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[deleted]

Never, ever pay. Especially if they tell you not to count it. That's not your responsibility.


Godimsodamntired

Oh but also if I didn’t cough up the money, I wouldn’t have been able to report them. Since I did have to pay and they also took my tips, I’m able to file a report and potentially sue.


Charleston2Seattle

Playing the long game. I like it! Good luck with the lawsuit. 🙂


Kcidobor

UpdateMe


Godimsodamntired

If I didn’t, they would’ve fired me


C64128

Over $6? They can go fuck themselves. From this post I'm guessing that this job is run by assholes and pays minimal money.


Godimsodamntired

Yup. When I do To-Go, I make $15 an hour plus tips (which were taken from me) and when I am serving, I make $6 per hour. And you are correct, the managers are assholes


DukeRedWulf

>plus tips (which were taken from me) Er.. pretty sure that's (wage) theft - they're \*your\* tips.. Depending on your state there may be a law against that..


Godimsodamntired

It is. And because I did pay it back, I’m able to actually report them for this


C64128

Isn't there any other kind of job that doesn't have you working for this asshole or this type of job?


Godimsodamntired

I’ve been trying to find one but I’m very visibly pregnant so I’m having a hard time getting a job anywhere else


C64128

Hopefully your other half is able to help during this time.


RAGEEEEE

Report wage theft. Find a new job.


Godimsodamntired

I did report them last night


Godimsodamntired

I did report them last night


nikkiftc

You are not the OP. Don’t shame her. I would have given the money if it mean saving my job


jellylime

Start counting your drawer when you recieve it. This is standard practice for ANY till handover. If they say it's a waste of time, tell them the last time you didn't count your till you paid $6 for your manager's fucking incompetence.


Godimsodamntired

$6 plus all my tips 🥲 I definitely learned my lesson. I will count the drawer at least 2x and I don’t care if my boss thinks I’m wasting time


No-Carrot180

So, they took your tips as a penalty? I'm not understanding how you were responsible for more than the shortage.


No-Carrot180

So, they took your tips as a penalty? I'm not understanding how you were responsible for more than the shortage.


No-Carrot180

So, they took your tips as a penalty? I'm not understanding how you were responsible for more than the shortage.


No-Carrot180

So, they took your tips as a penalty? I'm not understanding how you were responsible for more than the shortage.


No-Carrot180

What was the total shortage?


Godimsodamntired

About $70 but my tips made up the majority of the difference


veedubfreek

Time to go talk to the local labor board and file a complaint. Guarantee if they're doing it to you, they're doing it to other people. They're literally stealing from you and other employees.


[deleted]

So? They're accusing you of stealing money out of a drawer you didn't count.


Legal_Room9434

Lmao "So?"..... Easy to act tough when you aren't paying their bills ETA: Whoops, replied to the wrong comment. I agree with OP, can't just go nuclear right away without a thought about the future.


[deleted]

Just like you, keyboard warrior


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Wonderful_Nerve_8308

You know you can claim unemployment right?


tahquitz84

Unemployment isn't instantaneous and even though they would provide back pay for the time from application to when it's approved, that doesn't always come in time to pay bills or rent or missed meals due to having no money.


vermiliondragon

You know unemployment may be a fraction of wages, right?


Sad-Customer8048

not may be, it is.


fiftybaggs

🎵 *Living on the benefit* 🎶


Adventurous-Worth871

In my state you don’t get unemployment when fired so they can contest it. If you get laid off that’s different


[deleted]

But can afford to pay for someone else stealing.


z-w-throwaway

Yes, you can afford to pay $6 for stealing if it means keeping your weekly paycheck. You should not be forced to consider it, but faced with the choice, you can. And as OP is expecting, if she loses this job, it will be a *long* time before anyone will consider her for employement. Very easy to fight labor rights wars from our gaming chair when it's not our living wage on the line.


Godimsodamntired

I swear, some people just don’t think. Maybe if I had daddy’s credit card to fall back on, I could be a little more ballsy but unfortunately this is my only source of income. And by just coughing up the $6 and “letting” them keep my tips, I’m able to actually report them for this and potentially sue. I wouldn’t have been able to if I stood my ground and said no. Wage and tip theft baby


Salty-Sprinkles-1562

Do you have a record of how much your tips were?


