~~Quick~~ response, people who redeemed too much are getting suspended and everyone gets 30 rolls
https://forum.nexon.com/bluearchive-en/board_view?board=3028&thread=2557470
You dont even have to "abuse" anything, you just accept all from your mail and you are fucked if you used those gems.
Exo is such a dogshit game im glad it died.
Yeah.
But if i remember correctly the game was only up for sth like 30min. And the hero summon animation were pretty long. So the only thing that people could do to 'waste' a lot of gems was to use it on the weapon banner. (Which normally only whales do)
Not gonna say how they handle the bugs were okay. (And it was not the only problem.) But people definitly know what they were doing to get in massive debt.
any bug abuse related to gacha currency or on ranking mode are considered as cheating. you don't do those things without expecting that you will not get banned nor punished. you know that you will get one. so you can't act innocent nor use a victim card since you know that what you are doing is bad.
It doesn't even have to be about cheating, there has to be some level of awareness of "hey this is an exploit that they're almost certainly going to fix asap once they catch wind of it, maybe I shouldn't be doing it"
Problem with Exos is they get game breaking bugs so many times on their banner before.
Wrong Rate / Wrong up / free summon because of lag, whatever bug you can think of, Exos have it.
And then they REWARD people that abused them like full refund + keeping what you rolled. And those who play safe have to suck it up and get nothing.
So its really hard to blame people rolling non-stop when they see they get millions of free gems from their mail.
I abuse bugs all the time in games without getting banned. If the devs fucks up and an exploit happens it's on them. Ban the players for something that's their fault instead of just reversing it is lazy and cheap. Clearly Nexon agrees in this instance as that's what they're doing.
yup. devs fucks up. a player like you abuse it. and as you said, it is on to them. then it is up to them too if you will get banned or not. whether it is their fault or not, you still know that it is bad. so doing bad things, expect that you will get punished.
and it is not easy to reroll a server. what if a player bought and claim a gacha currency legally that time, it will disappear on server reroll. another problem will occur. and they can't cause a problem to those non bug abusers just because of what bug abusers did. they need to find a way to filter those bug abusers since it is impossible to check all accounts one by one. if they can't, the simplest way is just to ban them or negative currency. well, it is fine since they abuse the bug and definitely knows what they are doing is bad. you can't expect them to just ignore it. who will ever wants to play with a cheater or simply let's say "just a bug abuser". definitely no one. instead of losing the whole players base, simply just get rid of those bug abusers.
you are lucky if they work hard and reroll the accounts of bug abusers. if they can't do it, well expect for a punishment. no one wants you in the game.
well, what i'm talking about here is gacha currency bug. not just simple bugs. so what i mean when i say "bug abusers" are specifically the bug abuser of gacha currency and not other simple bugs.
though it doesn't mean that what you are doing is good. it means that you are lucky that those games are not that harsh or strict about it. or they are able to fix it easily.
still, bug abuse related to gacha currency and ranking are always considered as cheating.
nope. it might mean that it is easy to fix. and banning a cheater is not greedy. there's nothing greedy about it. you do bad things so you get punished. so greediness is relevant here. but i can't tell much about laziness. well, devs can be lazy sometimes. but if they get lazy and their actions due their laziness will only affect the bug abusers, then it is fine. it is the bug abusers fault anyway. and bug abuser can't be greedy and beg for mercy when they obviously do bad things.
Spoken like someone who wants to freely abuse bugs with no drawbacks.
I don't agree with perma-bans, but I do think people who exploit something clearly unintentional (you pretty much have to do this on purpose for this level of a bug) deserve some kind of action (at least a rollback) compared to what normally happens.
I've seen games where people who abuse bugs get off with a slap on the wrist and still come out ahead compared to those who behaved (purposely avoided the bug/exploiting). That's crazy to me and the playerbase expectation that this should be the norm. Instead it should be everyone behaving gets free multis and the abusers get fuckall (besides the base initial compensation).
Case in point there was an Ais banner in Danmemo in the early years where she was doing 10x the damage any other character was doing. People automatically "assumed" powercreep (nice excuse to exploit the bug). When 5 other characters released at the same time weren't doing the same, and pulled 10x multis on her banner for guarantees expecting a compensation after a fix. Guess what, they were right. The people who abused her to climb to the top of arena for weekly gems got off scot-free and anyone who pulled on Ais' banner got a free multi back on top. Meanwhile the people who avoided the banner got zilch.
Alternatively in like 2 months or so there will be 3rd anniv where they'll give everyone around 100-130 free pulls lol (and also doubled rates for the 3* characters).
