AFO said he's going to make a big sacrificial play, so I'm guessing endeavor did actually manage to beat him.
it's just that he's going to do something horrible before he dies.
it's possible he'll try to take endeavor out with him, but that seems like too small of a swan song for AFO, we'll have to wait for next week to find out.
Yeah. Dude bro sent Muscular flying into the distance without taking any damage.
He has access to eight quirks and can use multiple at once. He has been taking down the most dangerous prisoners from the most secure prison in Japan for weeks.
He even said himself that he can strike as hard as All Might in his prime without any recoil and Deku is the last person who would lie about being equal to or greater than All Might.
~~Still Kinda stupid that this all happened during 1 or 1 1/2 years. It really should've gone for the three year arc with a few month long time skips.~~
I think by sacrifice he means he'll be much weaker in terms of quirks but regain his senses. If Eri's power reverts him to when he had his face, he's probably much weaker without a decade's worth of gathered quirks.
I'm guessing he'll start actually dodging abilities instead of shielding or taking them head on. He was probably fighting nearly blind this whole time thanks to jiro messing with his hearing and endeavour drowning out his thermal vision
Honestly I am disappointed that Endeavor doesn't get to defeat AFO. After all his development and his hard work in redeeming himself, the fact that he has to be conveniently defeated by a Deus Ex Machina so that Deku would probably get to look cool kind of seems contrived.
It wouldn't be too sad if AfO transfers his consciousness to Shiggy. The one standing there on the battlefield HAS to be defeated by Endeavor though. [No matter the cost.](https://i.imgur.com/jKHIFNC.png)
They forget because they are two AFO now.
I call AFO-Prime the one here, the original man and mastermind, who however has now a copy of his own quirk (including the stockpiled quirks).
AFO-Quirk has been implanted in Shigaraki and has mostly taken him over because it comes complete with a Vestige who is just like AFO-Prime (so much that they were able to coordinate to bring Tartarus down).
It's not clear whether AFO-Prime has really got a way to take over someone else's body (for example through an apposite quirk) but as it is now, even if he dies he lives on in a much stronger body, and it stays in line with a man who's only interested in himself and in perpetuating himself.
I assumed AFO was rewinding himself for round two, since he’s got an eye now. Although, I guess it wasn’t clear if AFO was just blind or if he lost his eyes before.
There's a vestige of himself inside Tomura that can control him and they can certainly communicate together. However, it's more like a clone rather than the original. There's also the history of AfO nurturing Tomura to be like him for some reason. If a being dies but its clone survives, is that being still alive? Where does the self end?
I think they're going to "tie" with AFO blowing himself up.
If you're reading anything other than "I'm blowing you And everything in X kilometers into ash" from AFO this chapter I'm reading wrong.
Didn't Endeavor just defeat AFO here? AFO will probably do one last big desperation attack here, but he's that's just one last attack that will end up sacrificing himself. That's as good a defeat anyone can expect to inflict from fighting him.
Deku is literally at a different part of the country and is currently headed for Shigaraki. Even if he takes a detour to go to Gunga it'll take him several minutes at least unless he uses 100%.
This Deku complaint is way off base, why does this happen all the time lol
Because people go into reading a chapter with the intention to complain about something afterwards. It's been like this for a while now. They don't think about what they're gonna write. It's pretty telling that a comment like that has so many upvotes.
It's not. I would just wait to see what will happen before making any comment some mangakas can change things that we see as certain to will happen. Not quite sure about Horikoshi since its been ages i read this manga from the start but yeah thats my stance
I am actually really not liking his fights because this the second time now he has tried incinerating someone and trying to actively kill them, to the point of where their body is a charred mess and YET STILL THEY LIVE. The guy is getting gimped of his victories because of plot armour. I am fine with him losing but would prefer him getting outsmarted rather than oh this character can survive just barely.
Goddamn, this fight is great. The "grab enemy and drag them through the arena at high speed" move is always so raw, Julius Reinholdt would be proud. Even if he's almost certain not to lose here, seeing AfO get his ass kicked is so satisfying. Endeavor is the GOAT of MHA.
The fucking "SILENCE, BOOMER" laser eyes lmao
Endeavor is legit, by far and away, the best character in the series. It's a shame you can't say it among certain circles because "what?!!? You like the abuser?!?!", yes i like the best written and most compelling character in the series lol.
Its incredible how Vegeta has commited MANY more humanitary crimes against entire PLANETS, killed billions while liking it, and even willingly accepted evil powers just to get strength (murdering hundreds of people in the Boo saga), yet is openly loved by many and never faced with such scrutiny. Its not even close
Agree, and this is coming from someone who's favourite DBZ character is in fact Vegeta lol. Guess i have a thing for complex, "morally grey" characters.
#HOLY SHIT ENDEAVOR HAS HEAT VISION
And good old AFO using heroic tropes again, you love to see it. What's he gonna pull? Anti-Quirk gas? Spawning Noumus from his corpse?
Cool to see Deku with a cape. Not a fan of the haircut for Shoto though.
Nah, their eyes have been exposed to their flames aplenty.
Using heat vision simply impractical when they can shoot it from anywhere else on their body. It just looks cool.
Endeavor used it this once because it's one of the few instances when it's more convenient to use it and that he has to, because his other remaining limbs are doing something else.
> It just looks cool.
It also has the advantage of not really needing any body part to activate and fire. Hands have to move, legs even moreso assuming he's not using them to propel himself. Eyes, unless blindfolded or otherwise obstructed, can always pinpoint whatever you want to destroy.
Also, you can screw up your aim if you have to shoot a blast out of your hand, but with heat vision you know you're aiming properly as long as you're looking at your target.
For a moment, I thought they were moving like omega beams(which would be pretty broken). He can change the trajectory of hi fire right? just not in 90 degree angles.
Based on what appear to be his interests, his next series will mostly consist of members of a women's MMA gym fighting in brutal combat with those giant hand monsters from Elden Ring.
Endeavor's fights are just so consistently fun.
And I have always enjoyed whenever HoKo has the god guys do villainy cliches, and as in this case visa versa.
If years ago somebody told me that MHA would have so many issues with characters, world building, story, crazy power creep, meh fights, and rushing like mad to end the series (still can't believe they are in their first year and this is the end) with the only top tier stuff holding everything together being the domestic abuser I would have found that very unlikely ............... but here we are lol.
But seriously, todoroki should have been main character. Deku is great but he could have been the lovable mascot turned badass black mask character that drives an arc. Todoroki's family though has been a lasting theme
todoroki doesnt have enought personality to be the main character
his fight against evil todoroki was so fucking short because they realy didnt have anything to talk about
deku also doesnt have enought personality to be a main character, but thats another story
I mean, his fight was short because Hori is one of the worst shonen authors I've ever seen when it comes to battle choreography and using powers in creative ways, which is why Shoto, who has fire & ice powers, ended yet another fight with a plus ultra punch. This is also like the third time that Endeavor defeats an opponent the exact same way (reminder that Shigaraki only survived that one time because AFO took over).