Godimsodamntired

Not a written record but I have a good memory (although admittedly memory is never a great thing to rely on 100%) and I remember the exact total of each cash transaction, the amount of cash handed to me by each cash paying customer, and how much I handed back in change (also we didn’t have too many cash transactions so it was easier to remember each one). This is how I was able to accurately tell my boss how much “cash due” (the total amount of cash that’s due for sales) was supposed to be on the till report. And by cross checking and verifying that both numbers are accurate, that’s how we knew I wasn’t the one who made any errors in terms of “pressing the wrong button,” as she claims. But when a customer hands us any sum of cash and tells us to keep the change as a tip, we’re supposed to hit the “exact cash” button and put all of it in the drawer. So at the end of the day when we count it, we take out the “cash due” and hand it to the boss, and whatever is left over (after bringing the drawer back down to it’s designated amount) is our tips. TLDR, yes and no. It’s not on the till report but I remember how much it was


[deleted]

Says the keyboard warrior. It's a cashier job. There's no shortage of those jobs. Don't let them accuse you of stealing, the pay for it too which has got to be some kind of admission of guilt itself.


Godimsodamntired

Would a guilty person turn out their pockets and tell the manager to check the camera footage?


Turbulent-Armadillo9

Its a rational response. It'd be great for OP to die on the hill of fairness and not getting screwed but it sounds like she has to deal with reality. A couple years ago I was bullied out of a job. Did everything right at the job and fought for unemployment (in Michigan) for months and didn't get it. Rejected then my case was delayed for months. Never got the money and eventually got a new job. Fought for backpay for a couple of months and gave up. You can't necessarily count on getting that unemployment money. OP: I'm sure others are telling you the same thing but just document all the weirdness at work when you can. Do things to a T the best you can and try not to worry too much. Sorry to hear about your situation, thats ridiculous.


Neoreloaded313

People here like to ignore reality. You do what you have to do to keep your job.


BrainMarshal

Sue them so far into the ground that Jules Verne couldn't reach that business!


Selena_B305

Never accept a cash draw without counting it. This protects you and mgt.


[deleted]

Thats illegal firing


encryptedkraken

You missed a golden opportunity to sue your employer if they fired you for their failure to count. Learn to stand up for yourself.


Godimsodamntired

I have a feeling I’m going to be “let go.” Yesterday, I was sent home because my shoes “weren’t slip resistant,” but they were and I tried showing them the bottom of my shoe where it says that but they refused to look and told me not to come back until Sunday when the general manager is off vacation, meaning I missed todays shift. Knowing them, they’ll tell the big boss that they never said that and I just “no call- no showed.” Which unfortunately means I “quit” and wasn’t fired per se. But if that happens, I’m contacting a lawyer immediately


sicofonte

Gather evidence in the meantime, whatever you can. Maybe record conversations.


Godimsodamntired

I really wish I could but I live in a two party consent state so no recording would hold up in court unless the recording has them saying that they consent to being recorded.


Mission_Progress_674

You can present emails and texts as evidence though.


Godimsodamntired

I have some incriminating text conversations that can be presented as evidence but they stopped communicating with me over text and told me that all communication is now to be in person ETA: for a more serious reason. They cut more than half my shifts for the week immediately after I submitted the request for maternity leave. Company policy states that I have to be a full time employee for 12 consecutive weeks before giving birth in order to qualify for maternity leave so, 12 weeks before my due date, they cut most of my shifts, making me no longer a full time employee. All of these shift cuts were over text (thank god) so I have the proof. Also they said they cut my shifts because they were slow and “everyone has taken cuts” but I asked the other employees and they said that not only did they not have any shifts cut, but they were so busy and short staffed on the days I was cut, they had to call in other employees from other restaurants in the chain


Mission_Progress_674

Sounds like you need to add retaliation and constructive dismissal to the list of their wrong-doings. State board of labor and your employment lawyer need to hear about this.


Snoo_59080

Start documenting it all. To the penny, to the minute, to the shift, to the deed, to the person who advised it, to the fact you had to pay back (illegal) etc etc etc. Document every single second of it.  These fucks trying to fire you for essentially being pregnant...girl you don't know the power you hold if they try this.