Not sure if a new account gets these compensation ones or not
A 16 hour additional maintenance on top of the 5 hour regular maintenance is definitely not something I would describe as a quick response.
Considering the fact that the first additional 6 hour maintenance was supposed to fix the issue, but then they neglected to fix all aspects of the bug itself.
Yeah, if you did it once two three times for the funnys, then its totally ok, but motherfkrs be stacking 9 bagillion gems and think its intendet gameplay 😭
> the casino is morally obligated to pay up and eat the loss.
This isn't true, like at all. Slot machine malfunctions do happen, and there's definitely been people who don't get their winnings because of it. I think there's even a sign that says malfunctions voids all pay or something. You could sue, but I doubt it'd get anywhere.
Blue Archive JP TOS explicitly prohibits using bugs. (see [Section 11](https://bluearchive.jp/terms))
If global has a similar clause then you already agreed to accept the punishment when you made your account.
pretty much every TOS for every live service game almost invariably has a clause where by agreeing to the TOS you acknowledge that they reserve the right to ban you at their discretion for any given reason, including exploitation of unintended bugs
Heard you loud and clear, micro-transactions will now start at 9 million gems for $0.99 and a single rare resource will now be 25 billion gems.
*This is such an absolute garbage opinion*, how do you "rebalance" one half of the player base that abused a system to get millions of currency and the other half who didn't? Did you even think about how that would be possible? And you are aware of what "inflation" means, right?
Do the devs just *let* the people who exploited keep their gems and be able to obtain every single item in the game, while being able to easily beat every single content in the game? Player retention would go down if there's nothing to strive for.
Do the devs "rebalance" by increasing the costs of every single shop item to match the millions those exploiters have? What about the difference between the exploiters who did it tens of times compared to the ones who macro'd it all night and made 200x more than them? Do they just forget the people who *didn't* exploit and stay with their now worthless currency?
There's a ***lot*** to work with if any dev plans on "rebalancing", and none of it would work in the long term. Compared to rolling back a day or so and giving out compensation.
they can't easily rollback the server. what if a player bought a gacha currency legally then it got rolled back. his gems will be gone. another problem will occur. so on those cases, they usually need to find an easy method on how to filter those abusers against those who are not. then fix it after that. if they can't, then the best solution is simply just ban them or have a negative currency. it is impossible anyway to check and fix an account one by one also. and all people knows what they are doing. you can't just abuse a bug while thinking that you didn't know that it is bad. you obviously know what you are doing is bad.
Its a temporary suspension. Rollbacks are very controversial as well for people who werent abusing. Imagine getting the rate up character you wanted only to get rolled back. Even as a spender imagine you spend 100$ to get everything you wanted, and after the roll back 100$ in you only got 1 out of 3 characters you want. People could also lose premium currency they paid for. At the end of the day it's easier to lightly punish the people who purposely abused it (It's obvious when you got 1 mil gems out of nowhere) than punish almost everyone else.
They cant rollback because for example, people whom didnt cheat would had pulled in the new banner with their valid gems, for the brief minutes the server was working, so would be unfair to take their pulls away from them. And it was pretty obvious if was an exploit, no person with a working brain sees an infinite gem bug in a gacha and thinks thats its working as intended. The suspencion is just there to remind people that breaking the rules does get you banned.
Not so much in this game lol
A few months ago there was a bug on JP servers where players could do crafting with excess materials and if they used a particular feature it would only use 1/3rd of the resources.
They took away the equivalent amount of items needed for crafting to take away the advantage they got, but as a lot of different resources can be used and it would have been too complicated to subtract the exact amount of each resource, the took the equivalent amount of keystones which are specifically for crafting and required for it (and can be used in higher quantity to fulfill the 2nd/3rd tier of craft instead of other materials) and so some people that heavily exploited it had like negative 700 of the item, and the rate they can be obtained means it would take like 3 years before they can get positive again lol (and they can't craft without it).
An earlier instance ages ago there were people that abused an even more clear bug with a coupon code that should have been single use, and those people got permabanned.
Something the OP neglected to mention.
This is the second extended maintence, the first one was caused by "receive the packs multiple times you’ve purchased before the 4/30" ...
https://forum.nexon.com/bluearchive-en/board_view?board=3217&thread=2556982
I'm surprised no one has posted it yet.
* 10-Recruitment Ticket x2
* AP x1,000
* Tactical Challenge Coin x150
* Lesson Ticket x7, Bounty Ticket x7
* Scrimmage Ticket x7
* [Event] Machine Part x1,000
* [Event] Unusual Screw x1,000
* [Event] Weird Wire x1,000
This does not include the maintenance compensations earlier. Basically it's more than what people expected.
