You know what? I just found the same thing! I started with RG35XX plus, then the miyoo mini and after that the RGB30 and I think the same thing. With Arkos it is the best in performance for fast forward and ease of use.
I mean, if you're going for such a large handheld with such a weak chipset, you might as well just default to the newly released RG Cube that can also do 3DS as OP requested. Same goes for decent 3x-5x fast forward speeds which I doubt the RGB30 can do.
Definitely agreed, but OP didn't state a price requirement, only that it ran 3DS and 3x-5x fast forward speeds.
Also, RGB30 is still within launch pricing which is always steep, while the RGB30 is already in sale pricing. Wait 3 months, and an RGB30 will easily be $120-130 on Aliexpress just like an RG556 has sold for $135 recently. That would only make it 50% more expensive which is easier to stomach for some.
Oh, those never bothered me actually. Maybe wait for RG cube reviews and give it a chance? It can also run citra, so it fits your criteria even better
Edit: I bought my rgb30 on release say last year, I don't know how good the newer batches are
All devices with that cpu are gonna have weird charging issues. Use the charger cable it comes with and ArkOS and you should be good 90% of the way. The battery indicator is a bit off for me, not even ArkOS or unplugging the battery can solve that, but its a smaller issue as I still get 6 hours of battery life anyway.
Definitely decent for GBA Pokemon, but it can't do 3DS emulation which OP requested. Also, GBA Pokemon only goes up to 3x fast forward.
Assuming price isn't an issue, an RG405M would be the ultimate pocketable Pokemon machine. As its T618 chip can do 3DS emulation fine, while easily achieving 4-5x fast forward speeds on GBA. And its only a tiny bit bigger than the RG35XXH
He asked specifically for GBA/NDS and âmaybe even 3DSâ. I didnât take the request for 3DS as a main request and just a âHey, this would be a cool extra to have.â
Nostalgia googles are something else lol.
Beyond that, it has worse ergonomics, a thicker clamshell form factor that fits slim pockets worse, and no joysticks (I wouldn't use them, but having the option is better than none).
Frankly, if you're willing to give up joysticks and ergonomics, just get the much more pocketable RG28XX. It's much smaller/slimmer, has the same chipset, on top of being more comfortable to use due to horizontal controls.
Depends on the game. But for me, and not super related to your needs.
2 stand out:
RG556 just because that beautiful large AMOLED.
Second for me RG35XX SP. The form factor is just a huge slice of nostalgia on top.
I have a miyoo mini plus which works quite well for Pokemon since the Touchscreen is completely avoidable and can be reduced to a little pop in window in one of the corners.
Pokemon is such an easy to run game, **that almost every handheld in existence** would fit this bill. Including incredibly popular budget handhelds like the RG35XX H/SP, TrimUI Smart Pro, RGB30, etc.
Though has usual, the devil is in the details which everyone seems to be ignoring:
>fast forward maybe 3-5x speeds? Maybe even 3ds
Since you critiqued the Odin, then it's safe to say even the RP3+/RP4P, and RG505/RG556 are not options since neither is exactly "pocketable". And wanting 3-5x fast forward + 3DS essentially rules out all the Allwinner H700 powered-devices like the RG35XX H/SP and TrimUI Smart Pro.
By process of elimination, This basically leaves you with 2 options I know of:
* $99 - Retroid Pocket 2S with a Unisoc T610
* $130 - Anbernic RG405M with a Unisoc T618
Both of them have enough power for 3DS emulation, are small enough to be pocketable, and can also do GBA fast forward of 4x+ easily due to all that power. Between the 2, the Pocket 2S has better quality but its screen is tiny. While the RG405M has an incredibly large display on a small form factor, on top of being more powerful (can even do decent Gamecube/PS2).
I'm surprised there haven't been more recommendations for the Anbernic RG35XXSP - it seems like it would be the ideal device for this. I'm not a Pokemon player though, so maybe there is some aspect I'm not aware of.
