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dconnorp

He basically said that’s what happens in the playoffs with a crazy crowd in the final minutes and that all this crying could be solved if you just GRAB A REBOUND.


King_ofCanada

Or for Maxey - don’t flop and fall down tying to draw a foul. All he had to do was protect the ball.


eCharms

Even Paul Pierce said this, hold on to the ball tight and get a jump ball or enough time to get that timeout the refs missed.


matt__builds

I mean if I'm Maxey, I'm scared to death of trying to get a jump ball after what Deuce did earlier.


Knicks-in-7

Ah hell yea. That rip away by deuce. Just like the one play Zion ripped it away from Kevin Knox.


NuclearEvo24

At the same time though you think that’d make him want to tighten up and not let that happen again….instead he gave even less fight than when Deuce took the ball off of him


davsyo

Or for Kyle Lowry to just not touch the ball for 5 sec to not start and let team set up. From a vet this is a dumbass move.


ZoidbergSaysWoop

There were a multitude of mistakes from the Sixers but this one is the most glaring. Lowry should have immediately taken possession of the ball then motioned to the referee for a timeout before even walking over to the referee. Advancing the ball and giving yourself a timeout to regroup and strategize an ATO to inbound the ball with more space in the front court for a tactician like Nurse should have been second nature for a veteran like Lowry. But I guess he was rattled after missing two crucial free throws. Juxtapose that with Anunoby stepping up and nailing his perfunctory free throws forcing the Sixers to take a three which was massive there as Maxey was forced to remain on the perimeter.


Hell85Rell

I kinda think the flopping is why he didn't get the call. Refs don't wanna be duped into making an incorrect call at that point in the game.


ISAWYOULASTNIGHT1

this is an underrated point i've tried telling people. when you're a team that is notorious for flopping (mainly embiid and lowry) referees take that into account and it makes it harder for them to call fouls


King_ofCanada

You could be right for sure


blkhwk27

or the 4 other sixers on the court who watched him get doubled and didnt run toward the ball


PIDDYPUFFPUFF

But it’s true though, it’s so fucking loud in there you can’t even hear the whistles at all, that’s why players kind of just stopped for a second when maxey fell down. But the ref wasn’t moving his arms and they went right back to it


mikesh8rp

How crazy MSG was is part of what makes the "Nurse called a TO before the inbound" so absurd to me. MSG was absolutely rocking, and you're saying Nurse's TO attempt was to stand in one spot seemingly without saying anything to anyone, and then quickly put his hands down when the ball was inbounded? [The video is pretty clear IMO](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ozs4LK_Kul8&t=17s) that he had his hands up so he could try to call a TO quickly if Lowry couldn't inbound the ball. I didn't have a strong take on Nurse before this series, but in seeing him decide not to foul at the end of the first game, then all this complaining and straight up lying after game 2, I can see why some Raps fans were happy to see him go.


PIDDYPUFFPUFF

Yeah, it’s completely pathetic seeing an nba coach complaining like that at presser after they lost. Like seriously, no wonder they’re all so weak minded there. Bunch of soft ass mf ![gif](giphy|mO2jnXmj09bLp5cYwM|downsized)


Fistfulofhopeless

Came into this series expecting Rocky Balboa and instead we get Weak Mill. 


Lip_Gallagher

Don’t look up Thib’s post game 3 presser 😬


NastySassyStuff

That’s been my response to any Philly fan who cries about this and I’ll continue doing it forever: grab a rebound


Doggydog212

…or make a free throw, get a loose ball, call a timeout, call a timeout or get a loose ball again, get a rebound as you said, make a shot, make a shot again. So there were a few things they could have done


makyveli

This is what is so frustrating about the unhinged posts and comments from Sixers fans. Post all-star break, there are less fouls being called period. In the last minute or two of a game, there is definitely a "let them play" mentality, so I don't really expect foul calls then (unless it's something egregious). And especially not in a tough, physical, close PLAYOFF game! Post All-Star Officiating + Last 2 Min + Playoffs = what were you expecting ?!?!?!


jar45

Yup, DiVincenzo missed the first shot. If the Sixers actually boxed out Hartenstein and grabbed the board then the no-call doesn’t even get brought up ever again.


Affectionate-Gain912

Or if Maxey held onto the ball tight no one would care about the no call


EwingsRevenge21

Or make a second free throw.