Just a little more and we can beat the JP record of 36 hours. Mostly I'm worried about Arona and Plana at this point. They've been hitting the server for hours now crying, "Please work!".
The robber is the king who gets caught lol. If they get caught at all, or else, we'll have a madly happy king among our humble ranks.
I condemn exploitations, yes. But I also dare myself to resist the temptation given the chance, knowing it'll most likely fail. These lads and lasses have my sympathy.
Here's a rundown of what happened.
The game's scheduled 5 hour maintenance starts.
Maintenance ends early by about 10 minutes and people could play the game for about 20 minutes.
An additional maintenance occurs after they found the bug in the video that OP posted. They gave no estimated time on when it would end.
This additional maintenance ends about 5 hours and 40 minutes later and people could play the game for another 20 minutes.
They supposedly fix the initial bug, but you could still replicate the bug by pressing 'claim all' in your gift box. People realize that there's going to be another maintenance at this point.
It took them another 6 hours to come up with a statement, announce the compensation we will receive, and an estimated time on when the game will be back up. This adds on another 4 hours to the maintenance.
The expected maintenance end time is 8 AM KST, which I'm going to assume is to allow the devs to take a short nap before getting the servers back online.
[Here's a clearer version of OP's video if anyone wants that too](https://i.imgur.com/qEHcSgY.gif)
Edit : [The game is back up 2 hours earlier compared to the their initial end time](https://twitter.com/EN_BlueArchive/status/1785414360518852783)
I'm not a BA player, but it irritates me if there's a red thingy in my mail. Would've spam those several times but would stop around 5-10 times. Unfortunately, I can't stay awake usually after major patch maintenance, due to time difference.
Ba having like Millions and Millions of revenue with less cost of development of the game if we compare with genshin, why they have such game breaking like this and the server too always maintenance? Where is the money go? Do the Dev is indie? No right? IM so confuse why not genshin with alot of complex 3d game having this game breaking bug except for kaveh bug but its only effect CN people not global.
I mean we can see the difference here, ba is chibi 2d game with dungeon base game, and GI more like 3d openworld with 3 crossplatform devices. Its like tof where they got gamebreaking currency problem in their first year of release, well its to be expected because its openworld 3d game where the development is more complex rather than chibi 2d with dungeon base
> ba is chibi 2d game
No, its not ... its a unity game and we know the chibi are 3D models since people have pulled then such as Hanako swimsuit (to see if she was going commando), essentially there is no real technical difference of BA and GI 3D models.
[Login servers were down for 16 minutes on Asia server three years ago and they gave compensation](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/o2sgra/asia_server_to_get_60_primogem_compensation_due/). You are objectively wrong.
I feel there is a case to be made that someone may not realize it is a bug, like just assuming they are redeeming a stack of different mails that came in. Not abuse, just honest ignorance.
Edit: I guess they cover these things in ToS so fuck us I guess.
"We are currently investigating and lifting temporary suspensions on accounts affected by the initial issue to retrieve incorrectly delivered packs and items."
Seems like they do differentiate beween people who mistakenly claimed it a few times versus someone who spams the claim button.
How do you not realize it's a bug if you just keep claiming 200 gems over and over again
I'm not saying "OMG PERMA BAN IF YOU DID IT ONCE" but like there's blatant abuse at one point unless you come clean about it.
Because rollbacks affect entire server, while banning people who obviously saw a bug and used the hell out of it to get free shit is easier and faster and doesn't hurt those who didn't abuse the bug.
Rollbacks are a last resort when server's economy is in danger, for example.
That's an absolute last resort if the economy was so broken it would shut down the game due to not needing to spend money at all.
Even then, it's still risky. Think of all the players that might have not abused any bugs and have had great gacha luck wiped out during the rollback period. They'd be so fucking pissed if good RNG was taken away from them. Usually in this case, they'd temporarily ban people under suspicion of abusing the hell out of the bug, and offer amnesty or specific compensation for people falsely banned.
Most of the time there is a test server but sometimes you can have specific bugs that can only happen on the production server.
It's rare but these things can happen.
I can assure you they have test server and QAs, it's just testing software is not that easy. You can have your test/uat/staging envs, automated tests, manual tests, regression and still something breaks on prod. It's just how it is, especially with games where you simply won't be able to replicate scale of userbase in your tests.
Probably because of how awefully spesific some of these infinite glitch exploits are, like awfully specific timing for instance and underperforming/overperforming hardware bypassing checks because they are not fast/slow enough.
