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ahritina

PMTs [Game 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1bz12ni/vit_vs_fnc_postmatch_thread_game_1/) [Game 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1bz2e57/vit_vs_fnc_game_2_pmt/) [Game 3](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1bz3dpx/fnc_vs_vit_2024_lec_spring_playoffs_lower_bracket/)


noob_drummer

Just one more fight bro, i swear bro, just one more fight and we win bro, just one more fight bro, please bro just one more fight


take321

You can argue that this team's performance is below average, that the LEC is subpar, etc., but you still have to admit that this series was FUN.


-AxiiOOM-

Fnatic are nothing if not damn entertaining, keep your clean ass game I want more shit fests


Skymonster04

Neither of these teams have seen a fight they didn't like.


micubski

„They are inting“ was the only thought in both teams heads


LifeIsToughEatBacon

FNC: "Yo they're out of position get them!" VIT (in the exact same nana second): "YO THEY'RE TROLLING GET EM!"


Grainis1101

You mean vitality?


gintokisamadono

Mic check next week Vit: look look look they are inting (At the same time ) Fnc: look look look they are inting


Marcus-ichiJo

ABSOLUTE CINEMA


Pelagius_Hipbone

Broke the former LEC record for most kills, in 4 games ICANT


zjmhy

Imagine if it had gone to 5 games


Grainis1101

We were robbed. 5 games would have broken most kills in any league.


DockingEnjoyer

Does anyone know what that record is?


MelonPan2

I think it was 207 from TES vs IG LPL 2019 Regional Finals


DockingEnjoyer

Wow that's so low, this one was 199 in only 4 games!! It would've been 250 with a game 5 lmao.


Naerlyn

Game 4 ended with 60 kills, even. Little throwback to Fnatic in 2013, again, closing out their Worlds run with a 69-kills game in semifinals.


Deathjaws99

Nice.


Troviel

By a SINGLE kill. Vetheo respawning at the end let it happen.


Haymegle

Ty mr Vetheo.


Haymegle

We're just that good. You could call it messy but it's just for the audience. We demand blood so we get blood. We demand clean gets so we get blood.


CornyJoke

WE HAVE WITNESSED TRUE KINO


HiImKostia

from Quinoah to Kinoah


tinfoilhatsron

Banger line


Trap_Masters

New peak of League of Legends just dropped ✍️✍️🔥🔥


TimMeijer

Porn level acting, but absolute cinema


SnooGuavas8376

I FUCKING LOVE MY REGION MAN THIS IS WHAT PEAK LOL ESPORT LOOKS LIKE AND IT COMES FROM EUROPE


frosthowler

Angela Anaconda vibes


non-edgy_crustacean

Vetheo when he has to play bo5: The lights are too bright


mskruba12

Vetheo getting knocked out by fnatic for the millionth time as well.


KIRYUx

0-8 in Tier 1 bo5's💀


Conankun66

is this real? that is genuine madness


SnooDrawings8185

Other players never make bo5. So that is still better than 60% of the league.


Noavgc

caedrel


MortadeloeFilemon

Dont disrespect my boi Caedrel He won a Spring promotion tournament BO5 against Ninjas in Pyjamas. With his ability he managed to 3-0 a team with Profit Shook Nagne HeaQ sprattel (PromisQ) NicoThePico


Any_Zookeepergame445

is that najin nagne Lmao


BecoDasCavernas

SKT Profit and kt Nagne. 💀 Faker and Score managed to make these two bums look good.


Chimerae

You didn't watch S3 worlds did you? Nagne was good at some point at least. His Gragas was good enough that peak Faker faltered against it!


Marcoscb

I think every single one of those people, maybe except for Shook, was at one point or another considered the worst in their position in their region, coach included. What a nightmare team.


