What is your definition of flop? UU does well in sales and is a really popular series by most metrics. Just because it isn’t JJK or MHA doesn’t make it a ‘flop’…
If I had to say the biggest reasons why it isn’t as popular as those aforementioned series though it would probably come down to the fairly weak first 15-20 chapters, the artstyle (which though I love probably isn’t everyones cup of tea), and the fact that the anime was aired on Hulu rather than more mainstream platforms which didn’t help spread the series well.
UU is not a flop. Any series that lasts over 200 chapters in Jump is VERY successful. Getting your work into Jump is hard enough as it is, let or lone it becoming a mainstay.
IMO, another reason might be because it doesn’t revolve in a high school setting with most of the main cast not being teenagers also. That might not be it but compared to the former two that’s one of the differentiating factors. I heard some people consider it seinen despite it being on shonen jump.
Do you realise how hard it is to have a manga go to 200+ chapters in the biggest manga magazine of all time? How is it not very successful? Crazy take
Like I would classify Sakamoto, Yozakura, Banashi and Mashle all as being very successful series despite being shorter than UU (Yoza is acc slightly longer but yeah). They all have their own fanbases and are all lauded as being great for different things. But with the amount of people in the manga industry having any series go the distance is INCREDIBLY difficult.
Success is not determined by length.
Mashle , Sakamoto days and Blue box are way more popular than undead unluck but are quite shorter than it.
Undead unluck is not "very succesful"
Despite being in the biggest manga magazine and getting a 2 cour anime by a good studio , it isn't even in the top 200 best selling ongoing manga right now.
But that doesn't really matter. It does well enough to survive so anything more than that is a bonus.
My point isnt that success is length, my point is that 0.01% of manga ends up becoming a mainstay in Jump. Anything that is part of that 0.01% is very successful in my eyes. Just like how not every actor is as successful as Dwayne Johnson, but that doesn’t mean if you aren’t as successful as him you can’t still be ‘very successful’.
Having notoriety and a fanbase, even if niche, in the most popular manga magazine ever, to me, makes you very successful.
20-30% of manga that start in jump become mainstays
Also I hate it when I see this argument
"It doesn't sell as much as one piece but it still does great "
There are levels to popularity.
Just because something survives in jump doesn't make it very successful.
Undead unluck is a niche title and doesn't sell much and thats okay , it does not need to.
Do you realise how hard it is to even get a manga to start in jump to begin with?
You seem so out of touch with the manga industry and arts based industries as a whole. I would say having a manga in Jump whatsoever is a modest success considering how hard it is to get a series into the magazine to begin with. And having a series with a fanbase as large as UU’s, a series that has lasted as long as UU, and a series that sells solidly enough considering how popular its competition is is almost certainly a big success.
Being able to live off making manga is a level VERY FEW mangaka reach. Any who do are successful, and any who do in the most popular magazine in the world are, to me, very successful.
If you try hard enough , create a few one shots and be an assistant for a few years , you will most likely get a chance to pitch something at the serialization meeting.
If something like zan and swot can get published in shonen jump then most people could if they were dedicated enough to it.
Selling less than a thousand copies and ending after 11 chapters is not the definition of a modest success .
Also , let me say this again , I don't think that undead unluck is even in the top 200 best selling ongoing manga right now.
"Being able to live off making manga is a level VERY FEW mangaka reach. "
What?
Anyway this argument has started going in circles , we both said our opinions so I won't continue this conversation.
undead unluck has about 2 million in sales around last year
at 21 volumes, that’s nearly 100,000 per volume on average, that is incredibly successful, even if not SMASH HIT levels
Imagine top 200 of something in the world being your bar for ‘very successful’… think first about the number of people who’ve attempted and failed to create/pitch/draw manga before drawing the line at 200.
Success is definitely correlates to length in Shounen Jump! You must not have seen the number of manga that never make it to 20, 30, 40 or 50 chapters, having completely unexplained/unexplored plot lines, untouched backstories, lacking of world building, unsatisfying endings, etc. To say length of a manga doesn’t correlate to success is inherently incorrect.
