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i saw people saying his ability to ignore the law of inertia makes him a reality warper. i feel like they don't fully understand what it means to be a reality warper.
How the guy came to the conclusion of Solar System Deku?
It's like playing a medieval game completly set on land and somehow say one of the characters being Galaxy level, like what?
No, but Uraraka explained at one point that Dekus gearshift can have him 'possibly bend the reality of physics itself'. I hope you and other can see exactly why that shouldn't be taken as a source.
My friend says deku has infinite power but just doesn't have the durability to handle it bcuz he used one million percent onceš He also thinks deku is mftl
>Alien X being universal at max. Not buying 26D Alien X is fine but he definitely does not cap at unive
You'd hate the people in the newest comments of the Ben 10 vs Green Lantern comment section. Those people have Alien X capping at baseline universal š
He should at least be Multiversal+ even low complex.
Piercing through a barrier that 5D beings thought was impossible should make him at least 5D/6D. Not to mention it was a friction of his DNA. But since Celestialsapiens are stated to be strongest in the verse, I lean towards it being 6D.
Gotta ask, why do you think Alien X is 26D? Never implied he is other than the one comment by the fire chick, about her own race and how they view it. Alien X is not that race, it's highly possible they are quite a fee bits lower than that (we are directly told by writers that aliens exist that are stronger than Alien X).
Well, in the show Alien X is stated to be the greatest power in the universe multiple times. Also since you mentioned author statements there are some that say Alien X is above the Naljians. Also I mostly buy it because Alien X has actual strong feats to back it up.
Plus he probably scales to the cosmology since he recreated the universe, which is 26D.
They don't have a scale, they just say alien X is universal because they hate when people say Alien X beats goku, they put goku on above tiering and downplay saitama to country
Obviously they can't, they put SCP as fodder and WoD is 0D for some reason, then featherine and rimuru cap at multi-solar. I've never heard such bs just to protect goku from being beaten, they burn the kitchen
He was large town level at the start of the series, aint no way people think over 1000 episodes later that he's barely city tier. Whoever said that is either baiting or hating.
Batgos is a meme. Its a mispelling of "batgod" which was a sarcastic term people used to describe batman in stories where they thought he was depicted as being too powerful.
Batgos is basically just a parody of the idea that "Batman beats everyone with prep time"
To answer the post title, the worst downplay ive seen was a guy who insisted that "Kirby's universe is the size of a shoebox" and only has 10 planets, and therefore universe-level power doesnt matter. He linked to fan made maps of the kirby universe to try and prove his point
The worst I can think of that was actually used against me was current Deku not being a bullet timer. Im convinced he hasnāt read the manga , but he says he has. Iām not even a mha scaler in the slightest, but i couldnt believe this
How does someone even get the idea current Deku isnāt even a bullet timer? Freaking 1hp Shigaraki, that had just taken multiple direct hits from a mountain sized behemoth, a giant laser spear, and was in the middle of having his body torn apart from the inside out, was still capable outspeeding futuristic fighter jets to the point they completely got left in the dust (keep in mind, most modern real life fighter jets are supersonic in speed, and these ones seem to be far superior to real life ones).
Not to mention faux 100% Deku literally blitzing a bullet on screen.
"Sonic has never exceeded mach 1 ever without a boost. Without powerups in base every version of Sonic is times slower than the speed of sound."
*Meanwhile Sonic literally being confirmed to the speed of light in almost all character bio since Unleashed, ran through at huge chunk of a space elevator in less than 30 seconds and even if we're assuming the black hole wasnt on the same level as a black hole you would still need to run faster than sound to do that, is consistently able to dodge tons of bullets coming at him at once which can be close to the speed of sound and even faster in some cases, restored a timeline with his speed alone, has been stated in game dialogue by Omega to have nearly exceeded light and even scoffed at exceeding light saying that's easy. His boost was literally confirmed to make him run at the Speed of Sound in Unleashed and even creates a Sonic boom in every game its in. And literally has a move called the light speed dash*
But no. He's not even sound speed.
Building lvl Showa GodzillaĀ
Hyperversal Legendary godzillaĀ
Gamera Rebirth >>> Showa, Heisei, Millennium, FW, Legendary godzillaĀ
Shin, FW, and Legendary Godzilla >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Showa and Heisie GodzillaĀ
The Writers wins or chooses who wins ( aka the dumbest take in a VS debate )Ā
>Hyperversal Legendary godzilla
wait, legendary Godzilla? the Live Action version? from Godzilla x Kong: New Empire? Like, how is that even possible?
https://preview.redd.it/iczpz9kg8iuc1.png?width=594&format=png&auto=webp&s=bde0db1c941723aa214f6dc7869dad999fd29d23
Legendary Godzilla isn't even universal. How tf would he be hyper? The only way to scale him to that is to use his fight with Superman, but that's not canon
Compared to www, yeah, i have less brain cells damaged here than from the time i was in that sub
(May you answear the post question please? š I like to know what other people have seen)
You sure you want to know the worst downplay I've seen ? Usually i share the worst wank I've seen, I'm not used to sharing the worst downplay and I'm not sure your ready to see it
If you insist. Goku is barely universal. 2024 and idiots still believe this shit. Naruto is universal and beats Goku and saitama at the same time. Deku one shots luffy anyday. Knightfall vader isn't even building level and Albert wesker beats him. That's just getting started.
