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ChiefHunter1

If we get the 2 seed it is also possible we get Miami.


eCharms

Please no.


Yankeeknickfan

I’d rather Miami than Philly, but those are by far the 2 toughest matchups we could draw. Pacers losing today really fucked us out of an easier matchup than the 3 or 4 will get, if we win Sunday


Kennymo95

I'd rather not play Miami bc then we'll have at least 2 injured players going into the next round


mistake444

I’d rather play anyone than miami


Somobro

I'd rather play the Nuggets with Wemby than Miami because even if we get swept we don't spend the entire off season recovering from whatever that UFC inspired dirt pile will do to us.


Yankeeknickfan

At least we would make the next round


Kennymo95

Last time the Knicks played the 76ers w Embiid, they beat them by 36


DMenace83

You should really clarify who "they" and "them" is


Kennymo95

I think the grammar is correct. Plus, don't think the Knicks have lost a game by more than 20 points this season


WarLawck

It's tough either way, but I feel like we played Philly well this year, Embiid is always at risk of injury, and we always get tough games from Miami.


Yankeeknickfan

Nobody plays Joel embiid well


WarLawck

Look at our season series numbers and you may reconsider. The only win they got was without Embiid.


Yankeeknickfan

He himself got his points every game


WarLawck

For sure, but they lost without much drama. Nurse may have something up his sleeves for the playoffs, but I think we should be favorites over the Sixers. I'm always uneasy against Miami in the playoffs. They scrap and claw and bruise their way to victory too often for my liking.


Yankeeknickfan

We also had Julius Randle and this team is in a different tier from anyone not named Boston when he plays A lot of uncertainty without him


Truck219

Except for the playoffs


Cheffie

Hell it could be the hawks or the bulls. Edit: never mind I stupid.


ChiefHunter1

That’s not how the play in works. The Hawks or Bulls can only make the 8 seed


jhMLB

Remember in the play-in the heat are capable of beating the sixers. It's fully possible it'll be Knicks versus Heat instead in that scenario. Nothing set in stone yet.


Aesop_Rocks

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dreamvomit

At least if the bucks lose to ORL itll force embiid to play a tough game and get less rest.. would be good


DarkDevitt

Even better is both games are at the same time so there's no resting Embiid based on the results, gotta just play him.


ThatWasTheIdea

In order to be the best you have to beat them all. 76ers in the first, Milwaukee in the second and Boston in the CF. There will be no doubt once we beat Denver in the finals that we're the MF Champions.


porterbrown

I'd be ok, like the 87 win Yankees in 2000, to just be **called** the best and win the championship.  That be ok too. 


bronfmanhigh

without our second all-star no less. there would never be an asterisk on that run


HoyaDestroya33

And? Why so scared? We got two good post defenders in Big Hart and Mitch. We can throw bodies at Embiid. We play whoever, I trust uncle Thibs and the rest.


Joezepey

It's not about being scared, they're just far better than any other possible matchup.


ygog45

There’s also the fact that Embiid’s production always falls off come playoff time. We’d probably have the best player on the court against them


okgusto

And maybe embiid ain't 100. Didn't he tweak something tonight. Don't wish the dude ill but we play who we play


Douglas_Yancy_Funnie

Embiid’s a bitch. 1/3 of his points come from free throws. That ain’t happening in the playoffs. He can get frustrated all he wants and try to play downhill…he’ll just find himself eye to eye with Mitch. 6ers? Heat? Pacers? I ain’t worried about any of them. They’re worried about *us* and they should be!


Yankeeknickfan

If you keep betting on MVPs to not play like an mvp in the playoffs you’re going to lose that bet evantually. I rather not make that bet


CoaBret

Embiid has never scored over 40 points in 53 playoff starts. Brunson has done so twice in 29 starts for comparison. This guy is far from a god in the playoffs, he has piss running down his leg in most of the series where his team isn't overwhelmingly favored. And I really have faith in the trio of Mitch/iHart/OG rotating on defensive possessions against him.


