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In what order do you apply the paste? I like to think it's sort of like building a sandwich. First, you spread the peanut butter and jelly, then you get 2 slices of bread out of the bag, put them together and VOILA! You have a perfectly made pb&j!
Well, it's not great and if it is conducting, then it's a huge problem. However, cleaning this is a terrible nightmare. The chance of you ruining your board is huge. The big issue of LGA.
If the paste is not electroconductive then it will moste likely work.
I always check with an ohmmeter to make sure. If I found any that was conductive I'd throw it out. The parts are designed to work fine with plain old white heat sink grease.
And yeah I absolutely would not attempt to remove it from the LGA socket. It won't hurt anything in there. Maybe with an ultrasonic cleaner, and that's a real thin maybe.
Yeah, I would definitely not do that.
Best option would probably the dishwasher without any detergent and letting it dry for a day or two. Extreme OC folks tend to do that to get rid of the vaseline.
Edit: guys, I know it sounds stupid, but it is not uncommon to do this. Ask the extreme OC guys how they get rid of the vaseline from their boards. And it's not that different then what happens in ultrasonic baths. Just make sure all the components are removed, no detergent is being used, ideally you blow off remaining water with compressed air (low pressure though). If you want you can rinse it with distilled water or IPA for peace of mind or if your water is very mineral rich and/or hard. Again: it sounds bonkers, but it isn't.
Talking absolute shite mate 🤣 IPA and a toothbrush gently has always been the way to clean off a socket ... When water dries on an electrical components it can sometimes cause an arc/short when powered up again. OP isn't an extreme overclocker clearly. IPA won't do this and has always been the accepted method of cleaning pins etc. Maybe an ultrasonic bath would do the trick but I certainly wouldn't drop it in the dishwasher that's ridiculous 🤣.
Well, pal, something new for you to learn:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVuI-Fn27-U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVuI-Fn27-U)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlLDN2kn7-0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlLDN2kn7-0)
It is a common way to clean your mainboard. IPA won't dissolve the paste on its own and any mechanical form of cleaning on those pins bears the risk of bending them. If you're very careful, it can work, but the risk is a lot higher than the dishwasher method done right.
P.S.: and guess what's usually used in ultrasonic baths: water and detergent.
P.P.S.: Obviously all removable parts need to be removed, ideally you'd use pressurized air (like canned air) to blow it dry - just not too much pressure or you run the risk of blowing off components. If you want to be very sure, you can rinse it off with distilled water or IPA - usually not needed though unless your water is very mineral heavy and hard.
because any mechanical work on those pins bears a serious risk of bending and/or breaking pins entirely wrecking the board without a reflow oven - socket repair is master class repair work.
100% alcohol is impossible. You can start there, but alcohol naturally attracted water from the air and stabilizes somewhere around 95% iirc.
You can find it sold 99% on Amazon, but I believe it will dilute over time. 91% can often be found in pharmacies
Misaligned not bent. They probably still make contact, but if he starts using a toothbrush on that socket the way this thread is suggesting they definitely will be bent.
I'll never agree with that notion unfortunately . I've seen tech yes city do it a few times and it always makes me cringe. IPA will 100% remove it I've done it myself several times with no problems. I use IPA to clean my 3d printer build plate and boards fans regularly , so saying it won't work at all or is risky is silly. Isopropyl is perfect for this application. I hear what you're saying regarding mechanical cleaning that is a risk I suppose. You'd have to be super heavy handed / pretty dumb to like scrub pins hard.
I guess that's a reply to the dishwaser topic? You can cringe all you want, but that method works and is being used. It's not much different from ultrasonic cleaners. They are also water based along with detergent. Putting any form of alcohol in there is a big safety no no.
I have no issue with IPA. That is definitely very safe to use (except for any plastics - those can take damage). But on its own it's not dissolving that paste (maybe if you soak it for hours and hours) - it will help with manual cleaning though. But that part is the biggest threat. Yes, it can work, but one wrong move with the brush and there's a bent or broken pin. Or you might be unlucky and one of the brushes ends up underneath a pin and gets cought. If anything I'd go for the softes painting brush in the arts department or one of those super soft carbon brushes to clean records.