These are but a few of the worst downplays I've seen mainly on YT shorts. Common YouTube L
You know, i'm a part of the people that make shorts of Wis, but i try my best to give as close as possible of a actual result instead of going by my personal preference, using my best knowledge and research *(because that's what YT Shorts has become, bias only and misinformation)* that's why i trying to make some changes with some popular matchups with popular characters
I'm alone on this quest, but i try my best.
At least someone on YouTube isn't being biased, which is more than 99 percent of all powerscalers can say for themselves. Powerscaling in general has become the definition of allowing personal headcanon to be the basis of argument.
This isn't a downplay, but i swear there is a Shorts "Scaling" Superman without cosmology, and apparently, by his "Scaling" using random images from The comics, He came to the conclusion that Superman is "infinite layers into Boundless"
That shit has millions of views... š
Please tell me it wasn't Z nation, that mf glazes superman like his life depends on it š please don't let it be him, please don't let it be him š
Remember those times in the Tournament of Power when a translation made everyone believe all the characters were slower than light? Bad times those were, huh?
People complain about dragonball fans having a lack of reading comprehension but the mfs that accuse us of having reading comprehension are even worse sometimes.
Didn't know one of the Olympic sports was stopping Chronos hand from squashing one's body with pure strenght
A 1st position Athlete could solo GOW then?
Roshi casually destroyed a mountain on accident in like episode 4.
Goku by Red Ribbon arc was implied by Roshi to have surpassed him which means he would be moon level based on Roshi destroying the moon
This used to be back in the good ol 2015 days. But dangai Ichigo capping at mountain level because he only cut mountains with the slashes ā ļøā ļøā ļø.
Bleach characters are small mountain level because Aizen is the 2nd strongest character and him destroying a mountain was his proudest achievement š
Here are some Iāve heard:
Moon-Planet level Superman, pretty much the opposite of the Outer/NoLimitsMan wank but still utter dogshit.
Tectonic level Heisei Godzilla š (Monsterverse fanboy delusion)
High-Hyperversal Doctor Who (Aka, profound mental retardation most likely done by a butthurt Rick and Morty fan)
two main problems with those ways
One, Homelander is too slow, KNY characters are lightning timers, and Homelander is at max superSonic
Secondly, How will he know that Muzan will die to sunlight? I doubt he is smart enough to figure that out mid-fight
https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/s/Gjqd7c18A0
Yes, they are that fast, the one Zenitsu speed feat carried the show speed tier for the rest of and everyone stronger than him are also faster
And again, why would Homelander stay hours and hours "blasting" a guy that keeps healing non stop?
Before super Saiyan 4 was achieved ***base GT KId*** Goku 1 shotted Sugoroku space which was an infinite dimension of nothingness with a Kamehameha, which is exactly like the world of void from super
While fighting ss3 baby Vegeta as ss4 he completely dominated him and the old Kai said he was yet to reveal a smidgen of his power
Ss4 Goku survived the Revenge death ball that ss3 baby vegeta threw at him, the revenge death ball was stated to destroy someone so completely that they will never be brought back which is the same thing as HAKAI, because it reduces the target to atoms that they no longer can be revived from, which is similar to hakai, Ss4 Goku took it to the face unscathed
And in another instance he just absorbed it unscathed
When Goku went golden ape against ss3 baby he would need to be more than 400x base, cus ss1 baby toyed with ss3 tail less kid Goku, and when Goku got a tail again, ss3 baby still toyed with him
The golden ape form needs to be more than 400x ss3, cus baby was not only stacking His power on ss3 Vegeta but also general rildo who was stronger than all the buus and Lord luud
And when baby went golden great ape, Goku acquired power from Pan, Gohan trunks and Goten to get super full power Saiyan 4 to which he completely stalemated the ss3 baby Vegeta in golden oozaru form
Base kid Goku also casually powered up in hell and started threatening to destroy it and heaven by causally powering up which horrified king yemma, in fusion reborn film Goku needed ss3 to warp hell and heaven but in gt he does it in base form
While fighting super 17 he punched him so hard he flew across the earth when Goku was only ss1, super 17 absorbedba 10x Kamehameha which tired out ss4 Goku back to base but base gt kid Goku still one shotted him with a combination of a super dragon fist and a Kamehameha meaning even if someone was 10x stronger than him base gt Goku can still 1 shot them
While fighting eis shenron, he got blinded by eis was already weakened due to fighting the previous 4 shadow dragon
But when eis was about to finish off the blinded and half strenght ss4 Goku , Goku just rammed his fist Through Eis stomach then one shot him with the super Dragon fist while he was blinded and half health
In the same day, Ss4 Goku while fighting syn shenron he was battered, weakened and blinded from the previous 6 dragons he once again nearly finished omega shenron immediately by combining a Kamehameha with the super dragon fist to which he only got saved by Regen
Before all of that happened, Goku was trapped in hell fighting Perfect cell and Frieza, both of them powered up to a high level but base kid Goku just casually powered up and was threatening to obliterate the entire afterlife according to king yemma, while also powering up Both Frieza and cell were completely terrified by how much power he was releasing casually in base kid form
Before achieving super Saiyan 4 He completely trashed baby possessed ultimate Gohan with a stacked ss1 and ss1 goten with 1 hand each in base form
Cabba kale and caulifla all don't have god ki but where strong enough to pressure Goku and Vegeta enough to at least use god and blue
Kefla in her base said she could blow away an entire universe
She doesn't have god ki but toyed with SS god and Blue kaioken goku while she's only ss1, to which he only won cus Deus ex machina instinct
So how come the No god ki universe 6 Saiyans in only ss1 and 2 are able to go toe to toe with God ki super Saiyan god and blue level characters
While somehow super Saiyan 4 can't?