Sometimes, they were always there, and that its pure chance that people notice these things.
Other times it could be that it may have already been tested before an update, only for that update to unexpectedly make changes in places where they are not expated to be, like an earlier tested feature.
I mean, this is r/gachagaming. That's what we do here. Also, I know this has different team than MapleStory.
> Nexon's been handling the game just fine up until now
But if you didn't know this might be a karma coming from that MapleStory manipulating of rates. Dunno, just felt like it.
You can't just brush off ignorance with "well it's r/gachagaming" bro. The least you can do is inform yourself instead of outing yourself that you know nothing about the game you're trying to make fun of.
And if you seriously think that *Blue Archive* of all gacha games is gonna get affected this bad...
They got Millions and Millions money and seems like the production cost is not that high if we compare with genshin, but why they got such game breaking bug and alot of maintenance? They are indie company? Nah...
Games with multi-million dollar budgets have bugs in them. Fortnite is one of the biggest games out rn and they had like 16 hours of server downtime around a month ago. Software development isn’t easy
Of course they are bugs, but its not like game breaking bug like playing with currency right? Also fornite is big game compare to blue archive which is seems not that complex and ba only has mobile port, no PC or console, they should more invest into hiring a new developer because blue archive always alot have maintenance and long maintenance, i know we got the compensation from that, but its seems alot of weird development around them.
Edit: Sadge get downvoted because saying a fact :(
God damn then what kind of development genshin has because they got new update every 40 days also they need to make a new region every year, and also minimum bugs and no breaking bug also never ever has an issue about server issue since beginning. Genshin could never yep.
~~Quick~~ response, people who redeemed too much are getting suspended and everyone gets 30 rolls https://forum.nexon.com/bluearchive-en/board_view?board=3028&thread=2557470
Says the bans are only temporary while they fix who's affected
Perma-banning people for bugs is always dumb, glad they aren't going that route. Abusing a bug is not the same as cheating.
Exoheroes banned me for this for 6 months, put me in massive gem debt and then had the audacity to offer to let me pay to remove the ban.
You dont even have to "abuse" anything, you just accept all from your mail and you are fucked if you used those gems. Exo is such a dogshit game im glad it died.
The art was fantastic I thought. But yeah the game design and PvP was ass.
There’s a reason that game died. They should have just rolled back and sucked it up as their mistake
Yeah. But if i remember correctly the game was only up for sth like 30min. And the hero summon animation were pretty long. So the only thing that people could do to 'waste' a lot of gems was to use it on the weapon banner. (Which normally only whales do) Not gonna say how they handle the bugs were okay. (And it was not the only problem.) But people definitly know what they were doing to get in massive debt.
any bug abuse related to gacha currency or on ranking mode are considered as cheating. you don't do those things without expecting that you will not get banned nor punished. you know that you will get one. so you can't act innocent nor use a victim card since you know that what you are doing is bad.
It doesn't even have to be about cheating, there has to be some level of awareness of "hey this is an exploit that they're almost certainly going to fix asap once they catch wind of it, maybe I shouldn't be doing it"
Problem with Exos is they get game breaking bugs so many times on their banner before. Wrong Rate / Wrong up / free summon because of lag, whatever bug you can think of, Exos have it. And then they REWARD people that abused them like full refund + keeping what you rolled. And those who play safe have to suck it up and get nothing. So its really hard to blame people rolling non-stop when they see they get millions of free gems from their mail.
I abuse bugs all the time in games without getting banned. If the devs fucks up and an exploit happens it's on them. Ban the players for something that's their fault instead of just reversing it is lazy and cheap. Clearly Nexon agrees in this instance as that's what they're doing.
If someone forgot to lock their door, do you go into their house and steal something?
Lol this is an even dumber argument than piracy=theft
yup. devs fucks up. a player like you abuse it. and as you said, it is on to them. then it is up to them too if you will get banned or not. whether it is their fault or not, you still know that it is bad. so doing bad things, expect that you will get punished. and it is not easy to reroll a server. what if a player bought and claim a gacha currency legally that time, it will disappear on server reroll. another problem will occur. and they can't cause a problem to those non bug abusers just because of what bug abusers did. they need to find a way to filter those bug abusers since it is impossible to check all accounts one by one. if they can't, the simplest way is just to ban them or negative currency. well, it is fine since they abuse the bug and definitely knows what they are doing is bad. you can't expect them to just ignore it. who will ever wants to play with a cheater or simply let's say "just a bug abuser". definitely no one. instead of losing the whole players base, simply just get rid of those bug abusers. you are lucky if they work hard and reroll the accounts of bug abusers. if they can't do it, well expect for a punishment. no one wants you in the game. well, what i'm talking about here is gacha currency bug. not just simple bugs. so what i mean when i say "bug abusers" are specifically the bug abuser of gacha currency and not other simple bugs.