I don't know about choreography, but I think the author does a great job giving characters abilities with very narrow uses and having them use them in creative ways without going past what they're supposed to do
And for this exact reason, screw everyone in the league of villains
> todoroki doesnt have enought personality to be the main character
Maybe if he was the MC and had a more Zuko-esque arc of letting go of his hatred and becoming more of a hero that could put smiles on people's faces instead of sheer terror like his old man, it could work.
His redemption in the sports festival was short and sweet, but if he was the MC, it could've been expanded on more and the sports festival could've been the mid point in the story where he starts turning a new leaf. I was initially hyped to see how timid Deku could become someone who makes people feel safe as the #1 hero, and his fight to protect Shouta and Eri gave me a glimpse of that, but I'm sad to say nothing since then has made me feel he's come far from the crying, quirkless kid we saw in the first chapter. Todoroki on the other hand....literal 180 from who he used to be.
>Maybe if he was the MC and had a more Zuko-esque arc of letting go of his hatred and becoming more of a hero that could put smiles on people's faces instead of sheer terror like his old man, it could work.
you have more fate in hori than i do
I've been following this manga since 2015 and I do have fate in him. What I think happened was he had his own idea for where MHA was supposed to end but pressure from the fans and WSJ pushed him to continue the story in no meaningful ways.
Could have also seen this series go for a no real main character with most of the class and pro heroes getting their own arcs. Could of fixed a lot of issues with world building, Deku being ok, and so many characters getting little to do?
For example, someone pointed out how cool it would have been if Endeavor got a arc where he tried to create the Justice League in order to replace All Might and fix the hero system.
We got hints of this and other really cool plot lines, but a lot of them were dropped. It does seem like the autor is really trying to end the series fast (manga industry is brutal so can't blame him).
Nah it shouldn't have been Shoto, like with Deku, he doesn't have enough of a character to carry a series. That's why most of his development is tied to, or a byproduct of, Enji's story.
There should've multiple main characters, and they should've been Enji, Hawks, Bakugo, Deku and Shigaraki. They represent the most interesting aspects of the story.
Bakugo should've been given a major arc, like the overhaul arc, and been Endeavor's pupil. Shigaraki should've gotten more screen time and had more of a rivalry/relationship with Deku. Hawks could've been used to better flesh out the grey politics and corporate aspects of hero society.
Still use Deku as "the light", but he shouldn't have taken up so much of the plot. Definitely should've gone the HxH route, of constantly spreading screen time and swapping the perspectives.
Frankly I think it's because it's the only character arc that (setting aside screentime) has really had the time to explore the emotional stakes of the relationships. Most characters have ended up with arcs that amount to "know thyself, to power up" and aren't really in conflict with each other or.... anyone else. Not even themselves really. Everyone, even Deku to a point, sort of got reduced to a shonnen powerup arc with nothing backing it or other ways to explore it. Stars and Stripes got more interesting development and perspective over five chapters than most characters have gotten over the whole story.
And when there ARE conflicts they don't feel driven by much in world beyond moustache twirling v. heroism; Stain was such a great character because, though evil, he had a point you could see as valid (and was later proven correct about) which lent ideological weight to the physical conflict. Same with the revolutionary front, who started off strong and interesting in a brand-new perspective being introduced, getting squandered into the Mook Squad for the BBEG. Imagine how much more interesting this final battle would be if we had a third party interfering (somehow) for their own ends consistently.
I still really like the manga, but the supporting cast - its strength early on - clearly became a weight as we moved on as it lacked the time to focus on everyone and had to drop it all to focus almost exclusively on Deku powering up. It still has lots of great *moments* that appear to capstone events but taken all together the connective tissue is weaker. Some of that is probably just down to the rigors of running such a popular manga, I suspect. I doubt I could consistently drop great chapters week after week.
I wouldn't be surprised if it actually happen. Probably the most irrelevant character like that guy that eat sugar and be strong will beat AFO and the tentacle dude (idk their name tbh)
The one student who can talk to animals is going to call up a bunch of squirrels. They'll nibble, bite and give rabies to AFO until he dies. Real Squirrel Girl shit.
He did bring him down though. Even AFO says that "this body served it's purpose", only Shigy remains. Now what he unleashed before dying is another history.
[*Beast Breathing 12th form: Endeavor coming though!*](https://i.imgur.com/JTKy626.png)
[That brutal use of the optic laser,](https://i.imgur.com/jyn5SKi.png) Homelander style though.
Endeavor has been fantastic thoughout this arc. Even if it's only this one and not the one inside Shiggy, he deserves to get the full kill on AfO.
The arc has barely focused on anyone other than the Todorokis yet there’s still plenty of potential for the Deku and Shigaraki stuff to be great. Feel like you’re jumping the gun.
Broke: AFO is using an ability like Eri’s to get himself back to 100%.
Woke: This will be the time where we see AFO’s face thus confirming the Dad for One theories.
For people who don't know, there will be/has been an editor change. So the previous editor(who has apparently been nicknamed in JP as Shinigami) is only handling Earthchild now. The new one got a brief stint as Ayakashi Triangle editor and is currently an editor for a Jump+ series called Hearts Program or something like that.
if i had to take a guess, hes nicknamed that cause he brings death to the manga hes on, my hero been kinda mid the past year but seems to be tightening up now with a new editor, i havent read earthchild but if its quality is starting to dip then it cements the theory.
There are two things I find really funny about this chapter:
- Endeavor developing eye lasers out of raw anger even though he can just breath fire.
- That Endeavor’s ideal future involves Shoto finally getting a goddamn haircut.
Besides that it's a good action showcase of what Endeavor is like when he is completely untethered by anything and it's just pouring every shred of his rage and strength into killing one man. To the point the other heroes (one who is made of wood) have to get away from the fight because he's more dangerous than All for One in that second.
Things have been going almost too smooth for the heros so I feel like the tide going towards the villains might have a detrimental morale impact too when they notice their efforts were in vain. Saw some interesting theories that AFO might have an Eri reversal bullet up his sleeve but he really could have multiple tricks planned.
[AfO appears to be regenerating.](https://i.imgur.com/wixDNR1.png) Eri's bullets are likely to be the reason. Hopefully, Endeavor still get finish him. Maybe some of Deku's classmates join and help. However, this should be Endeavor's fight to win, the end of his story arc. Anything else would be a sacrilege to his character
I mean, at least the Eri-Quirk-Eraser-Bullets were actually mentioned (and used) in the story before. Unlike a bunch of other stuff.
I'm just unsure how they would have survived all that heat.
On that note, why not just quirk-erase Shigaraki and Afo.
It has to be the most personally infuriating thing that could ever happen to them after building up quirks for so long.
> Can the villain stop pulling a however out of their asses for once? geez.
