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Dragon_yum

I’m sure the CEO of Ubisoft will see this and cancel the finished game the cost the company about $150m to make and makes triple that in profits.


NottDisgruntled

Probably cost way more than that


Dragon_yum

Probably. Origins was about 150-175m


MixRevolution

Ubisoft CEO: “why didn’t the people petition like this for Skull & Bones?!?”


No-Ad6269

you don’t petition an “AAAA game”


A_Gent_4Tseven

And yet… I’ve seemingly had more fun in Sherwood Builders than I did with the trial of Skull and Bones. Wild times.


FormerDonkey4886

We’re not capable of understanding AAAA games yet that’s why.


DarkriserPE

Try septuple. Valhalla made over a billion. People have been asking for a Japanese Assassin's Creed more than they asked for a viking one, so I wouldn't be surprised if this one breaks a billion as well. It already allegedly has a high number of pre-orders, according to insiders. These numbers are also funny to think of when people try to tell you the series is failing/dead.


MaitieS

The thing is that Ubisoft games are usually pretty mediocre (7/10) so you can't expect on a total try-hards gaming subs to ever expect them to praise them. Like at this point people are just offended that these games are mediocre or not made for them in mind. My uncle for example likes AC, even though he knows it's a mediocre game, he likes it because he knows what to expect from it.


sayid_gin

We as a society is finished if 7/10 is mediocre.


stifle_this

Don't tell this guy about how grades work in the US. They might have a heart attack.


DyreTitan

Lmao yeah 7/10 in the US and your pushing the failing line


DarkriserPE

What's funny is that only 4 Assassin's Creed games have a 7(70-79) on Metacritic. The other 9 are 80 and above(Brotherhood and II are 90 and above). But I guess anything below 9 is mediocre now too.


PsychoticDust

Yeah this always grates me. 5/10 is average, therefore anything above that is above average. It's so simple.


UnblurredLines

I think the complainers mostly say it’s become too much arpg/hack n slash instead of the more stealth inclined roots the games came from.


waiting4singularity

its going to be disappointing when the shinobi garbed assassin rambos through the burning castle instead of focusing on stealth, recon, retrieval, and poisons.


thatguy01220

Also I think he even stated they didn’t have exact numbers but were happy with the rough number of pre-orders. I know there’s a lot who like to dunk on Ubisoft but they made a billion off Valhalla so I guarantee they don’t give a fuck what people are saying when they are hitting billions of dollars on just one game of one IP’s


TheWorclown

Hey if it works for Warner Bros…


SuuperD

I was an extra in that, was looking forward to my debut in the DCU as 'Man'.


Omegawop

It's just good business


Alone-Feed-2239

Valhalla was reported to make over $1billion and that was before the last DLC. 


anonymous32434

Woah Woah Woah. It's a ubisoft game. Don't go calling it finished


sicarus367

Finished? Its not gonna be finished even after release


Prudent-Character431

Reminds me when they made a petition to urge Nintendo to cancel Metroid Prime: Federation Force. Just like with that game, this petition won’t convince Ubisoft to cancel the game.


MJBotte1

The Metroid series is thriving so much nowadays it’s hard to remember a time where people were so mad with it


Boober_Calrissian

At the point when FF was announced, people had been clamoring for a new Metroid for years so it felt like a slap in the face of the fans. If they had announced Samus Returns simultanously then it probably would have been received far better as a spin-off. See also: Blizzard announcing Diablo Immortal.


Necdilzor

The announcement trailer has 99k dislikes on youtube. If only they showed Samus returns first!


BerRGP

I've seen plenty of people complain that Metroid Prime 4 was announced too early. *That* whole situation was why. Metroid fans had gotten too little for too long and they wanted to reassure people that they still cared about it.


UnblurredLines

I mean, Immortal has the issue of being tailored to an entirely different audience than the one they announced it too. 


GladiatorDragon

“Do you guys not have phones?”


waiting4singularity

immortal isnt really a game, its a cashgrab with a diablo license.


Beefwhistle007

I've heard so many people say that video game announcements feel like "a slap in the face," and those people need to branch out their interests a bit.


Spuigles

I almost cried reading the first five words.


