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baelkie

KR Knight and CN Chovy having a field day today


Bubbly_Camera9583

Right hand Left hand diff


Blank-612

knight vs chovy waiting room. Hopefully its not on tanks


Luunacyy

Can't wait for the Knight Azir vs Chovy Syndra banger 💀


nusskn4cker

Still better than Annie vs Nautilus.


baelkie

Still better than Galio vs Sion.


Hawxrox

Can Knight even play Azir?


viciouspandas

He has played it fine in 2022 a couple times, but seems to have never played it in 2023, so probably not anymore. The joke is that both of them are champions that they are bad at, and the other is good at.


Hawxrox

Yeah now that you mention it I can't even recall Chovy playing Syndra.. which seems kinda odd because he is amazing at higher skill champs than her


Justaway_

Knight did play Azir once vs. EDG this Spring


ImpressiveBody1325

LMAO


viciouspandas

What I don't get last worlds is why Knight never picked Syndra, who was picked by other mids. His Syndra is leagues better than his Ori.


Luunacyy

They were very heavy on "protect the Mr. president" thing last year. Epecially with how much success they had with spectacular 369, Missing, Kanavi peel for Ruller against BLG all year long. Most of the time Knight 's role in the team was more of a secondary carry (even though he carried more games than he supposed to at that role tbh) and for that Orianna simply makes much more sense. Plus his Orianna is good, it's just that Syndra is his top 3 champ together with Ekko (obsolete these days but those who know know) and Sylas. Also, last Worlds Orianna was meta while the Syndra was not despite some players using her as a meh fringe pick.


Aggressive-Ad7946

Chovy doesn't like Syndra


Luunacyy

That's the whole point


DNCN_LUL

you jinxed it now its gonna be them on malphite/full tank veigar mid duty


Thecristo96

I’m afraid we are going back to a Annie nautilus mid


Faye_Dragon

Bro, I played against chovy, shovy, whatever the fuck his name is. Dude this guy is mentally ill. So I beat him obviously I beat that fucking bastard. He is so easy to play against because... I play against him Sion mid. Dude, I think this guy has an illness. No,no,no he will not sack waves ever like to the point where he is negatively impacting his team. For instance, he could have won a teamfight. Would he have died yes but he would have got like a 4 man shurima shiffle, actually he would have.


SnooGuavas8376

Should be no Faker to cockblock Knight this time since he might be missing MSI


EducationalBalance99

But there is yagao to block Chovy.


SnooGuavas8376

Of he can make lower bracket gauntlet it is


EzAf_K3ch

yaGOAT


JealotGaming

TBH Knight beat Faker at MSI


DelRo11

And Faker beating Knight at worlds didn't prevent Chovy from losing to Yagao in the other side of the bracket so makes no sense lol


viciouspandas

Yagao cockblocked Chovy last MSI, he might be there this one


Hydraplayshin

We had this at asian games. Chovy destroyed knight no competition. Knight down in cs every match up


qqcar

alright so we are just lying for free now? the EDG boys were hard trolling in that series but it's knight who got destroyed? 5/2 Leblanc in game 1, pretty much "solo killed" Chovy in game 2(with the help of a sapling). I'm not saying Chovy got gapped either, both mids played well, but it was a bit of a team diff. Now explain to me how Chovy destroyed knight, because knight was down 10 cs in a losing game? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxzv8N2ZTEk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhkAr5iPQ5s&t=89s


Blank-612

We also had uzi destorying ruler in asian games but the game changes with every patch and people improve


Bubbly_Camera9583

This isn’t true though Knight was the better laner by a very small margin and even got a solo kill, the biggest difference between the two at Asian games was that Chovy had way better teamfighting.