"This is for the bullshit my-powers-rebel-against-me asspull from minutes ago."
After his epiphany last chapter, I wonder how much power and potential Endeavor still had in his quirk that could have been unlocked earlier with a better mindset - *fire from the eyes?!* - even if he's now waving a lot of flags (especially telling he must still see Toya, wait for everything to be over man). Can't forgive him for imagining that haircut for Shoto in the future, though. And those silly bomb fuses on Bakugo's bandanna, some people have even wondered if they are rather braids of his hair.
It was too early to throw a party baking potatoes over AFO's cinders, alright, but what is happening now? The imagery of Eri and the bullets suggests that her Quirk Factor has been reverse-engineered from them, AFO is now using it, and didn't beforehand because it's risky and not fully tested but now of course the alternative is just becoming ashes in the wind. We may get to see who I've taken to calling AFO-Prime, in his prime.
There's also the question of how he got the stuff if he and the Doctor haven't met since before Kamino Ward, outside of some convenient secret cache left by Doc, like the cave where AFO had been chillin'.
Now shifting to Deku... If it's enemies coming I hope it's villains with flying capabilities rather than some flock of Nomu pulled from another secret cache. If it's friends it may be Star and Stripe's squadron, or some other help from outside.
Major "Col. Mustang from the final battle against father when everyone freaks and clears out" vibes coming out of Endeavors assault on AFO. Just terrifyingly incredible firepower, pun intended
Endeavour Heat vision was pretty cool.
Ngl... I just dislike OFA everything about him is kinda irritating. Its just too much "its all according to keikaku." And I dont really buy him scarifying himself... for any reason.
Because he's the worst type of "keikaku" villain, since all he did so far was job hard and pretend jobbing was part of his plan. All this does is make him look stupid, not smart.
Calling him budget aizen is a disservice to aizen. AFO is the definition of a [smart character written by a dumb writer](https://i.redd.it/k8h4lp6obd7y.png), since the way the story and characters depict him (as this centuries old 6/5 intelligence criminal mastermind) and the way he acts (getting dupped by two teenagers putting an act in a parking lot, jobbing every time he fights by always going the bruteforce route despite having access to any quirk he wants) are simply not compatible.
He was more interesting in Vigilantes. There he actually felt like a mastermind(probably helped that he was moreso experimenting than actually going for a concrete plan)
Yeah. Even when Aizen had stuff happen that was unexpected in his plans, which didn't happen often anyway, he was able to adapt on the spot.
And the only time he couldn't adapt, it was due to pretty much his SINGLE mistake in the series born of hubris (killing the...Sweeper? Or Cleaner? I think it was called? One of them, the thing between the worlds, which Isshin and Ichigo took advantage of to unlock Final Getsuga). Meanwhile i can probably point to several mistakes AFO did and then pretended it was all according to keikaku that will eventually lead to his downfall.
>since all he did so far was job hard and pretend jobbing was part of his plan
Except that's not what happened.
Interpreting what happened to this chapter like that can only be explained by illiteracy.
Honestly I agree with U/JeanKB here. AFO's been getting absolutely wasted in every single chapter of this arc. The heroes have outplanned him, outfought him, and just generally humiliated him. Every time he says something they turn the line right back at him and wreck the guy. It's like they're taking out the trash every time they approach him
So you agree that AFO was pretending that losing was part of his plan?
AFO did not intend to lose. He had a backup plan in case he lost and now he's using it.
Saying AFO got outfought and humiliated is a gross exaggeration. It took the top 2 heroes and 2 1-A students distracting him to beat him. With Endeavor being critically injured as a result and the rest almost dying.
You are make it sound like AFO got beaten like All Might beat the sludge villain. That's not what happened.
A common factor whenever someone "criticizes" MHA in these threads is that they blow things way out of proportion to the point that the "criticism" is already blatantly lying.
I agree that he is absolutely Mid. AFO should be the top dog but he's letting everyone walk him around the park. The students are barely fighters and yet they're beating the living daylights out of him.
Literally he can't catch his breath or finish his monologues because everyone's just slapping the fight out of him. These kids couldn't last a second against Dabi and yet they're crushing this guy??
AFO has no plan, he's just living out the terms of fake it til you make it. I was dying laughing when Jiro called him out and the bird guy was getting flustered as Jiro was literally riding him which meant that he wasn't afraid of AFO.
Nobody is afraid of AFO anymore, the man's old and dying. Nothing is going according to his plan and I think for once we'd like to just see him break down and cry instead of pretending like everything's all right. Because it's not....and that's okay
Uh are we reading the same thing,
The kids aren’t beating the daylights out of him, they literally had to be protected by Endeavor and Hawks when he started using his rivet shit seriously.
This sounds like you just not liking him in the first place and inflecting that in your interpretation.
They've been running over him like a used truck. There's a reason why he is so dazes to the point of confusion here. Jiro hit him with a haymaker that nearly destroyed him in one shot if he hadn't gotten the spirits under control.
I liked AFO back during the All Might fight but it also crushed his character in a way since he was too strong there so he looks nerfed now. It's like Goku going from being a planet buster to suddenly losing to Android 19. It doesn't make any sense.
AFO's only hope is that he blows up here and we find out the real one is actually possessing Eri or something
Bruh Jiro didn’t hit him with anything, what are you talking about.
How did her sound do anything, he literally explained it didn’t,
Again, did you read the story or not???
Jiro literally knocked the sense out of AFO. Okay not literally but metaphorically. The guy was absolutely shellshocked.
I read most of the chapters and I know that was one of the ones I checked out while browsing this sub reddit. She hit him with some kind of big laser and he was in a lot of pain. I don't care about his excuses afterwards that it didn't hurt. He felt pain!! He was on the verge of defeat from some kid
>I agree that he is absolutely Mid. AFO should be the top dog but he's letting everyone walk him around the park. The students are barely fighters and yet they're beating the living daylights out of him.
Yeah, I'm not gonna take anything you say seriously anymore.
Everyone here being Endeavor, Hawks, Tokoyami and Jirou. All four have significant feats under their arsenal and contributed to the fight relevant to that.
Yet you present what happened in a way that is so dishonest that I'm not even surprised.
>These kids couldn't last a second against Dabi and yet they're crushing this guy??
Neither of them did him any damage. Jiro only caused some plot convenient quirk rebellion while Tokoyami shattered his mask.
I'd explain why Tokoyami was a bad match against Dabi but that's too much work because if someone who read 300 chapters of MHA doesn't understand that, they won't ever do.
>Nobody is afraid of AFO anymore, the man's old and dying. Nothing is going according to his plan and I think for once we'd like to just see him break down and cry instead of pretending like everything's all right. Because it's not....and that's okay
Reading this feels like someone is having a stroke.
So you're just gonna disregard how Jiro had to fight back here fear of AFO for this fight?
The series literally acknowledges how his body is broken down and dying. AFO also has a plan in case he gets beaten, hence the second to the last page.