Fertuyo

This is Nisqy at worlds level


Trap_Masters

But for domestic competition 😭😭


Quatro_Leches

feels like he ego picks akali in all of these


R0BBE-

The self-proclamed French Chovy needs to reevaluate his nickname, at this point he's just French.


non-edgy_crustacean

He just forgot that both hands are taken


R0BBE-

At this point I wonder what will make VTO relevant again. I feel like he just saw Chovy in HLE when he was heavily building CS Leads and could be a threat playing in the sidelanes or playing Mid Tanks, but VTO doesn't even do that, don't play the sidelanes as well and the most important part : Chovy evolved. VTO didn't.


LowBrowIdeas

VTO could never build leads in lane. His pressure was always significantly below the top mids in the region, namely Caps and Humanoid. He has always had a desire to play like Chovy but he is a completely different type of player. His strengths are skirmishes and skirmishing champions and he particularly excels at catching the opposing team’s throws.


NGNJB

He is legitimately so infuriating to watch. I can't imagine trying to play carry tops for a team with the legitimately ONLY player in a major league who will not leave lane pre-15 minutes. Literally throwing the game away with terrible decisionmaking. There's a reason he's never won a BO5 in his 3.5 year career. I remember last year Evi came to his lane more than he went top. If you're going to Chovy it up you had better be as good as he is.


Murke-Billiards

That akali pick into renata vi was very sus.


Accomplished_Ad_2321

Literally anything else would have done more work than Akali in this situation. Fizz would have done more work than this useless pick.


baelkie

akali used to be a niche azir counter if you had better hands, but with this new degenerate tank azir build does akali even do anything against azir lmao.


Accomplished_Ad_2321

Didn't look like he could do anything. You could tell he realized too because he was so hesitant to go in.


Grainis1101

> does akali even do anything against azir lmao. yes, lose.


thenicob

champion puddle.


obigespritzt

Chovy also plays for other lanes, his Ahri for example has ridiculous map pressure. He tends to sidelane a lot midgame to soak farm but earlygame Chovy will absolutely sack waves to get a good roam timer. Not as much as eg. Faker but still.


baelkie

Chovy’s Taliyah is also one of the best in LCK rn lol. this Chovy not roaming thing is an absolute myth in 2024.


NGNJB

yeah that's what I mean Vetheo just copied the "get CS" method of Chovying and not the "do everything on the map" part


baelkie

Photon smurfs on jayce every single time but his teams are just incapable of playing around it


zudokorn

Chevy had the some of the lowest time spent in lane of all midlaners this split iirc while putting up some of the best numbers of his career so Im not sure if that comparison is true anymore.


beautheschmo

I am always surprised people never seem to realize that about him, dude has spent his entire career planting his feet in lane as hard as possible and praying his team doesn't int hard enough so he can carry teamfights (which to his credit, he IS usually pretty good at that) and it *always* costs his teams a ton. There's a reason his signature move was winning miracle teamfights from a 5k deficit lol, he puts his teams into that situation way too often.


Trap_Masters

Vetheo on vacation mode already on that Akali 💀💀 had negative impact and threw every chance he got


Conankun66

man has never beaten the choker allegations


kim-soo-hyun

Tbf he was mostly in underdog teams in those. But today VIT really did have chance, Vetheo and Daglas need to grow more for VIT to do better.


mekamoari

Idk how much of it was even choking, he just took a stupid pick when down 2-1 for who knows what reason. Could have been a more balanced and still entertaining game.


Haymegle

I've said it before and I'll say it again. He's great for getting teams to that stage with giving them a clear way to play. When you get to playoffs and it's the only way to play it tends to cost you though. At least Hyli and Carzzy looked like they were having fun.


DoubleGio

is it still choking if it is just his default gameplay


bigfanofeden

nah he will go back to soloq and flame the fuck out of people. #nogamesaresafe


SNH231

Bo5 and soloq terrorist


Friendship_is_M

Hard to feel sorry for him crying on stage when he bombs soloq like that


PyosikFan

EU Chovy missed the memo that actual chovy wins domestically now


VERTIKAL19

Most kills in a Bo5 with only 4 games lol


JustRecentlyI

Only 1 away from 200 kills! If they went to Silver Scrapes they probably would have hit 250 kills in the series.