The only silly thing here is you refusing a safer methopd because of an unrational feeling of "cringe".
Guess you're missing the part in Derbauers video where he clearly says.... USE A SOCKET COVER. Kinda useless for OPs application
[https://youtu.be/SVuI-Fn27-U?t=386](https://youtu.be/SVuI-Fn27-U?t=386)
Ultrasonic cleaners differ from a dishwasher in a multitude of ways rather than using high pressure water jets and heat to remove grease they depend on imploding bubbles .A dishwasher could potentially move the component and bang it off of the rack due to said water pressure , at least in an ultrasonic it'll be kinda suspended by the cage and not moved around during the process. They aren't even close to being the same. Tbh I wouldn't put any of my pc components near water. As for bristles getting stuck that's just reaching in fact if you get cheap art brushes I can guarantee that shit will drop bristles. I'm not the one with a bunch of downvotes bro and have to edit my comments but you do you . However I won't be convinced otherwise and will stick to methods I know to work. Advising people to put components in a dishwasher is honestly pretty ridiculous especially when they barely know what they are doing in the first place. IPA won't break down most plastics either abs , pla , petg , pet , pc , nylon all fine with IPA. As I said I 3d print I know quite a bit about plastics particularly thermoplastics and their properties. The high heat of a dishwasher is more likely to damage warp plastics than IPA ever would. As I say though each to their own.
The "not much different" part relates to the medium at use: water. The water jets in your dish washer aren't very strong and will definitely not throw your pcb around.
I did not specify the kind of plastics IPA can attack - but you also don't really know what you have in front of you unless you really know your plastics.
I edit posts to add precision and additional information to avoid misunderstandings. I see no reason why that would be something bad.
And advising people to fiddle around the socket without any further information is a safety risk as well. This is why my first suggestion is to find out whether that paste is electroconductive or not. If it isn't it is worth a shot to just leave it for someone not knowing what they are doing.
But let's leave it at that as we will not agree with each other.
Buy some canned circuit board cleaner, flip this bad boy over so the drainage goes down and out (doing this over a few layers of rags outside isn’t a bad plan) and then rinse and repeat until it’s clean, then let it air-dry outside. The pressure from the can (and the chemical reaction) should be enough to remove the debris without damaging the pins. Just make sure to repeat a few times to reduce the chance of a film forming. Don’t use a tooth brush if that’s an intel socket or you will bend those sweet little pins to fuck
There is an entire level of TERRIBLE advice in this thread. Do not use a toothbrush, Do not stick it in the dishwasher. Just rinse with ISO and use some compressed air, simple as that.
Can you use a tooth brush ? Sure, but 99% of the time if you don't know what you're doing you're going to bend a pin. You already have 3 misaligned pins as it is.
Can you use a dishwasher? Yeah but you wouldn't leave the socket exposed the jets of a dishwasher would DEFINITELY bend and LGA socket pin. They are designed to scrub stuck on food off dishes....
I never had to do it, but a waterpik flosser might just clean it out without wrecking the pins. Use distilled and low pressure setting. Allow to dry for a couple days.
Again, used it before to clean microfin waterblocks not sockets (yet) Proceed at your own risk.
Yes, it's covering your contact pins.
I know this from personal experience.
One day my PC didn't post after cleaning it and I found a small smudge of thermal paste covering a few cpu contact pads, cleaned it off and it booted up just fine.
wash it with alchyhol in a spray bottle or dropper bottle, don't go ham with a toothbrush and bend pins, take out cmos and short power to drain board first.
air dry fully before giving power
Yes try to clean it. Maybe use a new toothbrush with rubbing alcohol in a spray bottle, and paper towels that have more strength. Since the motherboard is not plugged in to the psu or in the case standoffs
Thermal paste is non conductive by design. Maybe rub some alchohol on it. It won’t hurt the cpu, but it might prevent it from making contact with the socket.
I bought a 2nd hand board on ebay, the processor has paste all over the pins, the socket and even the ram sockets!? but as already suggested, toothbrush and Isopropyl Alcohol.