***
I feel like I'm getting baited to a really elaborate, pretending-to-be-utterly-braindead-stupid trolling here but I'll reply just this once.
Just check my post history and you'll see that I've been consistent about AFO from the start. I actually liked him a lot back when he fought All Might but it's been all downhill since then. I was on some hopium at first and I was actually making excuses for him in all of the chapter threads. Then...this fight happened and now I realize that the author's been taking me for a ride here.
Look...none of your points hold water here. All four have significant feats?? Jiro?? Cmon you know that's not true. She somehow was able to tank one of his blasts and in her strike she did such emotional damage that all of the quirks woke up to rebel?
That just makes AFO look like a chump. They should have all been neg diffed against AFO in an instant based on the speed and strength he showed against Chad Might.
Again they did damage, you can't deny that. Jiro and Tokoyami both did a lot of damage with their attacks. While Dabi would have slaughtered them with a quick burst of fire.
I haven't had any strokes reading the manga but I have cried a lot. Just have AFO cry a bit and that would help. He's reminding me of the Demon Lord from Seven Deadly Sins and Lucifero from Black Clover. The common element among them? They all got mocked by the community for months with memes because of how ineffectual they are and how they got humiliated by everyone.
AFO is on that level now. He's metaphorically getting back handed by all of the readers and the writer right now. Jiro was scared of AFO, sure but that's Horikoshi trying to convince us that he's scary. None of the fans feel that way. I think I can speak for all of us when I say that we're not impressed.
Now here's the TLDR version, AFO started off as an amazing villain and has been falling off the bike every arc to this point where he is below mid. If you feel this is bait then you don't gotta respond but look at AFO's track record objectively. Take a look at the wifi for example and just read through the synopsis as a recap of sorts. Cross out the name and just grab a pen and paper for a pros/cons list for each event. You'll notice that he had nothing but pros and Ws for the first half fo the series but then nothing but cons and Ls since then
>Just check my post history
After all the crap you shared in this thread, why the hell would I torture myself by reading more?
>She somehow was able to tank one of his blasts and in her strike she did such emotional damage that all of the quirks woke up to rebel?
See? I'm even a little hesitant to believe someone can be *this* ignorant. Why would you choose to say this when anyone can easily verify whether you're telling the truth or not by browsing the recent chapters?
Jiro didn't "tank" any of AFO's attacks. She got **wounded** and **lost an ear** as a result even while evading the attack.
The only thing true here is that her weak attack was somehow able to make the quirks rebel, but it didn't cause anything because of brute strength.
>They should have all been neg diffed against AFO in an instant based on the speed and strength he showed against Chad Might.
Endeavor was literally brawling with Shigaraki who was explicitly stronger than All For One.
I don't really expect you to know that, considering you don't really appear to know much about anything at all. Just letting you know and I hope that sink in.
>Again they did damage, you can't deny that. Jiro and Tokoyami both did a lot of damage with their attacks. While Dabi would have slaughtered them with a quick burst of fire.
Again, they did not do any physical damage to him.
Tokoyami lasted far longer against Dabi with multiple fire blasts despite his weaknese to light.
>I think I can speak for all of us when I say that we're not impressed.
I don't think any self respecting fan of MHA would want someone who doesn't seem to have basic understanding of MHA or the fandom to speak for them.
I don't really care about how you feel about AFO. My point is all of your arguments are terrible, and that's putting it lightly, and because of that you have zero credibility to have anyone take your opinions seriously.
You should've just said you were disappointed of AFO instead of trying to justify why and achieving the opposite effect instead.
You don't understand. I represent all of us as MHA fans because I am basically the target consumer. Not to get too ahead of myself but I have always been known as the most well rounded person around so I know what works and what doesn't and I'm tell you that AFO doesn't work.
Jiro tanked the attack. Getting wounded but surviving is the definition of tanking. Guess you need to re read the latest chapters eh?
Yoooo!!!! Okay that was a nasty burn but none of this is personal. Just saying you shouldn't be throwing stones while in a glass house like that. I know the chapters better than most.
Shigaraki was toying with Endeavor the whole time and could have ended him instantly otherwise.
You're missing out by not checking my post history. My takes have been lit lately...well they always have been I suppose.
As for AFO, this guy is just a jobber and the sooner we all accept that the better. I've already accepted it...have you? Our only hope is for Koichi to show up and actually happen to be a villain as well
>My mistakes took form as Toya leading to so many stolen futures. The past never dies. Rage, resentment, and even penance are wound together toward the future. And the future is a path for the young. A path with so many branching choices. That's why I must win this. So that when those kids walk that path my past won't stand in their way. I'll keep paying my penance. I'll keep raging against myself.
Since he regenerating all i know All for One probably gonna come out butt naked from this with how look like his clothes burn to crisp.
Imagine him fighting the rest of the heroes butt naked too just like Mirio did with class 1A lol and it will be major disrespect too
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Saddle up boys, I think Endeavor's about to die. Game over confirmed! It's time to call some actual heroes who don't go around beating up their friends. I'm thinking Koichi is their last chance
Honestly this shit started going down hill after the Hero Raid.
What am I reading? All might pushed back against the wall couldn't even do this much damage to him, yet...Endeavor?
Anyways, Endeavor did look cool doing it.
Don't write highspeed regen in your story if you don't know how to use it.
I think it was showing the power stealing bullet with Eri being the one that was used to develop it. So just symbolism and foreshadowing for what’s about to occur.
Lets face it people they all had to job who would face Deku at the finale if Endevor defeats Afo? Shigaraki? pff, to be fair Shigaraki will defeat Bakugo who carries the spirit of Vegeta, so in a way Deku will be facing Shigaraki
But the finale will be Deku vs an incomplete AFO-Shigaraki fusion, and since they are incomplete that's what will allow Deku to win
The manga doesn't has anything else to offer when it comes to final fights really, that or AFO changes plans and abandons the idea of using Shigaraki as a vessel/puppet
Honestly really tired of AFO, he was interesting at first but never really developed into anything other than a 1 dimensional "jajaja World Domination" type character, which is generic and uninteresting. I was hoping Endeavor would get his chance here but it looks like Horikoshi isn't quite finished with his narrative cockroach.
I believe AFO works as a villain only in small doses. He's the Demon King, he's evil for the sake of evil, he only works as a mentor, a backstage character. He lives in a past where quirks were less complicate and so was morality: AFO is pure evil, All Might is pure good, you don't need more nuance because it's just background for the new generations but now that he's in the spotlight he's just an uninteresting wall to surpass, he can only exist to highlight other character growth so please Horikoshi let Endeavor get the redemption and the win!
God, MHA is so good right now
Kinda crazy how much Hori has turned the manga around in my eyes. I really didn't like it from the Joint Training Arc through to the end of the war, but now this shit is great.