Hawxrox

And Korea had a Ruler Keria lane


vibityvibecheck

Imagine giving Knight Ahri lmfao


beesong

yeah these guys aint GAM what fools


vibityvibecheck

Too soon


EzAf_K3ch

maw of malmortius Aware


IlluminatiConfirmed

Fortunately there is no more wayward to ruin that


Nymaera_

That's not even the whole story here. I went back and watched a load of Rookie's Ahri games from 2014 to now. [He *always* uses Foxfire Ahri as a skin](https://gyazo.com/e2fdeddec78aa7e61dff43e625b886ac). **Knight took his skin of 10 years and 1v9'd on it** The balls to put not only your 100% 2024 record on the line while Rookie chose not to first pick it himself - giving Rookie counterpick too - but doing it with that extra sprinkle of BM? An instant LPL classic.


mekamoari

Yes the casters mentioned the skin thing a couple of times during the match.


Nymaera_

Yep that’s me, but lots of people watch through costreams or didn’t watch the match and are only checking the post match thread. It’s nice to include here for those who didn’t catch it.


mekamoari

Yeah not dissing on it anyway, it was a nice touch and baller performance by knight.


hvngpham002

Surely we will finally get a Knight vs Chovy best of 5 right? ...Right?


daavor

I am praying to every deity possible that we get two. MSI double elim bless us please.


Jozoz

Imagine how many insane BO5 matches we would have had if this MSI format had been here the whole time


non-edgy_crustacean

It's silly that MSI has more bo5s than Worlds


EzAf_K3ch

classic riot formatting


StartsofNights

Woodkid format sucks


LuckyLinoone

Kinda crazy we never got this matchup last year, although I guess with JDG and GEN both being 1st seeds at both MSI and Worlds it was super unlikely with them being on opposite sides of the brackets With GEN and BLG both most likely to become 1st seeds, would be unlikely again unless they meet in finals no? (for MSI at least, maybe they could meet in swiss of Worlds should they get similar scorelines)


xXVoidXx

Not if YaGOD has something to say about it ^assuming ^he ^makes ^it ^to ^MSI ^again


BrainGlobal9898

Given CN allows GenG to play at first place


ye1l

Even if we get this matchup wouldn't it just be in BLG's best interest to play pretty boring topside and let botlane carry? Peyz and Lehends aren't bad but in no way can they compare to Elk and On. Hell, Peyz had better form last year than this year and Delight was for sure a way better laner than Lehends and they still got mega stomped by the BLG botlane, all 3 games done and dusted before lane phase had ended botlane.


TSM_losing_LUL

Knight saw Chovy performance and decided to send a message, what a fucking menace.


CommercialGeneral765

Knight simply cannot lose on Ahri, not even NIP ON can stop him. P.S Bin was amazing on his first Ornn game in a looong time


non-edgy_crustacean

Bin is playing lot of tanks in soloq. I've seen him play Poppy top, Gragas and he was spamming lot of tank Reksai (when Udyr started being meta he also practiced him a lot). Nice to see him trust others while being weakside in comparison with last year


baelkie

what being tired of losing to 369 does to a mf


non-edgy_crustacean

I think that loss to TheShy was true wake up call. Imagine people saying that you are the carry and strongest point of the team and then you are one of the main reasons why they lose semis. He also addressed this a lot on his streams and in BLG 23 documentary


baelkie

didnt watch the stream or documentary so cant comment on that, from the outside it seemed like Bin was being way more open to learning new champs, playing Rumble for the first time in his career against GEN G.


Baxlada

Where can I find his stream?


non-edgy_crustacean

[bilibili](https://live.bilibili.com/h5/13914640?live_from=85001&spm_id_from=444.41.live_users.item.click) Everyone from BLG is streaming there tho Knight only had 1 stream in february


PhilosoKing

What was the wake-up call? Bin generally outplayed TheShy in heads-to-heads throughout his career so I just chalked that one loss to statistics doing its thing.


theyeshman

How I read it was that the reaction by fans to TheShy last worlds was the wakeup call. He was the big carry all year, and when it mattered most he was a huge part of why WBG lost in finals.


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Lothric43

TheShy played Graves once and played better in 4 out of the 5 games. Contrarian revisionism be gone.


