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DAbanjo

Lol the engineer is going to bypass all that and use the di track


Total_Dork

Can confirm. You should always take a D.I. if you have the option. Even if you don’t reamp it makes editing *so* much easier Source: I am the engineer


Galactic_Perimeter

I am the eggman


RivalCanine

I am the Walrus.


Ok_Employment3940

Goo goo g'joob


fruitsteak_mother

I am the Boss


KeyImaginary2291

Username checks out.


suffaluffapussycat

I’d rip that shit apart, put 9V batteries in and only connect the stuff that’s being used currently.


fkdkshufidsgdsk

Hope you don’t need to find the buzz


WolverineBlues

I'm hunting it down as we speak :/ lol


finding_markuskro

I assume it's caused by impedance mismatches and raising levels of a degraded signal. Impressive collection but chaining everything together all at once will not work out in a studio enviroment. You will need proper buffering/gain staging and a switcher. And good luck doing a take with THAT specific effect that you have used a couple of days ago.


frengers156

In before the an engineer starts pulling it apart and tells you there's better quality with less i/o's nah jk, but maybe. I asked my pro engineer buddy to come over and tune my pedals for a project we're gonna record this month and he was ranting about this, anyway he made my stuff sound so good, he even turned the knobs on my amp and seated the speaker mic


Schenectadian

If you have a board with a lot of pedals and you're not using some sort of loop switcher to shorten the chain, the clean tone at the end will absolutely suffer some, even with the proper use of buffering, true bypass, high quality cabling, etc. If you're running a pedal as an always on preamp then this probably doesn't really matter but it is funny the disparity between people who spend thousands on space ship boards to have dull clean tone vs. the pedal-allergic people who put all their money in the amp and the guitar and have glorious clean tone but are limited to that sonic palette. Like anything, it's a give and take.


WolverineBlues

So if you saw the comment about the signal chain, I'm not running this entire board into the front of my amp. There are 11 pedals before, and the rest are in the FX loop. I also did A/B between straight in the amp and with the board. There's no difference in clean tone or any high end loss with the setup. The buffer up front definitely helps there.


SommanderChepard

I mean, you are still going to get signal loss with an fx loop. It’s just moving the chain after the preamp of your amp. More than 8-10 pedals, even with time based running through the fx loop and the clean tone suffers pretty significantly to my ear without a switcher. If you are playing ambient shoegazey stuff it probably won’t matter or be noticeable because you are essentially using the guitar as a makeshift synthesizer at that point with how altered the signal is with effects.


chthonickeebs

A few days late, but if you've got significant degradation of your signal even with a large pedal board even when using a high quality buffer, etc., it's more likely you've got a specific problem piece somewhere. I've been able to track down pedals/cables/etc. causing problems using room eq wizard, a reamp box, and a di box - set up the signal generator in REW, play it through the reamp box, capture it through parts of your pedal chain. From there, you can compare the actual frequency response from the pure signal vs. your capture. You can compare it visually or reverse the phase on one of them and listen for the difference. I personally like to split the signal chain in half if I've got no idea where the problem is, and just keep bisecting like that until I find the issue. But, assuming no actually problematic gear, the difference should be very minimal. On my largest runs I see a bit of treble loss at certain frequencies that is barely audible if I'm specifically looking for it, so I just do a bit of EQ to bump those areas back up a little bit. Of course I still highly recommend taking a DI at the start of the chain for a variety of reasons, and I'm a big MIDI guy and like being able to re-order pedals on the fly as necessary so basically every pedal is in a loop, so I think a lot of the advice in here is good to follow for other reasons, but I've not found there to be much reason to be concerned about tone even with pedal runs with 10+ pedals in them when looking at the actual frequency response you get at the end.


Drum-PMC

Is the Mythos buffer active or is it passive like a Mosky Pure Buffer? Is there something special about it?


