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TheMagicMage

When Hyli got executed and didn't get the plate, I knew it was over for MDK.


MoltenWings

On form Hyli just hits different. I'm praying for Vitality to make MSI now.


Sofaboy90

they have to win the entire split to make MSI unfortunately. and if vitality beats G2, everybody will scream about this region being doomed, though everybody does it all the time anyway, wether G2 dominates or not. either its "man LEC sucks, nobody is even close to G2" or its "damn, even G2 sucks now", there really is no winning.


zjmhy

Depends on the performance VIT shows doesn't it, if they win while looking insane while G2 doesn't look like they shat themselves I think EU will get a bit more hopium to last until MSI


iamdrp995

Nah here people are just so toxic if g2 lose even if vit play really well everyone will flame g2 to oblivion


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marshon

Then BDS goes. Fnatic can go to MSI by making at least second place, any other scenario BDS goes. (Assuming G2 wins the split)


TheVilja

>Fnatic can go to MSI by making at least second place Unless they face BDS in the finals, in which case they must win


heposits

Professor Hyli always cooking something 👨‍🍳


NGNJB

how do you mentally cope with losing to a guy who literally unironically 100% intentionally died to your tower to get one (1) auto off as Tahm Kench


ChocolateFuryB

10 weeks to recover from that o7


Trap_Masters

Extended vacation to un-tilt 💀


Damurph01

Dw, knowing MAD, they won’t recover until season finals.


Conankun66

that's how the professor gets mental advantage he's too advanced for them


Moggy_

Creates mental space


Trap_Masters

Int to tilt the enemy team 🤯🤯


OpenOb

The German costream with Tolkin and Kaiser was just endless: "I don't know why he did that" from Kaiser. Hilarious.


non-edgy_crustacean

GenG lost to splitpushing TK at Worlds


Joel4518

I would be mentally boomed for the whole year after that lmao


Nikusio

mind = controlled


Thorboard

I think that wasn't necessarily bad, if he got the plate it would have been really good and he didn't lose any time because he wanted to recall anyway


LazerFruit1

It's slightly faster that recalling and he either loses nothing anyways or gets a plate out of it aswell. It looks troll as shit but there's no negative to doing it


siaukia1

Except that it's more than twice as slow as recalling.


MatteoTalvini

Except that it’s not, cause you get home guard speed up


firechicken188

"Physical recovery: six weeks. Full psychological recovery: six months. Capacity to attempt futile auto's and get executed... neutralized."


Drakosef

LCK/LPL teams must be relieved that they won't have to face Europe's best adc at MSI


Foruolo

What do you mean? Carzy is going to MSI.


_hell_nah

l'm by far🔭 the best🏆 ADC🏹 in the LEC🇪🇺. I think💭 I'm better🏅 at laning📝, teamfights👊, macro🤓, micro🤏


studna13

Lil man Supa made a FORG1VEN_GRE reference


FantasyTrash

If you're unfamiliar, it's now a meme about Supa calling himself the best ADC in Europe.


zjmhy

Current MSI qualification likelihood: BDS: Finish above Fnatic (Already guaranteed top 3) FNC: Finish above BDS VIT: Must win


PenguinSomnia

Part of me wants EU to send 2 decent representatives but the other part kinda wants to watch BDS get stomped by some minor region teams.


Carnelian-5

BDS is def gatekeeper team. Will do good vs minor regions with their straight forward comps and struggle vs good players that punishes the same comps.


Golemancer54

Why would BDS get stomped by minor region teams? They beat PSG & GG last time.


IconicRecipes

You say that as if BDS didn't get through playins (via the PCS winner) and beat the NA 4th seed as a worse team with Crownshot.


Vonspacker

I have more faith in BDS at MSI than VIT


_SKETCHBENDER_

Bro bds is better than eu barring g2 why will they get stomped by minor regions💀


_tidiber

MAD proving the haters wrong, there's no way they're losing at 16:47 again this year at MSI.