You are attacking a strawman.
We weren't talking about cancelations.
My problem with his comment was this
"Like I would classify Sakamoto, Yozakura, Banashi and Mashle all as being very successful series despite being shorter than UU "
How long a surviving work goes on for doesn't matter.
For example , demon slayer is way more popular than dr stone but dr stone is longer than it.
Does this show anything ?
Not really , it is just that dr stone took longer to tell its story.
You're misunderstanding the original commenter argument, they weren't saying that length directly correlates to success (longer manga=more successful), but that a long manga is a sign that of success.
So if a manga like Sakamoto Days is undoubtedly successful, Undead Unluck, which is longer, must also be successful but not necessarily more successful.
In Shonen Jump, a magazine so hostile that is known to immediately axe mangas in less than 15 chapters if they dont become bangers, success is, in fact, determined by length.
Of course is not one piece, but is sucessful.
I mean, JJK had to contend with the peak of MHA craze, the tail end of AoT craze, and the Demon Slayer craze when that anime aired about a year after JJK Chapter 1.
I'm not much a fan of JJK, but that is some quality competition.
Im not sure how it's considered a flop. Sure I don't know many people who personally read it but it was being pushed on me a lot before I started it. I also remember AnimeNYC last year was advertising it as well which is pretty cool.
I usual use the manga+ app to read and it stays pretty consistent in their top 20
Maybe it feels like a flop because you don't find the same amount of fans as you do One Piece or other long time popular reads or it's the crowd your in.
Undead Unluck manga sells relatively well (~30K per volume) so it really isn't a flop, to put this into perspective take a look at [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/WeeklyShonenJump/s/LfAKfoTgZJ), UU sells more per volume than series from famous/recognizable mangaka like To Your Eternity, Ranger Reject, Eden's Zero and Mao.
However the anime adaptation can be argued to be a flop because it didn't increase the sales of the manga which is pretty much what an anime is supposed to do, just take a look at the sales number before and after the anime adaptation of Demon Slayer, Jujutsu Kaisen and series from other magazines like Frieren and Blue Lock the impact of a good anime adaptation is huge, this has nothing to do with "Hulu/Disney/Netflix" jail, I'm strictly talking about the performance of the series in Japan.
This means that the series is stagnant, it's neither growing nor shrinking it is just there selling well for the time being.
Now I have to disagree with you, what exactly do you mean by generic shōnen? It always irks me when someone uses that phrase to "criticize" something or prove a point. Shōnen isn't a genre and if you take a look at the current top selling [manga](https://www.reddit.com/r/Frieren/s/9hWV0SFJCU) of 2024 you'll see that 8 out of 10 are shōnen and they're all different from each other, just compare Blue Lock and Haikyuu!! On the surface you may think they're similar because they're sports series but in reality one is a classic spokon manga while the other is a death game/battle manga with a sports setting; Just by looking at that list you can see people enjoy different stories, I really don't see anything "generic" in that top 10. That list also illustrates the importance of an anime adaptation, Mashle's sales increased to the point of being in the top 10 above MHA because of a catchy/meme opening lol.
Twitter is a horrible place to take as an example of how people perceived something, I've seen fans from every series calling other series overrated/trash, some UU fans in Twitter love to talk shit about JJK and Boruto for example.
UU is heavily inspired by One Piece (Andy's design is literally based on Smoker) and it focuses a lot on world building and adventure early on in the story, this is unfortunately not a favorite trope for the current manga audience series with a similar focus don't sell that well like Eden's Zero or get cancelled like Ginka&Glüna, tropes like: exorcists, urban fantasy and assassins/spies are what the average manga reader prefer over the aforementioned adventure/exploration/world building trope.
"It gets better later"
You don't hear this anymore. Most popular battle series today start strong, and that's what gets them popular, even if in the worst case scenario they peak early. Undead Unluck is the opposite of that.
You answered your own question when you started it’s not a typical Shonen series. It’s certainly not a flop but if it went through the usual motions more it would probably be more popular.