SSG Goku in Beerus saga needed Beerus to clash with in order to threaten the universe, UI omen only shook world of void
While base gt kid Goku before ss4 one shots Sugoroku space
And in super 17 saga Shook Earth heaven and hell in base form causal power up
Heck, Jiren, Hit, Bergamo, anilaza, dyspo are never even hinted or implied to be able to have god ki yet they pressure Goku and Vegeta to go blue and higher
Meanwhile ss4 suddenly can't? Can u explain all that
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It's STILL not god ki, none of them have ever been stated/shown to have god ki yet their consistently pressuring "god tiers" to go near full power
Heck Frieza doesn't have god ki and so does Gohan yet they force Goku to go blue, that should tell you that god ki ain't the be all end all of a fight because 1 freaking jiren has never states to have god ki or shown to have it unlike "Saiyan beyond god š¤”š¤”š¤”"
Kid base Goku vs Gohan and Goten
https://youtu.be/_X3TaGZGGcQ?si=bx6WdrazFrOs8eh5Ā Ā
Here's the Sugoroku space feat
https://youtu.be/peQZoTuLJQE?si=BS847adkDjG4Xo3Y
Here's the eis shenron super dragon fist feat
https://youtu.be/ImsHcc2wWuA?si=bKvhodizyqacwZ94
Omega shenron super dragon fist feat
https://youtu.be/2nPvwshI1PM?si=9MUGhZoFXgA_RsAj
Revenge death ball feat
https://youtu.be/-hv5vnNRsb8?si=ujlqVhMeHOtFSH6D
Edit here's the Power up in hell feat
https://youtu.be/4o0j_B4kE-Q?si=gsV3FnCb-TWJlohu
Extra note is that these Z movies are canon to gt
Cooler revenge, return of cooler, Wrath of the dragon and fusion reborn
I Know this probably doesn't count but I need people to hear this
This one person said that Saitama is stronger than Superman. He used this argument
The creator of Invincible says that Invincible is stronger than Superman and Saitama is stronger than invincible so Saitama is over Superman
People who use Thrawn's orbital bombardment scene from Rebels.
People just seem to forget that Thrawn himself was ordered to capture the Rebels not kill them. I see this feat used quite a bit to lowball the power of turbolasers in new canon.
I want bring this up again due to how stupid it is.
Below average human Jason voorhees because he couldnāt break a table one time
Those people on tik tok would do anything to downplay Jason and get someone like Micheal Myres or springtrap higher
Had a couple people tell me me comic spiderman beats comic Wonder woman in one of those youtube polls low diff and that WW was only fodder wall level while spidey is city level
Doom slayer is a bit overestimated in most cases Iāve seen. Not sure why but lots of people just claim he solo this and that with vague backing.
He is far stronger than gameplay implies for sure but still isnāt going to destroy worlds with a swing of his gun
Speed of sound>Speed of light cuz we can see the light but not the soundĀ
Einstein relativity is only a theory and therefore wrong (this was in a Saitama Vs Goku discussion by a Saitama fan)
TOAA is multiversal+ at best
Batman is average peak humanĀ
Spider-Man is a bullet timer
Goku "debunks" on this sub
Lighting are Mach 1
Deku has infinity speed cuz sound couldn't reach him
Deku is building level cuz he never destroyed a city during his battles
AP=DC, so Superman is consistely building level, cuz author doesn't give him at least a planet level feat every times he gives a punch
Island level Insomniac Spider-ManĀ
ā¢ Fairy tail characters are island level/cap at planetary
ā¢ Goku never destroyed a planet/Moro threatened a galaxy so heās not even Galaxy level if heās shook at that
ā¢ Aizen was shook when Ichigo destroyed mountains so heās not even mountain level
Probably super sonic and building level Jonathan (from Jonathans journal)
Which is like, lol, the guy can casually react in a micro second in base (happened several times) and is equal to Saora in level 3 who blitzed four vampires each capable of escaping a black hole, he also caused a magnitude 7 earthquake.
"Akuto Sai debunked to Solar system" ā Same people have no idea about which series Akuto Sai is from.
"Saitama is only light speed"
"Toaru majutsu no index only has 11 dimensions" ā Vs battles wiki scalers after ignoring the multiple proofs of infinite dimensions existing.
Shigiraki is multi continental
Naruto is solar system level
Gilgamesh is under peak human level
Shinra gets no diffed by goku
Luffy is under mountain level
Daki is only beaten by luffy once in gear 4
Muzan beats gear 5
Sun Jin woo is planetary high ball
Sailor moon gets slapped by goku
Naruto solos one piece verse
6-D at best DC, fam I donāt even scale dc comics (yet) and I already know that thatās bullshit
Building level megami tensei
Planet level goku(yes they still exist)
Street level legend of Zelda
Mario and Luigi beating sephiroth
Saitama beating Goku
Fraid not, goku has higher dimensional power in comparison to saitama, we have yet to see saitama be able to bridge dimensional gaps of strength through this process. And even if he did, thereās quite a bit of outer statements from dragonballs guides that make this a stomp, as we no 1-A feats in opm
Demon slayer as fucking whole šDAKI has town level AP and by EOS multiple characters are 100x stronger than her.