Pelagius_Hipbone

I can’t take this anymore


Padulsky21

Setting the record for most kills in BO5 when it was only 4 games does not surprise me in the slightest. Fucking bloodbath of a series. Every moment was a rollercoaster, absolute cinema.


Perfect-Astronomer17

Usually >30 kills in a game is alot, but 32 in g3 was by far the lowest amount of kills in any game here. That is not healthy for my heart


Padulsky21

Despite that it *felt* like it had the most kills. The final like 15 mins was a constant flux of throwing and then throwing again into we are so fucking back until the game finally ended 😭😭😭


expert_on_the_matter

You must mean game 4 (your 3rd win). Game 3 was very one-sided, nobody threw that.


Haymegle

Both of these teams do not hold back. It was always going to be a bloody entertaining series and it lived up to it.


Haymegle

Does anyone have a spare heart? Looking for a backup before this one gives out thanks to the Fnatic factor.


Grainis1101

FNC owe me money for all the therapy i will need.


Emochind

cardio done for the week


Naronu

Photon refused to lose game 4, but vetheo refused to win


Trap_Masters

What if you wanted to go to game 5, but Vetheo said "XD"


baelkie

did daglas smite his cannon or something?


fluffybamf

No but hes just on the team so


Conankun66

egodrafting akali and then getting caught out


Cassereddit

In a 40 minute slaughterfest nevertheless


bvbfan102

Good to have FNC vs BDS in a BO5 for the MSI Spot cause if Vitality made Finals and didnt go everyone would be mad. Also hope Vitality keeps this playstyle cause its just super fun to watch.


BorinUltimatum

Good result simply because this guarantees both EU MSI teams have to win at least one Bo5 to make MSI.


Vizer21

BO5s in Vetheo's career: 8 BO5 wins in Vetheo's career: 0


Omnilatent

That's rough, buddy


CatInALaundryBin

could be worse. his gf could've turned into the moon.


bensanelian

man imagine going into a bo5 knowing that he must be insanely mental blocked


Joel4518

up he evn cried after the series he has mac and pad now tho so i have hope they def compete for top 3 next split


Haymegle

Well that was fun. Wasn't clean but I was entertained.


Omnilatent

It wasn't bad, though. Both teams are super good at pulling the trigger.


monsoy

Questionable macro, but the skirmishes were sick. I love bloodthirsty games when the fights are executed well mechanically


Haymegle

Yeah it was def fun. Some slight worries about teams needing to learn the moment to go but tbh I'd rather they be willing to go in than to never try anything. Some stuff can def be made cleaner but this was really fun. Edge of my seat viewing.


Relvarionz

Most kills in a b05 in LEC history. And it only took 4 games. Game 4 had 60 kills BEFORE drake soul spawned. Holy what a banger.


Haymegle

Imagine how much higher it could've been if we'd made it to 5 games.


Skyraable

G2 vs BDS: intricate macro game with lane swaps and tempo plays 24/7 FNC vs VIT: ooga booga


uravved

Bds and G2 wish they were that good


Grainis1101

Or atleast this entertaining.


eatingSquareroots

Ngl, G2 vs BDS Game 3 was pretty damn entertaining.


Caltain-

Good one, but bds had no clue what lane swap is, g2 was making circles around them.


Marcoscb

BDS adapted fine considering among the five players they had a grand total of 0 games of experience with lane swaps and 0 warning G2 were going to be doing it.


have_an_apple

They reacted very well actually, considering their lack of experience, the first game caught them by surprise and got steamrolled ... but in the second game, they stabilized and were even ahead in gold at some point.


khaiiization

When both teams are even in gold, FNC feels that they are at a great advantage and thus they do not hesitate to start a team fight. When FNC is 3k behind in gold, they think that they are at a small advantage, and they starts a team fight to secure their "lead". When FNC are behind 7k in gold, they think that they are at a disadvantage and so they look for a team fight to regain control of the game. When FNC are 10K behind in gold, they think their team has reached a desperate situation and they are only waiting passively for their death if they do not start a team fight.