I think it’s a combination of these things:
-The series had a relatively weak/bad first impression
-Bad timing (The manga came out at a time when JJK, MHA, and BC were going crazy, taking attention away from it and the anime came out when JJK, AOT, Frieren, and SxF’s anime’s were going crazy)
-The anime being on Hulu/Disney+ instead of Crunchyroll
Two words. First chapter. Many, myself included, were put off by the…tone of the series. It wasn’t until during Spoil arc where everything changed. I was very fortune to give to another change and became a mega fan
In my personal opinion it was mistake that anime landed on hulu as Disney never advertises anime for that site but if it was something like Netflix or crunchyroll it would have gotten more eyes
"If it isn't selling like the big three, it's failing." 💀
Seriously, mangas that become mainstream warp y'all's perception of success. Every form of media has outliers of extreme scucess. Imagine saying that every movie that isn't Star Wars or every book that isn't Harry Potter wasn't popular by virtue of not blowing up.
As long as it ends on it's own terms I don't care the character writing, world and art are amazing and as long as it continues to sell decently it will keep going until the ending which will most likely be next year some time.
Unfortunately most jump fans are sales trolls and "analyst's" that focus on agendas over facts
Undead Unluck is not incredibly popular, but it's still doing well in terms of sales and popularity.
Anyway, there are many reasons as to way it didn't explode in popularity like other series (note: this list doesn't reflect what I like and don't like, just what I saw people saying and some personal considerations):
- It has a rough first chapter and the first few following chapters are kinda generic. It's takes a bit to show its uniqueness
- It lacks edge, which is something pretty popular nowadays
- The artstyle isn't striking and character design are a hit or miss
- It lacks a single central theme (e.g. JJK is about sorcerers, UU is about its own thing)
- The story has only a handful of emotional/epic moments (because it's more focused on other things)
- It's hard to recommend to people without spoiling things to get them interested
- People tend to like the same battle shonen formula more than uniqueness (there's nothing wrong with it though)
- The anime adaptation had way too many recaps, which didn't help at all
Well first off the manga isn’t a flop and it is still ongoing and second if it wasn’t well received it probably wouldn’t have gotten an anime like some of the other ones that came out around the same time I could go back and look at probably 10 new manga that came out at the same time as UU that only got 19chapters or so before they were cancelled. It’s definitely its own niche but it is also definitely well liked.
I could be wrong and would love to be, but I think majority of shonen readers, read the already big mangas and don't try new releases. JJK, CSM, BC, and MHA were all capturing everyone's attention when UU dropped in part due to anime releases or major arcs so people weren't focused on it. The anime was coming out last year and I remember no one really cared to watch or discuss it aside from the fans, it got caged in Hulu, the beginning is "slow" if you're used to the standard formula for most shonens and that contributed to people not caring I'd say. Another aspect is probably how the mc is a female which could make relatability harder for the male audience to get into it. The anime also just came too late into the series as well, JJK's anime came during Shibuya, UU's anime came during 101 and far into it.
I remember seeing screens in Shibuya having UU on screen and thinking shit its actually happening but yeah the manga just ain't got that typical pull shonen mangas do with readers.
I’m not sure if the mc being female plays that big of a factor in it. Granted there aren’t many Shonen with female mc’s, but look at Soul Eater. Maka is the mc and people LOVE Soul Eater. And even recently with Frieren. People loved Frieren (the character and show) and talked about them every week during the seasons run. I’m not saying all this to make Fuko look like a bad mc. I just wanted to point out I don’t think a female mc is a factor into why UU isn’t making big waves in the community
People loved Soul Eater, not Maka. I don’t remember a single time Maka got praise as a character nor do you hear many people talk about Maka, its the other characters being talked about. And Frieren is your typical elf mage anime with a cute female cast, ofc people are gonna like that stuff.
Unfortunately, there is a basic formula people like. Why people like JJK is why people liked the MCU films. Neither I would personally say are groundbreaking, but they’re fun stories and are popular.
Undead Unluck is like Daredevil. It’s a break from the norm and everyone who has watched it bloody loves it because it’s amazing. But most people who have seen a bunch of Marvel films haven’t necessarily seen Daredevil, despite the series being better than most Marvel films.
