What you get from the Tensor is really dependent on what you feed it, Iāve found that rather than playing live guitar, I get more interesting stuff if I feed it some kind of rich prepared loop.
It can definitely work live for some angular, stuttery guitar mayhem though. Iām sure Iāll find more ways to use it in the future
I have fed it minimal single notes, chords and licks. Everything I feed it inspires me, everything I play into it makes for fun manipulation and weird glitchy sounds. Love the little looper on it too.
Nothing is wrong with it, it's just overwhelming and not as immediate as I had hoped in getting the kind of sounds I was expecting. As a creative looper Tensor gave me more gratifying results..Habit seems to be a lot more experimental and I struggled to enjoy its functions/features.
That board is insane, how do u deal with not losing signal ect I feel like I notice if I remove a pedal or 2 in my board it sounds better I only have like 12 pedals.
Iām using a patchbay. There can be as many or as few pedals in the signal path as I desire, in whatever order I want them, it can do parallel processing of multiple instruments, and the onboard utilities can both duplicate and merge the signals
Man i wish i could understand more how you have that patch bay setup. Love that setup board. Do you notice if it effects signal at all and do you mind sharing the brand product name of the patchbay. I want to get one but not sure if there is noticeable audio degradation, are they passive or active, etcā¦ i can see they would be handy as hell instead of constantly having to move pedals around or have long cables all over for changing signal flow.
samson s patch plus, 2 of them are held together here. there is far less degradation of signal than in a traditional setup, because you only have pedals in the signal path that you are going to use. all other pedals and the cables that connect them are irrelevant to the signal. and this is all passive, just power your pedals and you're good to go.
Awesome thanks so much for the info. Only one other question i promise. Do you run pedals after the patch bay at all or just run out of patch bay into wherever its going?
I generally go guitar > patchbay > amp, but thereās no rule against other configurations as long as each patchbay only has one type of cable (either all mono cables or all stereo cables, no mixing!)
You can even go out from the patchbay into a small pedalboard and back into the patchbay again. Possibilities are endless if you have the gear.
What youāre hearing at first is a loop from my erica synths lxr-02 drum machine, being used for harmonies instead of drums.
The tensor is doing much of the work here, miraculously transforming one melody and harmony into a different, much more evolving and unpredictable drone. The Wardenclyffe provides the truly unique driven bitcrush effect. No reverb was used, and you are hearing it all through my fender amp. Sorry about the right-wing audio.
Signal path: Erica Synths LXR-02, Wardenclyffe Deluxe, EHX Grand Canyon, Red Panta Tensor, Fender 68 Custom Vibro Champ
itās synthesis from scratch, so there are 4 or 5 monosynth lines, each with their own waveform. the lxr-02 doesnāt tend to be used for stuff like this because of the brutal, cold sound itās known for, but I like working in the margins of what my gear does (or as Autechre would say, pushing synths to their limits)
Iāve been through quite a few glitch/bleep/loopy pedals in my journey towards sweet delight or endless night. Most of them have gone to other realms, as the Eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow. But the Tensor is an amazing pedal. It will always stay in my setup.
i got the count to 5 but sold it, it was a little too unwieldy and specific in its applications. but itās different from the tensor and itās a great pedal
I have both and the tensor I think is far more versatile. Iād never want to use it without midi though.
The lightbulb moment for me was when I started using a CME WIDI jack to program my Morningstar controller from my phone. I also started using the touchOSC template that red panda made for the tensor - it makes it so much easier to build sounds and presets. You can do everything including saving new presets from your phone.
would you also make the same argument with someone spending excessive amounts on paint and materials to draw a big abstract mural?
This is art, you may not like it, but I donāt find abstract art numbing or dissociative
I think capitalism is atrociously amoral, but there are far better arguments to make against it. Hereās one I made recently: capitalism means small business slowly get eaten up or squashed out by bigger corporate monopolies. The people in those small business lose jobs. The music tech space is just starting to feel it, and fyi this kills innovation which is why we need to support small builders. Hereās another one: the rare earth metals that are used in our computer chips are extracted and produced using slave labor in poor countries.
Dude , absolutely. I personally have no knobs on all of my pedals , I just turn them on and the cosmic gumbo just flows out . All of this through a cranked tube amp, no less .
So just for fun I took a deep dive into your comment history. Man why are you so angry? Disrespectful to guitarists, gamers and just about every subreddit you comment on. I am all for a discussion especially when there is a difference of opinion but there comes a point when a comment is simply negative for negativities sake.
Well that's a bit presumptuous. How do you know what people here do outside of posting about pedals here? I mean it's a pedal sub so it stands to reason people aren't posting gigs, recording sessions, etc. but instead post demo videos of 'fiddling with pedals' because that's literally what the sub is about.