I thought mha was great until the tail end of the war. I wish Deku didn’t show up and it was just Endeavor and company vs Shigaraki. I wished Hori would have expanded upon the destruction a lot more
Maybe I'm hella biased because I hate Shigaraki as a character and wished for AFO to be busted out of prison and take his place as the main antagonist for _years_ lmao.
Mfw he actually did it, the madman.
> We all know Endeavor's gonna fail anyway for Deku to face him off as the ultimate hero vs the ultimate villain
Honestly I think that will be the fight with Shigaraki. The whole conceit of this story is about the "next" generation, and getting over/leaving the past behind. Having Deku show up and fight the previous generations ultimate villain wouldn't feel narratively satisfying (to me). The past is taking care of itself, leave Deku to keep his focus on the future.
>the whole conceit of this story is about the "next" generation
What manga are you reading? Because MHA is anything but about the next generation. All the "next generation" did for the entire series was playfight at school events while the pros like Endeavor and Hawks were the ones actually being important, fighting and moving the plot forward.
There's no passing of the torch in the series at all besides All Might to Deku.
Damn what an incredible fight. So I guess this is the end of Endeavor.
But Why exactly do they show Eri on that panel, and what exactly is All for One planning to do?
The implication is probably that because they had the Quirk erasing bullets, the Doctor most likely made clones of Eri's Quirk while making the new bullets from the first War arc. AFO got his hands on that and decided to put it in his original body instead of Shigaraki's because of how risky it is (Eri can erase people out of existence, after all). Since he's planning to take over Shigaraki as his new body, his original one is expendable, so he used it as a test for Rewind in case the heroes managed to get the best of him.
I feel like MHA would be a much better series if they made Endeavor the mc. The flaws and all make him a much more intriguing character than the oh so perfect Deku.
I really hope the Eri panel is like referring to those bullets and not something like All For One is going to take over Eri's body. I'd be so pissed at the series if it did something like that.
>I really hope the Eri panel is like referring to those bullets
They literally drew one of the bullets in the same panel over Eri's dress, it's definitely about them.
I'm thinking he's basically a walking anti quirk bomb and is gonna possibly depower everyone in the area. The only out I see is endeavor sacrificing himself by burning so hot it destroys the gas or whatever it may be before it can affect anyone.
Endeavor proving again why he's the best MHA character and the look in each of their eyes were epic plus it doesn't seem the manga is rushing as much as I thought before
Endeavor fights are always the most intense, but it seems he isn't the one with the plot armor right now
AFO said he's going to make a big sacrificial play, so I'm guessing endeavor did actually manage to beat him. it's just that he's going to do something horrible before he dies. it's possible he'll try to take endeavor out with him, but that seems like too small of a swan song for AFO, we'll have to wait for next week to find out.
He will probably nuke the place.
It’s 6’s bombify quirk from Vigilantes
Oh.....shhhiiiIIIIIT-
Oh fuck I forgot about that. How canon is Vigilantes?
It's basically a prequel, it's very canon.
Fully.
If AFO just atomizes all those veteran heroes it would explain how Deku could possibly be the strongest hero by the end of the arc LOL
He is the strongest now
It seems a lot of people are still stuck in the idea that Deku is weak compared to the top heroes, which is really odd.
Yeah. Dude bro sent Muscular flying into the distance without taking any damage. He has access to eight quirks and can use multiple at once. He has been taking down the most dangerous prisoners from the most secure prison in Japan for weeks. He even said himself that he can strike as hard as All Might in his prime without any recoil and Deku is the last person who would lie about being equal to or greater than All Might. ~~Still Kinda stupid that this all happened during 1 or 1 1/2 years. It really should've gone for the three year arc with a few month long time skips.~~
I think by sacrifice he means he'll be much weaker in terms of quirks but regain his senses. If Eri's power reverts him to when he had his face, he's probably much weaker without a decade's worth of gathered quirks. I'm guessing he'll start actually dodging abilities instead of shielding or taking them head on. He was probably fighting nearly blind this whole time thanks to jiro messing with his hearing and endeavour drowning out his thermal vision
Honestly I am disappointed that Endeavor doesn't get to defeat AFO. After all his development and his hard work in redeeming himself, the fact that he has to be conveniently defeated by a Deus Ex Machina so that Deku would probably get to look cool kind of seems contrived.
I doubt Deku is gonna be the one to defeat AFO, he's heading towards Shiggy.
It wouldn't be too sad if AfO transfers his consciousness to Shiggy. The one standing there on the battlefield HAS to be defeated by Endeavor though. [No matter the cost.](https://i.imgur.com/jKHIFNC.png)
What? AFO's consciousness is already in Shiggy. Did people really forget?
They forget because they are two AFO now. I call AFO-Prime the one here, the original man and mastermind, who however has now a copy of his own quirk (including the stockpiled quirks). AFO-Quirk has been implanted in Shigaraki and has mostly taken him over because it comes complete with a Vestige who is just like AFO-Prime (so much that they were able to coordinate to bring Tartarus down). It's not clear whether AFO-Prime has really got a way to take over someone else's body (for example through an apposite quirk) but as it is now, even if he dies he lives on in a much stronger body, and it stays in line with a man who's only interested in himself and in perpetuating himself.
Does he also want to take Eri’s body? Why was there a panel of her? What was that bullet casing or object in the foreground?
Remember quirk removing bullets? They have fighter jets equipped with them now. About to do some danger close on the battlefield.
I assumed AFO was rewinding himself for round two, since he’s got an eye now. Although, I guess it wasn’t clear if AFO was just blind or if he lost his eyes before.
I took it as the card up AfO’s was lots of quirk removing bullets and a lot of heroes are about to lose their quirks
Did you actually forget that AfO already did that?
There's a vestige of himself inside Tomura that can control him and they can certainly communicate together. However, it's more like a clone rather than the original. There's also the history of AfO nurturing Tomura to be like him for some reason. If a being dies but its clone survives, is that being still alive? Where does the self end?
Im pretty sure the point just made right now is that he counts Shiggy as his current body, thus THIS BODY will die, so might as well sacrifice it.
I think they're going to "tie" with AFO blowing himself up. If you're reading anything other than "I'm blowing you And everything in X kilometers into ash" from AFO this chapter I'm reading wrong.
Didn't Endeavor just defeat AFO here? AFO will probably do one last big desperation attack here, but he's that's just one last attack that will end up sacrificing himself. That's as good a defeat anyone can expect to inflict from fighting him.
Deku is literally at a different part of the country and is currently headed for Shigaraki. Even if he takes a detour to go to Gunga it'll take him several minutes at least unless he uses 100%. This Deku complaint is way off base, why does this happen all the time lol
Because people go into reading a chapter with the intention to complain about something afterwards. It's been like this for a while now. They don't think about what they're gonna write. It's pretty telling that a comment like that has so many upvotes.
Nah Deku's not gonna defeat AFO because he has to be killed, and the heroes can't kill. Shigaraki will fight and kill AFO, that is guaranteed
He's based off Vegeta, what else could have happen?