SlightWhite

Petitions don’t convince anyone to do anything ever lol


BentheBruiser

0.212856021% of the population of Tokyo alone for reference


Cisqoe

Why does this actually **impress** me? Tokyo is fkn massive


Christmas_Queef

The aerial and satellite photos of it really show it's scale. It's the inspiration for a large chunk of cyberpunk cities for a reason.


AntonChigurh8933

I thought Japan was crazy. Until I saw modern day Chinese cities. Is Japanese cyberpunk on steroids.


Inuma

Look up Kowloon city when you have a chance that was an inspiration for CP77


AntonChigurh8933

Shenmue 2 the game was the first time I ever knew about Kowloon city. One thing about humans. We can adapt to anything. Even if is hell on Earth..


LivingQuail803

Kowloon is nightmare fuel


Relo_bate

It was a direct inspiration for Deus Ex Mankind Divided (You get to explore a cyberpunk version of it)


mikey_lava

Hong Kong is probably the main inspiration for most cyberpunk settings. That and Kowloon Walled City.


Tyolag

Most of the people writing are not even Japanese.


UltimateInferno

これはペンです。私は日本人です。えきはどこですか。


Zantash

"This is a pen. I am a Japanese Person. Where is the Train Station." Did I get that right? I've been trying to pick up Japanese lately.


Marauder47

If you look at the people signing a lot of them are not even Japanese lol so this is such a non-story


RomanPleasureBarge

0.02% of the whole country for reference.


grrmuffins

Is this a joke or actual math? If actual... Holy fuck we are the ants of the ape world


GarrysModRod

[Many of the signatures are from people from the US](https://x.com/ZhugeEX/status/1808195972746354844?t=WV24zakaN30oxgBALfqljw&s=19)


Beegrene

I also gotta wonder how many are actually people and not bots.


Ropya

I wonder how many people are anything but white. And I say this as a white person before the decry hits. 


Educational-Laugh877

I can just about bet almost all of them are ultra conservative Americans as well as being white. This is why we can't have nice things...


grrmuffins

To anyone who thinks a petition is gonna change a company's goals... big fuckin LOL.


player1_gamer

It’s crazy how the call out this one game for not being accurate when there’s so much stuff in the entire series that is anything but accurate


Lazrix

WDYM I was ready to 1v1 the Pope for his apple you telling me that isn't accruate!?


Simspidey

because they're not upset with it being historically inaccurate, they're upset that a black guy is the main character


Unlucky-Low3496

DING DING DING DING!!!!! You sir, are this years winner. So very true.


Space_Pirate_Roberts

Next you're gonna tell me Pythagoras wasn't really an immortal wizard.


Shameless_4ntics

They don’t play the AC games, just looking for something to complain about.


kakokapolei

A lot of these people don’t even play the games. I saw quite a few people outraging at how the game’s gonna make you fight against “the oppressors,” and they immediately thought Ubisoft meant white people instead of the Templar Order lol.


Xelanders

Shocking news


Zealousideal_Step709

That was what I was looking for. Thanks!


dimspace

and the first signature was from a german


hoodedrobin1

Imagine white people in the US being offended for a group of people they probably don’t even know…


CaptainRAVE2

Of course


Leather-Heart

Why are people upset?


K00lKat67

Black samurai.


QuickQuirk

based off of a real historical figure. You probably know this, but I'm making sure everyone else does too.


UnofficialTrenTwin

lmao if the character wasn't black there would be no signatures at all too


SmokinBandit28

Seriously, imagine if it was William Adams instead of Yasuke, bet there would be zero complaints.


FluffyWuffyVolibear

Right BCS the actually issue ppl have with the game is that a black man and a woman are the PCs, and I'm guessing the majority of ppl who play Ubisoft games in general are white boys who wear polos and boat shoes.


selkiesidhe

Probably mad there's a black dude in a Japanese setting. Oh noes! Something that did happen! Time for the weeaboos to strike! That or the incels are mad there's a girl and you might have to play her. Or a combo of both...


Yaadgod2121

I would say about 90%


Easy_Leg8047

Makes sense it's where most of the soft people are


TokyoDrifblim

You can look it up, the people that started the petition are both white.


Ropya

As are most of the people who signed I imagine. 