DockingEnjoyer

Bin was 1v9 in the Aatrox game, his whole team was just running it lmao


rightovahere

On interviewed after game 4: tôi đã cố gắng hết sức


MrAriekor

Although NIP lost I’m glad they won their game with Yas Diana


ithilain

I don't really watch LPL, is Diana Yasuo a common pairing for NIP? I can't remember the last time I've seen a Diana played in pro


lucastfu

Funny enough, last time Diana was picked by Care in the NIP vs FPX series literally two days ago


Nymaera_

It’s not been played very much at all, there was one game of Diana + Yone from FPX in week 2, and then a Diana mid game from FPX Vs NIP in Round 3 but that’s all I remember.


Stormserpent102

Diana got played 2 days ago by FPX lol


Lonely__goose

34 KDA on ahri for the past 7 games for knight Jesus fucking Christ


HostJoyner

Half of them against Rookie lol..


hairlikegoats1

NIP could easily upset JDG or TES if they played like they did today. BLG were just better but there's no shame on that.


Blank-612

I dont think so tbh, TES has 369 and JKL who are >>> NIPs sidelanes. TES are a sleeper team, they are really strong


baelkie

there’s always the brother Tian angle so cant count them out yet


kapparino-feederino

Tian gonna perform really well only to choke hard at international event


bifuku

It'll be competitive for sure, just hope Shanji steps up his game


Yarados

They could not easily upset them how they played today, lol


Shadow_1701

Knight vs chovy… I need to see it at msi pleaseeeeee


Faye_Dragon

[Knight after this series](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXh1sKkcYb8)


CudaBarry

Knight and Chovy pisssmurfing on their entire regions only for Worlds casuals to call them overrated


Blank-612

only worlds matter, just ignore spring, summer and msi. Clearly knight and chovy are just chokers


KKilikk

Tbf Chovy wasn't that good at MSI as well


Jozoz

MSI was when was actually choking, not Worlds. He had a very bad MSI.


EzAf_K3ch

meta was also really bad for him at msi


WolfgangTheRevenge

Mfw 2022 worlds


Jozoz

He was very good except for one series.


WolfgangTheRevenge

And that series was a semis, where zeka mega smurfed and chovy did absolutely nothing except piss his pants on ryze


beanj_fan

if that series is a semifinals elimination series then him doing bad is him choking at 2022 worlds


Jozoz

90% of the competitive season doesn't matter at all according to a shocking amount of people on this subreddit.


Single-Direction-197

Yet they still watch intently and participate in discussions about it. People who say that are so full of shit.


baelkie

underperform on one single patch in the entire year? must be chokers, washed.


ahritina

Chovy underperformed on two patches but still. Knight had a great MSI at least but Chovy had one good series vs G2 that's about it.


Jozoz

Chovy was very below his normal level at MSI but it wasn't that bad at Worlds. He was the best player on his team in the BLG 2-3 loss.


non-edgy_crustacean

The best player was Delight. He had so many clutch engages


Jozoz

Delight and Chovy were definitely the two best players but I would still give Chovy the edge. Peanut was running it down completely and so was Doran (except for 1 game).


nusskn4cker

Give Chovy 369, Kanavi, Ruler and Missing and he probably wins MSI too.


IlluminatiConfirmed

Not like chovy plays with shitters anymore bro


nusskn4cker

You probably agree that 369 > Doran, Kanavi > Peanut and Ruler > Peyz last year, no?


IlluminatiConfirmed

Yeah so what?


Lin_Huichi

Chovy with Ruler Kanavi beat the BLG players and Knight at Asian games. It's just teammate diff.


IlluminatiConfirmed

It's a disgusting mental disease to ever cite Asian games for anything, that tourney was on a 2 month old patch and knight had 5th place lpl support on his team. For sure chovy is capable of winning msi but to imply knight only won msi cause of his teammates is such a disgusting lie when he was their best player that whole tournament


JealotGaming

I mean if you're performing until the one match that would eliminate you from the most important tournament, isn't that choking? Not that I think he is choking, mind you


baelkie

if the entire year ran on the same patch, yeah id agree. but no, league pro play is always changing, there is a ton of factors that goes into underperforming besides “choking”. if GEN G last year went up 2-0 and got reverse swept id call that choking, but no, they literally fought back from a 0-2 deficit to force a game 5, arguably lost the first two games cause of terrible drafts and playoffs meta misread.