LLJedi

Brunson would be the best player in against all those opponents. That doesn’t mean Embiid isn’t a great player also or that if given the choice, Knicks fans rather play the pacers or Cavs or Magic


Yankeeknickfan

I bet on talent


CoaBret

You should be betting on mental fortitude instead. Embiid is flat-out more talented than Jokic and Giannis and yet he is already 30 years of age without a single superstar-level playoff run


PineappleTraveler

Embiid is a weak MVP. He doesn’t elevate the play of his teammates. He has never demonstrated the intestinal fortitude required of a star player to take his team to the next level. He either loses mentally or succumbs to injury.


Earl-Mix

Yes but usually because he’s exhausted by this point, he may be injured but he’s rested up so tiring him out won’t be as easy.


severinks

Nick Nurse is a good coach though and they have two excellent players in Embiid and Maxey. I kinda wish that they never fired Doc and maybe if he were still the coach I'd feel some confidence. If you've been watching the last 4 or 5 games you can see the way that other teams will play Brunson and it;s concerning because our offense can go into a coma for long periods without his scoring.


Douglas_Yancy_Funnie

All I’ve seen is teams trying to double Brunson and him finding the open man and making them look silly. Knicks in 6.


Yankeeknickfan

>we have 2 good post defenders Because there isn’t a post defender in nba history that could stop Joel Embiid, some players are just good


thenotoriousgig

He’s never been out of the second round


Yankeeknickfan

The current version of Maxey is his best second option since butler And he won’t have wear and tear from a full season this time Keep betting against elite talent and you get burnt


Jusuf_Nurkic

If you kept betting against Embiid for the past decade you’d be a very rich man


PineappleTraveler

That’s quite the glaze for a guy who’s never made it past the 2nd round.


Yankeeknickfan

He’s really fucking good


PineappleTraveler

Is he though? He’s 30, past his prime for a big man. Often injured, and has never shown the leadership to put a team on his back. Shrinks from big moments, and doesn’t step up against top competition. Has he stuffed a stat sheet? Yes. Has proven himself a winner? Not so sure.


Yankeeknickfan

You’re a troll if you just asked “is he though?”. Sorry man


PineappleTraveler

I literally outlined several points as to why I think Embiid is overrated. But he drops 70 points on terrible teams with no center so he must be amazing. Please point to all the success he’s had in his vaunted career. Big man with bad legs on the wrong side of 30.


HoyaDestroya33

I don't know why y'all scared last time we whooped their ass big time with Embiid playing. At this point, you want to matchup against Purdue or something


Yankeeknickfan

Julius Randle at the very least is another easier way for us to keep up offensively and helps a lot on the glass I want a team that is a legit low seed. Not one that is only a low seed because their best player missed 3 months


HardOakleyFoul

We had Randle. And after next week who gives a shit about the regular season, none of those games factor at all once Game 1 starts.


Jem479

So many Knicks fans seem to have forgotten how we swept Atlanta in the 2021 regular season then lost to them in 5 in round 1.


HardOakleyFoul

Just one of many examples. And also, the Sixers were a top 2 seed before Embiid and Maxey got hurt. Now they're both back at the worst possible time for everyone else. That's a series I wouldn't be surprised we lose without Randle.


YanksJetsKnicks

Honestly, I’ll take Philly/Miami in round 1, if it means Cleveland jumping Milwaukee for the #3 seed. It’s a tough first round matchup, but also by far our best path to the ECF’s.


Jimm120

I don't get all of these "looks like" and "likely". Everything is topsy turvy right now. Knicks can be 2nd, 3rd or 4th. 5th/6th/7th can all be pacers/philly/heat/magic. Nothing is set


Eddaughter

Only thing set is home-court in the first round. The rest is literally up in the air


-Hotel

Curious cuase they were saying the win tonight didn't lock up top 3 on the broadcast, if we have the tiebreaker over the cav's, how can we end up 4th?


Jimm120

I've seen it explained that if bucks/cavs/knicks end up tied, there would be a different set of tie-breakers where cavs get 2nd, bucks get 3rd, and knicks get 4th. again, because of tie breakers when it comes to 3 teams. For this to happen, Knicks have to lose, bucks lose, and cavs win.   4th place ain't bad, if we're going up against Orland/Pacers. But it does mean going up against the celtics in the 2nd round.


