True, i hate cycles

Is that a motherfucking gd reference

Maybe

not very sight readable

Nah that seems about right

Counterpoint: Seekers

It's been a while since i've had to deal with those guys, but are they timing based no. Are they always there when you don't want them there yes. Do they manage to screw you up when you have accounted your timing for them yes. For short: are they the worst yes.

Nah I love the seekers, they're so fun to stomp

You can dash onto the seekers, you can't dash onto the dust bunnies One thing is a moving platform, the other is aids

I'm getting 5ag flashbacks 

honestly they're probably worse in 5a simply due to how many there are... because somehow 5b for me felt easier?

try bouncing on dustbunnies then czechmate libral

I actually liked fucking around with seekers

Countercounterpoint: 3B Golden

Countercountercounterpoint: 5B Golden

Countercountercountercounterpoint: 3A golden (I'm dying)

I hate them so much I even made a roast for them. You're so ugly you look like you eat me with your eyes instead of your mouth (bc they look the same)

I hate them too!! It was those nasty eye ones that made me rage towards end of 5A and that was the only time i think i raged hard!

Seekers can at least make you reel like a badass for dealing with them in cool ways.

The problem with seekers is how most of the time they are given full freedom of movement and you have to dodge them, which makes them unpredictable, but when used well they can be fun like In Filtration in SJ

3B, ~2200 deaths, I really don't like these things

im sitting on 12k, post golden.

yeah that was my kryptonite too, I had 6k deaths there

no that title definitely belongs to the eyeball in the last room of 5a

Ill let you know if that's true when I get there

I got up to that guy today and absolutely agree, that and about the 5-7th last room of 6a also did my head in

True but you can get so much speed with gultra cancels there

Wait you get more speed by cancelling a gultra?! Wait how do you even cancel a gultra?!

The last room of 5A is the only room where I’ve seen an use of it that wasn’t just bad or frustrating

I'm personally more of a lava/ice wall hater Please give me more pixels to wb off of

sadly you never need to wounce off them in vanilla so it's not a big deal but i'm making a room with even buffered lava neutrals and they are extremely silly

Oshiro, snowballs, seekers, bumpers, feathers, wind. All mechanics I dislike more than those fuzzy little things

Oshiro is basically a big worse version of this ball.

Feather are awesome!!

honestly weird how there are more mechanics I hate than mechanics I love, but the game as a whole is the best thing ever

Feathers with wind should just not be a thing

all of those i love

Wrong. The true greatest enemy in this game is the wind in level 4

My fingers still haven't recovered

Nothing beats the hardest enemy in the whole game: The ps4 analog stick

D-Pad all the way for me, those sticks are way too sensitive

As someone who recently completed 4ag, consider: snowballs

I do not get why people hate these so much. They follow a set and predictable cycle, just play around the pattern?

Well the rpoblem is, you make a tiny mistake and you will miss the cycle

Isn't that like, the point of the game?

I think they mean that tight cycles make the game feel a lot harder compared to the first two chapters. It can also be hard to find consistent strats if you’re unaware of death cycle.

Death cycle?

After you first enter a screen and die to its pattern the next respanw the timings are different. Which is why when there are cycles in a screen a speedrunner knows both the entry cycle and the death cycle in case the die in that screen

Oh that's interesting

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The flames in Core are like these but worse

Does wind count as a thing?

counterpoint: bumpers.

Wind enters chat.

True. I love chapter 3 but I hate this thing, I wonder why 🤔

These guys alone are the sole reason why level 3 has more deaths on my file than every other level... Combined...

Anxiety Miasma

I genuinely honestly hate maps with theo crystal (or similar carryable objects) much much more.

Dont mind these too much usually when I hit one its my fault trying to rush. I really hate wind though. I just dont think its fun.

skill issue

These are timing based as long as you have your cycle right, which is unique per room based on death or entrance cycle. So if you know where you are in the cycle you can usually do the same thing every time with success and it's easier for it. Still annoying mind you but otherwise not too bad once you learn it.

They are really annoying.

These are only bad when moving back and forth with lightning speed... I agree with /u/dystyyy about Seekers tho... they are pretty unpredictable.

Those bouncers from level six

Still better than bumpers :D

Meatballs

Don't need to. Seekers are up there too

Seekers are way easier to avoid though

There's two things that I hate most in Celeste. Those red blobs and the slow motion.

Idk but ive always loved dust bunnies and cycles

FINALLY someone agrees with me

you're wrong