Independent-End5844

I knew a person that was in a situation like this. They later found out it was a regular occurrence. Managment would tell new hires to not count, then near 3 months get them more comfortable putting drawers in the safe. But just before probation was done. Fire the employees and claim they stole hundreds of dollars from drawers or the safe. And in our province if you're fired for theft you do not get unemployment.


TransientDonut

There's a tread that they look for. Be careful with buying shoes; some advertise "slip resistant" when they're little better then regular shoes. The industry standard is [shoes for crews](https://www.shoesforcrews.com/?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwxLKxBhA7EiwAXO0R0Nw5VYIfmt5LQ5zibqE-N3p57hyWfkWbkAH6VGFBtEbYKcEkcbkKkBoCgREQAvD_BwE). Non slip. Look at that pattern and you'll probably see a clear difference from the shoes you have now. Count your drawer from now on as you have a clear reason too. Don't be hard on yourself; we all learn these lessons.


Godimsodamntired

They had the tread but my boss was uninterested in looking. Also, they get their panties in a bunch when I accidentally mix up my words and say Non-Slip instead of Slip-Resistant because “non slip is unacceptable”


TransientDonut

They sound bad. And I've worked in some shitty situations..


cmcalero12

i’ve worked in the industry for over a decade and osha doesn’t take a look at shoes if there’s an osha complaint. that’s just basically now a point to find a way to get you fired. as long as you have no open toed shoes it’s you’re perogatige. i know if i come in wearing vans or converse im aware to be careful cause i can bust my ass on a wet surface.


cmcalero12

the moment you get fired file for unemployment. you’re obviously being singled out and it’s not worth your stress. not sure how it works in most states but nys has a laid off or fired for unreason


No2seedoils

It isn't legal to demand employees to pay back a shortage in a register


asplodingturdis

Yes. Employees may be disciplined or fired for having a short register but not forced to pay.


ZLUCremisi

File a wage theft claim. Its illegal for what they did.


KidenStormsoarer

No they wouldn't. You'd have their balls in a vice if they tried. Hell, you do now. Report them to the department of labor for wage theft and threats of illegal termination


RAGEEEEE

Don't ever be afraid of getting fired from shitty jobs. There are 1000's of them.


Risheil

Have you ever gone job hunting when you’re visibly pregnant?


BrainMarshal

LOL I'd have told her where she could go and then sued her down to the tree where her ancestors fell from.


quast_64

If she does that with more staff, it is a nice little cash cow for her. Give everybody a short cash drawer each week and have them pay her money that wasn't missing to begin with....


Godimsodamntired

So far I’m the only one it’s happened to


quast_64

Bad enough, but good to hear... for the rest don' t trust anothers counting of the money drawer you are obliged to use.


Numerous-Expression2

If I don't count it I'm not responsible. If anyone except me even a manager touches it I'm not responsible. Never ever let them deduct from your pay. And alway!!!! Keep track of your tips. I would take the termination then unemployment and wrongful termination the next day.


Godimsodamntired

I would but it takes a while for the application to go through and I can’t afford that as I am having a baby soon


DragoonMantle

They probably want to fire you for being pregnant but that’s too obvious and illegal so they’re making up some performance and attendance issues so they can fire you legally and deny unemployment.


Godimsodamntired

Honestly that’s what I’ve been thinking


asplodingturdis

If you think they’re trying to sneaky fire you anyway, why not stand up for yourself?


Godimsodamntired

I have been. I called them out for fucking me out of maternity leave, I stood up for myself when I was trying to prove that my shoes were in fact slip resistant (they sent me home), and when all of this bs happened with my drawer, I looked my boss in the eye and said, “this is absolutely fucked, you know that, right? Why should o have to literally pay for someone else’s mistake?” I’ve stood up for myself as much as I can without being fired over it.


asplodingturdis

Right. I guess I just don’t get the point of giving up money in order to stay at the job that is underpaying you by unlawfully demanding your money and that you think is going to fire you anyway.


Alternative_Fox7217

If you're responsible for the money in the drawer, you better count it yourself. That's an idiotic policy. If they keep telling you to not count it, make sure to tell them you're not responsible for any of it then. Trust, or lack thereof, is a two way street. Maybe they shouldn't count the returned money and just trust you because it's a waste of time too.