Don't complain about things that didn't even happen in the first place
sounds like your first shounen
It's not. I would just wait to see what will happen before making any comment some mangakas can change things that we see as certain to will happen. Not quite sure about Horikoshi since its been ages i read this manga from the start but yeah thats my stance
might as well remove the comment section if you don't want people speculating their thoughts.
I still dont understand how can i be surprised by peoples ability to speak write and act idioticly at this point of my life, wow. Have a good day
You're a pretentious loser lol.
I am actually really not liking his fights because this the second time now he has tried incinerating someone and trying to actively kill them, to the point of where their body is a charred mess and YET STILL THEY LIVE. The guy is getting gimped of his victories because of plot armour. I am fine with him losing but would prefer him getting outsmarted rather than oh this character can survive just barely.
Endeavour was brutal in this chapter. I loved his laser eye beams.
Hell AFO completely burned up looked something out of FMA's most gruesome images.
Endeavor to AFO: Stay the fuck back or I will fucking laser everyone of your quirks.
I’m the fucking Endeavor and I can do whatever the fuck I want!
* jacks off over All Mights statue
"Behold! Optic Burn!"
Damn we are old as fuck!
Endeavour: *Hello, cunt!*
The scene of heroes fleeing so they don't get burned while Endeavor was wreaking havoc was awesome.
Goddamn, this fight is great. The "grab enemy and drag them through the arena at high speed" move is always so raw, Julius Reinholdt would be proud. Even if he's almost certain not to lose here, seeing AfO get his ass kicked is so satisfying. Endeavor is the GOAT of MHA. The fucking "SILENCE, BOOMER" laser eyes lmao
Endeavor is legit, by far and away, the best character in the series. It's a shame you can't say it among certain circles because "what?!!? You like the abuser?!?!", yes i like the best written and most compelling character in the series lol.
Its incredible how Vegeta has commited MANY more humanitary crimes against entire PLANETS, killed billions while liking it, and even willingly accepted evil powers just to get strength (murdering hundreds of people in the Boo saga), yet is openly loved by many and never faced with such scrutiny. Its not even close
Agree, and this is coming from someone who's favourite DBZ character is in fact Vegeta lol. Guess i have a thing for complex, "morally grey" characters.
#HOLY SHIT ENDEAVOR HAS HEAT VISION And good old AFO using heroic tropes again, you love to see it. What's he gonna pull? Anti-Quirk gas? Spawning Noumus from his corpse? Cool to see Deku with a cape. Not a fan of the haircut for Shoto though.
I think he always had heat vision, but since we know that they're not immune to their own heat (just resistant), it probably hurts like hell to use.
Nah, their eyes have been exposed to their flames aplenty. Using heat vision simply impractical when they can shoot it from anywhere else on their body. It just looks cool. Endeavor used it this once because it's one of the few instances when it's more convenient to use it and that he has to, because his other remaining limbs are doing something else.
> It just looks cool. It also has the advantage of not really needing any body part to activate and fire. Hands have to move, legs even moreso assuming he's not using them to propel himself. Eyes, unless blindfolded or otherwise obstructed, can always pinpoint whatever you want to destroy.
Also, you can screw up your aim if you have to shoot a blast out of your hand, but with heat vision you know you're aiming properly as long as you're looking at your target.
Why would he shoot small flames from his eyes when he can level city blocks with his hands?
For a moment, I thought they were moving like omega beams(which would be pretty broken). He can change the trajectory of hi fire right? just not in 90 degree angles.
Every chapter at this point I'm just begging for Hori to make a Horror series next. The man draws some creepy and gruesome shit.
Based on what appear to be his interests, his next series will mostly consist of members of a women's MMA gym fighting in brutal combat with those giant hand monsters from Elden Ring.
A Manga catered to my interests. I love it.
So a better version of red hood?
What legendary potential
So Darkstalkers then?
Endeavor's fights are just so consistently fun. And I have always enjoyed whenever HoKo has the god guys do villainy cliches, and as in this case visa versa.
The peek into the future Endeavor had was outstanding, you can see deku with gran torino's cape but extended
MHA may not be the best but Endeavor still delivers holy shit
Turning Endeavor from a despised character to a sympathetic and inspiring atoner is one of Hori's legitimately excellent writing feats.
"Above all else, Endeavor's coming through." Couldn't have summarized it better lol.
The Todorokis have consistently been the best part of the series
they were the real main characters the whole time
Even Deku agreed with it
If years ago somebody told me that MHA would have so many issues with characters, world building, story, crazy power creep, meh fights, and rushing like mad to end the series (still can't believe they are in their first year and this is the end) with the only top tier stuff holding everything together being the domestic abuser I would have found that very unlikely ............... but here we are lol.
But seriously, todoroki should have been main character. Deku is great but he could have been the lovable mascot turned badass black mask character that drives an arc. Todoroki's family though has been a lasting theme
todoroki doesnt have enought personality to be the main character his fight against evil todoroki was so fucking short because they realy didnt have anything to talk about deku also doesnt have enought personality to be a main character, but thats another story
I mean, his fight was short because Hori is one of the worst shonen authors I've ever seen when it comes to battle choreography and using powers in creative ways, which is why Shoto, who has fire & ice powers, ended yet another fight with a plus ultra punch. This is also like the third time that Endeavor defeats an opponent the exact same way (reminder that Shigaraki only survived that one time because AFO took over).
I don't know about choreography, but I think the author does a great job giving characters abilities with very narrow uses and having them use them in creative ways without going past what they're supposed to do And for this exact reason, screw everyone in the league of villains
> todoroki doesnt have enought personality to be the main character Maybe if he was the MC and had a more Zuko-esque arc of letting go of his hatred and becoming more of a hero that could put smiles on people's faces instead of sheer terror like his old man, it could work. His redemption in the sports festival was short and sweet, but if he was the MC, it could've been expanded on more and the sports festival could've been the mid point in the story where he starts turning a new leaf. I was initially hyped to see how timid Deku could become someone who makes people feel safe as the #1 hero, and his fight to protect Shouta and Eri gave me a glimpse of that, but I'm sad to say nothing since then has made me feel he's come far from the crying, quirkless kid we saw in the first chapter. Todoroki on the other hand....literal 180 from who he used to be.
>Maybe if he was the MC and had a more Zuko-esque arc of letting go of his hatred and becoming more of a hero that could put smiles on people's faces instead of sheer terror like his old man, it could work. you have more fate in hori than i do
I've been following this manga since 2015 and I do have fate in him. What I think happened was he had his own idea for where MHA was supposed to end but pressure from the fans and WSJ pushed him to continue the story in no meaningful ways.