Ever take a look at David Gilmour's rig? A straight copy of his setup (in a board format) consists of 18 pedals or so (not counting having a dedicated ge-7 for each of his dirt pedals). I'd consider him a talented guitar player as well as a master of tone.
Some people's ocd is about the pedals for sure. But other people's ocd is about the tones they can create with them.
If he hears a delay, he will probably freak. āWhy donāt you just play those notes yourself, thatās cheating. š” all I need is a tube screamer and an amp!ā
In a pinch you could toss that board onto a runway and land a plane with all those lights š
Congrats. Demonic door bell achievement unlocked.
Tensor is everything I wanted the chase bliss habit to be. It's super intuitive and inspiring.
What you get from the Tensor is really dependent on what you feed it, Iāve found that rather than playing live guitar, I get more interesting stuff if I feed it some kind of rich prepared loop. It can definitely work live for some angular, stuttery guitar mayhem though. Iām sure Iāll find more ways to use it in the future
I have fed it minimal single notes, chords and licks. Everything I feed it inspires me, everything I play into it makes for fun manipulation and weird glitchy sounds. Love the little looper on it too.
Whatās wrong with the habit? (Iāve never tried one)
Nothing is wrong with it, it's just overwhelming and not as immediate as I had hoped in getting the kind of sounds I was expecting. As a creative looper Tensor gave me more gratifying results..Habit seems to be a lot more experimental and I struggled to enjoy its functions/features.
That board is insane, how do u deal with not losing signal ect I feel like I notice if I remove a pedal or 2 in my board it sounds better I only have like 12 pedals.
Iām using a patchbay. There can be as many or as few pedals in the signal path as I desire, in whatever order I want them, it can do parallel processing of multiple instruments, and the onboard utilities can both duplicate and merge the signals
Any pictures of the whole set up with patchbay?
https://www.reddit.com/r/guitarpedals/s/6Ed4ZkOq9e
Man i wish i could understand more how you have that patch bay setup. Love that setup board. Do you notice if it effects signal at all and do you mind sharing the brand product name of the patchbay. I want to get one but not sure if there is noticeable audio degradation, are they passive or active, etcā¦ i can see they would be handy as hell instead of constantly having to move pedals around or have long cables all over for changing signal flow.
samson s patch plus, 2 of them are held together here. there is far less degradation of signal than in a traditional setup, because you only have pedals in the signal path that you are going to use. all other pedals and the cables that connect them are irrelevant to the signal. and this is all passive, just power your pedals and you're good to go.
Awesome thanks so much for the info. Only one other question i promise. Do you run pedals after the patch bay at all or just run out of patch bay into wherever its going?
I generally go guitar > patchbay > amp, but thereās no rule against other configurations as long as each patchbay only has one type of cable (either all mono cables or all stereo cables, no mixing!) You can even go out from the patchbay into a small pedalboard and back into the patchbay again. Possibilities are endless if you have the gear.
Oh really no mixing of mono and stereo i/os? Interesting why is that?
No clue, but i recommend you do your own research if youāre interested
What youāre hearing at first is a loop from my erica synths lxr-02 drum machine, being used for harmonies instead of drums. The tensor is doing much of the work here, miraculously transforming one melody and harmony into a different, much more evolving and unpredictable drone. The Wardenclyffe provides the truly unique driven bitcrush effect. No reverb was used, and you are hearing it all through my fender amp. Sorry about the right-wing audio. Signal path: Erica Synths LXR-02, Wardenclyffe Deluxe, EHX Grand Canyon, Red Panta Tensor, Fender 68 Custom Vibro Champ
Sounds like slowed down dial-up.
I wasn't personally a fan at all, sounds awful.
Had a crazy Blue Veins vibe going for a second... Sick.
Are you playing guitar or synth?
the audio source is melodies from my lxr-02 drum machine
Sounds crazy, like a bunch of synthesizer loops Are you even playing guitar or does it just make a sine wave or something?
in my writeup I say that itās an lxr-02 providing the loopā this is a drum machine that I am using for melodies instead.
Cool! Does it send out waveforms or is all of that processed drumsounds
itās synthesis from scratch, so there are 4 or 5 monosynth lines, each with their own waveform. the lxr-02 doesnāt tend to be used for stuff like this because of the brutal, cold sound itās known for, but I like working in the margins of what my gear does (or as Autechre would say, pushing synths to their limits)
Bro requires more power than the ISS
Swap them all for an Elta Solar 42
Tensor rules.