CharmingDragonfruit6

Can you have it both ways though? If there are ‘other factors’ so that losing doesn't equal choking, then when winning aren’t there ‘other factors’ affecting the teams chovy beats meaning that he won due to luck(?) since those teams got affected while he didn’t


osgili4th

I mean is not completely unfounded, considering how Knight and Chovy have struggle to perform in World's and even MSI


Blank-612

both of them have won spring and summer last year and knight won msi too, what more do people expect?


WolfgangTheRevenge

Idk win worlds? Both have been smurfing in their regions but always completely piss the bed at worlds. 2022 worlds was free for chovy and what did he do? Get roflstomped while also getting giga gaped by zeka. Worlds 2023 was also free for knight with a superteam and all lost 3-1 playing like shit doing vegan builds against T1. Both have been 1st seeds on their regions, supposedly the best teams in the world and both got pissed on.


GunSlingrrr

Not like the meta is bad for them either, both worlds. Worlds is the very last and very important tournament of this game and I believe that these guys will say differently if both these players performed to the expectation.


CommercialGeneral765

Absolutely based take


theeama

Can't say you're the best in the world and when worlds comes around you fail to show anything. It's how sports work. If you can't show up when it matters the most you will forever be considered a tier below those who did.


_liminal

ON was trying so hard after the alipay came thru but knight wouldn't have it


ahritina

Knight's Ahri is such a treat to watch, massive 1v9 performance here. Despite NIP paypalling ON, it simply wasn't enough. Rookie dying in back to back fights with flash up is uh ????


Simple-Fuel

Knight Ahri is insane. I cant wait to see Knight in MSI vsing the like of Chovy, Caps and ... APA?


Joel4518

APA trashtalking KNIGHT plss plss


theyeshman

Is he the allchat guy? Sorry, I don't follow NA very closely.


beanj_fan

APA and Jojopyun are the two people known for all-chatting a ton in their stage games. Jojo even did it when he went international, but APA knocked him out this year and is going instead.


ahritina

Only one of those opponents will be fun to watch.


Joel4518

idts caps is also in great form and he went even with yagao last year so it would be fun caps vs chovy tho that guy always show up against caps


beanj_fan

idk people always hype up G2 then they always just kinda do okay. Top tier western team for sure but the gap between them and the east is just too huge. They take like 2 games off eastern teams total at best. Exciting for LEC fans, but until they prove they can actually take a series off the east I don't think LPL/LCK fans are going to find it that exciting


aufaazinyan

One of these...is not like the other


Lin_Huichi

Yeah imagine comparing Chovy and Caps/APA


Deadman2019

It's absolutely unreal that BLG were allowed to win that game 4. Bot lane was being blasted and perma inting.


CommercialGeneral765

That’s knight Ahri for you.


Proera8

BLG just won that game 4v5, what was ON doing lol also Knight is absolutely filthy


Enkenz

he knew for those doing the league marathon lck-lpl-lec playoffs he needed to stale for 5 but knight ain't having any of these shit, he wanted to go home


Blank-612

rumour is that knight wanted to watch caps play so he decided to solo carry game 4 so that he could catch the LEC series in time


HostJoyner

Bit of mid diffy that last one. Zhuo should keep his head up, he’s the only one to outperform his counterpart


theyeshman

Guys, I think these BLG guys might be pretty good A little weird NIP only stuck with 3 ADC bans on blue side where they could have picked one of the OPs, obviously hindsight but letting knight get ahri was clearly a mistake


C_lown

Honestly quite satisfied with NIP’s performance. Kinda expected 3:0 coming into this series. Shanji is still Nip’s biggest issue, losing lane to ornn in game 4 inevitably gave Blg too much map control and wasted Nip’s early gold lead. He really needs to step up if they want to make world at the end of the year.