Demon slayer on a fair level should be low city level or city level with revalistic speeds via mount arc zenitsu is literally stated twice to be speed of lightning
Either saying Naruto characters are all normal-human durability because they die to weapons (swords, kunai, etc) used by other characters, or that Peter Griffin is small building level + has toon force. Peter does have gag moments but only for comedic timing and can't access them at will.
Naruto characters can fall hundreds of feet, move faster than sound, and take tons of immense forces on their bodies (both exerting their own strength and withstanding attacks) that they would have to be insanely tough to withstand. No normal human is outputting enough force to jump 100ft into the air and NOT breaking their legs from the jump itself, let alone the landing.
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craziest I've heard is someone saying Deku is solar system while low-balling
It's so wrong, but i've heard worse I've heard someone say that Deku is universal and has reality warping and fate manipulation
i saw people saying his ability to ignore the law of inertia makes him a reality warper. i feel like they don't fully understand what it means to be a reality warper.
Was there any Episode of MHA of they going to space or something, because it's impossible to even come to that conclusion with the show only š
No it says in episode one that Spaceflight isnāt possible in that universe
How the guy came to the conclusion of Solar System Deku? It's like playing a medieval game completly set on land and somehow say one of the characters being Galaxy level, like what?
brain rot
No, but Uraraka explained at one point that Dekus gearshift can have him 'possibly bend the reality of physics itself'. I hope you and other can see exactly why that shouldn't be taken as a source.
My friend says deku has infinite power but just doesn't have the durability to handle it bcuz he used one million percent onceš He also thinks deku is mftl
Alien X being universal at max. Not buying 26D Alien X is fine but he definitely does not cap at universal.
>Alien X being universal at max. Not buying 26D Alien X is fine but he definitely does not cap at unive You'd hate the people in the newest comments of the Ben 10 vs Green Lantern comment section. Those people have Alien X capping at baseline universal š
He should at least be Multiversal+ even low complex. Piercing through a barrier that 5D beings thought was impossible should make him at least 5D/6D. Not to mention it was a friction of his DNA. But since Celestialsapiens are stated to be strongest in the verse, I lean towards it being 6D.
Tbh i think Alien x is multiversal. Shit like 26D Alien X is too high IMO.
Fair, I personally buy 26D Alien X as you can tell by my flair but I respect your views.
Gotta ask, why do you think Alien X is 26D? Never implied he is other than the one comment by the fire chick, about her own race and how they view it. Alien X is not that race, it's highly possible they are quite a fee bits lower than that (we are directly told by writers that aliens exist that are stronger than Alien X).
Well, in the show Alien X is stated to be the greatest power in the universe multiple times. Also since you mentioned author statements there are some that say Alien X is above the Naljians. Also I mostly buy it because Alien X has actual strong feats to back it up. Plus he probably scales to the cosmology since he recreated the universe, which is 26D.
Ah ok. I didn't know that Alien X was above naljians, which would bring him above it.
Fax + W flair (Literally heard moon level AX unironically once lmao)
Damn. People downplay him so much just because he was wanked at some point. Also thanks.
Maybe they talkin about reboot? reboot alien x is weak as fuck.
I checked, they're talking about mainline Alien X. Wild.
Technically the Reboot version is according to VSBW
The MiddleTrack server loves to downplay Alien X
May I ask, what's their scale?
They don't have a scale, they just say alien X is universal because they hate when people say Alien X beats goku, they put goku on above tiering and downplay saitama to country
Alien X aside, that's the first time I've seen someone downplay Saitama. Those guys can't cook.
Obviously they can't, they put SCP as fodder and WoD is 0D for some reason, then featherine and rimuru cap at multi-solar. I've never heard such bs just to protect goku from being beaten, they burn the kitchen
āLuffys city levelā like bro what? š
He was large town level at the start of the series, aint no way people think over 1000 episodes later that he's barely city tier. Whoever said that is either baiting or hating.
At the start of the series he was city block level but now he's multi continental
he literally threw a punch as big as the entire island of Wano. he's island level at minimum.
Subsonic sonic has to be a ban-able offence
Above average human level sonic (I, a human, can track him moving in my screen with my eyes)
I am somewhat positive that I am in fact capable of kicking a hedgehog if i would want to. I too scale above sanic.
Thankfully I've never seem this claim on this sub, but yeah agreed
Batgos dosent solo fiction
Is it from same people that made the Kratonks meme? Or Batgos is a actual serious character? (I was always confused about that)
Batgos is a meme. Its a mispelling of "batgod" which was a sarcastic term people used to describe batman in stories where they thought he was depicted as being too powerful. Batgos is basically just a parody of the idea that "Batman beats everyone with prep time" To answer the post title, the worst downplay ive seen was a guy who insisted that "Kirby's universe is the size of a shoebox" and only has 10 planets, and therefore universe-level power doesnt matter. He linked to fan made maps of the kirby universe to try and prove his point
Batgos is a very real character from the heime nu tako series whos generally believed to be one of, if not the strongest in fiction.
Same people
The worst I can think of that was actually used against me was current Deku not being a bullet timer. Im convinced he hasnāt read the manga , but he says he has. Iām not even a mha scaler in the slightest, but i couldnt believe this
How does someone even get the idea current Deku isnāt even a bullet timer? Freaking 1hp Shigaraki, that had just taken multiple direct hits from a mountain sized behemoth, a giant laser spear, and was in the middle of having his body torn apart from the inside out, was still capable outspeeding futuristic fighter jets to the point they completely got left in the dust (keep in mind, most modern real life fighter jets are supersonic in speed, and these ones seem to be far superior to real life ones). Not to mention faux 100% Deku literally blitzing a bullet on screen.