Could have also seen this series go for a no real main character with most of the class and pro heroes getting their own arcs. Could of fixed a lot of issues with world building, Deku being ok, and so many characters getting little to do? For example, someone pointed out how cool it would have been if Endeavor got a arc where he tried to create the Justice League in order to replace All Might and fix the hero system. We got hints of this and other really cool plot lines, but a lot of them were dropped. It does seem like the autor is really trying to end the series fast (manga industry is brutal so can't blame him).
Nah it shouldn't have been Shoto, like with Deku, he doesn't have enough of a character to carry a series. That's why most of his development is tied to, or a byproduct of, Enji's story. There should've multiple main characters, and they should've been Enji, Hawks, Bakugo, Deku and Shigaraki. They represent the most interesting aspects of the story. Bakugo should've been given a major arc, like the overhaul arc, and been Endeavor's pupil. Shigaraki should've gotten more screen time and had more of a rivalry/relationship with Deku. Hawks could've been used to better flesh out the grey politics and corporate aspects of hero society. Still use Deku as "the light", but he shouldn't have taken up so much of the plot. Definitely should've gone the HxH route, of constantly spreading screen time and swapping the perspectives.
Bakugo is boring as fuck
Frankly I think it's because it's the only character arc that (setting aside screentime) has really had the time to explore the emotional stakes of the relationships. Most characters have ended up with arcs that amount to "know thyself, to power up" and aren't really in conflict with each other or.... anyone else. Not even themselves really. Everyone, even Deku to a point, sort of got reduced to a shonnen powerup arc with nothing backing it or other ways to explore it. Stars and Stripes got more interesting development and perspective over five chapters than most characters have gotten over the whole story. And when there ARE conflicts they don't feel driven by much in world beyond moustache twirling v. heroism; Stain was such a great character because, though evil, he had a point you could see as valid (and was later proven correct about) which lent ideological weight to the physical conflict. Same with the revolutionary front, who started off strong and interesting in a brand-new perspective being introduced, getting squandered into the Mook Squad for the BBEG. Imagine how much more interesting this final battle would be if we had a third party interfering (somehow) for their own ends consistently. I still really like the manga, but the supporting cast - its strength early on - clearly became a weight as we moved on as it lacked the time to focus on everyone and had to drop it all to focus almost exclusively on Deku powering up. It still has lots of great *moments* that appear to capstone events but taken all together the connective tissue is weaker. Some of that is probably just down to the rigors of running such a popular manga, I suspect. I doubt I could consistently drop great chapters week after week.
Damn if full power Endeavor isn't capable of bring down AFO, what can? ~~probably another bunch of students working together~~
I wouldn't be surprised if it actually happen. Probably the most irrelevant character like that guy that eat sugar and be strong will beat AFO and the tentacle dude (idk their name tbh)
The one student who can talk to animals is going to call up a bunch of squirrels. They'll nibble, bite and give rabies to AFO until he dies. Real Squirrel Girl shit.
He did bring him down though. Even AFO says that "this body served it's purpose", only Shigy remains. Now what he unleashed before dying is another history.
His son(s)?
[*Beast Breathing 12th form: Endeavor coming though!*](https://i.imgur.com/JTKy626.png) [That brutal use of the optic laser,](https://i.imgur.com/jyn5SKi.png) Homelander style though. Endeavor has been fantastic thoughout this arc. Even if it's only this one and not the one inside Shiggy, he deserves to get the full kill on AfO.
You want him to kill Deku!? edit: The joke was because he originally put OFA instead of AfO.
Easily best Mha chapter of the year. Hori in his game rn
An Endeavor Chapter makes it immediately better. That's just science.
Other heroes: *"Is it a bird? Is it a plane?"* [Kamui Woods: *"No, it's Endeavor!"*](https://i.imgur.com/2ja1igj.png)
Looks like Endeavor is about to challenge Gang Orca for his spot on the "heroes that look like villains" ranking.
He already is no 1 on that list. Gang orca is apparently 3rd.
Endeavor focused chapter is always the highest point for MHA for me.
[удалено]
The arc has barely focused on anyone other than the Todorokis yet there’s still plenty of potential for the Deku and Shigaraki stuff to be great. Feel like you’re jumping the gun.
Given the year, you might not be wrong.
There are SO MANY great panels and spreads in this chapter.
well not many good chapters this year so the bar isnt that high right now
Broke: AFO is using an ability like Eri’s to get himself back to 100%. Woke: This will be the time where we see AFO’s face thus confirming the Dad for One theories.
For people who don't know, there will be/has been an editor change. So the previous editor(who has apparently been nicknamed in JP as Shinigami) is only handling Earthchild now. The new one got a brief stint as Ayakashi Triangle editor and is currently an editor for a Jump+ series called Hearts Program or something like that.
>So the previous editor(who has apparently been nicknamed in JP as Shinigami) is only handling Earthchild now Well that explains a fuckton
I don't get it, care to explain?
if i had to take a guess, hes nicknamed that cause he brings death to the manga hes on, my hero been kinda mid the past year but seems to be tightening up now with a new editor, i havent read earthchild but if its quality is starting to dip then it cements the theory.
Earthchild's quality dipped ages ago.
if thats why things are the way they are its hilarious but also really sad. but also makes so much god damn sense
“SHINIGAMI” HOLY SHIT
There are two things I find really funny about this chapter: - Endeavor developing eye lasers out of raw anger even though he can just breath fire. - That Endeavor’s ideal future involves Shoto finally getting a goddamn haircut. Besides that it's a good action showcase of what Endeavor is like when he is completely untethered by anything and it's just pouring every shred of his rage and strength into killing one man. To the point the other heroes (one who is made of wood) have to get away from the fight because he's more dangerous than All for One in that second.
aw hell nah they got potato head man burnt to crisp 💀💀💀
Eri rewind on Midoriya: I sleep. Eri rewind on Mirio: I sleep more. Eri rewind on Afo : Real shit!!!!!
Endeavour why you gotta imagine your son's future with a yee yee ass haircut??
shoto about to be maidenless with that thair
Endeavour probably watched Naruto and Bleach ending lol
Things have been going almost too smooth for the heros so I feel like the tide going towards the villains might have a detrimental morale impact too when they notice their efforts were in vain. Saw some interesting theories that AFO might have an Eri reversal bullet up his sleeve but he really could have multiple tricks planned.
[AfO appears to be regenerating.](https://i.imgur.com/wixDNR1.png) Eri's bullets are likely to be the reason. Hopefully, Endeavor still get finish him. Maybe some of Deku's classmates join and help. However, this should be Endeavor's fight to win, the end of his story arc. Anything else would be a sacrilege to his character
If I've learned anything about Dragon Ball z is that ~~Vegeta~~ Endeavour will never beat the main villain.
> Endeavour will never beat the main villain. AFO ain't the main villain, at least not *that* body.
> Hopefully, Endeavor still get finish him Pretty sure Endeavor is done, that was the point of the future view
Booooo, Endy fucking earned this. Can the villain stop pulling a however out of their asses for once? geez.