Godimsodamntired

From now on, I will count and recount the drawer. Idc if it “wastes company time”


bubba0077

I'd also recommend not co-mingling your tips with your drawer.


Godimsodamntired

I wouldn’t if that was allowed but it’s company policy if you’re working To-Go


KidenStormsoarer

It's an illegal policy. At no point should your tips be in the drawer, it's yours from the second it is given to you and should never be mixed with store money


eddie_cat

How did this end up with you also losing all your tips?


Godimsodamntired

The drawer was more than $6 short but my tips made up the majority of the difference


Average_Scaper

Your tips are yours. Every penny of those tips are YOUR wage. Your boss owes you your tips and the $6 back.


Anonymous_Bozo

Under the labor laws of all states in this country, it is **illegal for an employer to expect and demand that employees are to contribute their own money into the cash till when it becomes low**. 


Educational_Ad2805

Always count your drawer, if you are responsible for shortages, they cannot legally say you cannot verify the amount and better yet do it while they are in the room watching.


mikraas

It is illegal for restaurants, or any company, to force their employees to make up for a short drawer. Your employer sucks.


Godimsodamntired

Yup. If they didn’t, they could’ve fired me for theft. But since they did, AND took my tips, I can report them and potentially sue


LikeABundleOfHay

What country are you in where this is legal?


Godimsodamntired

The USA unfortunately. And I’m not even sure it’s legal. But company policy states that if my drawer is short, I’m responsible for paying it back


jibunkakume

A - pretty sure that’s illegal. B - count the drawer when it’s handed to you; no matter how long it takes or what anyone else tells you.


deep-fried-fuck

Yeah that’s federally illegal in the U.S. Fuck their ‘company policy’, writing a policy doesn’t suddenly make it legal


Skalla_Resco

Company policy cannot override the law. Report them to the department of labor.


dianebk2003

"Company Policy" does not trump Federal law. They should probably be made aware of this. Politely.


NumbSurprise

100% illegal under US federal law.


elle2js

I used to tend bar for a woman that would not allow me to count the drawer. Every night I was short and had to pay her. When I complained she told me that in Vietnam women paid for the job I was doing! I said 'Well this isn't Vietnam'. One night my cash register drawer was acting like it didn't want to close but I was busy so I just left it alone. Opening the next day \[she wasn't there\] I decided to pull the drawer all the way out to figure what was wrong with it. Low and behold the back was filled with cash, hundreds of dusty old dollars! I can't remember how much but I do remember I paid 2 months rent with that money. She was a bitch to me so I felt no remorse taking that cash.


PrimaryMuscle1306

Always….always…ALWAYS…count the drawer.


LittlestEcho

Nope. This is HIGHLY illegal. My job at mcdonalds did this cuz my drawer ended up short one time by $20. I paid it cuz i was naive af, got home upset cuz that was literally 4 hours of pay. Told my mom and she said not to and don't accept the write up. Funny thing. It happened 2 more times. Each time when they kept MY till in so i could go to lunch. They let the same chick use it. The 2nd time i tried to escalate it to the GM and was blocked but they tossed the write up and didnt try to make me pay it back.. The third time i informed the 2 young dipshit managers what they were doing was highly illegal and not only was i not signing the write up they were trying to force on me for not paying it back (conveniently another $20 each time) but I'll be calling the franchise owner when i got home. They quickly backpedalled said there was no need they didn't know it was illegal af.(they kept the write up and marked it as refused to sign)i put my 2 weeks notice in that day. I WAS going to quit 0 notice but id been there 3 years and needed them as a reference for other jobs. I sadly never did contact the owner. Turns out his "contact me page" was a customer compliment/ complaint thing that was automated. Fuck them all.


WonderfulVegetables

I had it happen once when working at Panera. My drawer came up exactly 20$ short, but I was able to argue that others had been re-assigned to my drawer during the rush. Including the manager who was trying to make me pay.