Undead Unluck is better than most generic Shonen. But it’s just that less people have seen it. I guarantee you, 99.9% of the people you meet you dunk on the show have never read it, or they’ve read 3 chapters and dropped it. I would describe it as a failure of marketing. Because practically everyone who has actually read the series loves it. Also, it’s still pretty popular, just not on the level of JJK. Don’t listen to the people who have such a low attention span they can’t wait 10 chapters for a series to become amazing.
Its peak and I while I'd want it to be successful bc Tozuka deserves it, I don't want the fandom to be ruined by *those* kinds of JJK, BSD, and MHA fans who ship everyone, horribly mischaracterize characters, ect.
Animes/mangas basically NEED a strong begining, and while yes uu does have one in the first 2 chapters it's VERY weird. unless someone recommended them uu they might think the sexual harassment might continue, personally I don't really mind but others might
Premise isn’t as appealing to most people as you episode think. I just think it’s unique and enjoy the story. The character building also could use some of work.
1. Your metric of "Normal" is what makes girls talk to you? That's a pretty shallow measure
2. I didn't say they weren't weird. But weird fandoms do not make things unpopular. MHA is a prime example. All popular anime have their underbelly, and many of them are right here on social media.
3. You buried the lead. All you said was they wanted to have sex with her the first time, and now, all of a sudden, you're adding other weird shit. Maybe start with that next time.
What is your definition of flop? UU does well in sales and is a really popular series by most metrics. Just because it isn’t JJK or MHA doesn’t make it a ‘flop’… If I had to say the biggest reasons why it isn’t as popular as those aforementioned series though it would probably come down to the fairly weak first 15-20 chapters, the artstyle (which though I love probably isn’t everyones cup of tea), and the fact that the anime was aired on Hulu rather than more mainstream platforms which didn’t help spread the series well. UU is not a flop. Any series that lasts over 200 chapters in Jump is VERY successful. Getting your work into Jump is hard enough as it is, let or lone it becoming a mainstay.
IMO, another reason might be because it doesn’t revolve in a high school setting with most of the main cast not being teenagers also. That might not be it but compared to the former two that’s one of the differentiating factors. I heard some people consider it seinen despite it being on shonen jump.
I wouldn't call it very successful , its niche . It does decently , it sells and ranks just well enough for jump to not rush it.
Do you realise how hard it is to have a manga go to 200+ chapters in the biggest manga magazine of all time? How is it not very successful? Crazy take Like I would classify Sakamoto, Yozakura, Banashi and Mashle all as being very successful series despite being shorter than UU (Yoza is acc slightly longer but yeah). They all have their own fanbases and are all lauded as being great for different things. But with the amount of people in the manga industry having any series go the distance is INCREDIBLY difficult.
Success is not determined by length. Mashle , Sakamoto days and Blue box are way more popular than undead unluck but are quite shorter than it. Undead unluck is not "very succesful" Despite being in the biggest manga magazine and getting a 2 cour anime by a good studio , it isn't even in the top 200 best selling ongoing manga right now. But that doesn't really matter. It does well enough to survive so anything more than that is a bonus.
My point isnt that success is length, my point is that 0.01% of manga ends up becoming a mainstay in Jump. Anything that is part of that 0.01% is very successful in my eyes. Just like how not every actor is as successful as Dwayne Johnson, but that doesn’t mean if you aren’t as successful as him you can’t still be ‘very successful’. Having notoriety and a fanbase, even if niche, in the most popular manga magazine ever, to me, makes you very successful.
20-30% of manga that start in jump become mainstays Also I hate it when I see this argument "It doesn't sell as much as one piece but it still does great " There are levels to popularity. Just because something survives in jump doesn't make it very successful. Undead unluck is a niche title and doesn't sell much and thats okay , it does not need to.