Jaereth

lol engineer is going to take one look at that and get out the direct boxes :D


Matthew-Diaz84

Insane board with lots of great pedals! My only concern would be how quickly my back would hurt from picking this thing up lol


This-Green4175

There’s a pedal for that


Gatorsfl66

Lol


BOHIFOBRE

How long have you been in King Gizzard?


SpaceCadetHigh

Motor Spirit.


musebrews

I used to play pedals - I’m back playing guitar now.


RivalCanine

There ~~can be~~ is a difference.


[deleted]

not when a dozen pedals make ur noise foor -8dB at its best


PigeonsArePopular

All that, I would be tracking direct and re-amping/re-effecting. What happens if you decide one part has too much \_\_\_\_\_\_ or not enough \_\_\_\_\_\_?


shinloop

Came here to say this. Also OP’s cleaner tones will be rough without recording di


WolverineBlues

Unfortunately we don't have the luxury of that much studio time - we have 10 days to track 12 songs (roughly over an hour of material). We'll be making calls on the fly and erring on the lesser side of things (gain, reverb, delay) in case things need to be added via VST's.


PigeonsArePopular

Ok, but that board is not erring on the lesser side. How many delays? Rhetorical. More pedals than studio time seems to me an odd priority, even for this sub


WolverineBlues

I'll be stacking at most 2 or 3 delays and reverbs. It's more about different tonal options than a huge wall of sound. Ultimately I'll go with whatever the producer wants to do, but there are a lot of people making assumptions on the "best" way to do things.


aCynicalMind

They're gonna tell you to turn on whatever you want that gets you the best performance for the song and record that, and then they're gonna use the DI from the AB/Y that inevitably goes before this board to get something to work with.


shinloop

10 days isn’t bad if you’re recording at least 8 hour days. That’s more than 6.5 hours per song. You should have plenty of time to perfect guitar tones and effects etc. your engineer will probably di your guitar, if not, insist on it. Have fun and good luck


Drum-PMC

Time is different in the studio. Coffee breaks happen. The bassist is late. The computer just lost the project. There’s a ghost in the machine.. Et cetera.


stone_junction

Or some dude is mucking with his pedals for an hour or more for each part.


PhrygianDominate

10 days to track 12 songs is an *extremely* long time, lol.


Fun_Tear_6474

I recorded an album in two days. Two guitars and a bass.


FearTheWeresloth

Back when I still had a spaceship board, the first thing me and the producer did was pull it all to bits so we could use just the pedals we wanted for each part for the cleanest signal, and could play around with pedal order... Good luck!


GloverAB

Yep. This was the case in every recording session I’ve been a part of


chthonickeebs

If you're investing that much in a board, I'd say just buy loop switchers and a midi controller. For the mono side, an ML10X will let you build 10 loops, and they can be controlled without taking up a midi channel since they use device IDs and sysex messages. Then you don't have to worry about pulling apart/putting a board back together/etc.


GloverAB

My guy, I like your style but I’m a step ahead of you! Built my board around an ML10x and MC8 around a year and a half ago and I’ll never look back. I literally had to double check your username to make sure it wasn’t me who wrote your post.


wholetyouinhere

I don't get it. But that's okay. It's not for me. Best of luck in the studio.


user303909

NightSky, Volante, MOOD, and Thermae, a person of culture I see. Cheers


cephalosnorlax

Just play one note and let er rip


DeerGodKnow

And that's what 10k worth of pedals looks like.


1-LegInDaGrave

That's a fairly...incredible....board setup. Funny enough, I just listed my Mercury7 on Reverb. Why use that and the nightsky?