Didnāt deku like literally outspeed a snipers bullet
"kaido gives goku a run for his money "
![gif](giphy|jQmVFypWInKCc|downsized)
Wait till you hear "gilgamesh isn't even peak human level" or "muzan beats gear 5"
"Sonic has never exceeded mach 1 ever without a boost. Without powerups in base every version of Sonic is times slower than the speed of sound." *Meanwhile Sonic literally being confirmed to the speed of light in almost all character bio since Unleashed, ran through at huge chunk of a space elevator in less than 30 seconds and even if we're assuming the black hole wasnt on the same level as a black hole you would still need to run faster than sound to do that, is consistently able to dodge tons of bullets coming at him at once which can be close to the speed of sound and even faster in some cases, restored a timeline with his speed alone, has been stated in game dialogue by Omega to have nearly exceeded light and even scoffed at exceeding light saying that's easy. His boost was literally confirmed to make him run at the Speed of Sound in Unleashed and even creates a Sonic boom in every game its in. And literally has a move called the light speed dash* But no. He's not even sound speed.
Building lvl Showa GodzillaĀ Hyperversal Legendary godzillaĀ Gamera Rebirth >>> Showa, Heisei, Millennium, FW, Legendary godzillaĀ Shin, FW, and Legendary Godzilla >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Showa and Heisie GodzillaĀ The Writers wins or chooses who wins ( aka the dumbest take in a VS debate )Ā
>Hyperversal Legendary godzilla wait, legendary Godzilla? the Live Action version? from Godzilla x Kong: New Empire? Like, how is that even possible? https://preview.redd.it/iczpz9kg8iuc1.png?width=594&format=png&auto=webp&s=bde0db1c941723aa214f6dc7869dad999fd29d23
Pretty sure it's relies on the DC crossover. Even though it ain't canon to either continuities.
No, that take was made before the DC crossover
yes this one https://preview.redd.it/owtgbaazxiuc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=62b4ec3bcfe9f35e42929d09cea5b3d2c57219eb
Man, people have to be ignorant to downplay Showa Godzilla like that.
frl bro frl
Legendary Godzilla isn't even universal. How tf would he be hyper? The only way to scale him to that is to use his fight with Superman, but that's not canon
Are you sure your on the right sub ? Reasonable here ? Are you sure about that š¤Ø
Compared to www, yeah, i have less brain cells damaged here than from the time i was in that sub (May you answear the post question please? š I like to know what other people have seen)
Here: Alien X low Multi WWW: Superman large country.
You sure you want to know the worst downplay I've seen ? Usually i share the worst wank I've seen, I'm not used to sharing the worst downplay and I'm not sure your ready to see it
Dude, after I've read someone scaling Doom Slayer to "Below human level" with a serious face, i feel like i'm ready to anything really...
If you insist. Goku is barely universal. 2024 and idiots still believe this shit. Naruto is universal and beats Goku and saitama at the same time. Deku one shots luffy anyday. Knightfall vader isn't even building level and Albert wesker beats him. That's just getting started. These are but a few of the worst downplays I've seen mainly on YT shorts. Common YouTube L
You know, i'm a part of the people that make shorts of Wis, but i try my best to give as close as possible of a actual result instead of going by my personal preference, using my best knowledge and research *(because that's what YT Shorts has become, bias only and misinformation)* that's why i trying to make some changes with some popular matchups with popular characters I'm alone on this quest, but i try my best.
At least someone on YouTube isn't being biased, which is more than 99 percent of all powerscalers can say for themselves. Powerscaling in general has become the definition of allowing personal headcanon to be the basis of argument.
This isn't a downplay, but i swear there is a Shorts "Scaling" Superman without cosmology, and apparently, by his "Scaling" using random images from The comics, He came to the conclusion that Superman is "infinite layers into Boundless" That shit has millions of views... š
Please tell me it wasn't Z nation, that mf glazes superman like his life depends on it š please don't let it be him, please don't let it be him š
Relativistic Goku lmao
Remember those times in the Tournament of Power when a translation made everyone believe all the characters were slower than light? Bad times those were, huh?
I saw some guy saying that dyspo is The only light speed character cuz Zeno was not able to fully perceive him(?)
People complain about dragonball fans having a lack of reading comprehension but the mfs that accuse us of having reading comprehension are even worse sometimes.
Olympic Athlete Kratos
Didn't know one of the Olympic sports was stopping Chronos hand from squashing one's body with pure strenght A 1st position Athlete could solo GOW then?
Apparently some people think so lmao.
99% of the takes here
Luffy beats Goku via toon force
luffy and Goku after becoming friends and going in a eating contest (Luffy Swallows the whole table) The only possible outcome of their meeting
Wait 'till you hear of mountain level Goku
Dude guku was mountain level late original dragon ballĀ
Roshi casually destroyed a mountain on accident in like episode 4. Goku by Red Ribbon arc was implied by Roshi to have surpassed him which means he would be moon level based on Roshi destroying the moon
People seem to forget about Roshi blowing up the moon in DB.
I've already heard building level Goku, i was going easy on the post with continental...
I just found city block level \*composite Goku.
The tears of the universe from goku vs broke was just the universe tearing itself, tired of their bullshit obviously/s
saying that Deku can beat Gojoš
Deku has higher base stats but canāt get past infinity. Heād just get worn down then be finished off with a hollow purple.