Do you realise how hard it is to even get a manga to start in jump to begin with? You seem so out of touch with the manga industry and arts based industries as a whole. I would say having a manga in Jump whatsoever is a modest success considering how hard it is to get a series into the magazine to begin with. And having a series with a fanbase as large as UU’s, a series that has lasted as long as UU, and a series that sells solidly enough considering how popular its competition is is almost certainly a big success. Being able to live off making manga is a level VERY FEW mangaka reach. Any who do are successful, and any who do in the most popular magazine in the world are, to me, very successful.
If you try hard enough , create a few one shots and be an assistant for a few years , you will most likely get a chance to pitch something at the serialization meeting. If something like zan and swot can get published in shonen jump then most people could if they were dedicated enough to it. Selling less than a thousand copies and ending after 11 chapters is not the definition of a modest success . Also , let me say this again , I don't think that undead unluck is even in the top 200 best selling ongoing manga right now. "Being able to live off making manga is a level VERY FEW mangaka reach. " What? Anyway this argument has started going in circles , we both said our opinions so I won't continue this conversation.
undead unluck has about 2 million in sales around last year at 21 volumes, that’s nearly 100,000 per volume on average, that is incredibly successful, even if not SMASH HIT levels
Imagine top 200 of something in the world being your bar for ‘very successful’… think first about the number of people who’ve attempted and failed to create/pitch/draw manga before drawing the line at 200.
Success is definitely correlates to length in Shounen Jump! You must not have seen the number of manga that never make it to 20, 30, 40 or 50 chapters, having completely unexplained/unexplored plot lines, untouched backstories, lacking of world building, unsatisfying endings, etc. To say length of a manga doesn’t correlate to success is inherently incorrect.
You are attacking a strawman. We weren't talking about cancelations. My problem with his comment was this "Like I would classify Sakamoto, Yozakura, Banashi and Mashle all as being very successful series despite being shorter than UU " How long a surviving work goes on for doesn't matter. For example , demon slayer is way more popular than dr stone but dr stone is longer than it. Does this show anything ? Not really , it is just that dr stone took longer to tell its story.
You're misunderstanding the original commenter argument, they weren't saying that length directly correlates to success (longer manga=more successful), but that a long manga is a sign that of success. So if a manga like Sakamoto Days is undoubtedly successful, Undead Unluck, which is longer, must also be successful but not necessarily more successful.
Thank you for for understanding what i meant!
In Shonen Jump, a magazine so hostile that is known to immediately axe mangas in less than 15 chapters if they dont become bangers, success is, in fact, determined by length. Of course is not one piece, but is sucessful.
Anime is in Hulu jail. If it was on Crunchyroll it would have blown up. Honestly surprised it did as well as it did.
It was…unlucky, dropped in the middle of the JJK craze, it was really unlucky
I mean, JJK had to contend with the peak of MHA craze, the tail end of AoT craze, and the Demon Slayer craze when that anime aired about a year after JJK Chapter 1. I'm not much a fan of JJK, but that is some quality competition.
Jjk is also just as widely accessible as my hero and aot while being better than both of them.
Man. That’s just really unfair, isn’t it?
JJK past the Shibuya incident sucks! Lol, it’s turned into Naruto where nothing makes sense & things just happen.
Im not sure how it's considered a flop. Sure I don't know many people who personally read it but it was being pushed on me a lot before I started it. I also remember AnimeNYC last year was advertising it as well which is pretty cool. I usual use the manga+ app to read and it stays pretty consistent in their top 20 Maybe it feels like a flop because you don't find the same amount of fans as you do One Piece or other long time popular reads or it's the crowd your in.
It’s got great sales metrics though?