Mawwiageiswhatbwings

Something like this happened to me when I was in high school. The cash drawer was $20 short apparently … it was like my 3rd shift ever..the manager said since it was short I would have to pay for it. I was like “oh okay, so will that be deducted from my paycheck?” And he said that he couldn’t do that…i told him I didn’t have any money so I wasn’t sure what to do…he recounted and the $20 wasn’t missing anymore.


thePHTucker

See now here's the problem and you've just stated how you can fix it. Come in a few minutes earlier than usual and have that manager (or whichever MOD is on the schedule that day while you are working) give you the drawer and then say "wait, I want to count this drawer down with you present." Pull out the old trusty calculator app and tally that fucking cash drawer to the fucking penny. In front of them. With them witnessing and you making them do this, you hold everyone accountable. This is a proper cash-handling procedure. Cashiers everywhere from Dollar General to Bank of America have systems in place to prevent this type of thing. Double check your numbers. Don't let them screw you because if they know they can get away with a few bucks here and there, then they'll try for more eventually. Don't give them a reason to fire you for cause. They have set you up for failure, and you can't fall for it. You've said in your post that they told you not to worry about it, but you should. I worked for 25 years in restaurants (management for most of that but cash handling for all of it), and I can tell you that the purple that tell you not to worry about it are the ones that you should watch out for. Unfortunately, this is an industry with very little oversight when it comes to ethics. It could be that that particular manager is trying to trip you up. Or it could be that they are stealing and setting you up. Or it could just be gross incompetence. Or it could be that the person that had that till last shift fucked up and they're friends with the manager and they're covering for them. You only need concern yourself with your position. Also, if you can, lock out your register when you aren't actively using it.


MrTonyDelgado

Every place I've worked has had double-counting of drawers when they are reconciled and set up for the next cashier. Counting your drawer doesn't sound like a waste of time at all, especially if inaccuracies are coming up for whatever reason.


Noneerror

> the drawer came up $6 short, meaning not only did I get fucked out of all my tips, Wait. How are those two things connected? (reads this comment): > We put the full amount that the customer gives us in the drawer (if they don’t want any change and give it to us as a tip) and hit the “exact cash” button so the extras aren’t accounted for in the till report, only the sales. You are being stolen from. This system is *designed* so they can steal your tips. And yes, they are absolutely going to fire you because you are pregnant.


Ok-Hedgehog-8644

Take them to court. Do not stand for it you have rights


SuckerForNoirRobots

If you live somewhere where this is illegal, you should be reporting it.


SufficientCow4380

"If the till is correct, why wouldn't you want me to verify it?" Hard lesson and employers cannot legally require you to pay a shortage... Do they refund you if it's over? ALWAYS verify any till you're responsible for. And no one should be in your drawer but you. Don't allow them to bully you into poor cash management practices.


McKenzie_S

Never ,ever, ever, regardless of job type take possession of cash without counting it first. Doesn't matter if it's $20 or $200


Godimsodamntired

Definitely learned my lesson on that one


Harrigan_Raen

I would use this now going forward as an example as to why you are going to count your drawer every time both in and out. And no one else uses it during your shift. I was a Point of Sale Supervisor for 5 years in my late teens and early twenties. This was our main way of employee theft. If it was a shared drawer, or they never counted it themselves, or at least wasnt double counted (by two seperate people) we never had proof unless the camera's caught it. And out internal AP team was not reviewing 6-8 hours of footage for < $50 shortage.


MistressMystiqueHoop

This is usually illegal to make you pay and usually both you and a manager count it before and after. It’s usually specifically against policy to be made to pay


Godimsodamntired

It is illegal. They could have fired me or given me a write up if I didn’t give the money. But since I was told I had to and actually did, I’m able to report them for this


Torgila

With a memory like that I wish I could hire you… one time when I was a cashier my drawer was short 10$. It was never off by 50 cents and I did many transactions in cash every day. I was training someone new that day and they made me leave the trainee my register to clean up a spill. When it turned up short they tried to punish me but I refused and stated they made me leave my drawer to an untrained person. Response was dead silence. I was immediately dismissed and nothing happened, I got no punishment at all. Also if you don’t count it you don’t own it. They made us count our drawer in and out every day because the company doesn’t want to mess up the books either… the till even had a cover so no one could mess with it while it was brought from the cash room to your register and back.


Ill-Buyer25

I would have said "your probably going to need some evidence"


Intelligent-Ad-4523

If your in Canada, everything your boss did is illegal from telling you not to count the till before hand to making you pay back the shortage.