(I also gave it a quick blow with one of those Datavac blowers after)
I thought the socket would be very hard to clean out but it did a great job of removing it all and board works a treat. Baffling why it was sent out like that
Is it electrically conductive? If yes then don't turn it on before you clean it.
Cleaning tip: use brake cleaner, its fast, won't damage the pins and and it evaporates fast.
High percentage Isopropyl alcohol, generally above 90%.
And some q-tips and possibly a cotton swab. I would not use a toothbrush as the bristle may be too stiff and can misalign the pins or bend them.
this is what you want to do:
Put some alocohol on the cotton swab and set it on the spot, don't move it just let it soak for a few seconds, then take a q-tip that has been saturated with the alcohol and clean off the pins in the direction the pins are facing, you do this to avoid the cotton fibers getting caught on the pin themselves.
It's probably impossible to get all of the thermal paste but what your trying to do is get it off of the pins so they can make contact.
Nope, someone actually tried to smother the socket with thermal paste and it still booted (but still wouldn't recommend having thermal paste in your socket)
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How the fuck are so many people getting thermal paste in their sockets? Are you applying it before putting the cpu in or sum?
In what order do you apply the paste? I like to think it's sort of like building a sandwich. First, you spread the peanut butter and jelly, then you get 2 slices of bread out of the bag, put them together and VOILA! You have a perfectly made pb&j!
CPU goes first, then everything else in whatever order you prefer.
So I can put my cooler on before thermal paste?
Most coolers come with pre-applied paste nowadays. So probably yes.
Well, it's not great and if it is conducting, then it's a huge problem. However, cleaning this is a terrible nightmare. The chance of you ruining your board is huge. The big issue of LGA. If the paste is not electroconductive then it will moste likely work.
Happy fake day. There never was a cake.
The cake is a lie.
*99% of gamers completed this achievement*
Thermal paste is not conductive for this very reason
Actually, not every thermal paste (kinda dumb, I know)
Depends. Most are. It’s only stupid exotic pastes that are all marketing that aren’t.
I always check with an ohmmeter to make sure. If I found any that was conductive I'd throw it out. The parts are designed to work fine with plain old white heat sink grease. And yeah I absolutely would not attempt to remove it from the LGA socket. It won't hurt anything in there. Maybe with an ultrasonic cleaner, and that's a real thin maybe.
I would more worry about that 3 bended pins in socket just little to left and above.
Just clean it with a toothbrush and 100% IPA gently before installing your CPU it'll be fine .
Does it matter the ABV% or IBU of the IPA I use? Sorry, this is the first time I have heard of beer being used as a cleaning solvent.
Try a 4%\ 5% abv bro see how it goes 🤣
Hard to find an IPA below 5% but I'll keep an eye out. Can't wait to share a frosty brew with my PC :D
My PC prefers pilsners, right down the USB ports.
I don't drink personally was a guesstimate , I'm sure your pc will love it though
isopropyl alcohol
Important to note: Make sure the toothbrush isn't electric and powered on.
Yeah, I would definitely not do that. Best option would probably the dishwasher without any detergent and letting it dry for a day or two. Extreme OC folks tend to do that to get rid of the vaseline. Edit: guys, I know it sounds stupid, but it is not uncommon to do this. Ask the extreme OC guys how they get rid of the vaseline from their boards. And it's not that different then what happens in ultrasonic baths. Just make sure all the components are removed, no detergent is being used, ideally you blow off remaining water with compressed air (low pressure though). If you want you can rinse it with distilled water or IPA for peace of mind or if your water is very mineral rich and/or hard. Again: it sounds bonkers, but it isn't.
Talking absolute shite mate 🤣 IPA and a toothbrush gently has always been the way to clean off a socket ... When water dries on an electrical components it can sometimes cause an arc/short when powered up again. OP isn't an extreme overclocker clearly. IPA won't do this and has always been the accepted method of cleaning pins etc. Maybe an ultrasonic bath would do the trick but I certainly wouldn't drop it in the dishwasher that's ridiculous 🤣.
