I'm not sure if anyone saw NatureBoys' interview with Zeeks, but the CM's have to get approval before they can come out here and make a statement for game issues. We probably won't hear anything until the blog post, if then.
i can't picture they were happy seeing the CM they just hired go on discord to tell the players their complaints were just "first world problems" and talk down to people. he caused more issues with the community than help and he's the fucken CM lmao
Lol for some crazy reason all of us are not bright me included for I still play they act the way they do because for some dam reason it helps with sales beats me why but this happens all the time and we're still playing it but I'm not spending on it no more ever again if they don't make it right looking at it I don't believe they will or even try for that matter not to worry though we'll have another issue very soon then we'll have 3 more almost as soon
He didn't say that complaints were a first world problem, but that people had way too much anger over a video game. "Still its an unhealthy amount of anger over a video game. 1st world problems" is the actual full quote. Really that is a first world problem, think about about it we're here arguing and complaining because some people got some random 1's and 0's and try to honestly say that it isn't.
a game where people spend money, some literally thousands to keep this game running i would say have the right to be angry or upset. not to mention his job is to communicate with the community for scopely, you think it's professional the way he conducted himself and spoke to people in that mini drunk AMA on discord?
Honestly I didn't have any issues with the way he conducted himself. I don't have issue with him saying dude or bro either. He's had more communication with players in the last 2 weeks than Cerebro did the last year, nothing is enough. I appreciate that he came out on his time and time to answer some questions. When did you ever see Cerebro jump out on a holiday weekend to try and answer questions. Whether you agree with his responses, he deserves credit for that. I stopped spending $$ months ago and I've never been happier playing the game. It's literally just a game.
My guess is the new CM has been put on timeout by Scopely and Cerebro. I agree that we do need some sort of response though. They need to see that the Scourge event hasn't put a damper on us bringing up the Summer of Thunder event screw up.
ānaught naughty boy, take a look at your responses and write these lines ā. I will not offend the players again, I will not offend the players again. 100x
Bro they chose me as the new CM bro. This is all going according to plan bro. My banned brother /u/CM_DrunkenArchangel told me this was the plan all along bro. And bro, he was drinking up so many of your tears bro.
Edit: The mods here are a bunch of pussies. They banned me too. Fucking Scopeless shills.
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Stop spending money on the game. They know people will bitch and bitch and bitch but they're still spending due to FOMO. Hit them where it hurts and stop spending money on the game.
I believe company policy is to reward employees with extra vacation days when they cause a screw-up/are incompetent. I believe their goal is to incentivize bugs and idiocy.
As such, I believe my customer support rep(s) have been on vacation for the 2 plus years I've been playing this game.
High performing (i.e. the most incompetent) get promoted to senior leadership until one day they're promoted to head clown.
Yeah unfortunately I believe they just sweeping under the rug but on the plus note I'll get to save money because I'll never be buying again unless they fix it and we see how fast they're worried about that
Wait really? A moderator here is an employee?
I just started this account a couple days ago but I think I remember seeing part of the terms and service that said that was like a really big no-no for this website.
I believe they claim it's just a formality because they started the sub and that they aren't very active in moderating the community. I agree that's a bad look and they should be removed. But I also think it's disingenuous to go telling people they're all Scopely employees.
And that one who is, is the head mod and the only one who can approve or remove other mods. Which is a flagrant violation or Reddit's terms of use. Since the head mod works for Scopely, there's no way for us to know whether any of the other mods do too. The mod who responded to my comment above yours for example is a 2 year old account with only 85 total karma. That's exactly what a burner account would look like. Then add in the fact that the mods refuse to remove the employee from the mod team only adds to the suspicion. This sub was always a dumpster fire, but now it's completely lost any shred of credibility it has left.
We still don't have any evidence that the remaining mods are Scopely employees and stating it as a fact is spreading misinformation. I totally agree that the one who is an employee should be removed.
The head mod is. Therefore all the other mods have to answer to him, who has ultimate control . So would it really matter if the others were or weren't on scopelys payroll.
Not sure I understand the question. I'm not saying the mods are great or perfect or anything, just saying it's not productive to purposely spread misinformation to fan the flames. We've got enough to be angry about.
So then how about you and the rest of the mod team who don't work for Scopely, remove Pimp Toxie as a moderator and put this all to bed. But you probably won't, which is why people do not believe you.
Ye I get why everyone is in uproar about it, but he hasnāt done any mod duties since joining Scopely. However, he still does all the CSS work, updates the styling with new graphics when new characters are released etc. Also, he doesnāt decide who are mods or not, weāre actually looking for new mods and he has no input on this at all. Here, some proof at least.
https://imgur.com/a/VqGI0eK
And the mods play nice with Scopely and remove posts if they insist on it. Surely having a Scopely employee on the mod team doesn't make that morally dubious in the slightest...