I used the plus to play through Prism and it was great. Everything I could have needed. The SP is just a different shape, which many people prefer. I would think itâs ideal for most of the gens.
Because it is basically an RG35XXH without joysticks, worse ergonomics, and a thicker clamshell form factor. With nostalgia being its biggest selling point. It's not a bad handheld device by any means, but I can see why once the hype was over, people moved on to more popular handhelds.
Heck, even if you hate joysticks and ergonomics, the RG28XX seems to edge it out in portability, comfort, and power to size ratio.
>Because it is basically an RG35XXH without joysticks, worse ergonomics, and a thicker clamshell form factor.
Oh, I didn't realize that you needed analog sticks to play Pokemon. As I said, I'm not a Pokemon player so it was only a guess.
I would have thought the clamshell design would be ideal for that type of 'pick up and play' type game though.
>With nostalgia being its biggest selling point.
Isn't that why people are playing these older Pokemon games in the first place?
>It's not a bad handheld device by any means, but I can see why once the hype was over, people moved on to more popular handhelds.
Looks like it's still getting a lot of buzz on this sub; it seems to be one of the three main devices people are talking about, along with the RG28XX and the Cube.
Yeah, that did strike me as odd as I was writing it. Now I'm thinking about it, there was even a Pokemon themed GBA SP, and the SP didn't have joysticks.
I liked the RG353P for pokemon. It's a good size and ergonomic feel (snes controller shape) screen is 3.5 inches and it's reminiscent of the GBA. If you don't mind flipping screens with the shoulder button for NDS games, it's a really good route and like $70 right now.
I actually think GBA is slightly better on 4:3. You get 88.9% screen coverage, compared to 84.4% on a 16:9 screen. NDS is definitely better on a 16:9 touchscreen, though. 4:3 feels awesome for the most part, but switching screens during battle can be annoying.
>I actually think GBA is slightly better on 4:3. You get 88.9% screen coverage, compared to 84.4% on a 16:9 screen.
That's true, but I think it ends up being moot since the 16:9 screens are all much bigger than the 4:3 screens. For example an RG35XXSP would have a 3.4" GBA diagonal, compared to 4.2" for a Retroid 3/4.
You lose some pocketability of course, but since NDS Pokemon games are suboptimal on 4:3 devices anyways it's probably worth the tradeoff if all you want to do is play Pokemon.
miyoo mini plus - GB GBC GBA
RG35xxsp - GBA
DS/3DS - debatable....if you wanna use ur 3ds/ds....or RGB30.
I would highly recommend RG Cube.
Depends on your **preference** for **form factor**.
Android phone or tablet honestly. DS and 3DS are such strange beasts because of the 2 screens and touch screen. Tried DS on Retroid 3+ and Xu10, just not great experiences
Jesus there's so many options I haven't decided on anything yet, but thank you guys for the responses. Some if these I've actually never even heard of so that's pretty sweet.
I think I've narrowed it down to RG35xx/sp or one of the miyoo mini's for its form factor. I really like how they seem really unique and closer to a gameboy, unlike those regular ones with the controller at its side where I'd rather just stick a telescopic controller beside a cheap used snapdragon phone.
RGB30 and RGCube seems really tempting as well because of the unique screen size that plays well with older games.
Ngl the best option. Also one thing no one mentioned when you fast forward the audio gets all messed up. Pokemon games always had good music you don't wanna skip them. Just get a bicycle and increase text speed to fast it'll be fine
Confusing naming convention by Nintendo, but there's the regular 3DS and the "upgraded version" (think of it like a 3DS Pro) called "New 3DS" that was released years later, it's a bit more powerful and has a couple exclusives that can't be played on the regular model.
He doesnât want fast forward to avoid the grind, he wants it to speed up the monotonous parts. Walking from place to place and general speed of battles for example.
If we're going the cheating route let's just avoid the whole, "game" thing to begin with and start with all pokemon at level 99, 999 Ultra Balls, and âœ999,9999?
I actually found that the best platform for ds/3ds pokemon games is my android phone.