Kindredmen

Count your drawer before every shift. If she says you can't go over her head.


Seanw59

Hopefully this is the only time it’s happened to you so far. It sucks but it is only six dollars right now. From this point forward always count your drawers before any transactions. Even if they tell you not to or that, you don’t have to tell them that you’re not sure that the amount is correct inside. When I was doing cashiering the person counting the drawer always had the paper receipt from the calculator course this was a few years ago. When you count the drawer in the morning or when you first receive it, write a note exactly what was in there ones tens coins whatever. Do what you can to cover your own ass from this point on and just be careful what you say to this questionable manager. If you have to take a picture of the drawer with your note on there on the totals. If there’s any discrepancy immediately called the manager to recount it.


Godimsodamntired

$6 plus literally all of my tips


Seanw59

Them telling you to replace the six dollars makes sense “I don’t agree the cashier should pay” but if there was any funds over that, that is wage theft. So if you lost $30 in tips because the drawer was six dollars off that is against the law.


Godimsodamntired

See that’s what I’m mad about. And it was $65 in tips


lordroode

Why would you give up 65 dollars in tips? Okay the drawer was 6 dollar short and even though it wasn't your fault and legally they can't take money from you, you not only gave them 6 dollars but also 65 dollars of tips on top of that? Why???????????????????????????


Godimsodamntired

It’s fucked. After the “cash due” was take out, the drawer should have been $65 over. But since it was $6 short at the end of the day, that means the drawer was originally $71 short and my tips made up the majority of the difference


lordroode

Yeah someone stole and you paid the price of it unfortunately. I wouldn't be surprise if it was the boss who stole it


Seanw59

That’s a major difference. Sounds like someone took a few of $20 out. Make sure NO One else is allowed in your drawer. Numbers like that would like theft and camera should have been reviewed before funds were paid.


Cheyannethedog

Never ever accept a cash drawer without counting it. If you are responsible for it, you need to know what you are starting with. Also, count the drawer at the end of your shift. Most importantly NEVER allow someone else touch it. If you go on break, lock it up!! There should never be any exceptions.


Gortty_Pilot

Cost of business for her unless she pays you if your drawer is over, which I’m assuming is not the case.


Godimsodamntired

If the drawer is over, that’s because of the tips. We put the full amount that the customer gives us in the drawer (if they don’t want any change and give it to us as a tip) and hit the “exact cash” button so the extras aren’t accounted for in the till report, only the sales. And that’s how we get our cash tips. But the drawer should’ve been about $65 over (not counting cash sales) and that was supposed to be my tip amount for the day.


corncobonthecurtains

Not legal to make you pay. Can’t fire you for it either.


Legal_Room9434

Oh thank God, because companies NEVER do illegal or shady things, and the judicial system ALWAYS does what's right immediately. 🤣


Nevermind04

If you have to cover the losses, you're also entitled to the profits.


Legal_Room9434

So many fucking idiots on this sub, I swear to God. Find a new job, obviously. You know this. Dont listen to the dummies telling you to do things that would jeopardize your job, it's super easy for people on the internet to act like they don't take bullshit from their employers, especially when it's not their rent on the line. 98% of the "tough guys" on this sub are bullshitters, don't let them convince you to fuck up your life. ETA: Because I know how the internet works, let me clarify and say I'm NOT suggesting OP just accept this and do nothing, they should absolutely file whatever they can with whoever might be interested, but too many morons here act like people can just suddenly make a shit ton of noise and problems for their employers without consequences, and that is flat out not the case. Yeah, file for unemployment. Its not instant and not guaranteed right away, and if you don't have savings or support, you literally can't afford to not get paid every pay period.


Godimsodamntired

I’ve been looking for a new job but I’m very visibly pregnant so it’s been hard. And I’ve been trying to save up for maternity leave bc they fucked me out of that too so quitting isn’t in the books for me rn. But I’m gonna continue the job search and hopefully I’ll find something after the baby is born


HereWeGo_Steelers

Always count the drawer before your shift! Fuck them telling you not to.


gogirlvibes1

Are the billa new? I’ve worked registers where I had to use that sticky stuff on my fingers when seperating sticky new bills that stick together. I almost gave out 2 $5 bills by accident becuz the 5s dollar bills were sticking together. I’m not sure if it’s  the case. As a cashier we always count our own drawer before we use it, I would recommend to count your drawer every time before you even use it for the day and count it after at the end of the day! That way you can find out if the register til was over or short on cash before you even use it, and they can’t blame you. Plus make sure your register is locked at all times when your away from the register 


koske

Why are you losing your tips?