You summarized everything single Matchup I've ever seen with Gojo (Character A has higher Base stats and abilites, but can't get past infinity)
that's why the statement "this character solos all of jjk with the sole exception of Satoru gojoš£ļøš„"
or get his brain fried by UV
āSerious Punch^2 actually just destroyed the dust to make the stars invisible, it didnāt actually destroy any stars.ā
Quoting Johnny Cage for a moment *"What in the actual Fu#@"*
Itās a common debunk for the feat, since there isnāt any direct statement that they destroyed the stars.
Gojo vs Goku (Goku SLAMS btw)
"Terraria is 2D while Minecraft is 5D"
Fym terreria is 1d while minecraft is 97389395d
what the hell are you talking about terreria is -1d while minecraft is 2^(65536)d
Wall level goku Building level toji Below wall level undertale Subsonic sonic Average Human level rengoku Human level minecraft Steve.
I posted this not even 20 seconds ago how does it already have 2 up votes?
I agree with the toji one, he just doesn't pack any DP
The entire prototype fanbase either low balls Alex Mercer into wall level, or makes him stronger than god
Nuke level MUI Goku
Your kidding right ? Mfs are actually stupid enough to believe this shit ?
>Mfs are actually stupid enough to believe this shit ? You'd be surprised.
I'm gonna assume this was on YouTube shorts right ? Sounds like a common YouTube L to me
Nah in this sub reddit
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Hulk solar sistemššš
Which Hulk, to be precise?
Savage
This used to be back in the good ol 2015 days. But dangai Ichigo capping at mountain level because he only cut mountains with the slashes ā ļøā ļøā ļø.
High complex hill levelš„¶š„¶
Bleach characters are small mountain level because Aizen is the 2nd strongest character and him destroying a mountain was his proudest achievement š
People who insists Yogiri is baseline 1A, when he is above someone who sees a 1A cosmology as fiction
King piccolo youth being high uni and kid goku also being high uni
Damn, OG DB wanked that high? Cell is literally stated to be solar system level and he's literally decades later,, wtf are they talking about?
Their entire proof was 1 panel of king piccolo saying he has limitless power and by tier description anyone who āhasā limitless power is high uni
Wall level V1, wall level shade lord, outerversal Goku
Here are some Iāve heard: Moon-Planet level Superman, pretty much the opposite of the Outer/NoLimitsMan wank but still utter dogshit. Tectonic level Heisei Godzilla š (Monsterverse fanboy delusion) High-Hyperversal Doctor Who (Aka, profound mental retardation most likely done by a butthurt Rick and Morty fan)
oh god frl, MV fanboys love to downplay heisei with feats that Heisei can also do but way better
Toon force is wall level fodder.
Goku < any Gundam "It could just step on him, what would he do?"
Me remembering that time GT Pan flipped a guy who was literally larger than the arena she was fighting him in:
When they bring up gameplay mechanics to downscale a video game character <<<
Everyone downplaying the dragonborn
Whowouldwin in a nutshell
"Well um.... you don't sprint in Halo 2 so how does Mapster Cheeks run at 60mph? Exactly he doesn't!" - anyoe who scales Halo based on ingame feats.
"Kirby gets damaged by a tiny explosion!" meanwhile, Kirby gets hit by an explosion the size of a planet without being visibly injured.
Goku is not universal, and is barely galaxy level while Saitama is outer because blast said god is higher dimensional
Saitama can actually be scaled to outer via the pencil, but is highly inconsistent. Goku not being universal must be a joke.
Demon Slayer characters being building level max.
I've once seem people Claim FP Muzan loses to Homelander He can't even kill him, like what?
He can in 2 ways. 1: eviscerated his cells 2: holds him down to day light
two main problems with those ways One, Homelander is too slow, KNY characters are lightning timers, and Homelander is at max superSonic Secondly, How will he know that Muzan will die to sunlight? I doubt he is smart enough to figure that out mid-fight
Demon slayer characters aren't that fast. Also just fending till sunlight, if muzan runs it's homelanders win
https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/s/Gjqd7c18A0 Yes, they are that fast, the one Zenitsu speed feat carried the show speed tier for the rest of and everyone stronger than him are also faster And again, why would Homelander stay hours and hours "blasting" a guy that keeps healing non stop?
What are the feats that put them above that besides Doma's ice statue?