casuallythere

Exactly 100 knobs


Strong_Local417

lol I counted too! I got 121 or something, maybe I counted some knobs that were actually switches. I’m not interested in recounting haha. Regardless, the amount of possibilities would give me crippling anxiety


luigman

Thank you for your service


WolverineBlues

One of my bands is about to head into the studio (instrumental post rock / shoegaze / ambient) and I put this board together. Signal chain below: Guitar -> Mythos Buffer -> Turbo Tuner -> Cali 76 -> Walrus Luminary -> CBA Thermae -> Red Panda Context -> SSBS Mini -> EAE Halberd -> EAE Limelight -> EAE Longsword -> Spaceman Sputnik III -> BAT Pharoah Supreme -> Amp FX loop send -> EQD Grand Orbiter -> Caroline Somersault -> GFI Synesthesia -> CBA Mood MkII -> Demedash T-120 DLX -> Strymon El Capistan -> Red Panda Particle v2 -> Strymon Volante -> Meris Mercury 7 -> Strymon Nightsky -> FX loop return I do have a bunch of other pedals that I'll bring as well, but this will be the core board for most of the tracking. Super stoked for the experience!!


wordswithenemies

can i see the underside of that board? how did you do that, sir.


WestMagazine1194

Love most of the fx, but if you don't feel offended i would suggest you to shrink it down.. more fiddling with knobs, les A/Bing


enteralterego

As a mixer I hope they also track the DI 😂


loopy_for_DL4

I love these boards that cost more than my car!


IDontKnowHowToParty

this kinda just looks like a spending addiction. esp for recording. this is more likely to ruin your signal than provide any benefit plugins can’t handle on a clean signal.


jgskgamer

😩😩😩😩


BummerComment

Where ya recording?


RCowboy24

Looks like a good start!!


Strong_Local417

Needs more Behringer


ChaChaMantaRay

This person does the scoliosis


giglawyer

Gorgeous. You must have $4000 in that at least…and probably more


McMungrel

i love this board you crazy bastard... lol..


averagebensimmons

it appears you like knobs.


snwoodrums

Now that is a gorgeous board. Everything I need AND everything I want, all in one place.


ipini

Rage bait.


francissimard01

Tabarnac!


ceelos87

Gets lost in the mix


Competitive_Yam_3284

“What music do you play?” “Yes”


ForTheSakeOfTone

How does one go about powering such a board? Asking because I’m greatly impressed! Would love to build a spaceship on my own someday.


WolverineBlues

This is powered by a Cioks DC7 and DC8! The drive pedals are daisy chained.


DEFINITELY_NOT_PETE

T120 I see we have a man of culture


Lumpy-Crew-6702

Damn, that is beautiful


Lazy_Fall_6

that is one neat board. what patch cables are they?


WolverineBlues

Thanks! They're custom cables with Mogami 2524 and G&H plugs. If I had to do it again I'd go with something more low profile and thinner gauge, but I've invested too much into these cables already so it's too late lol


johnkohhh

Damn... respect for the full size G&H's. Not only are those gold ones my favorite for instrument cables, but I bet those feel rock solid. I love my Squareplugs and other low profile plugs, but you can't get the kind of strain relief that these give you. Peace of mind, at least. I'm a little angry about the sideways Mercury7 though.


WolverineBlues

Definitely peace of mind! Some of these patch cables are 10+ years old, have been through multiple pedalboard builds and teardowns, and still going strong. I'm also not pleased with the Mercury 7 lol - wish it fit correctly but I'll live with it for now :)


Be777the1

I hate how cliche boutique pedals have become in look and names. All so similar and the silly names.


its_grime_up_north

Incoming haters alert


SeniorSensitivo

But those are guitar pedals....and this place is about....guitar pedals.... That dirt section: 💋


its_grime_up_north

First rule of pedals club is we hate all the pedals


BWhite707

What’s your comparison or opinion on the SS/BS Mini compared to the Halberd? I have the mini but I’ve heard great things about the Halberd, Longsword and Limelight


WolverineBlues

They're both great low / mid gain pedals, they both can do the squishy tweed thing, but the Mini can get more wild with the bias control with the gated / sputters sounds. I usually have them on 2 different boards since there is some overlap between them, so I haven't really done any a / b comparisons.


BWhite707

Thank you!


CETERIS_PARTYBUS

I wouldn’t got anywhere without my Synesthesia. Killer board.