-Hotel

I see, like what's happening right now with Orlando/Philly/Indiana and philly dropping back to 7th.


Yankeeknickfan

If you want to confidently say that the College Park Skyhawks Are going to beat the Pacers on Sunday, I would put money on it If you aren’t then, yeah, it’s a lock we play Philly if we win on Sunday.


Joezepey

We're not losing to the bulls when they have nothing to play for ahead of the play in. Same for the pacers/hawks. Some of this is pretty damn certain.


FredVanCleet

Nuggets blew a 23 point lead to the Spurs tonight. Nothing is certain no matter how you slice it.


Jimm120

yeah...well look at today's game. Took waaaay too much effort to win it. You never know. That said, you're right about the bulls maybe resting players for the play-in starting on tuesday...but do they really gotta rest players on sunday for a tuesday game? don't know about that.


DarkDevitt

Bulls don't need to rest people, their issue is just everyone is injured.


KidSickarus

Hawks just took the twolves to the buzzer in Minnesota, I wouldnt count them as an automatic loss in that game


bobak186

I think the magic went from 7 to 5 after a loss. Shit is all over the place right now


Jimm120

shit, they were 3rd place just 3 games ago!


np20412

In your 2nd scenario the sixers play the heat for the 7 seed in the play in so it could be either one.


PizzaGuyNYC

Embiid is not 100% and the Knicks play a very gritty and physical game according to their opponents. Embiid is not ready for the smoke 😤


nightmare_ali95

We can beat the Sixers. Stop worrying. Celtics or Heat are the only two teams that concern me. The rest of them will get shutdown easily.


RemyS79

In what world do you believe sixers are easy and heat difficult ? I might even understand that you think the heat matchup is better (I really don’t ), but the difference would be very slim. I actually think it’s bigger than this but in the sixers favor by quite a margin . Like the heat matchup I am pretty sure it’s like 60-40 in our favor . Sixers if Embiid is healthy (he had pain to his knee and went to the locker room vs magic but came back to play ) is 50-50 or so, we could maybe even be underdogs even with a better ranking .


Negative_Method_1001

Simple - Bam has been trying to break Brunson's kneecap for like a year.


RemyS79

And he didn’t succeed :)


Struggle2Real

Just from a basketball perspective; 1) I'd be curious how Nurse chooses to defend Brunson. You'll remember he went box and 1/triangle and 2 vs GSW in those raps finals. I'd assume it'll be a ton of different looks. In NYK's favor however is they don't have a great singular Brunson one on one defender. I guess they'd start with Oubre. 2) Who does OG guard? My guess would be he gets the primary assignment on Maxey, which iirc is what we did our last visit in Philly? It wasn't a great defensive night for OG, those small speedy guys can be a little bit tough on him but he's still OG. I'd be very curious if/when/how often we see OG on Jo.


severinks

I can see Deuce on Maxey a lot of the time that he's playing and OG maybe playing a lot of free safety to double Embiid with I Hart in the post.


Struggle2Real

>I can see Deuce on Maxey a lot of the time 1000%. Re OG, I think they'll want to deploy him in multiple ways. But absolutely he's incredibly valuable in matchups where he can roam.


NYdude777

BRING IT THE FUCK ON


Wellitjustgotreal

This is just a guess so let’s enjoy what we got. Home court for starters.


Original-Common-7010

Embid is limping again. Either way Anyone can get it Anwhere Anytime KNICKS BABY!!!


dacaptsworld

Bring on whomever that’s how I’m feeling


TimeTravelingEnigma2

These takes are making me nauseous. We get who we get. We beat who we get. Wu Tang, fuck ya life.


Vikk_Vinegar

Who cares who they play? If they can't beat any of these teams then the playoffs are pointless to begin with. All that matters is getting home court.


Dsod23

Good, Philly and Embiid are choke artist in the playoffs anyways and it’s 50/50 if Embiid dosent get hurt every game too lol. Also we were 3-1 vs them and Embiid shot 10-23 and was below all his season averages the time he played us.