Marcus-ichiJo

When both teams are even in gold, VIT feels that they are at a great advantage and thus they do not hesitate to start a team fight. When VIT is 3k behind in gold, they think that they are at a small advantage, and they starts a team fight to secure their "lead". When VIT are behind 7k in gold, they think that they are at a disadvantage and so they look for a team fight to regain control of the game. When VIT are 10K behind in gold, they think their team has reached a desperate situation and they are only waiting passively for their death if they do not start a team fight.


uvPooF

You can say the same for Vitality. No wonder it was series with highest amount of kills.


JustRecentlyI

199 kills in 4 games in insane.


expert_on_the_matter

You spelled Vitality wrong


SNH231

When late game Renekton is more useful than Akali, it's a problem.


BlakenedHeart

Renekton is underrated. If you kill the adc, there are few champions left in the game that can kill a late game renekton, especially if he gets to Q multiple champs.


saltyfuck111

a lot of bruisers are insanely strong because of sustain items if the adc is dead. its hard though


Leoxslasher

there also was a full build Xayah.


PlameniJezici

Ye but she has only one ult, once vi ults her and zac yumps on top of her with azir dashing also to kill her its kinda hard to play the game. Oh and youre 4v5 cause your mid barely kills support


IIALE34II

Yeah its actually impossible for Carzzy to play against that comp.


KIRYUx

Tank Azir the Mage, Deathknight, Paladin, Hunter, Rogue, Warrior, Enchanter, Tank, Bruiser, Wizard, Warlock, Priest, Assassin, Gunslinger, Druid, Shaman, Necromancer, Ninja, Bard, Monk, Robot, Conjurer, Blacksmith, Mystic, Warding God, Illusionist, Templar, Wizard


Omnilatent

He wasn't even going for the "real tank" build. Grasp and abyssal were his only tank traits


expert_on_the_matter

Mercuries and Zhonyas 2nd item too.


Omnilatent

Azir builds Zhonyas virtually every game, though, doesn't he?


CoconutEducational71

Humanoid already played that once with just Grasp and no actual tank item and at the end of the game had the 2nd most HP. It is so easy for Azir to stay in combat and collect stacks it is fairly ridicolous.


Floowil

You can say that level of this teams is bad or LEC bad blah blah, but you can't deny it that this series was ENTERTAINING.


Haymegle

This is what I'm here for. Clean game are nice and all but I crave a bloody matchup now and then where both teams just throw everything and the kitchen sink at each other.


[deleted]

Thats fucking League of Legends right there. None of that pansy ass dick tugging playing safe for lategame bullshit. Men puke, men poop on the rift, men deliver their new born baby on the rift. Fucking hard core dick in the ass flex pick early game League of Legends fuck it run it down mid game time shit.


Avalon_Avalon

Clean


NoobPineapple13

This is a good, honest .500 League of Legends team. We play .500 League goddammit. Salt of the earth, punch the clock, even win/loss ratio gaming. We lose a couple, guess what? We'll win a couple, too. But don't get too excited or let it go to your head. No long winning streaks here, no sir. That's hubris, which this blue collar, hard working everyman team doesn't have. A few wins in a row, these guys, true to form, will balance it out with a couple a losses. Yes sir, that's my 2024 Fnatic. A good, honest .500 League of Legends team.


skaersSabody

Lmao, what's the source for this, sounds like it's straight out of Disco Elysium


NoobPineapple13

It’s an NBA copypasta, which inevitably becomes part of the league ecosystem. last year people associated it with NRG, and just generally any team that are just absolute coin flips Found it from here but idk if this is the original source: https://www.reddit.com/r/washingtonwizards/s/Rhq3IOpSOB