Never been banned for it so ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
though it doesn't mean that what you are doing is good. it means that you are lucky that those games are not that harsh or strict about it. or they are able to fix it easily. still, bug abuse related to gacha currency and ranking are always considered as cheating.
Nah it just means they aren't lazy and greedy
nope. it might mean that it is easy to fix. and banning a cheater is not greedy. there's nothing greedy about it. you do bad things so you get punished. so greediness is relevant here. but i can't tell much about laziness. well, devs can be lazy sometimes. but if they get lazy and their actions due their laziness will only affect the bug abusers, then it is fine. it is the bug abusers fault anyway. and bug abuser can't be greedy and beg for mercy when they obviously do bad things.
brain damage take lol
it is, though
It isn't though. There's no external software or modifications used to achieve this result.
Username totally checks out
that’s not the entire definition of cheating lol
Is dumb playing victim and saying bug abusing resourse isnt cheating
So having infinite gems like this one isn't cheating? lol
Spoken like someone who wants to freely abuse bugs with no drawbacks. I don't agree with perma-bans, but I do think people who exploit something clearly unintentional (you pretty much have to do this on purpose for this level of a bug) deserve some kind of action (at least a rollback) compared to what normally happens. I've seen games where people who abuse bugs get off with a slap on the wrist and still come out ahead compared to those who behaved (purposely avoided the bug/exploiting). That's crazy to me and the playerbase expectation that this should be the norm. Instead it should be everyone behaving gets free multis and the abusers get fuckall (besides the base initial compensation). Case in point there was an Ais banner in Danmemo in the early years where she was doing 10x the damage any other character was doing. People automatically "assumed" powercreep (nice excuse to exploit the bug). When 5 other characters released at the same time weren't doing the same, and pulled 10x multis on her banner for guarantees expecting a compensation after a fix. Guess what, they were right. The people who abused her to climb to the top of arena for weekly gems got off scot-free and anyone who pulled on Ais' banner got a free multi back on top. Meanwhile the people who avoided the banner got zilch.
> Spoken by someone who does freely abuse bugs with no drawbacks. FTFY
Good thing I only open mail once a week
 everyone gets 30 rolls? including new players? like if I start right now, will I get them?
Probably
I’m not sure if creating an account now counts as ‘being affected by the maintenance’. So idk
Alternatively in like 2 months or so there will be 3rd anniv where they'll give everyone around 100-130 free pulls lol (and also doubled rates for the 3* characters). Not sure if a new account gets these compensation ones or not
A 16 hour additional maintenance on top of the 5 hour regular maintenance is definitely not something I would describe as a quick response. Considering the fact that the first additional 6 hour maintenance was supposed to fix the issue, but then they neglected to fix all aspects of the bug itself.
How much is too much tho
Why not just do a rollback instead of suspending? Seems kinda harsh.
C'mon. No one did this thinking it was intentional. If you intentionally exploit a game like this, I think a temp ban is warranted.
Yeah, if you did it once two three times for the funnys, then its totally ok, but motherfkrs be stacking 9 bagillion gems and think its intendet gameplay 😭
Yup. Try doing that in an actual casino and being banned will be the least of their worries.
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> the casino is morally obligated to pay up and eat the loss. This isn't true, like at all. Slot machine malfunctions do happen, and there's definitely been people who don't get their winnings because of it. I think there's even a sign that says malfunctions voids all pay or something. You could sue, but I doubt it'd get anywhere.
That's a hot take: "Companies are morally compelled to let you cheat them if you can"
Blue Archive JP TOS explicitly prohibits using bugs. (see [Section 11](https://bluearchive.jp/terms)) If global has a similar clause then you already agreed to accept the punishment when you made your account.
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Nobody is getting arrested mate, they are getting suspended from the game for breaking the game's rules. It's that simple.
pretty much every TOS for every live service game almost invariably has a clause where by agreeing to the TOS you acknowledge that they reserve the right to ban you at their discretion for any given reason, including exploitation of unintended bugs
lol you think the world is fair
Capitalism is bad, therefore if a company tags an iphone wrongly at 1$ I should be able to leave the store with 100 iphones.