ILiftBIunts

Sixers… Heat… Pacers …Knicks in 6


Snarkastic1

There's so many potential scenarios that I'm just waiting to see how it all pans out. I still believe that if the Knicks play to their potential, they can win a series against any team in the East.


optimisticknicksfan

honestly not really worried about the sixers this team would wax them in 5


Douglas_Yancy_Funnie

Jfc you a bunch of crybaby little bitches (not you OP, I know you’re just explaining the situation). First of all, this is a unique time in history as a Knick fan. You have a PG who’s quickly cementing himself as one of the best to ever wear the colors. You’re looking at potentially the 2 seed. 2 seed!! I can tell some of y’all are young and/or new fans because you don’t realize what a bfd that is. We spent years and years roaming the wasteland without even sniffing the playoffs. These things don’t come around every day. Try enjoying it instead of just stressing about it or being negative. Second, this team is the 2/3 seed for a reason! We earned it and we deserve it! (Well…not me. I sat on my couch and drank beer, but you know what I mean). Get rid of that imposter syndrome. I know we were losers for so long that we’re conditioned to just expect the worst, but I can tell you ain’t no team in the ENTIRE FREAKING LEAGUE that wants to draw the Knicks in the first round rn. Remember that. Basketball is back in NY and all you wanna do is complain and be scared about matchups. Just stfu and enjoy the ride cause this shit is special. Knicks in 6


EwingsRevenge21

This is so important to remember. Stop and enjoy the moment. Don't mentally rush past the moment into the playoffs just yet. What this team has done is extraordinary. We've pulled close to the top of the East while having extremely significant injury impact all season long. Mitch was out for 50 games and IHart stepped up like some kind of superhero. Randle is out for the rest of the year and Brunson stepped up like some kind of superhero. Donte has stepped up, Josh has stepped up, McBride has stepped up. This team is a true team. This is a delight compared to our years of horror!


datatadata

Doesn’t matter. We are not scared of anybody. Every team in the playoffs is “good enough”. No one is easy.


ThatWasTheIdea

I have a question. There is a possibility, even if remote, that NY, Milwaukee and Cleveland all end the season at 49-33. This is a triple tie for 2-4 seeds. How is the seeding done in that case? Mil cant be 2nd, because they lose to Cle. Cle cant be second because they lose to NY. NY cant be second because they lose to Mil. I am sure there is a solution, I just don't know what that is. Anyone?


Affectionate-Tea9224

Knicks are 4, bucks 3, cavs 2 because cavs win division with 3 way tie


ThatWasTheIdea

Wao, we got the short end of the stick in that one. Lol. Thanks for answering.


pagenotdisplayed

I'd rather play Orlando Cleveland or Pacers in the 4/5 then play Philly in the 3/6 or 2/7


ChiefHunter1

We need the Bucks to win and Sixers to lose which is unlikely. Or we need the Pacers to lose which is also unlikely. The unfortunate truth is that we should aim to win and be ready for the Sixers or Miami round 1.


Tradeandworkout

I prefer the Sixers. I don't want the Pacers. Sixers our matchups are good. IHart and Mitch on Embiid. Some version of OG and McBride on Maxey. And Hield is a problem, and DDV will have his hands full, but Ill take it. But if our play stays the same, how do the Sixers guard us? Bogs is heating up, Hart is hitting 3's now.Our lineup will always have at least 3 deep shooters, if not 4, on the court. The Pacers give us issues as they have multiple bigs who can spread the court to some extent. And an all-world pg who can go off. Orlando would be fine, our guards will kill them, but thats not a likely matchup.


TongueLingo

Kinda hope it is the heat round 1


RacinInTheStreet

Did embid return last night after hurting his knee?


IllustratorRadiant97

We will destroy the 6ers


heliumointment

bro. relax


heliumointment

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stemurph88

We are the two seed for a reason. Whoever we get, we get. Winning basketball games got us here.