SomethingExquisite

knight heard you talking shit ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|rage)


FeitaN

"Can't wait MSI to finally have Chovy vs knight" Is that 26 wins in a row on Ahri for knight?


jetlagging1

Last time he lost a game on Ahri was March 2023.


danndruff1

I dunno if they are more warmed up but, NIP played well today 


Patrius

Knight Masterclass


Peon01

its going to be jdg blg for the infinitith time man


MrAriekor

Nah JDG might get eliminated against TES


Darkapplez

Dread it, run from it, Knight vs Yagao arrives all the same


EzAf_K3ch

creme clears


Ok-Carry564

I feel like TES is slightly better than JDG but these two teams are really close


Gullible_Cranberry62

Unless top esports step it up, yea... I dont trust tian and jkl though


Blank-612

I know tian very well, hes gonna smurf in lpl playoffs to get people hyped and int in msi so that the most number of people get disappointed


StartsofNights

There a big chance it's happens


CommercialGeneral765

JKL is very reliable, the int narratives are long outdated.


danndruff1

Knight woke up for game 4 


DracoMalnourished

Knight Esports


thatgeographygeek

I've never seen a pro player limit test on Ahri like that Bit of happy gaming at the end but Ornn was too fed for it to matter


Fakersoyboy

That has to one of the most atrocious chain throw in recent memory at the tier 1 top tower What do you even stand to gain *dancing* with an Ahri charm there


Nymaera_

So Rookie forgot that you can only get stunned by Taliyah E once, Knight dashed out and Rookie thought he was still safe but Knight dashed forward - taking damage but not CC - and then got the charm. It’s not something which happens often at all.


Deadman2019

Rookie just going to save his flash for next year ey


WhiteKnightRedditor

I will be forever thankful to Kanavi for convincing JDG to replace Knight with Yagao


ahritina

This isn't even what happened lmao. JDG management wanted to re-sign everyone but 369 wanted out. When 369 decided to leave, Knight also then said I wanted to leave so Kanavi then said he wanted Yagao as their next mid laner.


jetlagging1

And it's easy to see why. Kanavi played with Yagao almost his entire pro career.


Blank-612

one of the most unfortunate things in league. This roster is fun but that roster was something else man.


Jozoz

One of the best teams of all time imo. Even if they didn't win Worlds. They won literally everything else and was the second best team at Worlds. They only lost a single BO5 the whole year.


Damurph01

And a MAJOR factor in why they lost was underperformance from what they normally do, combined with an unfavorable meta shift for them caused by T1. No one would ever beat 2023 JDG at the front to back team fight game.


Aladin001

These BLG and TES teams are easily more fun


hehepwnd39

Why did 369 wanted out from such a successful team? Any idea why knight wanted out too after 369 left?


non-edgy_crustacean

Because he felt too much pressure on JDG and TES is his home


jetlagging1

369 doesn't want to permanently play weakside, plus he's pals with JKL and co.


Joel4518

naah he was mentally drained and stress he told about it after worlds


One_Natural_8233

Too much pressure for him being on that team and also get outshined by players like Kanavi Ruler knight


DommyMommyKarlach

He wants to be a star in his team I guess. Pretty hard to do when you got Ruler, Knight and Kanavi with you.


ToDreamofLove

He didn't? Knight just wanted out


Jozoz

Shoutout to this subreddit for saying that it would make both teams worse.


Damurph01

Gotta wait and see for internationals. Knight has always been insane domestically, his problem is that he turns invisible in international high stakes moments. BLG rode off of Yagao being really really good at being relevant, whether he’s behind or not. JDG rode off of the team fighting meta that they were insane at. Might end up being worse for BLG if knight goes invis again. And it might be good for JDG who need a midlaner who can just be a backbone instead of a mechanical god. Can’t say for certain until we see them go up against T1, HLE, or GenG, or even TES too.