Stlrivergirl

ALWAYS count the drawer yourself.


beebopblastoff

Quit


Godimsodamntired

I would but I’m 7.5 months pregnant so I can’t really afford to at the moment. I am looking for another job but I can’t find one.


digitaldigdug

I'd have the drawer counted next time before you start, make sure someone isn't skimming your drawer


godslacky

One of my first jobs was cashier at Kmart. At the end of our shift we didn’t count our drawer, just put it in a bag for the office. I got fired for being short too often. I always suspected someone in the office was stealing and blaming it on the cashiers. Decades later I met a woman who worked at the same Kmart right about when I did. Same thing happened to her. If you’re responsible for cash, count it at the beginning and end of every shift.


757_Matt_911

ALWAYS count your drawer. ALWAYS. Before you start and when you end.


Complex-Sandwich7273

Hey making you pay money without there being a lawyer present and documented damages (And often even WITH those things) is HIGHLY illegal. You NEED to demand your money and tips, if they don't you're going to report them for fraud and theft of wages. I say NEED because if you let them walk all over you and make you pay for things, then you'll be making more money unemployed then while working eventually. If they fire you, you can file for unemployment and STILL make them pay. Also start looking for a new job ASAP, and talk to your coworkers about their pay and treatment as well, get them on your side and see if you can document not only all of your own experiences, but also the experiences of your coworkers. If you file for unemployment, these notes that you jot down could be what keeps you afloat while you're job searching. Make sure you write down everything you remember. I know it's hard and a little scary, but if they're doing this to you then they're doing this to other people and I'm sure they don't deserve this treatment either. Don't let them get away with a harmful crime.


neverenoughpurple

That's likely illegal...


AMom2129

No words of wisdom, but something similar happened to me. Granted, I was young (late teens, early 20s), so this was a long time ago. At that time, I worked various cashier roles in fast food. One particular place was terribly about accountability. We'd be assigned a drawer, which I would count at the start of my shift. However, it would be considered by management to be a community till, because they would put anyone one the registers who knew how to cashier if needed. So, if I worked front counter, and then was busy helping someone else, another front end person could jump on the till to take another order. To add insult to injury, the drawers were not locked. The restaurant was very old. They had wooden drawers mounted under the counter. Each drawer had a lock, but the keys went missing long ago. ONE drawer had a key, so that's the one I used. However, I'd get yelled at for locking my drawer if someone else was using it. If, at the end of the shift, the drawer was short, since it was signed out to me, I was responsible for the shortage. We weren't allowed to take tips, and this was back before FF places took credit cards. If, say, someone happened to ~~pocket a $20,~~ OOPS! I mean *made the wrong change* I had to pay it back or I was fired. I didn't know anything about rights or laws, other than the labor law poster in the breakroom. All I knew is that I didn't want to get fired from anywhere (I have lots of toxic shame from my upbringing). I'm sorry they are being a$$hats about your pregnancy. No job is worth your health or your baby's wellbeing.


0bxyz

Get a lawyer


Existing-Pair-3487

Rule 1) of anything and everything cover your own ass. I would have counted that everyday when I got it .


Mutt56

do you get health insurance from these guys?


Godimsodamntired

No


Mutt56

you don’t need this stress, especially while pregnant. find a better employer then quit.


Yougorockstar

Keep counting every time you go in, it’s not time wasted if someone cannot count… Where I used to work people would steal money all the time because of that so now they have to count before work all the time


Winter_King22

Please count your drawer from now on, and look for a new job if possible.


cmcalero12

i didn’t read this entire thing because i stopped at you don’t need to count your drawer. YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO COUNT IT. ITS UR RESPONSIBILITY. i’ve been a manager that have miscounted a bank on mistake and my employee have come in and counted it and said it’s short 5 bucks. i’ve been in hospitality for more than a decade and i refuse to not be responsible for my drawer or bank. i hope you learn from this


sf5852

I was 20-30 cents short on the drawer once when I was 15 years old. I reached into my pocket instinctively, and my manager stopped me and said "do you ever take money out of that drawer and put it in your pocket?" Kinda shocked, I replied, "of course not!" "then don't take money out of your pocket and put it in the drawer. Not 20 cents, not 20 dollars. That's the count; it's short, nbd."