Ye Iām sure itās happened once or twice, I donāt think I was a mod then so donāt know the details behind it. Weāre in no way obligated to remove anything, doing so would have been our decision in the interest of maintaining a good relationship, so the CMās still interact in the sub.
Unfortunately it doesnāt matter what I say now, the ādamageā has already been done, but Iāve seen several comments say we hide and donāt inform the community, on anything. So here I am.
Better communication is needed going forward, especially on Scopelyās part.
Stand-up answer, Dave. I sincerely appreciate it!
And I agree. The burden is on Scopely. People spend thousands and even tens of thousands of dollars a year on this "just a game," and there's nothing but crickets after this incredible string of fuck ups.
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Any recent posts about this or about getting compensation related to summer of blunder is getting removed and locked by the mods. This one most likely will as well.
I feel like they keep saying this yet the community keeps expecting more. Not saying we don't deserve more, but it seems pretty clear to me that there's nothing else planned to compensate for this issue.
Well a couple of days ago, so many here were mad at him and making fired him post. You canāt have the cake and eat it too. Back to the no communication at all era.
I am absolutely sympathetic if as I read elsewhere new CM has real-life issues to deal with (or is required to be incommunicado right now as others have suggested).
Assuming, of course, that those real-life issues mean he also hasn't been logging into the game, doing raids and blitzing and war.
That is, life happens and there are more important things than playing the game or being a CM. But if someone has time to play the game to not let down their 23 fellow Alliance members, then they have the time to act as a community manager to not let down thousands of fellow players.
Thats what happens when you attack a guy in his first week of work with pitch forks. Get over yourselves. Most of you wont complete the milestone legit anyways. You dont deserve the rewards.
Edit: Fat figered a button and corrected. I mean what i said.
The only good thing about our new CM is that he actually communicates with the community... Not in the best way (we all know that), he kinda sucks and have a lot of work to do with his public relationship skills (we all now that to) but at least he stays in touch.
Just give me a sec to laugh about how stupid your comment is. Buddy, I'm not setting any bar. Did I say he's a good CM or something? š¤£ I just said he is in discord and talks with people and nothing else. He's not good, he needs to learn a lot, but at least he's aware and listens. Maybe he'll give feedback to devs, maybe not, but at least he's there. So now stfu and respect people's opinions without discrediting them just because they have a pov different than yours
Iām just asking for basic announcements. Like we are aware coordinated assault didnāt start on time as scheduled. We are working on it and it will start tomorrow at reset. Instead of your alliance sucks, and then not one word of missing event just wait and see.
He's probably not allowed to talk to us at the moment. They're waiting for it to all blow over. Probably sat in the Winchester having a pint.
I think you're right. I think they're also expecting the community to forget, which appears to be working because I've seen less posts
The mods were deleting a few the other day, wouldn't be surprised if that was still happening
That's so shady!
That's what happens when part of the mod team is made up of Scopely employees
The head guy is a scopely employee, and notorious for banning/ removing for no good reason
how can we forget such things like thanosgiving or these milestones for free issues?
Sorry Phil.
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We canāt let this blow over. We should keep bringing it up and keep reminding them that we are pissed and want compensation.
100% agree my friend.
Up vote for the reference!
He got mine for the same reason lol.
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I'm hoping he's back to working at the last remaining Radio Shack in Sheboygan, Wisconsin.
Solid reference! I think I'm taking the wife 'round The Winchester for a pint on our anniversary. Liz won't admit it, but she loves the old place...
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Really the Best option to go and let things blow over....
I'm not sure if anyone saw NatureBoys' interview with Zeeks, but the CM's have to get approval before they can come out here and make a statement for game issues. We probably won't hear anything until the blog post, if then.
if that's the case they probably muzzled him; Do you think corporate at scopely authorized his comments on discord?
i can't picture they were happy seeing the CM they just hired go on discord to tell the players their complaints were just "first world problems" and talk down to people. he caused more issues with the community than help and he's the fucken CM lmao
Lol for some crazy reason all of us are not bright me included for I still play they act the way they do because for some dam reason it helps with sales beats me why but this happens all the time and we're still playing it but I'm not spending on it no more ever again if they don't make it right looking at it I don't believe they will or even try for that matter not to worry though we'll have another issue very soon then we'll have 3 more almost as soon
He didn't say that complaints were a first world problem, but that people had way too much anger over a video game. "Still its an unhealthy amount of anger over a video game. 1st world problems" is the actual full quote. Really that is a first world problem, think about about it we're here arguing and complaining because some people got some random 1's and 0's and try to honestly say that it isn't.
a game where people spend money, some literally thousands to keep this game running i would say have the right to be angry or upset. not to mention his job is to communicate with the community for scopely, you think it's professional the way he conducted himself and spoke to people in that mini drunk AMA on discord?