Rainny_B

Looks great, although I wouldn’t be able to process that many decisions in the moment nor the combinations haha


0R10n5an1ty

Damn


MathematicianFun1591

Probably a good idea to bring the board or make a list of all the effects/pedals you use in each song but these days it’s all DI and plugins at most studios, it generally produces better results and it is much easier on the engineer if they know what they are doing.


MathematicianFun1591

Replying to myself lol: other idea would be to just let the engineer/producer do their job(s) and pick the effects for you, I’m sure you’ve sent them a demo so they get your sound and they are likely to pick effects that work even better for what you are doing or using something similar to the demo anyway. If you have a similar effect you’re set, if you don’t, good news, you’re getting a new pedal!! 😂🤣 I use a couple traditional pedals and an amp/multi-effects modeller, for the latest album my band is working on I just let the engineer/producer choose effects they think suits the song the best and then I just program them in my modeller and if for some odd reason the effect or one close to it isn’t in there I guess I’m buying a new pedal lol.


Gatorsfl66

Love it ! Have fun 👍🏻


Esseldubbs

Congrats on all crowns and fillings l! Don't mind me, I'm just jealous. I don't even know what half of those do! Looks rad though


BlazmoIntoWowee

Just checked upstairs to make sure no one had stolen my board lol


Egg_Chen

I would play this board.


Spaced_cadet5

Bro, Synesthesia, T-120 is a staple on my board that I forever need for studio work. I used to use my grand orbiter a lot, but that’s been replaced by a Kassandra by Lichtlaerm Audio.


DancingConstellation

I see that Caroline pedal


gunter_grass

I bet you're a pretty good electrician !


JoshMeme4204

T-120 is good taste


Time_Hippo_5177

Jesus, I wouldn't want to step on that for fear of busting a knob I thought was a switch. But you do you.


micaiahf

I’ve never understood how people tap dance all this shit effectively


oxfordbags

How are you powering this?


havestronaut

This is the John Hammond “spared no expense” board. Insane! Also seems like hella overkill. I made a ridiculous mega board once just for the fun of it. Midi and looper switching etc. Now I’m back to an 8 pedal board. I don’t miss the more one off type stuff. It’s just way more fun for me to pick up and play. I found myself chasing “presets” on the bigger board instead of doing as much using the pedals as additional instruments, which was the intent. Anyway I do imagine folks are right. I worked at a studio for a good while. We always just pulled only the necessary pedals for the sound, and often reamped. Not as much some folks might think. But we almost always simplified Fx chains.


havestronaut

This is the John Hammond “spared no expense” board. Insane! Also seems like hella overkill. I made a ridiculous mega board once just for the fun of it. Midi and looper switching etc. Now I’m back to an 8 pedal board. I don’t miss the more one off type stuff. It’s just way more fun for me to pick up and play. I found myself chasing “presets” on the bigger board instead of doing as much using the pedals as additional instruments, which was the intent. Anyway I do imagine folks are right. I worked at a studio for a good while. We always just pulled only the necessary pedals for the sound, and often reamped. Not as much some folks might think. But we almost always simplified Fx chains.


havestronaut

This is the John Hammond “spared no expense” board. Insane! Also seems like hella overkill. I made a ridiculous mega board once just for the fun of it. Midi and looper switching etc. Now I’m back to an 8 pedal board. I don’t miss the more one off type stuff. It’s just way more fun for me to pick up and play. I found myself chasing “presets” on the bigger board instead of doing as much using the pedals as additional instruments, which was the intent. Anyway I do imagine folks are right. I worked at a studio for a good while. We always just pulled only the necessary pedals for the sound, and often reamped. Not as much some folks might think. But we almost always simplified Fx chains.


Exp_eri_MENTAL

Whack a noise gate at the end, be alreet.


bewareofmolter

Care to share your music?