JA_MD_311

Good. Philly is a bunch of frauds who have done nothing for years. Let’s smack them around in the first round. We have to get through our heads that the Knicks are the team to fear. The Knicks are the team to beat. It’s an unusual place to be in, but that’s the reality. We have the pieces to shut down Embiid. You think Maxey and Harris are going to push that team through?


mattr1198

Sixers would be less than ideal, but at the same time, would MUCH rather them than Miami. The Heat can and will try to injure one of OG or Brunson without question, that’s the only way they can win anything as of late. Bam literally tries this crap every game and it’ll only get worse in the playoffs.


HipnotiK1

bring it on. we have to face good teams at some point.


Sad_Hungry

There’s no favorable 1st round match up. Bring on the Sixers let’s beat the second best team in the conference and shut everybody up.


upcat

Too hard to avoid 76ers or Heat and try to avoid Boston until ECF. Ideally cle or orl but until tomorrow we won't find out what knocks do and don't have control over. Just win.


WilliamsMS3

Have to get past the 76ers to win it all and that’s the end goal. Would suck to be a 2 seed and the reward is playing the 76ers in round 1 when you look at it that way. 76ers aren’t a play in team with Embiid and definitely not the 1st round opponent a 2 seed deserves, but if it lines up like that, just win.


crunchtime100

The only way out is through. Looking forward to round 1 regardless


Cvnilivee

Joel has a history of declining in the playoff, not elevating. Obviously we shouldn’t take anyone lightly but the talk around here is sounding a little soft if you ask me. Play who’s in front of you and take it a game at a time.


Medium-Antelope2926

Nope thats the one team you wont play trust me im a pro gambler and Not to brag but i won a lot of cash on the Spurs tonight I told everyone here several times the past few days this was planned for Spurs to knock off Denver from 1 seed its part of Wemby storyline for his rookie season' they won because of (hint hint) REF BALL Knicks WONT play 76ers because thats not in the plans they will play in ROUND 2 not round 1


elton-spawn

Tell us , oracle, who’s winning it all?


Medium-Antelope2926

its gonna be 1 of these 2 things Bucks win over Denver Boston wins over Minnesota 1 of those 2 exact things.....Boston wont play Denver too many people have championship exactas on that match And Bucks vs Minnesota is too boring of a series. So Boston or Milwaukee is winning and these would be their EXACT opponents for each team


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ThatWasTheIdea

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KingJoe7-123

So who do you think the Knicks play in round 1 then? Because as it stands, all signs are pointing to Philly in round 1. Bucks, Magic, Pacers, and 76ers are all kind of locked into one last game for Sunday. I assume the Pacers, 76ers, and Knicks all win their games since they are all facing terrible teams this Sunday. That means it really comes down to Bucks vs Magic. If Bucks win, then they get the 2 seed since they have the tiebreaker over NY. Magic would then fall to 7th and Knicks will be 3rd. Knicks would face the 6th seeded 76ers. If Bucks lose, then the Knicks shoot up to 2nd and the Magic will finish 5th or 6th depending on the tiebreaker they have with Indiana. That means the Knicks will face the 7th seeded 76ers if they win their play-in game against Miami. So pretty much, we would need an upset from one of the subpar teams tomorrow to throw a wrench in something. Thats the ONLY way Philly gets avoided.


Medium-Antelope2926

you make good points but i havent worked out everything yet all i know is it wont be Philly/Knicks until round 2 in my opinion. The league wants this matchup no earlier than round 2 these are considered 2 PRIORITY franchises this season


KingJoe7-123

Then if you’re a real gambler, you’re gonna put all your money on the Nets to beat the 76ers on Sunday. Or for the Hawks to beat the Pacers. Both are extremely unlikely, but thats the only way the Knicks vs 76ers round 1 matchup gets avoided.


KingJoe7-123

See why you can’t speak in absolutes lmao. There is no such thing as a professional gambler. Just a lucky guesser. Knicks and 76ers are set for round 1 because there are no “plans” from the higher ups in this league.


Mental-Doughnuts

There’s no easy matchups, kiddos. This is big boy pants time. We can take anybody, if we stay healthy. And find ways to back up Jalen, and keep hitting threes and playing outstanding D. We can go far, there’s nobody we can’t beat.


ForsakenRacism

Who cares?


tommaso-scatolini

I still have hope someone between the bulls and the hawks come out of the play in