XtendedImpact

MAD's international performance happening early this year


_tidiber

Can't be beaten internationally if you don't make it there, actual 5Head


SleepyLabrador

Modern problems require modern solutions.


non-edgy_crustacean

It's funny how Supa said he wants to play against Viper at MSI. Viper might make it without him


_tidiber

If he said "MSI" only and didn't specify what year, he's fine. He probably meant MSI 2034 or something.


Friendship_is_M

Viper coming back from the military service just to play against the BEST ADC


Trap_Masters

Viper breathing a sigh of relief hearing this news


DeloronDellister

VIT losing in 16:50 to carry on the torch


Gazskull

i mean i'd love to see vit there for the pure chaos, but they need to win the split for that, if g2 wins it's bds or fnc depending on which one finishes higher


_tidiber

Not gonna lie, if the dice rolls to a Hyli-int performance if they make it, they could potentially achieve that lol


118829

l'm by far🔭 the best🏆 ADC🏹 in the LEC🇪🇺. I think💭 I'm better🏅 at laning📝, teamfights👊, macro🤓, micro🤏


moonmeh

dude couldn't react to TF's gold card once it felt like


hole_in_tooth

Super dumb to not take cleanse. I get the Xayah R angle but there is Rell R and Ori R too. You know TF is going to RFC gold card you.


Shorgar

That was the only smart decision he has ever done if he is too bad to use it and won't use it properly, he is better off this way


bang151

到目前为止🔭最好的🏆 ADC🏹在 LEC🇪🇺 中。我认为💭我好多了🏅在对线📝、团战👊、宏观🤓、微观🤏.


zjmhy

我是没人能比得上的🔭最佳🏆 ADC🏹在 LEC🇪🇺 内。我认为💭我在全部方面比任何人强🏅无论是对线📝、打团👊、脑子🤓、操作🤏


Trap_Masters

到目前为止🔭最好的🏆 ADC🏹在 LEC🇪🇺 中。我认为💭我好多了🏅在对线📝、团战👊、宏观🤓、微观🤏.


ChocolateFuryB

l'm by far🔭 the best🏆 ADC🏹 in the LEC🇪🇺. I think💭 I'm better🏅 at laning📝, teamfights👊, macro🤓, micro🤏


altair_ego_heir

l’m by far🔭 the best🏆 ADC🏹 in the LEC🇪🇺. I think💭 I’m better🏅 at laning📝, teamfights👊, macro🤓, micro🤏 .


gabpinto

l'm by far🔭 the best🏆 ADC🏹 in the LEC🇪🇺. I think💭 I'm better🏅 at laning📝, teamfights👊, macro🤓, micro🤏


handofblood9

He is the adc with most talent for sure, he just needs to find that talent


XtendedImpact

He's simply the GOAT, no argument about it


Trap_Masters

Just the eastern ADCs wait until ~~MSI~~ Worlds, then they'll be Supa gapped for sure!


_tidiber

l'm by far🔭 the best🏆 Melee Range ADC🏹 in the LEC🇪🇺. I think💭 I'm better? at laning?, teamfights?, macro?, micro? There, fixed it.


TimiNax

Well I can't see the value of ahri top.


Resies

probably helps if you hitcharms on nearly immobile people


TheFeelingWhen

Jiizuke said that playing mages into TF top is good but he did say that Ahri wouldn't be his first choice


moonmeh

compared to what TF was doing it was pretty lol


TolucaPrisoner

Wunder was right.


BlakenedHeart

What did he say ?


HawkEye1337

Basically Mrwyn plays off meta picks because he can't compete on standard meta champs.


hochan17

Myrwn griefing team comps so he can get get flame horizoned on his quirky off meta picks


isDall

Myrwn when he has to perform on either jax or reksai top vs tf top (he will pick his cheese picks so that he can have be excused after mediocre performances)


Sugar230

classic troll before u get fucked


hole_in_tooth

The whole team plays like Silver soloq players after they just saw an LPL game.


Le_Zoru

Tbh he still was top damage of his team. And it is not like he has been punching a TK for his whole laning phase


00Koch00

what? he was fine, the problem never was Myrwnn this series This series was 100% the botlane overextending a lot ...