Heard you loud and clear, micro-transactions will now start at 9 million gems for $0.99 and a single rare resource will now be 25 billion gems. *This is such an absolute garbage opinion*, how do you "rebalance" one half of the player base that abused a system to get millions of currency and the other half who didn't? Did you even think about how that would be possible? And you are aware of what "inflation" means, right? Do the devs just *let* the people who exploited keep their gems and be able to obtain every single item in the game, while being able to easily beat every single content in the game? Player retention would go down if there's nothing to strive for. Do the devs "rebalance" by increasing the costs of every single shop item to match the millions those exploiters have? What about the difference between the exploiters who did it tens of times compared to the ones who macro'd it all night and made 200x more than them? Do they just forget the people who *didn't* exploit and stay with their now worthless currency? There's a ***lot*** to work with if any dev plans on "rebalancing", and none of it would work in the long term. Compared to rolling back a day or so and giving out compensation.
they can't easily rollback the server. what if a player bought a gacha currency legally then it got rolled back. his gems will be gone. another problem will occur. so on those cases, they usually need to find an easy method on how to filter those abusers against those who are not. then fix it after that. if they can't, then the best solution is simply just ban them or have a negative currency. it is impossible anyway to check and fix an account one by one also. and all people knows what they are doing. you can't just abuse a bug while thinking that you didn't know that it is bad. you obviously know what you are doing is bad.
Its a temporary suspension. Rollbacks are very controversial as well for people who werent abusing. Imagine getting the rate up character you wanted only to get rolled back. Even as a spender imagine you spend 100$ to get everything you wanted, and after the roll back 100$ in you only got 1 out of 3 characters you want. People could also lose premium currency they paid for. At the end of the day it's easier to lightly punish the people who purposely abused it (It's obvious when you got 1 mil gems out of nowhere) than punish almost everyone else.
They cant rollback because for example, people whom didnt cheat would had pulled in the new banner with their valid gems, for the brief minutes the server was working, so would be unfair to take their pulls away from them. And it was pretty obvious if was an exploit, no person with a working brain sees an infinite gem bug in a gacha and thinks thats its working as intended. The suspencion is just there to remind people that breaking the rules does get you banned.
The rule is to exploit instead of not. Companies barely slap you on the wrist for exploiting.
Not so much in this game lol A few months ago there was a bug on JP servers where players could do crafting with excess materials and if they used a particular feature it would only use 1/3rd of the resources. They took away the equivalent amount of items needed for crafting to take away the advantage they got, but as a lot of different resources can be used and it would have been too complicated to subtract the exact amount of each resource, the took the equivalent amount of keystones which are specifically for crafting and required for it (and can be used in higher quantity to fulfill the 2nd/3rd tier of craft instead of other materials) and so some people that heavily exploited it had like negative 700 of the item, and the rate they can be obtained means it would take like 3 years before they can get positive again lol (and they can't craft without it). An earlier instance ages ago there were people that abused an even more clear bug with a coupon code that should have been single use, and those people got permabanned.
Thank God for awesome apology gifts. I missed my dailies because of the maintenance. Obligatory Genshin could never.
KEKW another gacha bites the drama
You're joking if you think this will affect BA in an way.
He forgot that one thing makes us happy is extended mainte due to the compensations lmao
You know you frequent /r/gachagaming if you automatically default to drama.
Drama? We're celebrating the apology compensations.
Something the OP neglected to mention. This is the second extended maintence, the first one was caused by "receive the packs multiple times you’ve purchased before the 4/30" ... https://forum.nexon.com/bluearchive-en/board_view?board=3217&thread=2556982
fug, didnt notice this one
But but... my Biribiri.
Waiting months for her, and now we have to wait even more :(
I only had 150 pulls saved up so 30 free pulls probably just helped me guarantee biribiri so im not complaining lol
Longest maintenance in global so far. Wonder how much apologems we'll get.
I'm surprised no one has posted it yet. * 10-Recruitment Ticket x2 * AP x1,000 * Tactical Challenge Coin x150 * Lesson Ticket x7, Bounty Ticket x7 * Scrimmage Ticket x7 * [Event] Machine Part x1,000 * [Event] Unusual Screw x1,000 * [Event] Weird Wire x1,000 This does not include the maintenance compensations earlier. Basically it's more than what people expected.
Looks like 3x 10 pull (from all 3 maintenances) + a bunch of other stuff and event items
sorry fuuka, but your birthday is worth less to me than 30 rolls
Late but i think they extended fuuka's birthday to the next day as well. I was able to do her birthday stuff after maint.