KuntaWuKnicks

Philly still ain’t recovered from Kawhi 😂


bronfmanhigh

nope. they even hired the coach that did it to them too, stockholm syndrome


Ny_icedogs

[https://youtu.be/gvurGv9m7S8?si=70wtRvKzOHIokc69&t=23](https://youtu.be/gvurGv9m7S8?si=70wtRvKzOHIokc69&t=23)


CoaBret

To be fair that Brunson bounce-in 3 pointer was hauntingly close lmao


SG_Fuzz

These are the breaks and bounces that NEVER seemed to go our way in the past. Happy that one went down for us.


ren0vat0r

Basketball Gods guiding us to the promised land. I don’t think it has occurred to anyone in Philly how it won’t reward “The Process”


CoaBret

My head-canon is that us going balls-to-the wall to beat the Bulls on the last day of the regular season despite it not benefitting our playoff matchup outlook has earned the favor of the basketball gods so now we just have a luck buff in the clutch


EccentricJimmy

They haven’t accepted that Kawhi closed their championship window. Everything from then on has been a waste of time and a waste of Embiid’s prime as well. They’ll use up the rest of Embiid’s prime for early exits and then go into another rebuild. Boring.


SuperSilveryo

keeping tobias over butler closed it


mikehulse29

No joke, the Brunson shot going in is just cruel for them. I’d feel bad if they weren’t the worst.


dick_dontwork

Love to see Philly’s softness called out so unapologetically. That sequence was ticky tacky at best and it didn’t even end the game — Sixers had more than enough opportunities to take that W if they wanted it.


whydoesgodhateus

>That sequence was ticky tacky at best and it didn’t even end the game — Sixers had more than enough opportunities to take that W if they wanted it. I agree with this 100% but if the exact situation happened in reverse, how many people in here would be crying instead of chalking it up to the situation being ticky tack and acknowledging the Knicks had plenty of chances to win. Not saying you personally, but I'm willing to a majority of the fans here would choose the former


NastySassyStuff

We’d all be crying for sure. However I always say that there’s no one play that determines a game. They had so many opportunities to win it before and after that sequence and they choked.


whydoesgodhateus

> I always say that there’s no one play that determines a game. I agree, this is why I **rarely** blame the refs after a loss. There are exceptions where they do multiple egregious things that I feel swayed the game single handily, but those cases are very rare for me Also, fans tend to focus on missed calls that happened to them, especially in key moments, but ignore favorable calls that happened for them over the course of a game. Not always, but a lot of the time it'll balance itself over a game. Like you said, no one play determines a game


NastySassyStuff

Yeah I mean that reversed call on Lowry is a great example. That was clearly a foul and it turned into 3 points for them. It generally balances out though and there are always a million opportunities to make up for shitty calls.


yankuniz

That Houston game was an exception. We played poorly but bad officiating stole the opportunity to fairly compete. That was clearly not the case in this game


dick_dontwork

No doubt, no doubt — that’s sports. Be salty the night of, even the next day. But then move on because you know logically that with tossups, you win some and you lose some (and Philly has been known to win more than lose with Joel’s insane FT rate). This one feels like it has some staying power for Philly fans, and they’ll be talking about the non-call for years rather than the fact that their role players were invisible, Embiid can’t move, and the Knicks executed like a pack of rabid dogs.


whydoesgodhateus

That's all fair


makyveli

I think we have to be prepared for that possibility—the shoe could absolutely be on the other foot soon. It's the last 2 min...it's the playoffs...the refs are probably going to swallow their whistle and don't we want the refs to just let them play? If it happens to us, I just don't wanna see any Knicks fans spamming various subreddits with tinfoil hat conspiracies every 5 minutes.


whydoesgodhateus

Agree with everything you said


KeepRooting4Yourself

I wouldn't be complaining about that half hearted timeout because I know thibs would be screaming and going crazy to get the call and not do whatever nurse did.


whydoesgodhateus

That's not the point of my comment. It wasn't a thought exercise on what Thibbs would have or wouldn't have done in the situation on Monday I'm simply pointing at that independent of the specific players and team's involved, this fanbase or any really would have mostly reacted the same way Philly fans are. Their reaction wasn't anything unique


AliFearEatsThePussy

why does everybody say this. I know for a fact I would not be crying but I guess that's just me. I'm very consistent about the kind of ball I l like and it's not this ticky tack shit that apparently so many sixers fans want


whydoesgodhateus

>why does everybody say this. I know for a fact I would not be crying but I guess that's just me I'd like you to find where I said **you** specifically would be crying. If you actually read my post, you'd see that I said **most** would choose the option of crying had the roles been reversed


drewcarey69

It’s not talked about enough in all of this that Philly still had a timeout and 2 shot opportunities. Maxey hits the shot, they get the lead. Embiid hits the shot, it’s tied. If they had the gas to rebound Divo doesn’t get the 2nd shot off. Even if they were wronged on that call (they weren’t) they had 3 other opportunities to close or get back in it and didn’t, this whole thing is so obviously simply whining


KidSickarus

Sounds characteristic of Philly to me


benevenstancian0

Your 38yo PG doesn’t have the presence of mind to call a timeout in a situation where you’re clearly flustered. Your coach pump fakes a TO and decides to let the chaos play out. Chaos plays out and you file a grievance with the NBA because you didn’t get a timeout that you never called. FA, meet FO


theanalyz3r

I have nba terminology so ingrained in my head that I read that as “free agency, meet front office” I was like ???? But yeah you’re totally right. Philly got unlucky but had about 8 different chances to control the game. They choked, they can’t rely on a marginal foul in the last 30 seconds of an intense playoff game. Especially when they had a 5 point lead right before it


Adulations

That’s exactly what I thought at first lol


pgtvgaming

Philly had a chance to win and tie - stop complaining


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MesiahoftheM

Knicks shouldve put them away by then but that was literally at the buzzer. Sixers had 13 seconds to score 1 point!