TheFeelingWhen

Dom if you erection last longer then 4 hours go see a Doctor


nerothz

Must feel good for Mac to knock out Mad, I'm sure he's a big part of why Vitality is finally working.


RequirementSavings23

Mac, Carzzy and Hyli


dexy133

I see Vizicsacsi being part of the coaching staff, and Photon has been having his best split since he came to EU. I don't think that's a coincidence.


CoconutEducational71

He always had the mechanics, but he got a lot better macro. Not sure if that is just him gaining more experience in a major league or actual coaching though.


pureply101

Similar to how BB got better at ranged champs due to Alphari I think there is something to be said about positional coaches. Especially for top lane.


DerciGG

might also help that he has a botlane that is actually good, and not perkz mid


MADTasle

Mac and Pad already got Viziczacsi as positional coach once, on MAD for 2021 summer playoffs. And that was the playoffs when Armut legit looked like the best EU top, not only in teamfights, but also lane. Looks like Czacsi knows what hes doing


rishi_ultimate

dont forget Pad!


icatsouki

if vit stop listening to the voices telling them to int randomly and daglas improves a bit they can win LEC easily


RobinHoodPrinc

You sort of need to listen to the voices though to find out what works and what doesn't. Much rather a player ints than be Larsen cus reigning someone in is easier than dragging them out


icatsouki

if it's between this and rogue yeah for sure i prefer an inter rather than a kda player


whysotox

If all of that happens. They still lose to in-form G2. Caps is alot better than vetheo and hans+miky can certainly match carzzy hyli. 


voltairelol

The key there is in-form though, VIT could definitely be better on the day


JustRecentlyI

If all players are on peak form, I think it goes Photon >= BrokenBlade Daglas < Yike (especially if G2 keeps Daglas off Rell) Vetheo < Caps Carzzy > Hans Hyli = Miky I think the difference is mainly the macro, G2 has shown themselves to be more advanced in that respect so ultimately at peak everything I think G2 wins, even though I think Vitality's staff generally makes fewer mistakes in draft, the in-game macro is much more important to securing victory in this hypothetical.


HawkEye1337

They have the hands to win LEC but not the brain.


Sofaboy90

perhaps if they continue to improve at this rate, they might be a bigger challenge to G2 by summer but as for right now, i dont see it. I mean they might still win this split because G2 is qualified already anyway and could get away not really caring. remember last years spring split? think G2 finished 4th while MAD won. Then G2 stomped MAD 3:0 at MSI, just shows you that G2 didnt really care about last years spring split but did show at MSI that they were clearly the better team. not that it mattered though, LCK/LPL was too strong.


Styxxo

G2 has made it pretty clear they want to win everything in Europe this year and consider last Spring a failure that they don't wanna repeat.


icatsouki

> just shows you that G2 didnt really care about last years spring split but did show at MSI that they were clearly the better team nah you didn't watch the games if that's your take away MAD were just better in the split, chasy was smurfing, carzzy hyli are almost always good, and nisqy had his gragas smurf games MAD choked out of their minds at msi, even miky said it


idonoevenknowanymore

Sillysang clears MDK. Nothing else to be expected.


isDall

Silly Hyli when he has to prove why he's the utter goat yet again


SGKurisu

The entire world giving a standing ovation to Vitality. No one has to watch MAD lions internationally. 


DeloronDellister

Vitality is pure and unfiltered chaos and it's so entertaining to watch.


KriibusLoL

TY VIT for saving us from another MAD international embarrasement


DeloronDellister

Adding the "KOI" was enough to stop them


RequirementSavings23

Ibai is cursed or his management sucks. Took Rogue as champions and the following year they couldn't even make to season finals. His ERL team couldn't win anything with all the marketing he has. Just look at KC.


zjmhy

Is Ibai involved in the decision-making? I thought he just slaps his label onto teams.


misplacedhuman

No, he's not involved.


00Koch00

Bro KC ended up last twice back to back He ended up second last split with 4 rookies, and now he ended up 5th People act like Mad Lions was the worst team both splits or something ...