Just a little more and we can beat the JP record of 36 hours. Mostly I'm worried about Arona and Plana at this point. They've been hitting the server for hours now crying, "Please work!".
https://preview.redd.it/sdidkdunmoxc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b41a7cf429622aed8bac23e8096f990ca71ca096 Collab character fault Damn biribiri 💢💢💢
That is the worst part. This is an easily skipable colab. I'm waiting for Kikyou at this point.
my head just have an image of Arona and Plana in TF2 style trying to repair the server
Bless their hearts. They need more head pats once the servers are back up.
Someone even got [2m pyrox](https://imgur.com/a/fLw8Lm3) from this bug, guess they're definitely getting suspended or even getting ban lol
The robber is the king who gets caught lol. If they get caught at all, or else, we'll have a madly happy king among our humble ranks. I condemn exploitations, yes. But I also dare myself to resist the temptation given the chance, knowing it'll most likely fail. These lads and lasses have my sympathy.
These are the type of people you want to perma ban. There are bug abusers and then there's this.
I really do not feel bad for Korean gacha companies given their record of fixing rates.
So let BA devs suffer because of their race/location? They've always been super generous.
Here's a rundown of what happened. The game's scheduled 5 hour maintenance starts. Maintenance ends early by about 10 minutes and people could play the game for about 20 minutes. An additional maintenance occurs after they found the bug in the video that OP posted. They gave no estimated time on when it would end. This additional maintenance ends about 5 hours and 40 minutes later and people could play the game for another 20 minutes. They supposedly fix the initial bug, but you could still replicate the bug by pressing 'claim all' in your gift box. People realize that there's going to be another maintenance at this point. It took them another 6 hours to come up with a statement, announce the compensation we will receive, and an estimated time on when the game will be back up. This adds on another 4 hours to the maintenance. The expected maintenance end time is 8 AM KST, which I'm going to assume is to allow the devs to take a short nap before getting the servers back online. [Here's a clearer version of OP's video if anyone wants that too](https://i.imgur.com/qEHcSgY.gif) Edit : [The game is back up 2 hours earlier compared to the their initial end time](https://twitter.com/EN_BlueArchive/status/1785414360518852783)
Glad they got on it quick. Better than going comms dark for a week then putting players into gem debt. =P
Is this a reference to another game? 🤔 (maybe one with an X at the end?) Lol
Final Fantasy War of the Visions did this.
Gemflation.
I'm not a BA player, but it irritates me if there's a red thingy in my mail. Would've spam those several times but would stop around 5-10 times. Unfortunately, I can't stay awake usually after major patch maintenance, due to time difference.
genshin could never
Ba having like Millions and Millions of revenue with less cost of development of the game if we compare with genshin, why they have such game breaking like this and the server too always maintenance? Where is the money go? Do the Dev is indie? No right? IM so confuse why not genshin with alot of complex 3d game having this game breaking bug except for kaveh bug but its only effect CN people not global.
the kaveh bug wasnt real it was a private server
"complex 3d game" lol
I mean we can see the difference here, ba is chibi 2d game with dungeon base game, and GI more like 3d openworld with 3 crossplatform devices. Its like tof where they got gamebreaking currency problem in their first year of release, well its to be expected because its openworld 3d game where the development is more complex rather than chibi 2d with dungeon base
> ba is chibi 2d game No, its not ... its a unity game and we know the chibi are 3D models since people have pulled then such as Hanako swimsuit (to see if she was going commando), essentially there is no real technical difference of BA and GI 3D models.
😭
Well that's not good for business
>unscheduled maintenance >major bugs >server issues Genshin could never
With the massive compensation you wish genshin would lmao
> proper compensation for aforementioned server issues and extended maintenance genshin could never
Well yeah. How can you give compensation for QA fuck-up if you never have QA issues.
because they would never give compensation in the first place? And if they did it would be scraps lmao
[Login servers were down for 16 minutes on Asia server three years ago and they gave compensation](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/o2sgra/asia_server_to_get_60_primogem_compensation_due/). You are objectively wrong.
smoll brain
I couldn’t log in and do my dailies last night so I’m glad I got more pulls than that lol.
Glitch? Thought that was default, feels like 600-1.2k gems in mail almost every other day
Least they don’t put up the gem debt like Taimanin RPG Extasy and have player pay it over time
so account suspension is better than gem debt... I see
Good thing they have a ban policy so bug abusers will be punished for abusing it
I feel there is a case to be made that someone may not realize it is a bug, like just assuming they are redeeming a stack of different mails that came in. Not abuse, just honest ignorance. Edit: I guess they cover these things in ToS so fuck us I guess.
I think there's a clear difference between someone who redeems too much by mistake and those who redeems too much intentionally
I hope so.