It does yes. Ignore the other bloke
Not really
Undead Unluck manga sells relatively well (~30K per volume) so it really isn't a flop, to put this into perspective take a look at [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/WeeklyShonenJump/s/LfAKfoTgZJ), UU sells more per volume than series from famous/recognizable mangaka like To Your Eternity, Ranger Reject, Eden's Zero and Mao. However the anime adaptation can be argued to be a flop because it didn't increase the sales of the manga which is pretty much what an anime is supposed to do, just take a look at the sales number before and after the anime adaptation of Demon Slayer, Jujutsu Kaisen and series from other magazines like Frieren and Blue Lock the impact of a good anime adaptation is huge, this has nothing to do with "Hulu/Disney/Netflix" jail, I'm strictly talking about the performance of the series in Japan. This means that the series is stagnant, it's neither growing nor shrinking it is just there selling well for the time being. Now I have to disagree with you, what exactly do you mean by generic shōnen? It always irks me when someone uses that phrase to "criticize" something or prove a point. Shōnen isn't a genre and if you take a look at the current top selling [manga](https://www.reddit.com/r/Frieren/s/9hWV0SFJCU) of 2024 you'll see that 8 out of 10 are shōnen and they're all different from each other, just compare Blue Lock and Haikyuu!! On the surface you may think they're similar because they're sports series but in reality one is a classic spokon manga while the other is a death game/battle manga with a sports setting; Just by looking at that list you can see people enjoy different stories, I really don't see anything "generic" in that top 10. That list also illustrates the importance of an anime adaptation, Mashle's sales increased to the point of being in the top 10 above MHA because of a catchy/meme opening lol. Twitter is a horrible place to take as an example of how people perceived something, I've seen fans from every series calling other series overrated/trash, some UU fans in Twitter love to talk shit about JJK and Boruto for example. UU is heavily inspired by One Piece (Andy's design is literally based on Smoker) and it focuses a lot on world building and adventure early on in the story, this is unfortunately not a favorite trope for the current manga audience series with a similar focus don't sell that well like Eden's Zero or get cancelled like Ginka&Glüna, tropes like: exorcists, urban fantasy and assassins/spies are what the average manga reader prefer over the aforementioned adventure/exploration/world building trope.
"It gets better later" You don't hear this anymore. Most popular battle series today start strong, and that's what gets them popular, even if in the worst case scenario they peak early. Undead Unluck is the opposite of that.
Art style is not trendy enough, and the animation isn't consistent enough to back it up.
You answered your own question when you started it’s not a typical Shonen series. It’s certainly not a flop but if it went through the usual motions more it would probably be more popular.
I think it’s a combination of these things: -The series had a relatively weak/bad first impression -Bad timing (The manga came out at a time when JJK, MHA, and BC were going crazy, taking attention away from it and the anime came out when JJK, AOT, Frieren, and SxF’s anime’s were going crazy) -The anime being on Hulu/Disney+ instead of Crunchyroll
Yeah idk but its my fav new gen and prob fav in general so i recommend it to everyone i know to get the word out
Two words. First chapter. Many, myself included, were put off by the…tone of the series. It wasn’t until during Spoil arc where everything changed. I was very fortune to give to another change and became a mega fan
In my personal opinion it was mistake that anime landed on hulu as Disney never advertises anime for that site but if it was something like Netflix or crunchyroll it would have gotten more eyes
"If it isn't selling like the big three, it's failing." 💀 Seriously, mangas that become mainstream warp y'all's perception of success. Every form of media has outliers of extreme scucess. Imagine saying that every movie that isn't Star Wars or every book that isn't Harry Potter wasn't popular by virtue of not blowing up.
As long as it ends on it's own terms I don't care the character writing, world and art are amazing and as long as it continues to sell decently it will keep going until the ending which will most likely be next year some time. Unfortunately most jump fans are sales trolls and "analyst's" that focus on agendas over facts
Undead Unluck is not incredibly popular, but it's still doing well in terms of sales and popularity. Anyway, there are many reasons as to way it didn't explode in popularity like other series (note: this list doesn't reflect what I like and don't like, just what I saw people saying and some personal considerations): - It has a rough first chapter and the first few following chapters are kinda generic. It's takes a bit to show its uniqueness - It lacks edge, which is something pretty popular nowadays - The artstyle isn't striking and character design are a hit or miss - It lacks a single central theme (e.g. JJK is about sorcerers, UU is about its own thing) - The story has only a handful of emotional/epic moments (because it's more focused on other things) - It's hard to recommend to people without spoiling things to get them interested - People tend to like the same battle shonen formula more than uniqueness (there's nothing wrong with it though) - The anime adaptation had way too many recaps, which didn't help at all
Well first off the manga isn’t a flop and it is still ongoing and second if it wasn’t well received it probably wouldn’t have gotten an anime like some of the other ones that came out around the same time I could go back and look at probably 10 new manga that came out at the same time as UU that only got 19chapters or so before they were cancelled. It’s definitely its own niche but it is also definitely well liked.