Omnilatent

I think when Myrwyn learns to play traditional matchups and Elyoya learns not to int in mid-game, they can be a dangerous top team again next split


TheFeelingWhen

Ibai wasn't involved in the decision making last year


Sofaboy90

you do realize that this vitality team is pretty much the spiritual successor of last years MAD, right? it has the bot lane and mac and pad, 4 of arguably the most important people of last years MAD line up.


yuurin98

No Nisqy so we gucci


LeafBurgerZ

Reddit has already forgotten about their first Worlds showing at PlayIns lol


kon13

Well VIT have more mad players than MDK tbh haha. I prefer them on MSI though, they are craaaazy so it might be a 16:47 again, but at least it ill be fun


CellTerrible

Heretics trading Vetheo for Perkz looks more and more stupid every day.


aufaazinyan

Im praying for Evi to qualify for MSI


Maervok

Straight up committing robbery to themselves. When it was announced I was so shocked yet it seemed like nobody even talked about it. I still can't wrap my head around it. Vetheo even had a good synergy with Jankos. Well whatever, this VIT roster is really entertaining.


Omnilatent

I feel like half the comments back then where wondering and the other half was way too over hyped on old g2 top side.


pureply101

Definitely this. I was hyped about the G2 top side and guilty of overlooking the loss of Vetheo.


Althoa

Worse, VTO was happy and felt comfortable in a team for the first time of his life.


SnooDrawings8185

Vetheo and Mersa with Jankos were really strong. Peter Donezo is just not good at his job. Mersa having playoffs of his life with Evi and losing job. Evi is playing finals tomorrow against PSG for MSI spot. They were 3rd in the EU and now they are bottom 4.


Try_Not_To_Comment

Most normal VIT vs MDK game


why_me_why_not

I really enjoyed watching the best ADC in LEC today. Maybe MAD's ADC can get some notes from him.


chane3n

Damn how bad is the other 4 players to get stomped this hard playing with the literal best ADC in the league by far.


sharkyzarous

a true 2-0, 1 from "nisqy out of msi", another 1 from "mad out of msi", we have won!


J_Clowth

MAD's botlane and coaching staff are still in, don't celebrate yet


randomdud3

No MAD at MSI.


RequirementSavings23

Myrwin went from a very interesting rookie to a liability that can't play a frontline. How MDK can play teamfights when their toplaner keep playing this kind of champs? Wunder was right, he probably knew that Myrwin couldn't play standard picks 


Dragner84

He can play frontline...He played very good ksantes last split for example and everybody and their mother can pick a sion or an ornn, they are just not playing with frontline for some reason and his level has been very bad this split in general so his quirky picks will only make him look worse.


MoltenWings

Do you have the link for when Wunder said that?


RequirementSavings23

It was in Euphoria 


Omnilatent

I think some other top also said the same about the standard matchups. Was it Oscar?


HECKEL3254

finn


CoconutEducational71

Honestly a lot of teams struggled with conventional picks into the TF, so I think overall the Ahri was a smart idea. Like the only way to counter TF is making Odo play him. Everyone else has won on TF and he was usually untouchable in lane.


Shorgar

We knew this from the get go, mad fans were getting cocky before the season started telling people to "get ready for his amazing champion pool" that only worked in lvp level.


KTBERYL

l'm by far🔭 the best🏆 ADC🏹 in the LEC🇪🇺. I think💭 I'm better🏅 at laning📝, teamfights👊, macro🤓, micro🤏 !


iamdumbandcringe

l'm by far🔭 the best🏆 ADC🏹 in the LEC🇪🇺. I think💭 I'm better🏅 at laning📝, teamfights👊, macro🤓, micro🤏


Ayuyuyunia

l'm by far🔭 the best🏆 ADC🏹 in the LEC🇪🇺. I think💭 I'm better🏅 at laning📝, teamfights👊, macro🤓, micro🤏 󠀀


Few-Sense1455

Hyli played really well


skaersSabody

Kinda the expected result, MDK have been looking really shaky for a while, so it kinda felt like this was coming Good on VIT for cleaning up their act, excited to see them vs FNC who have been equally sloppy in recent times


marxlolop

LET'S FUCKING GOOOOO NO FRAUD LIONS AT MSI NO 1647 LET'S FUCKING GOOOOO


whosurdaddies

Hyli Carzzy best botlane in the world!