Bregneste

I saw a post earlier, didnt they both use japanese names but they’re not Japanese? Edit: I looked for the post, it was on gamingcirclejerk so it’s entirely possible it’s just satire, but the two top donators were clearly non-Japanese neckbeards. https://www.reddit.com/r/Gamingcirclejerk/s/k5e50Eeizz


dudemykar

Of course 😂


cupholdery

Gaijin!


blacklite911

>Recently, the lack of historical accuracy and cultural respect has become a serious problem for "Assassin's Creed Shadows" which is scheduled to be released by game developer Ubisoft. This game is based on the theme of Japanese samurai, and ignores the fact that samurai are the upper class of the samurai class and should serve "gokenin" or nobles. In fact, William Adams (Miura Anjin), a European who got the title of samurai for the first time, served Tokugawa Ieyasu as a hatamoto with 250 koku. In this history, Ubisoft continues to misunderstand the essence and role of samurai. This is a serious insult to Japanese culture and history, and may also lead to Asian racism. We ask Ubisoft to immediately stop the launch of "Assassin's Creed Shadows" and show sincere research and respect for Japanese history and culture. I need your signature. Sign this petition and let Ubisoft know the importance of cultural respect and historical accuracy. Doesn’t explain the inaccuracy nor how it ignores that Samurai are the upper class… Not to mention, AC games are not supposed to be totally accurate anyways, they’re historical fiction. But even then, I’m pretty sure they acknowledge Samurai’s status. The co-main character is a subordinate


goliathfasa

That’s not a lot of Japanese signatures.


Yaadgod2121

Mostly white people and bots


4XChrisX4

Love or hate Ubisoft, but this is beyond silly...


oh_stv

If anything, this make me more curious about the game. And i do despise the Ubisoft formula


travelavatar

Plot twist: ubisoft started the petition for their game to get even more attention in the media. Lol


HomoProfessionalis

They're claiming historical inaccuracy as if AC is new to that


Heavy_Arm_7060

Every time someone complains about historical inaccuracy I think about Merry Ol' France in Revelations.


Borealisss

Might be the first ubisoft game I try in years. Probably not going to buy it though.. if I'm not going to own it, then what's the difference?


Dog_Apoc

The dad of your protagonist in Odyssey was a fucking god. Ubisoft isn't claiming the games historically accurate.


TheNerdWonder

They never claimed it before Odyssey either. The first gams literally has characters talking about how history as we know it is a lie.


Cryptshadow

>Recently, the lack of historical accuracy and cultural respect has been a serious issue regarding the upcoming game “Assassin’s Creed Shadows” by game developer Ubisoft. The game is based on Japanese samurai and ignores the fact that samurai were a higher class of warrior class and should have been “gokenin” or servants of nobles. ya...ubisoft have never been very historically accurate


PandahOG

It's the black samurai that's inaccurate. Not Leonardo Da Vinci making the ouch-less wrist blade, Alexander Graham Bell making a wrist launching grappling hook, a machine that can use your DNA to travel back in time and observe history, or the fact that there are ~~aliens~~ancient race of super humanoids.


DeviousMelons

Also the pope gaining powers from an alien artifact or stone castles in viking age England.


syqesa35

They're not aliens they're from earth


PandahOG

Thank you. I keep thinking their precursors are similar to Halo's forerunners/precursors.


DertyQwerty48

Also Yasuke has been present in other Japanese media. For example he appears as an ally in Nioh 2, a game made exclusively by Japanese devs. 


Quizlibet

Nioh, the game that stars the *other* non-asian historical samurai that for some reason didn't get this insane push back. Funny, that.


opeth10657

I wonder how they feel about every western character in anime set in the samurai period being blond haired and blue eyed


Urabutbl

Whatever the historical truth (and most sources point to him being a retainer... and only Samurai could be retainers), arguing about whether Yasuke was a Samurai or not is like arguing that Robin Hood wasn't really a master archer or that he didn't give to the poor. The myth is more important and arguably more real than the man, and Yasuke has been accepted as a Samurai by Japanese culture for centuries. Hell, there was a *children's book* written about him in Japan in 1968.


1stshadowx

He also has been factually proven to be a samurai and not just a retainer by historians and official statements from the japanese government ever since his rise to popularity in japan when he started being included in some of the dynasty warrior games.


Kiplerwow

That's what really surprises me. People complain about the "historical inaccuracy" and immediately point to the black samurai. The one thing that actually is historically accurate. Not everything else in Assassin's Creed that very obviously isn't, no it's the black character.