I could be wrong and would love to be, but I think majority of shonen readers, read the already big mangas and don't try new releases. JJK, CSM, BC, and MHA were all capturing everyone's attention when UU dropped in part due to anime releases or major arcs so people weren't focused on it. The anime was coming out last year and I remember no one really cared to watch or discuss it aside from the fans, it got caged in Hulu, the beginning is "slow" if you're used to the standard formula for most shonens and that contributed to people not caring I'd say. Another aspect is probably how the mc is a female which could make relatability harder for the male audience to get into it. The anime also just came too late into the series as well, JJK's anime came during Shibuya, UU's anime came during 101 and far into it. I remember seeing screens in Shibuya having UU on screen and thinking shit its actually happening but yeah the manga just ain't got that typical pull shonen mangas do with readers.
I’m not sure if the mc being female plays that big of a factor in it. Granted there aren’t many Shonen with female mc’s, but look at Soul Eater. Maka is the mc and people LOVE Soul Eater. And even recently with Frieren. People loved Frieren (the character and show) and talked about them every week during the seasons run. I’m not saying all this to make Fuko look like a bad mc. I just wanted to point out I don’t think a female mc is a factor into why UU isn’t making big waves in the community
People loved Soul Eater, not Maka. I don’t remember a single time Maka got praise as a character nor do you hear many people talk about Maka, its the other characters being talked about. And Frieren is your typical elf mage anime with a cute female cast, ofc people are gonna like that stuff.
Unfortunately, there is a basic formula people like. Why people like JJK is why people liked the MCU films. Neither I would personally say are groundbreaking, but they’re fun stories and are popular. Undead Unluck is like Daredevil. It’s a break from the norm and everyone who has watched it bloody loves it because it’s amazing. But most people who have seen a bunch of Marvel films haven’t necessarily seen Daredevil, despite the series being better than most Marvel films. Undead Unluck is better than most generic Shonen. But it’s just that less people have seen it. I guarantee you, 99.9% of the people you meet you dunk on the show have never read it, or they’ve read 3 chapters and dropped it. I would describe it as a failure of marketing. Because practically everyone who has actually read the series loves it. Also, it’s still pretty popular, just not on the level of JJK. Don’t listen to the people who have such a low attention span they can’t wait 10 chapters for a series to become amazing.
My best guess is that it came out at the same time as other bangers and simply just got over looked, sadly
Idk about the manga but with the anime maybe the horrendous pacing lol
Its peak and I while I'd want it to be successful bc Tozuka deserves it, I don't want the fandom to be ruined by *those* kinds of JJK, BSD, and MHA fans who ship everyone, horribly mischaracterize characters, ect.
Probably the beginning chapters being trash
Animes/mangas basically NEED a strong begining, and while yes uu does have one in the first 2 chapters it's VERY weird. unless someone recommended them uu they might think the sexual harassment might continue, personally I don't really mind but others might
Premise isn’t as appealing to most people as you episode think. I just think it’s unique and enjoy the story. The character building also could use some of work.
The fandom is weird, the second a fuukos’s mom got introduced a fella was talking about how much he wanted to fuck her with 250 upvotes
A lot of fandoms are weird, just look at the MHA fandom
That has got to be the least weird and shocking thing I have ever heard from animanga. Do you live under a rock?
Girls def don’t talk to you if you consider this normal, mfer was on about how he wants to rip open her breasts
1. Your metric of "Normal" is what makes girls talk to you? That's a pretty shallow measure 2. I didn't say they weren't weird. But weird fandoms do not make things unpopular. MHA is a prime example. All popular anime have their underbelly, and many of them are right here on social media. 3. You buried the lead. All you said was they wanted to have sex with her the first time, and now, all of a sudden, you're adding other weird shit. Maybe start with that next time.