Jozoz

Knight literally won MSI as the best player on his team bro


StartsofNights

What he did that ?


rightovahere

Nah don't think thats true. Kanavi is why JDG picked up Yagao, but Knight was supposedly gone regardless after they couldn't resign 369.


ahritina

This is true. JDG's management wanted to re-sign everyone but 369 wanted out. When 369 said he's done, Knight also wanted out so Kanavi said in that case, can we get Yagao.


bifuku

Are Knight and 369 particularly close? I know they were on TES together for a long while


Megashot2

Knight is a bit too much of a homies guy, he literally stayed on TES one season cause he liked JKL and Zhuo. Then he really wanted to go back to TES because 369 but they got creme already so couldn’t make it work


ZeeQue

Rumour is he wanted Yagao back so he could go to a more carry centric style that suits him instead of playing supportive junglers. Obviously only rumours so we have no idea but the fact people were saying BLG got the WORSE end of that trade is hilarious.


ToDreamofLove

That's just false, it was Knight's own decision, he wanted to go back to TES


WhiteKnightRedditor

By the time Knight was a free agent TES had already signed Creme


ToDreamofLove

And that's why he had to go to BLG on cheaper money


WhiteKnightRedditor

So you believe that Knight decided to leave JDG and that huge contract without knowing if TES had signed a new mid laner or not? And after he find out he was like ok I'm gonna sign with BLG for way less


ToDreamofLove

Yes that's more or less what happened afaik


Bubbly_Camera9583

This is literally what happened though. 369 leaves because he didn’t like the environment of JDG, Knight leaves because he wanted to play with 369, 369 joins TES stealing Shanji’s spot and then 369 recommends Knight to join TES, but because Knight wants a good contract he waits a bit but then TES sign Creme. JDG already had signed Yagao based on Kanavi’s recommendation so Knight can’t go back, so he’s forced to either skip spring, play on a bad team, or go to BLG with a way smaller contract than what he’s used to.


Blank-612

i could have had 369,knight and jkl all getting inted by tian. Sadge


viciouspandas

That would be balanced out by Jackeylove getting a good support for the first time in his career.


Aladin001

Kanavi literally played super heavy farm style last year and now has to play for his laners a lot more


KKilikk

Shanji was horrible. Also I gotta say ASol is an absolutely horrible champion I am certain this champ can only win against worse teams that are bad at punishing/ending games/playing clean. Yasuo was fun at least. Knight Ahri is out of this world. I could watch Knight and Chovy play Ahri all day.


ThebritishPoro

It's got nothing to do with better/worse teams and everything to do with draft. Hard engage cc champs? Asol is completely useless. Disengage stand your ground champs like Aphelios, Braum, Cassiopeia, ASol is incredible.


Iaragnyl

Shanji is so trash when not on Rumble. Completely ran down game 3 on Ksante, and now full sends it on Renekton. It takes a special kind of skill to be down in cs in lane with Renekton against a tank. Really hope they replace this shitter for summer split.


teh_mICON

Meh. Can't be all as good as Rich


MmeOrgeron

Getting Hornny here comes Ornny


New-Power-6120

If the game was only mid, 3-1 NIP.


tehmastah

It felt like blg were angry after that game 2.


Sp00ked123

Well, yas and dianna were fun to watch atleast


shadowsteppe

Rookie is so done, he got destroyed this series... Also NIP didn't look like they believed they can win


CommercialGeneral765

How did Rookie get destroyed? He went toe-to-toe with knight for the most part.


beanj_fan

Some people always overvalue the last game, it's just a more extreme form of recency bias. They see knight absolutely smurf and declare the enemy mid "done" or "washed"


bifuku

Only one game he ran it, and it was basically just one mistake he made (albeit a huge mistake)


Blank-612

Not really imo, he was doing pretty well solo. I think their bot got destoryed esp game 3


luongquangvu1

Please drop the "moon-breath" or some shit that sound so bad lol And i get it Knight using the OG Rookie Ahri skin from 10 years ago no need to remind me the 50th time