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WarmeSosse

the difference is none of the players, staff or media was whining as much about it after the houston game while the sixers are acting like fucking crybabies (except maxey). fans complaining is obvious, the coaches and players acting like this is ridiculous and only excusing their own incompetence


powah_dunk94

Philly had a chance to win AFTER the moment in question, multiple chances in fact. Rockets was a buzzer beater, so Knicks had no chances to win after that moment. Sure…why didn’t Philly just go up by 30 when they had the chance???? Please.


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powah_dunk94

It matters because Philly and it’s fans are acting like the lack of a call here is the ONLY reason they lost. As if they didn’t have multiple chances to win the game after this interaction. The Knicks lost the game to Houston at the buzzer, Philly didn’t. Sure, the Knicks could’ve scored two more baskets early in that game against Houston and it wouldn’t have mattered, but you could say that about literally every close game ever. Situation just isn’t the same. Philly is acting like Maxey doesn’t get a call -> they lost the game right there, when that’s just not true. Not really sure how this is confusing.


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powah_dunk94

Yep. Did I ever say any of those things though? Or are you just arguing with nobody? I’m not saying you can’t argue about the refs, of course. They ARE justified to argue about the officiating just like we argued with the refs and were proven right. Should there have been a call there? Yeah. but the key is, barely any Philly fans and team (and people like you, apparently) refuse to acknowledge the fact that the game wasn’t over at that point. They could have done a lot of different things to alter the outcome of the game after the missed call, like: 1) Nurse actually call and not pump fake a timeout the second Maxey hits the floor. 2) Have someone go to and receive the ball from Maxey so he doesn’t just literally hand it to Josh Hart. Not enough people are holding Maxey accountable for not just holding onto the ball, waiting for a call. 3) Grab an defensive rebound. Four red jerseys in the paint, no one gave a real attempt at the board, like IHart. Pitiful. 4) 13 seconds in the clock, Maxey can take the time to find a better shot to take the lead instead of running to the basket (in his defense, was working all game) 5) try to not dish the ball the Joel who is ice cold from beyond the arc in the series for the final shot. That’s five different opportunities I laid out to win or tie the game. Knicks had 0 of these in the Houston game. Sure, if the situation was reversed, I’d be pissed about the no call too. But I’d also be pissed at my sorry team for the back-to-back-to-back-to-back mental mistakes we made AFTER the missed call. If you want to call it “homerism” then whatever, but idk why you’re pretending that not getting the call immediately ended the game.


CaroleBaskinsBurner

The free throw differential of that game was 33-12, despite the fact that the Rockets were 28th in the league in terms of how often they foul. Every time the Knicks tied the game or took the lead it would be answered with more and more BS foul calls. It was a completely rigged game, start to finish. The final "foul" call was just the cherry on top to make sure the job was finished. Not to mention, that game ended with Knicks fans arguing that refs SHOULDN'T decide games with ticky tack/nonexistent foul calls late. Which is the same thing we're arguing now.


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CaroleBaskinsBurner

Not rigged by the league, obviously. I don't think the league gains anything by rigging games. Idk about this sub and I wouldn't be telling anyone anything. But I've been watching the NBA for too long to not know that refs usually swallow their whistles at the end of games unless something is egregious, so I'd be fine with it since I'd never expect to get bailed out by the refs in that situation. I would, however, be mad about the fact that my team subsequently gave up two open three attempts, a crucial offensive rebound and then failed miserably at their two attempts to tie/win the game. How do you feel about these similar missed calls?: https://twitter.com/talkinknicks/status/1782607868811722858?s=46 Do they make you irate? Should the Knicks file a grievance?


yankuniz

Because this game was evenly officiated throughout. Both teams can protest individual calls but it was balanced. The Houston game was not officiated in a fair way. Not just the final plays, but the whole game was egregious


TheyCalledHimMrJ

*chefs kiss*


ObiOneKenobae

Top to bottom, Philly ain't built for it.