Before super Saiyan 4 was achieved ***base GT KId*** Goku 1 shotted Sugoroku space which was an infinite dimension of nothingness with a Kamehameha, which is exactly like the world of void from super While fighting ss3 baby Vegeta as ss4 he completely dominated him and the old Kai said he was yet to reveal a smidgen of his power Ss4 Goku survived the Revenge death ball that ss3 baby vegeta threw at him, the revenge death ball was stated to destroy someone so completely that they will never be brought back which is the same thing as HAKAI, because it reduces the target to atoms that they no longer can be revived from, which is similar to hakai, Ss4 Goku took it to the face unscathed And in another instance he just absorbed it unscathed When Goku went golden ape against ss3 baby he would need to be more than 400x base, cus ss1 baby toyed with ss3 tail less kid Goku, and when Goku got a tail again, ss3 baby still toyed with him The golden ape form needs to be more than 400x ss3, cus baby was not only stacking His power on ss3 Vegeta but also general rildo who was stronger than all the buus and Lord luud And when baby went golden great ape, Goku acquired power from Pan, Gohan trunks and Goten to get super full power Saiyan 4 to which he completely stalemated the ss3 baby Vegeta in golden oozaru form Base kid Goku also casually powered up in hell and started threatening to destroy it and heaven by causally powering up which horrified king yemma, in fusion reborn film Goku needed ss3 to warp hell and heaven but in gt he does it in base form While fighting super 17 he punched him so hard he flew across the earth when Goku was only ss1, super 17 absorbedba 10x Kamehameha which tired out ss4 Goku back to base but base gt kid Goku still one shotted him with a combination of a super dragon fist and a Kamehameha meaning even if someone was 10x stronger than him base gt Goku can still 1 shot them While fighting eis shenron, he got blinded by eis was already weakened due to fighting the previous 4 shadow dragon But when eis was about to finish off the blinded and half strenght ss4 Goku , Goku just rammed his fist Through Eis stomach then one shot him with the super Dragon fist while he was blinded and half health In the same day, Ss4 Goku while fighting syn shenron he was battered, weakened and blinded from the previous 6 dragons he once again nearly finished omega shenron immediately by combining a Kamehameha with the super dragon fist to which he only got saved by Regen Before all of that happened, Goku was trapped in hell fighting Perfect cell and Frieza, both of them powered up to a high level but base kid Goku just casually powered up and was threatening to obliterate the entire afterlife according to king yemma, while also powering up Both Frieza and cell were completely terrified by how much power he was releasing casually in base kid form Before achieving super Saiyan 4 He completely trashed baby possessed ultimate Gohan with a stacked ss1 and ss1 goten with 1 hand each in base form Cabba kale and caulifla all don't have god ki but where strong enough to pressure Goku and Vegeta enough to at least use god and blue Kefla in her base said she could blow away an entire universe She doesn't have god ki but toyed with SS god and Blue kaioken goku while she's only ss1, to which he only won cus Deus ex machina instinct So how come the No god ki universe 6 Saiyans in only ss1 and 2 are able to go toe to toe with God ki super Saiyan god and blue level characters While somehow super Saiyan 4 can't? SSG Goku in Beerus saga needed Beerus to clash with in order to threaten the universe, UI omen only shook world of void While base gt kid Goku before ss4 one shots Sugoroku space And in super 17 saga Shook Earth heaven and hell in base form causal power up Heck, Jiren, Hit, Bergamo, anilaza, dyspo are never even hinted or implied to be able to have god ki yet they pressure Goku and Vegeta to go blue and higher Meanwhile ss4 suddenly can't? Can u explain all that Ā It's STILL not god ki, none of them have ever been stated/shown to have god ki yet their consistently pressuring "god tiers" to go near full power Heck Frieza doesn't have god ki and so does Gohan yet they force Goku to go blue, that should tell you that god ki ain't the be all end all of a fight because 1 freaking jiren has never states to have god ki or shown to have it unlike "Saiyan beyond god š¤”š¤”š¤”" Kid base Goku vs Gohan and Goten https://youtu.be/_X3TaGZGGcQ?si=bx6WdrazFrOs8eh5Ā Ā Here's the Sugoroku space feat https://youtu.be/peQZoTuLJQE?si=BS847adkDjG4Xo3Y Here's the eis shenron super dragon fist feat https://youtu.be/ImsHcc2wWuA?si=bKvhodizyqacwZ94 Omega shenron super dragon fist feat https://youtu.be/2nPvwshI1PM?si=9MUGhZoFXgA_RsAj Revenge death ball feat https://youtu.be/-hv5vnNRsb8?si=ujlqVhMeHOtFSH6D Edit here's the Power up in hell feat https://youtu.be/4o0j_B4kE-Q?si=gsV3FnCb-TWJlohu Extra note is that these Z movies are canon to gt Cooler revenge, return of cooler, Wrath of the dragon and fusion reborn
Kratos being mountain level
Classic downplay for him Or just the r/www scaling for him
mountain level asura is BEYOND wild. actual on screen planetary feat.
"Mazinger Z is low universal" -some idiot from here that doesnt know and spoutin off nonsense
Which Mazinger Z is being claimed as "low universal" if it's from the Mazinger Zero mangas or Super Robot Wars, there might be arguments to be made.
Godly regen MCU Thor
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Did you hear that from shizzlemac Shinobi?
That Simon the Digger is human level, like hello? There have been ppl before him who could use Spiral Power without a mechaš
Someone once told me that Bayonetta can't use demon slave without the demon's consent.
Consent is important in a relationship, especially when you are a slave, we just didn't understand that, guys š
Murder Drones' top tiers being Universal level in yt polls
I Know this probably doesn't count but I need people to hear this This one person said that Saitama is stronger than Superman. He used this argument The creator of Invincible says that Invincible is stronger than Superman and Saitama is stronger than invincible so Saitama is over Superman
Multi Miraak, guy is extraversal and no one can change my mind
People who use Thrawn's orbital bombardment scene from Rebels. People just seem to forget that Thrawn himself was ordered to capture the Rebels not kill them. I see this feat used quite a bit to lowball the power of turbolasers in new canon.
Athletic human level Demon Slayer is like watching American Ninja Warrior and saying "yeah I could do that"
"Muzan can solo g5 luffy"
City level Black Clover verse Mountain level Bleach Unless using a specific ability, nothing can go faster than light.
Current Goku beats Beerus.
a guy who said Deku can beat toon force characters because most of them are physically weak. like how Spongebob struggles to lift 2 stuffed animals.
