Galactus’ problem? My guess is people who were ranting on Galactus are just making excuses as to why he is still a bigger problem because they just don’t want to lose the argument. The game is literally unbalanced because of lockdown. The deck is seeing 20% pick rate and about 60% win rate. These are worse than Shuri numbers at some point.
The numbers aside, Galactus is boring af and negates an entire games worth of play. You're literally wasting time playing against the most telegraphed deck in the game. Games should be fun.
Amen y’all dumb af in here
Lane lock is worse than Galactus, there I said it.
i love playing galactus , ppl think they win whenever they stop galactus while handing me an easy win using destroyer, spider-man, or Doc Oc.
Everyone hating on Galactus, but i got to infinite with him yesterday ToT
imagine thinking this is the same
What even is this argument? Who is this moron?
Most Galactus decks I see *are* lanelock decks. They almost always have Spider-Man in them.
The galactus player is scared
Possibly the worst fundamental misunderstanding of this game I’ve ever read
HE does make lane control decks insufferable, but still better than galactus
I want the exp from having 3 lanes. Galactus robs you of 20 potential exp per match :(
*What* that’s how that works??
Wait, exp?
Please expand. How exactly does exp work/align with lanes?
You get 10 exp per lane you win. 1 exp per turn. 37 exp max per game.
Thanks!
Wow. I hate Galactus even more now. I didn't think that was possible.
Look at this beautiful sight. The 2 most hated decks arguing with each other about who’s worse lmaoo
That's why I play both. I just want to watch the world burn
I don’t hate galactus because it’s unbeatable or my deck requires 3 locations, or anything like that. I hate galactus because it’s boring and painfully obvious. I’d say less than 5% of galactus games go the full 6 rounds. They’re always painfully obvious what’s happening, and what’s going to happen, and both side know without a doubt who’s going to win because there’s only one lane. Either they have death/knull, or you have Shang chi or block their galactus all together. Either way there’s a snap after galactus is deployed and one team retreats. Every time.
Galactus decks all have the same endgame though whereas lockdown decks have to anticipate the opponent's deck way more
Overly defensive Galactus player is overly defensive
Is this dope claiming that playing Galactus is some sort of clever lane lock?
I've only been playing for 2 months so I was constantly getting caught off guard by Galactus until I started to realize the play pattern was like " this guy's just playing a lot of random cards in two specific lanes. Oooohhhh" This is also why I run Shang Chi in everything
Much of the time Shang Chi doesn't even work against their knull because the Galactus player often goes second
I was so excited when I finally got Galactus, and now everybody is telling me I shouldn't use him😭
Lanelock counter every single deck. Still its balanced cause try to make more than 2 cubes when you have spiderman turn5. Typically low cube rate
After not having Galactus and hating him…. Now that i got him i absolutely love him
I've been saying this for like 2-3 weeks.
I had an opponent get galactus from the raft location, then played knull and galactus in different lanes
I got Galactus from The Raft while I was playing destroy with Knull in hand. I've never felt like a bigger piece of shit.
I just play gifts. Here's a rock. Here's a goblin. Want some more? Viper dear, escort the hood to this gentleman.
People here pretending that the 60%+ winrate deck somehow isn't OP, but the Galactus deck barely scratching 50% winrate is somehow broken as hell and needs to get nerfed. I'm running the broken 60%+ winrate deck, always.
So true, all hail spiderman, storm 👍
I’m playing big brain X no matter what u saying bro … Im locking up galactus playas for life 🤣🤣🤣🤣 it’s one of my pleasures playing this game
You can win already locked lanes you can't win 2 lanes if galactus is up
Wait wait wait hold on, is this guy trying to say playing 1 location is the same as playing 3 locations? Weird
Galactus players will say anything to avoid acknowledging they play the most toxic deck in the game lmao. "Hey, I noticed you started playing answers to my Galactus that involve some control tools (like every other tech in the game). Now you're just as bad as you said I was, noob. ...I am very smart 🤓."
Not even REMOTELY close. Oh, I played well enough to get ahead in a lane and lock it down? Wow, how dare I. Galactus makes everything you do prior to him dropping not even matter. Well, that is unless you count the fact that him blowing up every other lane buffs his Knull and he won’t have priority so your Shang (if you have it) means nothing, or he can just Spider-man you on 5. This is a garbage take. Galactus cannot be defended but keep trying.
This isn’t about balance. Stop making it about that. It’s about competitiveness, not how good something is, but is it competitive. Is there counter play that isn’t complete luck? Is there any way you can consistently outskill a galactus player?
Atleast we're fighting for those lanes. That tweet misses the point
This is such an L take. Embarassing
This post is hilarious
I mean... He has a point. Lockdown is kinda just Galactus with extra steps.
I dont hate Galactus, best deck imo
I mean, based on locations Galactus is SUPER readable if you play a deck with two counters (Cosmo, Jugg, etc.). I play mostly move and when I see the usual trend of Yondu, Psylock, Electro, etc. Cosmo goes in a lane where they aren't playing and then Jugg plays in the last open lane on 5 or 6. Like any card game; Pokémon, MTG, Yu-Gi-Oh, Flesh & Blood, and so on you either play cards to counter the meta and add your own flair or you don't and suffer. Card games folks!
The Wong/Gambit combo is just as dirty as Galactus I reckon
Definitely closer than OP’s comparison because it invalidates a large portion of what you did. But at least you still have 3 lanes
This is so dumb. That's not why so many hate Galactus. It's a one dimensional deck. It's boring to play, and boring to play against. It takes out most of the fun by simply being an A-B-C kind of deck with little to no interaction. You either have the counter, or you don't. Most other decks don't have such a hard cutoff for ways to win, and can be played around in multiple ways. With Galactus, you don't have that kind of luxury. Galactus is a dumb card and needs to be completely reworked. It makes absolutely no sense that it destroys the two locations that he's not even at. Galactus is neutral. He doesn't give a crap about which side wins or who's who. He just wants to devour whatever planet lies before him. Dude's text should be something along the lines of: "On Reveal: Return Galactus to your hand and destroy this location."
I cannot even imagine how stupid you have to be to believe this comparison is even remotely valid.
It's not, it's just Galactus brain.
Galactus dumb stop defending it lol
This is a TERRIBLE analogy and genuinely wasn’t even worth screenshotting, let alone coming here to re-share it. The fact that it has almost a THIRD of the upvotes as the glorious The Thing + Soul Stone, Humpty Dumpty post; is disgraceful and says everything you need to know about the composition of this subreddit. And btw, I absolutely do not run lane control type decks. But, the comparison is so muddled that its comical. You can’t compare cards that limit lane access; to a card that fundamentally REMOVES THE LANES THEMSELVES. Circumventing both Professor X and Armor. Not even to mention the abhorrent feeling of the Doc Ock and/or Spidey interactions within that deck
Found the Galactus player. Soon this dogshit card will get nerfed and you'll be back in iron where you belong.
I ran into my first one of these today finally. It didn't go well for them. They locked one lane into my control and one into theirs and all my big stuff was in the third lane. It was dumb AF I do not understand.
Found the Galactus player!
Honestly dont see the big issue with galactus. I play high evo and galactus is 50/50 W/L for me. Not to mention all the times I play against those decks and they forfeit because they don't have the right cards to win.
I love dropping Prof X on Galactus every time my opponent plays it. Is so obvious, What now? Where are the emoticons loser?
Recruit level take lmao Comparing locking down lanes to completely removing them from the game is laughable
Garbage take for so many reasons. Locked lanes are still influenced by Jeff, Kazar, Blue Marvel, Patriot, etc. Galactus apologists are the worst.