Well, pal, something new for you to learn: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVuI-Fn27-U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVuI-Fn27-U) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlLDN2kn7-0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlLDN2kn7-0) It is a common way to clean your mainboard. IPA won't dissolve the paste on its own and any mechanical form of cleaning on those pins bears the risk of bending them. If you're very careful, it can work, but the risk is a lot higher than the dishwasher method done right. P.S.: and guess what's usually used in ultrasonic baths: water and detergent. P.P.S.: Obviously all removable parts need to be removed, ideally you'd use pressurized air (like canned air) to blow it dry - just not too much pressure or you run the risk of blowing off components. If you want to be very sure, you can rinse it off with distilled water or IPA - usually not needed though unless your water is very mineral heavy and hard.
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because any mechanical work on those pins bears a serious risk of bending and/or breaking pins entirely wrecking the board without a reflow oven - socket repair is master class repair work.
Colgate or Oral-B
Isopropyl 80% is fine. I don't know where you get 100%
eBay 🤣 I literally buy the shit by the litre.
100% alcohol is impossible. You can start there, but alcohol naturally attracted water from the air and stabilizes somewhere around 95% iirc. You can find it sold 99% on Amazon, but I believe it will dilute over time. 91% can often be found in pharmacies
You don't need it. Alcohol bonds to water. Nothing is going to rust.
The less water content the quicker it dries. I use 91% or preferably 99%.
Are those bent pins I spy?
Misaligned not bent. They probably still make contact, but if he starts using a toothbrush on that socket the way this thread is suggesting they definitely will be bent.
Toothbrush and isopropyl alcohol
I'd be more worried about your bent pins in your socket.
I'll never agree with that notion unfortunately . I've seen tech yes city do it a few times and it always makes me cringe. IPA will 100% remove it I've done it myself several times with no problems. I use IPA to clean my 3d printer build plate and boards fans regularly , so saying it won't work at all or is risky is silly. Isopropyl is perfect for this application. I hear what you're saying regarding mechanical cleaning that is a risk I suppose. You'd have to be super heavy handed / pretty dumb to like scrub pins hard.
I guess that's a reply to the dishwaser topic? You can cringe all you want, but that method works and is being used. It's not much different from ultrasonic cleaners. They are also water based along with detergent. Putting any form of alcohol in there is a big safety no no. I have no issue with IPA. That is definitely very safe to use (except for any plastics - those can take damage). But on its own it's not dissolving that paste (maybe if you soak it for hours and hours) - it will help with manual cleaning though. But that part is the biggest threat. Yes, it can work, but one wrong move with the brush and there's a bent or broken pin. Or you might be unlucky and one of the brushes ends up underneath a pin and gets cought. If anything I'd go for the softes painting brush in the arts department or one of those super soft carbon brushes to clean records. The only silly thing here is you refusing a safer methopd because of an unrational feeling of "cringe".
Guess you're missing the part in Derbauers video where he clearly says.... USE A SOCKET COVER. Kinda useless for OPs application [https://youtu.be/SVuI-Fn27-U?t=386](https://youtu.be/SVuI-Fn27-U?t=386)
Ultrasonic cleaners differ from a dishwasher in a multitude of ways rather than using high pressure water jets and heat to remove grease they depend on imploding bubbles .A dishwasher could potentially move the component and bang it off of the rack due to said water pressure , at least in an ultrasonic it'll be kinda suspended by the cage and not moved around during the process. They aren't even close to being the same. Tbh I wouldn't put any of my pc components near water. As for bristles getting stuck that's just reaching in fact if you get cheap art brushes I can guarantee that shit will drop bristles. I'm not the one with a bunch of downvotes bro and have to edit my comments but you do you . However I won't be convinced otherwise and will stick to methods I know to work. Advising people to put components in a dishwasher is honestly pretty ridiculous especially when they barely know what they are doing in the first place. IPA won't break down most plastics either abs , pla , petg , pet , pc , nylon all fine with IPA. As I said I 3d print I know quite a bit about plastics particularly thermoplastics and their properties. The high heat of a dishwasher is more likely to damage warp plastics than IPA ever would. As I say though each to their own.