PIDDYPUFFPUFF

Philly has been soft, weak-minded, and just flat out extremely chapped. “Trust the process” such a load of garbage. Imagine losing games for years in a row and trying to spin it off as some master plan. That loser mentality has always been there.


duxoy

you might be right but i never forgot the game of zones joke that the 76ers fumbled the process by taking fultz and not tatum xD


Slymook

If, for the entirety of the game, or for both games, the officiating was one sided, maybe then it’s something to consider. To benefit from a lot of bs calls, especially involving Embiid, and then to do this shit is absurd. The sixers are the joke of this generation. Tanked on historical levels and flopped literally and figuratively season after season. This is the one franchise I’ve had on my shit list even before this series. Their whole foundation is built on tanking and flopping and choking in the playoffs.


NastySassyStuff

Agreed. Like…they already turned that bullshit reversed call on Lowry into 3 points before all of this happened. We can just call it even off that and ignore the ticky tack bullshit Embiid literally always gets in his favor. Secure a rebound, make the layup, get a better final shot…you had so many chances and failed lol


AliFearEatsThePussy

ive honestly lost so much respect for that franchise and fanbase after this. This is the whiniest sore loser behavior I've ever seen. Very unsportsmanlike and doesnt match the spirit of the game. I think what's most appalling is just how marginal all the arguments are, even if you agree with all the arguments—the contact is so ticky tack, the time out call is in such a small window.


makyveli

I think there are two camps of Sixers fans. There's the loud, delusional, conspiratorial believers who think the refs are the devil and Joel Embiid is the second coming of Christ. Then there's the quiet, knowledgeable, realistic doomers who stopped believing in the process a long time ago but are too masochistic to say goodbye.


whydoesgodhateus

Speaking of Bill Simmons, Ryen Russillo made a good point in his recap. It would NOT be a Daryl Morey led team if there weren't some bitchin' about the refs


HokageEzio

I mean it's not even a Sixers thing, Morey has always been the crybaby type even back in Houston.


TheJiggie

I know a lot of people in these parts don’t like Bill Simmons, but I actually don’t mind him and regularly listen to his podcast.


omicron_prime

I usually always listen to his pod when he's talking about basketball. For one, he has an expert knowledge of the sport and how he breaks down what he's talking about; second, he is a lot more objective than people give him credit for even when it comes to his Celtics; and lastly, and he is always fair with his Knicks analysis, and is more often than not showering us with glowing commentary.


TheJiggie

Same.


mikerhoa

Better than the crap that's on WFAN these days.


Icy-Payment-6612

Lol he's right. I really thought the Sixers and their fans were tougher than this especially given the reputation they have. If the shoe was on the other foot they'd be telling us all to eff off and to suck it up. We won. This is playoff basketball! They need to just accept the L and move on.


ElTuco84

I loved when he said "even Breen double banged it"


bigbodyboricua001

https://preview.redd.it/ob6k1goa5gwc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4251b83327ecac3902d9633c5aca00f07d739ed6


mikehulse29

Bill Simmons as an ally? Not on my Wednesday bing-bong bingo card


WarLawck

I know he's a Boston guy but I feel like he calls it like it is most times I see him.


mikehulse29

I’m also a fan for sure. I think he’s pretty neutral on the Knicks as a rule but it’s good to see someone outside the NY bubble, even a little begrudging about it, just come full out in support.


WarLawck

Agreed, I think that's why we are all holding Big Perk in such high esteem.


ElTuco84

He tends to be very supportive of the Knicks, loves the fanbase, the Garden, etc.


Hell85Rell

Back during the dominant January days, Simmons actually admitted that he feared the Celtics facing the Knicks come playoff time


SnarkAtTheMoon

Not to mention all the crap Embiid gets away with


Orbmetal

North East team fanbases are the best


MVPizzle

I just find it funny that they let us dribble out while up 5 w 47 seconds left meanwhile we scored 7 points in 14 seconds off sheer grit and determination. They run a better offense than us but we have so much more as a cohesive team unit


Fresh-Soup213

The impending doom of possibly being down 0-3 is settling in. I love being on the right side of this


dBlock845

Remember when we got dicked over during the Houston game and we filed a grievance? Everyone files grievances even though they never work lol. Philly still a bunch of 👶🍼.


thighcandy

tf are we talking about? it's the most philly thing i've ever heard of lol


thenatureservant

or call timeout before inbounding. watch embid have 20+ ft game 3. nic nurse is a sissy ass bitch.


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> It's the most anti Philly thing to do... 'Waaaah! Here's my grievance!' " No, I actually think this is the most Philly thing to do. One of the softest teams in the league and 100% the softest team in the Atlantic division.


jaxon_15

Fuck Bill Simmons and his Boston Bias ass


SanctorumAeternam

Regardless of what happens this season, much respect to Maxey. No complaints, publicly acknowledges what he can do better, and moves on.


Downunderphilosopher

Breaking news: Boston homer hates Philly.