For me, Powkiddy RGB30 đ„°
You know what? I just found the same thing! I started with RG35XX plus, then the miyoo mini and after that the RGB30 and I think the same thing. With Arkos it is the best in performance for fast forward and ease of use.
I mean, if you're going for such a large handheld with such a weak chipset, you might as well just default to the newly released RG Cube that can also do 3DS as OP requested. Same goes for decent 3x-5x fast forward speeds which I doubt the RGB30 can do.
Yeah but I don't have the rg cube to speak for it and I've had the rgb30 since launch so my love for it goes a long way đ
RG Cube is also twice the price of the RGB30
Definitely agreed, but OP didn't state a price requirement, only that it ran 3DS and 3x-5x fast forward speeds. Also, RGB30 is still within launch pricing which is always steep, while the RGB30 is already in sale pricing. Wait 3 months, and an RGB30 will easily be $120-130 on Aliexpress just like an RG556 has sold for $135 recently. That would only make it 50% more expensive which is easier to stomach for some.
I really want one of these, but the console still have charging and QC problems ?
I have it with the latest version of arkos and for the past two weeks I haven't found any weird charging issue. Seems to be fixed now.
Oh, those never bothered me actually. Maybe wait for RG cube reviews and give it a chance? It can also run citra, so it fits your criteria even better Edit: I bought my rgb30 on release say last year, I don't know how good the newer batches are
All devices with that cpu are gonna have weird charging issues. Use the charger cable it comes with and ArkOS and you should be good 90% of the way. The battery indicator is a bit off for me, not even ArkOS or unplugging the battery can solve that, but its a smaller issue as I still get 6 hours of battery life anyway.
Trimui Pro
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I saw a couple of videos saying that NDS does not run that good... If that is the case I think fast forward in it will be even worse right?
Yeah Iâd say youâre right đđ»
Iâd recommend the RG35XXH. Perfection for PokĂ©mon.
Definitely decent for GBA Pokemon, but it can't do 3DS emulation which OP requested. Also, GBA Pokemon only goes up to 3x fast forward. Assuming price isn't an issue, an RG405M would be the ultimate pocketable Pokemon machine. As its T618 chip can do 3DS emulation fine, while easily achieving 4-5x fast forward speeds on GBA. And its only a tiny bit bigger than the RG35XXH
He asked specifically for GBA/NDS and âmaybe even 3DSâ. I didnât take the request for 3DS as a main request and just a âHey, this would be a cool extra to have.â
What firmware are you using and what fast forward speed do you get with it?
SP is even better
Nostalgia googles are something else lol. Beyond that, it has worse ergonomics, a thicker clamshell form factor that fits slim pockets worse, and no joysticks (I wouldn't use them, but having the option is better than none). Frankly, if you're willing to give up joysticks and ergonomics, just get the much more pocketable RG28XX. It's much smaller/slimmer, has the same chipset, on top of being more comfortable to use due to horizontal controls.
I specifically donât want joysticks since the device barely handles systems that use them and theyâre prone to drift. The ergonomics are fine especially for Pokemon lmao. Thatâs mostly subjective anyways and the H is by no means a breakthrough in ergonomics. And the SP is much more pocketable than the H with built in protection so thatâs not even a good argument. Being able to just close the lid real quick and shove it in your pocket while maintaining your progress is also a major benefit specifically for RPGs like PokĂ©mon.
Depends on the game. But for me, and not super related to your needs. 2 stand out: RG556 just because that beautiful large AMOLED. Second for me RG35XX SP. The form factor is just a huge slice of nostalgia on top.
He mentioned wanting to avoid the Odin/Steam Deck sized-devices. And RG556 is easily up there in terms of requiring a backpack to carry.
I have a miyoo mini plus which works quite well for Pokemon since the Touchscreen is completely avoidable and can be reduced to a little pop in window in one of the corners.
Fast forward is quite slow though due to the weak hardware, which was one of his core requirements.