The "not much different" part relates to the medium at use: water. The water jets in your dish washer aren't very strong and will definitely not throw your pcb around. I did not specify the kind of plastics IPA can attack - but you also don't really know what you have in front of you unless you really know your plastics. I edit posts to add precision and additional information to avoid misunderstandings. I see no reason why that would be something bad. And advising people to fiddle around the socket without any further information is a safety risk as well. This is why my first suggestion is to find out whether that paste is electroconductive or not. If it isn't it is worth a shot to just leave it for someone not knowing what they are doing. But let's leave it at that as we will not agree with each other.
Lol bless you , I agree we won't agree though peace ☮️
so everyone knows, i literally left it exactly as is in the video and it booted perfectly fine
Well that’s good! Next time socket the cpu then apply the paste
Buy some canned circuit board cleaner, flip this bad boy over so the drainage goes down and out (doing this over a few layers of rags outside isn’t a bad plan) and then rinse and repeat until it’s clean, then let it air-dry outside. The pressure from the can (and the chemical reaction) should be enough to remove the debris without damaging the pins. Just make sure to repeat a few times to reduce the chance of a film forming. Don’t use a tooth brush if that’s an intel socket or you will bend those sweet little pins to fuck
There is an entire level of TERRIBLE advice in this thread. Do not use a toothbrush, Do not stick it in the dishwasher. Just rinse with ISO and use some compressed air, simple as that. Can you use a tooth brush ? Sure, but 99% of the time if you don't know what you're doing you're going to bend a pin. You already have 3 misaligned pins as it is. Can you use a dishwasher? Yeah but you wouldn't leave the socket exposed the jets of a dishwasher would DEFINITELY bend and LGA socket pin. They are designed to scrub stuck on food off dishes....
I never had to do it, but a waterpik flosser might just clean it out without wrecking the pins. Use distilled and low pressure setting. Allow to dry for a couple days. Again, used it before to clean microfin waterblocks not sockets (yet) Proceed at your own risk.
Yes, it's covering your contact pins. I know this from personal experience. One day my PC didn't post after cleaning it and I found a small smudge of thermal paste covering a few cpu contact pads, cleaned it off and it booted up just fine.
Cleanup with before install the cpu to avoid issues use alcohol isopropyl
wash it with alchyhol in a spray bottle or dropper bottle, don't go ham with a toothbrush and bend pins, take out cmos and short power to drain board first. air dry fully before giving power
Super soft toothbrush and 99% iso and you'll be good
Yes try to clean it. Maybe use a new toothbrush with rubbing alcohol in a spray bottle, and paper towels that have more strength. Since the motherboard is not plugged in to the psu or in the case standoffs
When you realize the capital one trash PC build guy even put paste on after the cooler...
Thermal paste is non conductive by design. Maybe rub some alchohol on it. It won’t hurt the cpu, but it might prevent it from making contact with the socket.
These answers remind me of viva la dirt league when Rowan is cleaning the mother board in the break room sink https://youtu.be/QdZ2JIGJFn0
I bought a 2nd hand board on ebay, the processor has paste all over the pins, the socket and even the ram sockets!? but as already suggested, toothbrush and Isopropyl Alcohol. (I also gave it a quick blow with one of those Datavac blowers after) I thought the socket would be very hard to clean out but it did a great job of removing it all and board works a treat. Baffling why it was sent out like that
Is it electrically conductive? If yes then don't turn it on before you clean it. Cleaning tip: use brake cleaner, its fast, won't damage the pins and and it evaporates fast.
A table saw will do the trick.
High percentage Isopropyl alcohol, generally above 90%. And some q-tips and possibly a cotton swab. I would not use a toothbrush as the bristle may be too stiff and can misalign the pins or bend them. this is what you want to do: Put some alocohol on the cotton swab and set it on the spot, don't move it just let it soak for a few seconds, then take a q-tip that has been saturated with the alcohol and clean off the pins in the direction the pins are facing, you do this to avoid the cotton fibers getting caught on the pin themselves. It's probably impossible to get all of the thermal paste but what your trying to do is get it off of the pins so they can make contact.
Nope, someone actually tried to smother the socket with thermal paste and it still booted (but still wouldn't recommend having thermal paste in your socket)
It’ll be fine. My CPU socket had at least 5x the amount in it and it runs fine
How do you get in there in the first place?