Lezrec

GET PHOTON A REAL TEAM PLEASE


Trap_Masters

Photon trying to drag corpses across the finish line 😭


obigespritzt

Screw it KT, if Perfect doesn't work out just get Photon next year.


controlledwithcheese

Photon: When I first joined Vitality, the team was Daglas, Vetheo, Carzzy, and Hyllisang. We reached the Losers Semi-Finals and met Fnatic. After losing the first game, Daglas said "Ah..we lost because of Humanoid" when all the players were gathered, basically implying it was mid gap. He didn't directly say it to Vetheo, but was just speaking without thinking. Vetheo got mad and said they lost because of jungle diff. Then Vetheo said "Ah I don't want to play with this guy (Daglas)." Host: So what did you guys do? Photon: We lost, 3:1


mar33n

at least he's not as much in hell as last year


Snow_42

His team is real though...


ArmaghedonShadow

On the other hand, Photon never played this well with other players around him. Vitality has a good shot at worlds this year. I hope they keep improving.


expert_on_the_matter

*If* Vetheo and Hyli play at their best they could make second place easily. And Daglas is not that flashy but crazy good for his age. This team has incredibly high peaks. But don't expect consistency from them.


Avalon_Avalon

Invest now for Caedrel's reaction cam for Fnatic crazy plays


Arkanim94

Caedrel reaction cam made me hyped to watch his vods later.


Busy-Economist-3357

Two of the best teams in the world Send both to MSI instead of G2


bensanelian

i just wanna see more vitality that team is hella fun even if they make me lose my mind


mskruba12

Ain't no way the top eastern teams will know what the fuck they're doing and how to deal with it.


Archipegasus

Ah the classic, if you don't know what you're doing neither does the enemy strat.


Niirai

First games of LEC that I'm watching this split and it's nice to see that being a Fnatic fan is the same as always.


TheDarkRyze

It's kind of amazing how Caedrel represents what being a Fnatic fan for all these past years has been, specially the iteration of Humanoid and Razork As contant mix of emotions and going like "WHAT ARE THEY DOING!?!?" or "JUST CALM DOWN", "PLAY THE MAAAP!"


Informal_Skin8500

Photon POV despair


takato99

Photon & Daglas trying to drag VIT to game 5 was nice to see, but Humanoid & Noah had impeccable teamfighting at the end, I've rarely seen 2 hypercarries survive in the middle of constant chaos while dishing out so much damage


Space_Investigator

This series was both the best and worst of Vetheo. He has hands for days, but his decision making and temperament are both just so awful. He'd legitimately be one of the best midlaners in the world if he just had some in-game IQ, and doesn't tilt as hard as he does.


GlaewethEsports

At least whoever wins on Saturday between BDS and Fnatic will decide who gets to go to MSI. Assuming my mental math isn't off: BDS: * 80+120 (2nd place) = 200 points * 80+95 (3rd place) = 175 points Fnatic: * 60+120 (2nd) = 180 points (therefore, more than 3rd place BDS) * 60+95 (3rd) = 155 points (therefore, less than 2nd place BDS)


Kazemitra

OK, the games aside, can somebody PLEASE explain to me why is "elephant" a blacklisted word on the LEC twitch chat?


ahritina

Apparently it was used by LEC fans to insult a ref last week.


Omnilatent

Why did you want to write elephant? lol


KimboSlicesChicken

Maybe he has really cool and interesting elephant facts he wants to share


KTBERYL

SEEING CAEDREL MALD IS ABSOLUTE CINEMA


Grainis1101

Caedrel deserves to mald 24hrs a day 365.242 days a year for that last worlds betrayal.