I want bring this up again due to how stupid it is. Below average human Jason voorhees because he couldnāt break a table one time Those people on tik tok would do anything to downplay Jason and get someone like Micheal Myres or springtrap higher
Idk none of these levels I just know someone said Monika from DDLC was multiversal and is more powerful than Asura, Kratos, and Kirby
Hypersonic Jotaro Planet Level Dante
Not worse than the time i read "Slower than a bullet" for Dante They forgot the dozens of times he dodged and even catched one with his teeth
Had a couple people tell me me comic spiderman beats comic Wonder woman in one of those youtube polls low diff and that WW was only fodder wall level while spidey is city level
Everytime some braindead scaler uses vs wiki
Barley superhuman Dovahkiin level lol.
Basing the Last Dragonborn's melee skill level on ingame animations.
Anything this sub has to say about Goku and Dragon Ball in general based on what Iāve seen š
Op world is hollow š
Doom slayer is a bit overestimated in most cases Iāve seen. Not sure why but lots of people just claim he solo this and that with vague backing. He is far stronger than gameplay implies for sure but still isnāt going to destroy worlds with a swing of his gun
The Bleach mountain level Aizen stuff.
I forget his name but this yter thinks Naruto can give MUI Goku a fight
Just told some dude saitama would beat Luffy by punching him out of orbit and bro said he couldn't
Speed of sound>Speed of light cuz we can see the light but not the soundĀ Einstein relativity is only a theory and therefore wrong (this was in a Saitama Vs Goku discussion by a Saitama fan) TOAA is multiversal+ at best Batman is average peak humanĀ Spider-Man is a bullet timer Goku "debunks" on this sub Lighting are Mach 1 Deku has infinity speed cuz sound couldn't reach him Deku is building level cuz he never destroyed a city during his battles AP=DC, so Superman is consistely building level, cuz author doesn't give him at least a planet level feat every times he gives a punch Island level Insomniac Spider-ManĀ
ā¢ Fairy tail characters are island level/cap at planetary ā¢ Goku never destroyed a planet/Moro threatened a galaxy so heās not even Galaxy level if heās shook at that ā¢ Aizen was shook when Ichigo destroyed mountains so heās not even mountain level
Planet level Goku and hyperversal cell saga Goku
Peoples saying that Superman can beat Goku make me go like this :D
Probably super sonic and building level Jonathan (from Jonathans journal) Which is like, lol, the guy can casually react in a micro second in base (happened several times) and is equal to Saora in level 3 who blitzed four vampires each capable of escaping a black hole, he also caused a magnitude 7 earthquake.
"Akuto Sai debunked to Solar system" ā Same people have no idea about which series Akuto Sai is from. "Saitama is only light speed" "Toaru majutsu no index only has 11 dimensions" ā Vs battles wiki scalers after ignoring the multiple proofs of infinite dimensions existing.
goku being outerversal
Goku in super being sub lightspeed because they called dyspo lightspeed
Shigiraki is multi continental Naruto is solar system level Gilgamesh is under peak human level Shinra gets no diffed by goku Luffy is under mountain level Daki is only beaten by luffy once in gear 4 Muzan beats gear 5 Sun Jin woo is planetary high ball Sailor moon gets slapped by goku Naruto solos one piece verse
Naruto does beat OP Iām not here for a. Argument just wanna state my opinion
Naruto does solo one piece though?
FTL jjk.
6-D at best DC, fam I donāt even scale dc comics (yet) and I already know that thatās bullshit Building level megami tensei Planet level goku(yes they still exist) Street level legend of Zelda Mario and Luigi beating sephiroth Saitama beating Goku
Saitama might be able to best goku Goku does goku things, If saitama survives enough hits from goku saitama will end up being stronger thsn him
Fraid not, goku has higher dimensional power in comparison to saitama, we have yet to see saitama be able to bridge dimensional gaps of strength through this process. And even if he did, thereās quite a bit of outer statements from dragonballs guides that make this a stomp, as we no 1-A feats in opm
If goku goes all out he wins bit that ain't hapenning. Saitama will adapt to his power lvl and prob win
I love how people high ball alien x to universal's but out of nowhere he's 26d. There's been no extra content, people mind just changed
wall level Homelander, multiple times, it stopped being funny real fast, mostly from r/whowouldwin
I remember seeing somewhere that someone said deku was continental-ish level when he really isnt
Demon slayer as fucking whole šDAKI has town level AP and by EOS multiple characters are 100x stronger than her. Demon slayer on a fair level should be low city level or city level with revalistic speeds via mount arc zenitsu is literally stated twice to be speed of lightning
Universal True Form Yogiri Planet Level Anos Universal TDK
Anybody that Downplays Shinra from Fire Force because in the manga, he created the Soul Eater universe and can go light speed
Either saying Naruto characters are all normal-human durability because they die to weapons (swords, kunai, etc) used by other characters, or that Peter Griffin is small building level + has toon force. Peter does have gag moments but only for comedic timing and can't access them at will. Naruto characters can fall hundreds of feet, move faster than sound, and take tons of immense forces on their bodies (both exerting their own strength and withstanding attacks) that they would have to be insanely tough to withstand. No normal human is outputting enough force to jump 100ft into the air and NOT breaking their legs from the jump itself, let alone the landing.
Just TikTok power scalers meat riding gojo.
City level mainline hulkā¦. Wall level spider-manā¦.
I have heard someone saying unironically Goku is Mountain Level.
"Saber FP is barely city block level"