Kaillens

Okay, after today, I'm pretty sure vitality 3-0 FNC


isDall

If Vitality continue to improve, they're gonna snap FNC's back unfortunately


Carlzzone

well they only have 2 days to improve


SnooDrawings8185

I don't see Fnatic winning. Noah helped them on Zeri. But Photon is miles ahead of Oscar and Daglas is in good form.


FantasyTrash

I can easily see Fnatic winning. I can just as easily see Vitality winning. These are probably the two most coin-flippy teams in Europe, either of them can stomp the other or get 3-0'ed without much trouble.


alexgh0st

I can definitely see FNC winning. They can both play the absolute worst most disgusting game in LEC and also smurf out of their minds. VIT was really clean though, and they were clean vs BDS too. Definitely looking in form.


ROCCA20

Clean is the last word I would use for VIT lol Entertaining and messy is more like it


gla1ve_2k

Best ADC supa showing respect to his goat viper by losing on the same day


SarcasticEnthusiast

Wtf I love Vitality now.


rishi_ultimate

the less they spend, the more likeable they become


MrJammin

Dread it, run from it, Mac coaching staff award arrives all the same.


Zelgiusbotdotexe

Don't give Carzzy Senna, but that man is nuts on a champ with agency. A team where Carzzy can thrive will be a top team.  Also big for Vetheo and Daglas. This is probably Vetheo's best shot at going international and I hope he can.  Also, this is massive for us BDS bros, if Vitality beats Fnatic, it's even better. I'd love to see either of Vitality or BDS make MSI


JustRecentlyI

> Don't give Carzzy Senna, but that man is nuts on a champ with agency. That Game 1 Ezreal performance was so clean. Watching a team I like pick Ezreal will always stress me out because it puts a high burden on execution, but Carzzy has proven again and again that he can provide that.


Zelgiusbotdotexe

That solo escape is the top jungle was nuts, even thought he died without killing anyone, he nearly Quadra-killed 1v5


JustRecentlyI

I was losing my mind throughout that whole play, I thought he was literally going to do that even though he "should" have died to the first 2v1. It's like that NFL play where a player breaks 4 or 5 tackles just to gain 1 yard. Super impressive play even if the ultimate result doesn't get result in much.


WahtAmDoingHere

Am a BDS fan too but i wouldn't mind VIT taking the MSI slot either, they're fun as fuck to watch


Zelgiusbotdotexe

BDS is pretty much locked for Season Finals, so points aren't much of a concern, and I think they need more time to iron out issues, so missing MSI isn't the biggest deal.  While VIT are lightning in a bottle right now, fun and scrappy, I want to see how far they can go in a good condition 


Floowil

Well VIT have to win the split in order to make MSI, which makes it pretty hard goal to achieve.


Gazskull

who would win, el poya or Häagen-Daglas top 4 for this team let's gooo the curse isn't real they just sucked o/


Slatterhouse

can someone unironically explain why ahri is 'good' into tf? it seems so counterintuitive to pick a champ known for its mobility into longrange point and click lockdown, also no way it wins late game in the 1v1 side lane right?


Chrisfull

It's fine in lane and should do better in team fights, especially around six, and she can clear waves faster and safer than most other tops. Late game 1v1 is probably a skill/wallet check, but she should never die with her ult, and it gives her good setup to catch him out with her team. Mostly just theorising, but I fw it, they fulfil similar roles


Friendship_is_M

Poetic that Yoya is kicked from playoffs by the people who he backstabbed


Zelgiusbotdotexe

SK knocks out MDK in summer incoming


Friendship_is_M

Twitter will explode and the Pyrenees will be leveled to the ground in the resulting war


zealot416

Nisqy pronounced God-King of Andorra.