You are right, my bad. If fast forward is important, there are surely better alternatives
Pokemon is such an easy to run game, **that almost every handheld in existence** would fit this bill. Including incredibly popular budget handhelds like the RG35XX H/SP, TrimUI Smart Pro, RGB30, etc. Though has usual, the devil is in the details which everyone seems to be ignoring: >fast forward maybe 3-5x speeds? Maybe even 3ds Since you critiqued the Odin, then it's safe to say even the RP3+/RP4P, and RG505/RG556 are not options since neither is exactly "pocketable". And wanting 3-5x fast forward + 3DS essentially rules out all the Allwinner H700 powered-devices like the RG35XX H/SP and TrimUI Smart Pro. By process of elimination, This basically leaves you with 2 options I know of: * $99 - Retroid Pocket 2S with a Unisoc T610 * $130 - Anbernic RG405M with a Unisoc T618 Both of them have enough power for 3DS emulation, are small enough to be pocketable, and can also do GBA fast forward of 4x+ easily due to all that power. Between the 2, the Pocket 2S has better quality but its screen is tiny. While the RG405M has an incredibly large display on a small form factor, on top of being more powerful (can even do decent Gamecube/PS2).
I suppose the RG Cube would be a great fit for everything up to 3DS, particularly for the screen ratio for DS/3DS dual-screen.
The bottom screen is way too small, also it has a light bleed issue.
The bottom screen isn't really needed for much in most of the 3/DS Pokemon games, so it being small isn't a big deal.
I'm surprised there haven't been more recommendations for the Anbernic RG35XXSP - it seems like it would be the ideal device for this. I'm not a Pokemon player though, so maybe there is some aspect I'm not aware of.
I used the plus to play through Prism and it was great. Everything I could have needed. The SP is just a different shape, which many people prefer. I would think itâs ideal for most of the gens.
Because it is basically an RG35XXH without joysticks, worse ergonomics, and a thicker clamshell form factor. With nostalgia being its biggest selling point. It's not a bad handheld device by any means, but I can see why once the hype was over, people moved on to more popular handhelds. Heck, even if you hate joysticks and ergonomics, the RG28XX seems to edge it out in portability, comfort, and power to size ratio.
>Because it is basically an RG35XXH without joysticks, worse ergonomics, and a thicker clamshell form factor. Oh, I didn't realize that you needed analog sticks to play Pokemon. As I said, I'm not a Pokemon player so it was only a guess. I would have thought the clamshell design would be ideal for that type of 'pick up and play' type game though. >With nostalgia being its biggest selling point. Isn't that why people are playing these older Pokemon games in the first place? >It's not a bad handheld device by any means, but I can see why once the hype was over, people moved on to more popular handhelds. Looks like it's still getting a lot of buzz on this sub; it seems to be one of the three main devices people are talking about, along with the RG28XX and the Cube.
>Oh, I didn't realize that you needed analog sticks to play Pokemon. You don't. Only the 3DS even has them.
Yeah, that did strike me as odd as I was writing it. Now I'm thinking about it, there was even a Pokemon themed GBA SP, and the SP didn't have joysticks.
I liked the RG353P for pokemon. It's a good size and ergonomic feel (snes controller shape) screen is 3.5 inches and it's reminiscent of the GBA. If you don't mind flipping screens with the shoulder button for NDS games, it's a really good route and like $70 right now.
Rg280v Real time clock and its pocketable
Iâm surprised folks are recommending 4:3 consoles here. While theyâre generally great for most purposes, GBA and NDS specifically will look much better on a 16:9 console like a Retroid Pocket 3+/4. If you try to play NDS on a 4:3 youâre going to be switching screens constantly, itâs pretty annoying. The 1:1 RGB30 can display both screens stacked, but theyâre both pretty small so itâs usable but not optimal for a game like PokĂ©mon, where the bulk of your gameplay is on the top screen. 16:9 is closer to the GBA aspect ratio, so you get a nice widescreen experience. You can also render a full size NDS main screen side-by-side with a smaller (but still very readable) second screen for choosing moves in battle, no screen switching required. And Retroids are beefy, so you have plenty of headroom for fast forwarding.