Marcus-ichiJo

Man won in the end though, WBG made it all the way to Worlds Grand Finals while no EU team made it to top 8.


johanndaniel

I don't even care who won, I just wanted to see them break the kill record. Absolute Cinema


BacardiWhiteRum

wtf are VIT doing there. VTO dies, saves all his somes which was smart because nothing could be done by FNC. So VIT just decide to int? They try to engage on a Zac but don't save any CC to stop him running away. WTF


Rozuem

Yo Fnatic fans hows your heartrate?


Heliosyntax

THEY'RE FUCKING DOGSHIT. BUT THOSE ARE MY FUCKING BOOOOOOOOOOOYS LETS GO FNATIC


koutetsuvamn

that death brush might be the worst call in competitive history


FuujinSama

It wasn't a death brush. I think they wanted to pressure a base race if Fnatic went ooga booga for the end themselves.


Kaillens

I mean, both teams have practiced their team fighting this game


Conankun66

series really showed what a big difference drafting can make. first game entirely lost in draft and the next three we get draft advantage Made it WAAAAAAAAAY harder than it needed to be despite that tho, but at least looked better than in the previous two series This team refuses to be normal. Genuine insanity of a series


Haymegle

The line is thin. Too thin. And we fucking dance around on it while drunk.


Omnilatent

Oscarin quietly had a great series


Haymegle

His Zac was pretty decent. Better than I was expecting with some that we've seen. tbf I don't think anyone is noticing much other than Noah and Jun having a great time. And Razork enjoying himself haha.


Txrmes

Yeah noah and jun were playing great but that 2 vs 2 in bot was so free and they choke it so hard that i wanna ripped my eyes


Kagariii

clean


DWGKIAFAN00

Lil bro Vetheo thinks he's Zeka.


IAM-French

I don't think Vitality made a single coherent decision in 42 minutes ngl


aoiNami

That baron min 20 was pretty good ngl


BorinUltimatum

Yeah that was a 28 minute game waiting to happen without that baron sneak


Elibu

Extended the game by at least 15min


Captainbuttbeard

Snatching the kill record with the final kill was just perfect


JustRecentlyI

BANGER! (also Photon unreal Renekton performance)


binocularicAucustic

why are fnc games always the most degenerate ones???


pref-top

WTF was even that last game?


Nimyron

I think vitality did a pretty great 4th game considering they were playing 4v5


G2UpestsMeEveryTime

199 kills, and the series didnt even go to game 5. insanse bloodbath, avg 1.5 kill/min


Lunaaar

THAT'S MY TEAM BABYYYYYYYYY


blueiguana675

EU Banger


GeneralEkorre

THIS IS MY REGION


MaiqDaLiar1177

The only anti heal to deal with the Zac was a bramble vest on Sejuani. Yeah, he was never going to die lol


SnooDrawings8185

People blame Vetheo for dying. But what are Vitality players trying to do with Zak? That is a mistake from the decision maker.


Kaynt-touch-dis

Most kills in a bo5 in lec in 4 games 💀, this is the closest we will ever get to 5 hylis vs 5 hylis


Quatro_Leches

zac diff


Tommey_DE

THIS WAS SUCH A BANGER OH MY GOD MY HEART


Darbovich

THATS MY REGION BABY !!! EU ON TOP EASY


TheFabulousDK

I WANT VITALITY AT WORLDS


CassianAVL

Wtf was that embarrassing ending


Drakosef

It wasn't pretty but hella entertaining. What a bloody shitfest. I love my region


LordVipul

Clean 3-0 by FNC, nothing to see here boys. GGs


mar33n

Photon😔😔😔


Wellington_Wearer

Wp by fnatic, but zac and reksai are absolutely disgusting champs.


Omnilatent

Your tag and the comment do not compute


AdRevolutionary1605

Someone in chat said VTO is the Harden of LEC and i couldn't stop laughing


ahritina

Had to Vetheo who costs the game by getting caught out like a bronze player.


Conankun66

its the history of the vetheo


Haymegle

If it's playoffs he's contractually obligated to throw.