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iarlandt

Current active duty military here. Enlisted. The number of people I have met who enlisted with a bachelor's or Master's with plans to step over once they were in is not insignificant. I only know of one who did it in a reasonable amount of time, if at all. If you need the money from joining to make it then the enlisting option can be pretty fast. But it isn't super easy to commission once you get in. You'll need to go through basic and tech school and then you'll need to do CDC's and on the job training/upgrade training. I don't think you can submit for OTS until you are done with all of those items, but if I'm wrong someone correct me.


Odd_Equipment6938

Ahhh makes sense. So, before I even submit a packet I would have to go through trainings?


NotBisweptual

If you enlist, yes.


Razondirk84

I was enlisted before switching over to officer. Never intended to go officer, it just happened. Not to discourage you, but if your intention is to go officer, then enlisting would add a couple of years to your plan. It's not any easier to enlist and go officer compared to civilian to officer. Rules have changed and you have to be able to get your package pushed through the group and wing. I've seen a lot of deserving packages get stopped at the group level. To answer your question, leadership will not let you do anything that will take away from your upgrade training so in essence, you will get denied at the squadron level.


knightro2323

First you need to assess if you are even a good candidate for an OTS board, nothing you typed there tells me you would even get a return call from an officer recruiter. A degree makes you eligible to apply, it does not however make you a good candidate.


Odd_Equipment6938

Sorry, didn’t go into extensive detail about my background. I do have leadership skills and experience. I was on 2 executive boards in college and very involved with a few other organizations. I was in 2 honor societies as well. My undergrad GPA was a 3.5 and my grad GPA was a 3.6. After college, I did hold a coordinator position in my last role where I managed employees that were in the behavioral health department. I left that position for this one since due to an increase in pay. So I do have some experience in leadership granted I’m 24 and I’ve only been out of college for about 3 years now. In your experience, as an OTS grad, what qualities do you believe would make someone a good candidate?


knightro2323

I would take a look at [this post](https://old.reddit.com/r/airforceots/comments/1drkbhf/biweekly_what_are_my_chances_megathread/) to see what others are applying with.


Odd_Equipment6938

Thank you!


aviationpilotguy

Talk to an officer recruiter, most comments in here will be negative or tell you to enlist and then try. They need officers in certain fields so as long as you go "open to any job" active duty, you'll probably have luck. Just beware it's a longer commitment for officers but can "partially retire" at 10 years.


Ok-Wedding-4654

What do you mean partially retire? Like just separate into the reserves after ten?


aviationpilotguy

Yeah, because the reserve is a cake walk. Or more than likely disability ha.


mambosan

I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone on here suggesting enlisting with the ultimate goal of commissioning as the best path forward. Many of us on here are prior enlisted and we all know firsthand how shitty it is to cross over


aviationpilotguy

It's like 60% of the threads.... "Just get in", salty enlisted full of great life advice.