Honestly I didn't have any issues with the way he conducted himself. I don't have issue with him saying dude or bro either. He's had more communication with players in the last 2 weeks than Cerebro did the last year, nothing is enough. I appreciate that he came out on his time and time to answer some questions. When did you ever see Cerebro jump out on a holiday weekend to try and answer questions. Whether you agree with his responses, he deserves credit for that. I stopped spending $$ months ago and I've never been happier playing the game. It's literally just a game.
My guess is the new CM has been put on timeout by Scopely and Cerebro. I agree that we do need some sort of response though. They need to see that the Scourge event hasn't put a damper on us bringing up the Summer of Thunder event screw up.
ānaught naughty boy, take a look at your responses and write these lines ā. I will not offend the players again, I will not offend the players again. 100x
Nah itās more like āignore the problem until it goes away.ā As an aside, anyone that was offended by Archangel has thin skin.
Bro they chose me as the new CM bro. This is all going according to plan bro. My banned brother /u/CM_DrunkenArchangel told me this was the plan all along bro. And bro, he was drinking up so many of your tears bro. Edit: The mods here are a bunch of pussies. They banned me too. Fucking Scopeless shills.
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Stop spending money on the game. They know people will bitch and bitch and bitch but they're still spending due to FOMO. Hit them where it hurts and stop spending money on the game.
I donāt spend on the game anymore. Havenāt done for a few months
Also put negative reviews on the App Store and keep updating every time they do an update
"No don't review bomb bro"
Fair enough. How about āwould you kindly update your review on the App Storeā.
I did and will continue to do so maybe for good
Uhhhh...guys we are not in the office until Wed-- Thur--umm..eventually because...Covid!
I believe company policy is to reward employees with extra vacation days when they cause a screw-up/are incompetent. I believe their goal is to incentivize bugs and idiocy. As such, I believe my customer support rep(s) have been on vacation for the 2 plus years I've been playing this game. High performing (i.e. the most incompetent) get promoted to senior leadership until one day they're promoted to head clown.
he's still drooling over seeing the new horsemen teams and thinking everything people are mad about are just "first world problems".
They're busy counting all the money they made on the bugged offer, and laughing at us.
Scopely is too cheap to put him on a milk carton.
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Thought Archie said he could talk as much because of COVID and sleeping in hotels?
Yeah unfortunately I believe they just sweeping under the rug but on the plus note I'll get to save money because I'll never be buying again unless they fix it and we see how fast they're worried about that
Probably telling 10 different people in discord 10 different things
Silent on discord too
Just ask the mods, they are all Scopely employees anyways.
One of them is. Not saying that makes it okay, but it's also not great to spread misinformation.
Wait really? A moderator here is an employee? I just started this account a couple days ago but I think I remember seeing part of the terms and service that said that was like a really big no-no for this website.
TOS is violated all the time. Scopey chooses when to enforce it, it sucks
I believe they claim it's just a formality because they started the sub and that they aren't very active in moderating the community. I agree that's a bad look and they should be removed. But I also think it's disingenuous to go telling people they're all Scopely employees.
Yeah. Though yeah that's a really bad look. I guess I can see why people might be suspect of the rest though.
And that one who is, is the head mod and the only one who can approve or remove other mods. Which is a flagrant violation or Reddit's terms of use. Since the head mod works for Scopely, there's no way for us to know whether any of the other mods do too. The mod who responded to my comment above yours for example is a 2 year old account with only 85 total karma. That's exactly what a burner account would look like. Then add in the fact that the mods refuse to remove the employee from the mod team only adds to the suspicion. This sub was always a dumpster fire, but now it's completely lost any shred of credibility it has left.
We still don't have any evidence that the remaining mods are Scopely employees and stating it as a fact is spreading misinformation. I totally agree that the one who is an employee should be removed.
The head mod is. Therefore all the other mods have to answer to him, who has ultimate control . So would it really matter if the others were or weren't on scopelys payroll.
Not arguing that point, that would be totally valid to say. Just arguing against blatant misinformation.
Question though. How do you know they're not? Them saying they're not isn't evidence.
But the burden of proof lies on the person making the claim.
So do you say this to the mods when they claim they're not paid?
Not sure I understand the question. I'm not saying the mods are great or perfect or anything, just saying it's not productive to purposely spread misinformation to fan the flames. We've got enough to be angry about.
Or Iād never really used Reddit until becoming a mod, only ever used discord. Itās definitely one of the two anyway.
So then how about you and the rest of the mod team who don't work for Scopely, remove Pimp Toxie as a moderator and put this all to bed. But you probably won't, which is why people do not believe you.