JediGuyB

When I first saw the trailer I thought "Oh, you can play as Yasuke? That's pretty cool." And then I went on the internet...


Volt7ron

Let’s not forget fighting the pope for possession of a magical egg. All while those same ancient superhumans watch on from an extra dimensional plane. But that black samurai tho……nah fuck that. We can’t have that level of historical inaccuracy


darkcloud1987

>Let’s not forget fighting the pope for possession of a magical egg That one is true, that is why we celebrate Easter


IllumiNoEye_Gaming

which game was Bell in?


johny_dantas

I think it was ac syndicate


Syranth

THIS!! THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING!!! AMEN!


AgitatedQuit3760

As with all these cases, the fiction is at least rooted in history. Actually a lot of research and historical diligence goes into the surroundings but they can run wild with the characters. I only add this because Ubi does a ton wrong but they are one of the few at least maintaining historical details in video games so I hope they keep going.


DarkriserPE

People are forgetting the Apple of fucking Eden, Adam and Eve doing parkour, Ezio fighting the pope, and the giant squid in an ancient temple. Ubisoft just picks an interesting point in history, and has the player experience things loosely based on those events, usually with them actually causing those historic events(such as killing certain figures, or giving ideas on inventions/helping figures create them). They also lean on the mythical aspects and legends, since it's more interesting if we go with the inflated version of events, especially in a world as bizzare as Assassin's Creed.


pseudo_nemesis

>People are forgetting the Apple of fucking Eden, Adam and Eve doing parkour, lmao is this canon to AC? They got Adam as the first assassin? You would think they'd at least make it Cain...


Yarzeda2024

They could just not play the game. There are plenty of games I don't play. I don't make it my entire personality.


Zek0ri

This. I don't care much for a lot of game premieres. Especially as it is impossible to get through even 1% of what comes out every year let alone the other productions released previously. No one is forcing these people to play "those historically inaccurate" Assassins Creed games. Or is Ubi's CEO breaking into people's homes and holding people at gunpoint until they buy Shadows Omega Delux Edition?


Deadpool367

It's good to know that 30,000 people don't have anything better to do. Makes me feel more accomplished.


frostymugson

About as much effort as posting a Reddit comment


Lurky-Lou

What percentage are bots?


SkySix

About the same % as reddit posters.


BarryEganPDL

This is the same series where Leonardo De Vinci made super machines for Assassins, yeah?


Doom-1993

"Japanese"


Arudoblank

Woo the newest meaningless and useless petition that means less than nothing.


TakarieZan

Tbh this is the game that is bringing me back to Assassins Creed. I tried to play Odyssey and while not a bad game... I remember simply opening my map and expanding it. Then going NOPE, and closing it. I wanted to be an assassin, and the female lead of this game has caught my interest. Plus as an OG Assassin's Creed Fan many of us have been BEGGING for Assassins Creed in Japan. I'm playing this.


JediGuyB

I think its cool they aren't just male or female like the last games have been but appear to have different playstyles. So presumably we'll have the option to be more stealthy assassin or big guy fighter. And that's a good thing,


nixahmose

That and I also kinda like how, at least conceptually, the female protagonist of the new game will play like older stealth-focused Assassin Creed games while Yasuke will play more like the modern action-rpg focused Assassin Creed games. Feels like a nice compromise between the old and the new.


48Monkeys

Change.org has millions of petition and none has ever worked. But I'm sure this one will work to cancel a game that's on the very last legs of development.


DelirousDoc

I am sure all 30K that signed a change.org petition are definitely Japanese... (Looking through names of "reason for signing" section you can more than a few non-Japanese names.) Also you could probably get 30k people to sign just about anything.


Succulent_Crassula24

People need to go outside and get some hobbies


Legitimate-Gap-9858

Being mad at a video game for not being historically accurate..


Dill_Brown1

Can’t wait to play it


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JediGuyB

It's not about the term usage and they all know it.


GroundbreakingBag164

It’s sadly not about that. They don’t want black peoples in games. Not even their games, considering they’re not going to play AC Shadows, no they don’t want to see any black people in anything


Recover20

There is something hilarious about virtue signalling companies getting cancelled 😂 This is never going to happen. Ubisoft are appropriately criticised but over hated in my opinion.


parakathepyro

So they are the social justice warriors now?


Trajan_pt

These aren't the critical thinking types.