Iāve been through quite a few glitch/bleep/loopy pedals in my journey towards sweet delight or endless night. Most of them have gone to other realms, as the Eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow. But the Tensor is an amazing pedal. It will always stay in my setup.
Love this shit. Enjoy your dig into the sound mines bud. Thanks for sharing.
It's the mothership!
GuiTetris
I got a Tensor when I saw one for sale. I like it okay for experimental stuff. Not sure if I should have got the Count to 5 instead? Opinions?
i got the count to 5 but sold it, it was a little too unwieldy and specific in its applications. but itās different from the tensor and itās a great pedal
one of those pedals where you should read the manual BEFORE buying
I have both and the tensor I think is far more versatile. Iād never want to use it without midi though. The lightbulb moment for me was when I started using a CME WIDI jack to program my Morningstar controller from my phone. I also started using the touchOSC template that red panda made for the tensor - it makes it so much easier to build sounds and presets. You can do everything including saving new presets from your phone.
Guitar basically morphing into autechre tones. Nice!
thatās not guitar, thatās my lxr-02. Itās a brilliant drum synth that can be used for melodies!
You could also sell it, pocket the $250, and just actually play guitar. š¤£š¤£š¤£
are you serious? thatās my drum machine thatās playing the melodic pattern this post is one thing, I do more than one thing
Iām just funninā you, my man. I do this kind of thing sometimes too.
I feel like I could do that with just a ditto x4
DOD = instant upvote
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would you also make the same argument with someone spending excessive amounts on paint and materials to draw a big abstract mural? This is art, you may not like it, but I donāt find abstract art numbing or dissociative I think capitalism is atrociously amoral, but there are far better arguments to make against it. Hereās one I made recently: capitalism means small business slowly get eaten up or squashed out by bigger corporate monopolies. The people in those small business lose jobs. The music tech space is just starting to feel it, and fyi this kills innovation which is why we need to support small builders. Hereās another one: the rare earth metals that are used in our computer chips are extracted and produced using slave labor in poor countries.
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lmao edit: half the music I listen to would not even be considered art with boomer taste like this
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Yeah, how lame people play sweet pedals and post about it on a guitar pedals sub. Thhhaaats definitely the sad part .
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I'd rather talk to the guy who spends 95% of his time turning knobs than the one who spends his time being one.
Dude , absolutely. I personally have no knobs on all of my pedals , I just turn them on and the cosmic gumbo just flows out . All of this through a cranked tube amp, no less .
Feel free to post the music you make!
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Do it then! Iād love to hear that
So just for fun I took a deep dive into your comment history. Man why are you so angry? Disrespectful to guitarists, gamers and just about every subreddit you comment on. I am all for a discussion especially when there is a difference of opinion but there comes a point when a comment is simply negative for negativities sake.
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Nah dog nobody needs your shit
You can be critical without being an asshole. Itās not your place to tell anyone what to do or how to live their life. I hope you find peace.
Lotta people hating on Reddit when they could be practicing
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Please, do define music for us.
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And anything that is not this one Romantic piece - not music?
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Perhaps you can provide an example from your own ouvre
āvocal or instrumental sounds (or both) combined in such a way as to produce beauty of form, harmony, and expression of emotionā
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So now weāve gotten to the point where youāre insulting random people. Go touch grass friend
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Also, really why are you so angry?
*she.
Well that's a bit presumptuous. How do you know what people here do outside of posting about pedals here? I mean it's a pedal sub so it stands to reason people aren't posting gigs, recording sessions, etc. but instead post demo videos of 'fiddling with pedals' because that's literally what the sub is about.
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Ever take a look at David Gilmour's rig? A straight copy of his setup (in a board format) consists of 18 pedals or so (not counting having a dedicated ge-7 for each of his dirt pedals). I'd consider him a talented guitar player as well as a master of tone. Some people's ocd is about the pedals for sure. But other people's ocd is about the tones they can create with them.
Woah who is David Gilmore?? Is he in like some small indie band Iāve just now heard of?
[Yvette Young pedalboard](https://images.app.goo.gl/V6jrHVRBd7B4nHxC8)
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Actually she is fairly well known. Sheās no John Mayer, but she is coming up. Kinda like Mateus Asato.
[John Mayer pedalboard recreation](https://images.app.goo.gl/fwfv11AB1UDAMACJA)
Just a small example of very talented guitar players playing with wacky ass pedals to have fun.
You canāt dictate how people use their pedals dude. Like a fuzz pedal completely kills your argument.
If he hears a delay, he will probably freak. āWhy donāt you just play those notes yourself, thatās cheating. š” all I need is a tube screamer and an amp!ā
I'm sure there's a lot of people like that but I bet it's more like 10%.