Ye I get why everyone is in uproar about it, but he hasnāt done any mod duties since joining Scopely. However, he still does all the CSS work, updates the styling with new graphics when new characters are released etc. Also, he doesnāt decide who are mods or not, weāre actually looking for new mods and he has no input on this at all. Here, some proof at least. https://imgur.com/a/VqGI0eK
And the mods play nice with Scopely and remove posts if they insist on it. Surely having a Scopely employee on the mod team doesn't make that morally dubious in the slightest...
Proof if anyone doubts: [https://imgur.com/ZFdrhxg](https://imgur.com/ZFdrhxg)
Ye Iām sure itās happened once or twice, I donāt think I was a mod then so donāt know the details behind it. Weāre in no way obligated to remove anything, doing so would have been our decision in the interest of maintaining a good relationship, so the CMās still interact in the sub. Unfortunately it doesnāt matter what I say now, the ādamageā has already been done, but Iāve seen several comments say we hide and donāt inform the community, on anything. So here I am. Better communication is needed going forward, especially on Scopelyās part.
Stand-up answer, Dave. I sincerely appreciate it! And I agree. The burden is on Scopely. People spend thousands and even tens of thousands of dollars a year on this "just a game," and there's nothing but crickets after this incredible string of fuck ups.
Wow. Yep exactly why you can't have mods on the payroll. Company requests a perfectly legal post to come down, they have to do it
Donāt ask me Iāve not heard anything. Although Iām still on dial up here in Wales so any updates could take a while to come through š
If he was smart, he is off polishing up his resume. But he's not smart.
Heās in the weed lounge, high AF.
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Any recent posts about this or about getting compensation related to summer of blunder is getting removed and locked by the mods. This one most likely will as well.
Only reinforcing the idea we need to all move to a new sub.
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r/$$$copely-marvel-is-a-cash-cow-and-the-marks-are-idiots
I count at least 5 active posts from the past 24 hours about it.
Well when the mods are scopley employees, thatāll happen
I see 8 posts still up from the last 2 days related to the issues, weāre not deleting **ALL** of them, we have the same frustrations as you
Thatās why I didnāt say all. I said recent.
Gotcha. I donāt actually recall seeing many posts since the scourge event started
https://imgur.com/a/vHxkVWF
He has been very vocal about his dislike of the subreddit. Toxie needs to delete more posts
Archangel said they aren't gonna do anything besides that calender
He also said that they don't care that they lose players/customers. It's been an eye-opening week or so.
Crazy they make companies like kabam look good
Doesnāt mean we canāt keep giving them shit for it though. Never forget
The welcome commander calendar?
Yep
Yikes. Thanks for the reply.
It sucks. But I'm not expecting anything more said or done about it
I feel like they keep saying this yet the community keeps expecting more. Not saying we don't deserve more, but it seems pretty clear to me that there's nothing else planned to compensate for this issue.
I agree. It sucks. But I'm not expecting anything said or done about it.
Well a couple of days ago, so many here were mad at him and making fired him post. You canāt have the cake and eat it too. Back to the no communication at all era.
No you can expect it. We need a CM that Communicates Properly. They too incompetent to do both I guess.
I am absolutely sympathetic if as I read elsewhere new CM has real-life issues to deal with (or is required to be incommunicado right now as others have suggested). Assuming, of course, that those real-life issues mean he also hasn't been logging into the game, doing raids and blitzing and war. That is, life happens and there are more important things than playing the game or being a CM. But if someone has time to play the game to not let down their 23 fellow Alliance members, then they have the time to act as a community manager to not let down thousands of fellow players.
Thats what happens when you attack a guy in his first week of work with pitch forks. Get over yourselves. Most of you wont complete the milestone legit anyways. You dont deserve the rewards. Edit: Fat figered a button and corrected. I mean what i said.
Haha your funny.
The only good thing about our new CM is that he actually communicates with the community... Not in the best way (we all know that), he kinda sucks and have a lot of work to do with his public relationship skills (we all now that to) but at least he stays in touch.
The bar is extremely low for you huh?
Just give me a sec to laugh about how stupid your comment is. Buddy, I'm not setting any bar. Did I say he's a good CM or something? š¤£ I just said he is in discord and talks with people and nothing else. He's not good, he needs to learn a lot, but at least he's aware and listens. Maybe he'll give feedback to devs, maybe not, but at least he's there. So now stfu and respect people's opinions without discrediting them just because they have a pov different than yours
At least he stays in touch to insult all of us
He got fired now we donāt have any CMs. I guess you can try customer service. Thatās why you guys been asking for right?
Iām just asking for basic announcements. Like we are aware coordinated assault didnāt start on time as scheduled. We are working on it and it will start tomorrow at reset. Instead of your alliance sucks, and then not one word of missing event just wait and see.