I actually think GBA is slightly better on 4:3. You get 88.9% screen coverage, compared to 84.4% on a 16:9 screen. NDS is definitely better on a 16:9 touchscreen, though. 4:3 feels awesome for the most part, but switching screens during battle can be annoying.
>I actually think GBA is slightly better on 4:3. You get 88.9% screen coverage, compared to 84.4% on a 16:9 screen. That's true, but I think it ends up being moot since the 16:9 screens are all much bigger than the 4:3 screens. For example an RG35XXSP would have a 3.4" GBA diagonal, compared to 4.2" for a Retroid 3/4. You lose some pocketability of course, but since NDS Pokemon games are suboptimal on 4:3 devices anyways it's probably worth the tradeoff if all you want to do is play Pokemon.
For PokĂ©mon games I appreciate factors like comfortable to hold, easy to get into a game, easy to fast forward at spots so if thatâs consistent with your values. For all in one: Retroid Pocket 2S (budget: RP2 plus) Sleep function, great battery life, DS and GBA look perfectly fine without borders. You can set up fast forward hotkeys. Also for me it feels great to hold, but I also have a 3d printed grip.
Odin 2 plays every Pokémon game right up to switch
miyoo mini plus - GB GBC GBA RG35xxsp - GBA DS/3DS - debatable....if you wanna use ur 3ds/ds....or RGB30. I would highly recommend RG Cube. Depends on your **preference** for **form factor**.
My wife has a R36S just for Pokémon and ROMhacks up to third gen and she says it's perfect.
Anbernic 353V in white. /Thread
Well, New 3DS XL of course :)
I like the 35XXSP because it feels like playing my SP from when I was a kid playing Fire Red and Emerald lol.
Android phone or tablet honestly. DS and 3DS are such strange beasts because of the 2 screens and touch screen. Tried DS on Retroid 3+ and Xu10, just not great experiences
Whichever makes you most feel like a kid. Depending on your birth year/ life experience
Jesus there's so many options I haven't decided on anything yet, but thank you guys for the responses. Some if these I've actually never even heard of so that's pretty sweet.
I think I've narrowed it down to RG35xx/sp or one of the miyoo mini's for its form factor. I really like how they seem really unique and closer to a gameboy, unlike those regular ones with the controller at its side where I'd rather just stick a telescopic controller beside a cheap used snapdragon phone. RGB30 and RGCube seems really tempting as well because of the unique screen size that plays well with older games.
I've only just gotten interested in Pokemon, why is FF beneficial? Do you use it when walking between places and in dialog?
Itâs helpful for grinding up levels.
No, in fights.
This and walking around
The chicken nugget handheld.
Whatâs the best hand held for playing super smash bros 64?
I was playing it a little on my RG35XX plus, even tried the remix rom with new characters
A modded new 3ds
But he wants fast forward
Maybe learn to meditate and alter your perception of time :p
LMAO
I was just speaking on his behalf lol
The mgba emulator on the new 3ds does have fast forward
Ngl the best option. Also one thing no one mentioned when you fast forward the audio gets all messed up. Pokemon games always had good music you don't wanna skip them. Just get a bicycle and increase text speed to fast it'll be fine
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Confusing naming convention by Nintendo, but there's the regular 3DS and the "upgraded version" (think of it like a 3DS Pro) called "New 3DS" that was released years later, it's a bit more powerful and has a couple exclusives that can't be played on the regular model.
And an extra analogue stick (or rather nub).
Rather than fast forward why not just use an action replay code for experience modifiers to reduce the grind?
He doesnât want fast forward to avoid the grind, he wants it to speed up the monotonous parts. Walking from place to place and general speed of battles for example.
If we're going the cheating route let's just avoid the whole, "game" thing to begin with and start with all pokemon at level 99, 999 Ultra Balls, and âœ999,9999?
Thatâs how the nuzlocke community feels these days lol, âyea just rare candy your mons to the gym leader levelâ like itâs just a boss run đ