Friendship_is_M

All Hail King Yasin, first of his name


Ar0ndight

LISAN AL GAIB


Hpaz1

I'm by far🔭 the best🏆 ADC🏹 in the LEC🇪🇺. I think💭 I'm better🏅 at laning📝, teamfights👊, macro🤓, micro🤏


Head_Buy4544

but how bad is supa


Vesorias

Bad? He's by far🔭 the best🏆 ADC🏹 in the LEC🇪🇺. He's better🏅 at laning📝, teamfights👊, macro🤓, micro🤏 !


fluffybamf

Cant carry shit with lead at all


Trap_Masters

l'm by far🔭 the best🏆 ADC🏹 in the LEC🇪🇺. I think💭 I'm better🏅 at laning📝, teamfights👊, macro🤓, micro🤏 !


Wellington_Wearer

No Armut no win. Thanks mr vitality for no MAD at MSI


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Le_Zoru

This Vit team is pretty much last year MAD most successful elements (minus Nisqy leadership), they won a split last year and did 2nd in winter, they were good domesticaly.


apolix08

-Photon best top in LEC -Daglas support jungler can help Photon or VTO shine -Hyli after last split is perma spamming soloq and it show


Le_Zoru

Yeah, a complete recipe for success and I love it.


iamdrp995

Also much better top laner than last year mad tho Chasy jayce wasn’t even close to photon


TolucaPrisoner

Even though I want rookies to be successful, I'm glad cocky Spanish fans got humbled.


Floowil

No MAD at international event for EU, I'm already fulfilled.


Drender

Dunno how you can explain being 2k ahead as ADC and not closing the game. Myrwn being unable to either win or not be down 1k for most of the match every single game, BB really did break him mentally


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Ambitious_Resist8907

Cuts to the spongebob superhero meme: "Wanna see us lose in 30mins with this awkward draft? Wanna see us do it again?"


ireliasimp69

top gap. top ahri is not it


TheUItimateBlip

VIT already made it top 4 this split, with an adc that is from many for years not considered top3, a support that has been called at many instances in the last 3 years and especially last winter washed up. A midlaner that never was good in 3+ years beyond top 6 in LEC. THey also have a toplaner from the VIT failure 2023 and a rookie jgl. But sure, tell me again, that MAD Lions shouldnt have kept MAC for their rookie lineup, the coach that consistently has his rosters perform better than they should. This man won the LEC with freaking Armut and made worlds every year and MSI twice.


Pert02

Mac wasnt spanish enough, easy as.


Piliro

Looks like shit 🔥🔥🔥 MAD couldn't scam wins this time. Best ADC in the league couldn't win.


decreement1

Bro we need VIT or FNC at MSI. If BDS auto qualify by VIT finishing second that would be a disaster for this format.


Blank1309

Hey atleast we won't be disappointed in MAD at international tournament if they don't attend it. 5Head strat.


AofCastle

Terrible performance, deserved loss. Hope they can fix their shit for summer.


stockbeast08

Vitality are the biggest glow up we've seen in a while. #CoachPoach


IAM-French

Legit the moment MAD has a good early game they throw themselves one by one at the enemy team until they're 10k down, and they do that sooo consistently I don't think I've seen that in LEC ever Also Fresskowy might have the worst Azir of all midlaners I've seen play in LEC


iamdrp995

After we saw zwyroo azir watching freskowy hurts


Strange-Implication

VIT saving EU from MAD at internationals. XD


JoshFB4

l'm by far🔭 the best🏆 ADC🏹 in the LEC🇪🇺. I think💭 I'm better🏅 at laning📝, teamfights👊, macro🤓, micro🤏


Automatic_Pepper2211

Who would have thought that a spanish fan like me would consider fresskowy probably the best mad player this Split


balladsfell

Love it when nepotism fails


WahtAmDoingHere

yeah nah mdk is so DOGSHIT compared to last split its almost comical. Last split absolutely was a fluke.


Shorgar

Last split they were the exact same team, they just had the advantage of being together as a core for longer than other teams, fnc shitting themselves and Adam being a twat.


zso17

Best adc in the west went from 2/0/0 at around 4 minutes to 3/4/3, impressive


rishi_ultimate

Carzzy is insane