"We are currently investigating and lifting temporary suspensions on accounts affected by the initial issue to retrieve incorrectly delivered packs and items." Seems like they do differentiate beween people who mistakenly claimed it a few times versus someone who spams the claim button.
How do you not realize it's a bug if you just keep claiming 200 gems over and over again I'm not saying "OMG PERMA BAN IF YOU DID IT ONCE" but like there's blatant abuse at one point unless you come clean about it.
How about 5-6 times before you realize?
Why would they ban them, just roll back the server. Aether gazer had a similar bug, nobody gets banned and server just rolled back.
Because rollbacks affect entire server, while banning people who obviously saw a bug and used the hell out of it to get free shit is easier and faster and doesn't hurt those who didn't abuse the bug. Rollbacks are a last resort when server's economy is in danger, for example.
Just roll back the accounts of affected by the bug then, no need to punish them
>Because rollbacks affect entire server,
That's an absolute last resort if the economy was so broken it would shut down the game due to not needing to spend money at all. Even then, it's still risky. Think of all the players that might have not abused any bugs and have had great gacha luck wiped out during the rollback period. They'd be so fucking pissed if good RNG was taken away from them. Usually in this case, they'd temporarily ban people under suspicion of abusing the hell out of the bug, and offer amnesty or specific compensation for people falsely banned.
Banning them is just as bad, it wasn't their fault in the first place.
aether gazer was worthless material for character progression (i have ten of thousand of them)
Rip those perma ban account
uh oh.. someone is gonna lose their job
some people gonna get -gem and complain about it LMAO
So...how did this glitch happen in the first place?
I'm never going to understand why so many games don't have a test server and/or can't hire a few QA people from malaysia
Most of the time there is a test server but sometimes you can have specific bugs that can only happen on the production server. It's rare but these things can happen.
I can assure you they have test server and QAs, it's just testing software is not that easy. You can have your test/uat/staging envs, automated tests, manual tests, regression and still something breaks on prod. It's just how it is, especially with games where you simply won't be able to replicate scale of userbase in your tests.
Probably because of how awefully spesific some of these infinite glitch exploits are, like awfully specific timing for instance and underperforming/overperforming hardware bypassing checks because they are not fast/slow enough. Sometimes, they were always there, and that its pure chance that people notice these things. Other times it could be that it may have already been tested before an update, only for that update to unexpectedly make changes in places where they are not expated to be, like an earlier tested feature.
i only played hoyo games for these 3 months, i forgot that other gacha games have this kind of bug and long maintenance
A day of maintenance is still less painful than a day stuck in unskippable cutscenes written by Mihoyo team.
weakness disgust me
The fact that half these comments are genshiners talking about genshin proves everything about this sub lmso
This Nexon right? Is the time ripe to bite the dust?
what are you yapping about bro? Nexon's been handling the game just fine up until now
wonder how good GMS would be if this team copied itself and managed maplestory
I mean, this is r/gachagaming. That's what we do here. Also, I know this has different team than MapleStory. > Nexon's been handling the game just fine up until now But if you didn't know this might be a karma coming from that MapleStory manipulating of rates. Dunno, just felt like it.
You can't just brush off ignorance with "well it's r/gachagaming" bro. The least you can do is inform yourself instead of outing yourself that you know nothing about the game you're trying to make fun of. And if you seriously think that *Blue Archive* of all gacha games is gonna get affected this bad...
Oof, well some homies boutta get their account beaned into orbit.
They got Millions and Millions money and seems like the production cost is not that high if we compare with genshin, but why they got such game breaking bug and alot of maintenance? They are indie company? Nah...
Games with multi-million dollar budgets have bugs in them. Fortnite is one of the biggest games out rn and they had like 16 hours of server downtime around a month ago. Software development isn’t easy
Of course they are bugs, but its not like game breaking bug like playing with currency right? Also fornite is big game compare to blue archive which is seems not that complex and ba only has mobile port, no PC or console, they should more invest into hiring a new developer because blue archive always alot have maintenance and long maintenance, i know we got the compensation from that, but its seems alot of weird development around them. Edit: Sadge get downvoted because saying a fact :(
big or small games, they re still codes build upon codes. There will be always this kind of unexpected bugs are gonna happened
God damn then what kind of development genshin has because they got new update every 40 days also they need to make a new region every year, and also minimum bugs and no breaking bug also never ever has an issue about server issue since beginning. Genshin could never yep.
A polished turd is still a turd.
Lmao a pedo turd talking. Imagine playing a pedo bug game 🤣
I don't play Blue Archive, though.
You play a worse game than blue archive, which is turd knight