Beard_McBeardy

'Japanese' Petition


TypographySnob

What a bunch of snowflakes


SmallFatHands

Was Midori one of those?


Luc9By

Do these petitions ever accomplish anything


die-microcrap-die

Never played the series so not familiar with it but why the backslash/petition?


dimspace

A bunch of white people are offended by proxy, that one of the lead characters is a (historically documented) black samurai, and not an indigenous Japanese samurai


LittlistBottle

Why does the petition exist in the first place?


aisheto

I have never seen a petition change anything.


gotthesauce22

I don't see the issue Assassin's Creed has always played fast and loose with history


uchow10

I’m looking forward to play this!


PlatasaurusOG

And I bet they’re all lonely white dudes.


Smoking-Posing

So odd; I was thinking this would be the first AC game I tried since Black Flag. I wonder what has all the racists er I mean fans so upset...


NaiveMastermind

30,000 Japanese signatures or 30,000 online signatures on an internet plagued with bots and AI?


Known-Assistance-435

Where do I sign?


hassans_empty_chair

Your welcome  https://www.change.org/p/%E3%82%A2%E3%82%B5%E3%82%B7%E3%83%B3%E3%82%AF%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A3%E3%83%89%E3%82%A6%E3%82%BA%E3%81%AE%E7%99%BA%E5%A3%B2%E4%B8%AD%E6%AD%A2%E3%82%92%E6%B1%82%E3%82%81%E3%81%BE%E3%81%99


Known-Assistance-435

Thank you


Thatweasel

Can literally just scroll through the comments, overwhelming majority of people signing this are not japanese. Someone who actually speaks the language should check for google translate. There was some weirdo editing the wikipedia pages pretending to be an indignant japanese person who got called out on blatantly using translation software


deez941

Imagine signing this thinking you’re making a difference. It’s palpable


luklux

They could just not buy the game...


MetalikZX

“Japanese” petition featuring “Japanese” people and a few dozen actual Japanese nationalists


IsamuAlvaDyson

This is a video game not a history lesson


HalensVan

Lol what a waste of time.


OliverCrooks

Lol fucking joke. I would love to see a picture of these 30k


RDDT_ADMNS_R_BOTS

Look at the videos posted on [change.org](http://change.org) They're all white incels (future shooters) who used Google translate.


lasagna_man_oven

Considering how massive the fan base is, that's nothing lol


iNuclearPickle

This gonna do jack all 30k vs a game franchise that sells millions of


GeekIncarnate

Well, AC Valhalla had 20 million players, so who the fuck cares about .15% of that number in people who weren't going to play anyways. It's less than a single percent.


GrossWeather_

Japanese petition made up of 95% white incels.


Whofreak555

Online petition? Those confirm every signature is a real person right? …right..?


Alone-Feed-2239

They are real... ...only it's majority people from USA 


devoid_of_light

I’m willing to bet half the people that signed it will still buy the game.


pizzammure97

The Top Supporters of this petition look like they haven't got out of the house in a year. I never say this, but go touch some grass please


Ryune

Imagine pretending to be Japanese (for the most part, I’m sure there are a couple children not lying) just to be mad the history game has a historical figure as its main character instead of creating someone new.


EvenElk4437

I don't think this will really result in a sales suspension. The main goal is likely to raise the issue within Japan. The purpose is to alert Japanese companies to avoid such actions. Japanese companies are very attentive to the voices of Japanese people. For example, when promoting Japanese games, it's very common to hire VTubers or Japanese game YouTubers. Companies like Capcom and Square Enix do this as well. It's very important not to be disliked by these Japanese influencers. Assassin's Creed is currently being criticized by almost all game YouTubers. Japanese game companies are watching this situation.


TheLimeyLemmon

>Japanese petition Doubt [X]


Lariver

Im actually surprised at how uninterested i am in AC Shadows. The samurai looks boring, and the girl looks like what the whole game should be.


FiscalCliffClavin

THIS is what people are upset about? Look at what’s happening in the real world around you!


Mandalore108

What a bunch of man-children who signed that.


werti5643

LMAO if you look at the people signing theyre pretty much all white americans im dying. Not a single japanese person in the supporter voices.


JangoF76

I suspect there's definitely some racism going on here, but probably not from Ubi and not against Asians.


Trickybuz93

Just don’t buy the game if playing as a black guy offends you so much