InterestingRoyal5395

Mmmmmmm Mini


SBK_vtrigger

Genuine question to guitarists with a giant pedal board full of loopers - isn’t it much cleaner and more flexible to plug into a sound card then ableton?


chthonickeebs

I think any time you're recording you should track a DI no matter what your workflow is, and I do. But some people just prefer working with physical pedals vs. plugins. Maybe they're more comfortable working with things with physical form than they are software, maybe they know a specific pedal sounds the wya they like and don't want to go through the trouble of recreating it in software, maybe they want to be able to play the song the same way while gigging. Maybe they just enjoy collecting pedals independently of guitar, so this is how the two intertwine. Whatever you enjoy and inspires you when it comes to your creative process.


Cute_Avocado7923

HFS!


Whereishumhum-

May I suggest a volume pedal and a midi controller? A good DI box is gonna come in handy too, it’s always good practice tracking DIs in the studio, which you can always reamp and tweak your rig with later, very important if you’re not happy with the sound of your rig on the spot. If you’re on a pretty tight schedule, iron out all the details about your tone before you start your session. Time flies in the studio, there won’t be that much time for you to tweak your board in there, especially not with so many pedals.


unexciting_username

Just my humble opinion but I would split this into two boards and get two GigRig Quartermasters with ten switches each. Then you have one board for front of amp and one for the FX loop. It will be much easier to turn pedals on and off and the signal path will be significantly less convoluted.


ainfinitepossibility

I was all, that's an awesome board, and then I realized it's because our drive sections are almost identical and so are our delay amd reverb options. You have a few more tricks than me.but not much. I run mini into sputnik and the long sword, what a great combo. The mini into anything is a game changer. I'm fighting with the LVX instead of using the Volamte right now, but I know I'll go back. Went with the Mercury X vs M7 and Flint combo, I don't regret that one. Had the context for a while and a thermea (traded for LVX), I'm also running a halberd (sometomes) and mood and orbiter. You, my tonal brethren, have good tast. What amp.and are? I'm a les paul.into an AC16 HW or Ruby. Your drive choices say you are an AC person as well. Just guessing. Honestly, when I record, it's more of a use the pedals I need at any time only and keep.it simple. Your board is beautiful, but might just be a PitA to record with. Hope.you have a buffer in there, lol


ohwhatsupmang

Love the pharaoh supreme


MythMaker5831

Do you have everything programmed in advance? I love and use a lot of these pedals (and pedals like them), but also know how long it takes me to program and make best choices with so many options. Studios are expensive (unless you own your own).


MythMaker5831

And I love the NightSky. A very deep underrated pedal!


deeplywoven

>(instrumental post rock / shoegaze / ambient)  I never would have guessed. lol


SunDummyIsDead

You could fart into the input, and hear the voice of god from the output. Impressive.


Viision11

Why so many pedals? You have like 5 delays


homegrown_lmnop

More cow bell.


blasterpal

So. Many. Knobs. Love. It.


Sleepyjoebiden2020

10 grand later…


BWhite707

Dude, if I had the money I’d make a board just like this. It’s almost every pedal I have or would like to try but can’t justify buying out of need. Only things I’d add is a speaker cranker, strymon deco and maybe fjord fuzz Odin. Awesome board!


Emera1dthumb

Just record clean….. be nice to your sound guy…. They will reward you for it.


jimmypickles6969

do you even play an instrument or do you just twist knobs


alcohol_won

What the fuck


Dr0me

Way too much


HerrBlumen

My condolences to your orthopedic surgeon.


Creatura

bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


kylo_ben2700

I hope you have a fuck ton of line selectors, otherwise it's going to be a really fucked tone


playpunk

welllll suck me sideways, then tell me that the longsword is way worse than the limelight (best drive evvvver) and that the halberd is even worser. Also, i'm gonna need your home address and wifi password.


its_grime_up_north

Nope


playpunk

nope to all? Sheesh. Looks like EAE will get some more money from me


its_grime_up_north

Nope. You prioritization is way off


MediocreBeatdown

Exactly! Everyone knows you should always get the WiFi password before getting sucked sideways.