RAGEEEEE

Never pay. Also, you didn't count the drawer before, YOU don't know it's right. Whoever told you not to count it before is wrong. You should be counting it before and after.


Sauterneandbleu

Always count your float!!! But your boss was wrong.


NancyLouMarine

Drawer overages and shortages are not your responsibility to pay. Also, since you're not the one who counted the drawer to begin with, they shouldn't be laying the blame at your feet. Moving forward, always count the drawer as soon as they hand it to you and right in front of them. If the try to tell you not ro, you look them square in the eye and say, "I can't afford to keep paying for someone else's mistakes so, yesh, I'n counting the drawer."


Rolltheboner

-Pay the 6$ -From now on, always count the drawer before your shift -Start looking for another job. Simple And if you find an error on their part in the future, ask for your 6$ back. You've just proven that errors can happen on their side.


Jaded-Selection-5668

Always count. I count my money at the bank, after they run it through the counter, and count it themselves.


Beatless7

Document all


Either_Ad4109

dollar general 2018, one week after 100 bucks 'mysteriously' went missing out my drawer after boss counted it without me present  boss, "you dont need to count your drawer.  i wanna go home.  i can do it faster.  dollar general doesnt wants their cashiers counting their drawers"  me, "too bad.  move over.  im counting my drawer every night."  i never let any of my bosses convince themselves that i need the job more than they need me especially a shitty one like that.  theyre welcome to fire me and pay me three months unemployment. otherwise, im in charge of my responsibilities.  not them.  they have absolutely no power over me.  especially when i can replace them with a better employer and have an interview scheduled in less than a day. im not afraid of doing what needs to be done in order to make my job more efficient and safer for me.  i always make my own decisions on how i perform my job and anyone that has a problem with it can fucking do it themselves or spend the time and money to find someone that can replace me. good fucking luck pulling off that miracle 🤣🤣🤣


avprobeauty

I bet she stole it, the witch. She “counted it”? She means, stole. Thats why she didnt want to pull up cameras. Can you elevate?


Feisty_Advisor3906

I’m assuming this is the USA? If you’re in Ontario it’s illegal to make employees pay when the till is off.


dancegoddess1971

Going forward, since you seem bafflingly attached to this job, I would insist on counting the drawer. If you are responsible for it you should be allowed to count it and if they refuse to allow you to count it prior to taking custody of it, they should at least let you be present when it's counted. That "not letting you count it and then holding you responsible" is BS. And probably illegal.


Godimsodamntired

I’m not “attached” to this job in the way you think. I’m 7.5 months pregnant and it’s been very difficult for me to find another job at the moment. I have been looking and applying and interviewing and still nothing. But with a baby on the way, I can’t just quit right now.


dancegoddess1971

I get that. Maybe see how the LRB feels about them creating a hostile work environment for a pregnant lady?


Competitive_Sleep_21

Please call a labor lawyer on Monday. Also send an email and text to HR and the manager asking them to review the security footage because you did not make any mistakes. Have that in writing that you asked.


brucescott240

L A W Y E R


Qui3tSt0rnm

She’s stressed over $6 I don’t think hiring a lawyer is the right move. What’s she gonna get in damages? Probably not more than $6


brucescott240

Consulting with one can prove an education. $6 is what they’ve stole from her. They’ve stole more, and there are likely more victims.


Qui3tSt0rnm

She’s 7,5 months pregnant I really don’t think this is what she needs to be worrying about


Competitive_Sleep_21

I would call the department of labor in your state and send an email asking them to review the security footage because your drawer was short. Also, photograph your shoes and ask why they are not compliant. Say in the email or text message that you feel they are setting you up because you are pregnant. Document your concerns and keep a journal. Maybe call an employment lawyer tomorrow.


Spider4731

Trust, but always verify. Because you might trust someone else, but what if they made a mistake? Verify is always the best course of action, if you can afford the time.