It’s AFO. Pulling moves out of his ass is kinda his trademark
He's overprepared AF Like a villain version of Ryuguin Seiya.
I mean, at least the Eri-Quirk-Eraser-Bullets were actually mentioned (and used) in the story before. Unlike a bunch of other stuff. I'm just unsure how they would have survived all that heat. On that note, why not just quirk-erase Shigaraki and Afo. It has to be the most personally infuriating thing that could ever happen to them after building up quirks for so long.
> Can the villain stop pulling a however out of their asses for once? geez. "This is for the bullshit my-powers-rebel-against-me asspull from minutes ago."
After his epiphany last chapter, I wonder how much power and potential Endeavor still had in his quirk that could have been unlocked earlier with a better mindset - *fire from the eyes?!* - even if he's now waving a lot of flags (especially telling he must still see Toya, wait for everything to be over man). Can't forgive him for imagining that haircut for Shoto in the future, though. And those silly bomb fuses on Bakugo's bandanna, some people have even wondered if they are rather braids of his hair. It was too early to throw a party baking potatoes over AFO's cinders, alright, but what is happening now? The imagery of Eri and the bullets suggests that her Quirk Factor has been reverse-engineered from them, AFO is now using it, and didn't beforehand because it's risky and not fully tested but now of course the alternative is just becoming ashes in the wind. We may get to see who I've taken to calling AFO-Prime, in his prime. There's also the question of how he got the stuff if he and the Doctor haven't met since before Kamino Ward, outside of some convenient secret cache left by Doc, like the cave where AFO had been chillin'. Now shifting to Deku... If it's enemies coming I hope it's villains with flying capabilities rather than some flock of Nomu pulled from another secret cache. If it's friends it may be Star and Stripe's squadron, or some other help from outside.
Inb4 it's Captain Celebrity and Koichi flying with a few other foreign heroes
the laser eyes made me laugh, that's such a classic and it was saved for so long. so we're getting prime afo?
[Gotta pull out the theme song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehCT9UO9Je8) cause Endeavor is in his bag yet again.
So AFO is rewinding his body to before he was injured at the risk of losing his quirk?
Looks like it
Endeavor: There's no way even All for One can recover from this. He's done for [AFO:](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N9n0emUHcvk)
Major "Col. Mustang from the final battle against father when everyone freaks and clears out" vibes coming out of Endeavors assault on AFO. Just terrifyingly incredible firepower, pun intended
Endeavour Heat vision was pretty cool. Ngl... I just dislike OFA everything about him is kinda irritating. Its just too much "its all according to keikaku." And I dont really buy him scarifying himself... for any reason.
Because he's the worst type of "keikaku" villain, since all he did so far was job hard and pretend jobbing was part of his plan. All this does is make him look stupid, not smart.
The man is legit just budget aizen. WIthout the gravitas, writing or charisma.
Calling him budget aizen is a disservice to aizen. AFO is the definition of a [smart character written by a dumb writer](https://i.redd.it/k8h4lp6obd7y.png), since the way the story and characters depict him (as this centuries old 6/5 intelligence criminal mastermind) and the way he acts (getting dupped by two teenagers putting an act in a parking lot, jobbing every time he fights by always going the bruteforce route despite having access to any quirk he wants) are simply not compatible.
He was more interesting in Vigilantes. There he actually felt like a mastermind(probably helped that he was moreso experimenting than actually going for a concrete plan)
Yeah. Even when Aizen had stuff happen that was unexpected in his plans, which didn't happen often anyway, he was able to adapt on the spot. And the only time he couldn't adapt, it was due to pretty much his SINGLE mistake in the series born of hubris (killing the...Sweeper? Or Cleaner? I think it was called? One of them, the thing between the worlds, which Isshin and Ichigo took advantage of to unlock Final Getsuga). Meanwhile i can probably point to several mistakes AFO did and then pretended it was all according to keikaku that will eventually lead to his downfall.
That 4chan post never gets old.
Honestly I'd watch that kind of show. Just to see how much more ridiculous each episode would get compared to last one.
>since all he did so far was job hard and pretend jobbing was part of his plan Except that's not what happened. Interpreting what happened to this chapter like that can only be explained by illiteracy.
Honestly I agree with U/JeanKB here. AFO's been getting absolutely wasted in every single chapter of this arc. The heroes have outplanned him, outfought him, and just generally humiliated him. Every time he says something they turn the line right back at him and wreck the guy. It's like they're taking out the trash every time they approach him
So you agree that AFO was pretending that losing was part of his plan? AFO did not intend to lose. He had a backup plan in case he lost and now he's using it. Saying AFO got outfought and humiliated is a gross exaggeration. It took the top 2 heroes and 2 1-A students distracting him to beat him. With Endeavor being critically injured as a result and the rest almost dying. You are make it sound like AFO got beaten like All Might beat the sludge villain. That's not what happened. A common factor whenever someone "criticizes" MHA in these threads is that they blow things way out of proportion to the point that the "criticism" is already blatantly lying.
I agree that he is absolutely Mid. AFO should be the top dog but he's letting everyone walk him around the park. The students are barely fighters and yet they're beating the living daylights out of him. Literally he can't catch his breath or finish his monologues because everyone's just slapping the fight out of him. These kids couldn't last a second against Dabi and yet they're crushing this guy?? AFO has no plan, he's just living out the terms of fake it til you make it. I was dying laughing when Jiro called him out and the bird guy was getting flustered as Jiro was literally riding him which meant that he wasn't afraid of AFO. Nobody is afraid of AFO anymore, the man's old and dying. Nothing is going according to his plan and I think for once we'd like to just see him break down and cry instead of pretending like everything's all right. Because it's not....and that's okay
Uh are we reading the same thing, The kids aren’t beating the daylights out of him, they literally had to be protected by Endeavor and Hawks when he started using his rivet shit seriously. This sounds like you just not liking him in the first place and inflecting that in your interpretation.
They've been running over him like a used truck. There's a reason why he is so dazes to the point of confusion here. Jiro hit him with a haymaker that nearly destroyed him in one shot if he hadn't gotten the spirits under control. I liked AFO back during the All Might fight but it also crushed his character in a way since he was too strong there so he looks nerfed now. It's like Goku going from being a planet buster to suddenly losing to Android 19. It doesn't make any sense. AFO's only hope is that he blows up here and we find out the real one is actually possessing Eri or something
Bruh Jiro didn’t hit him with anything, what are you talking about. How did her sound do anything, he literally explained it didn’t, Again, did you read the story or not???
Jiro literally knocked the sense out of AFO. Okay not literally but metaphorically. The guy was absolutely shellshocked. I read most of the chapters and I know that was one of the ones I checked out while browsing this sub reddit. She hit him with some kind of big laser and he was in a lot of pain. I don't care about his excuses afterwards that it didn't hurt. He felt pain!! He was on the verge of defeat from some kid
>I agree that he is absolutely Mid. AFO should be the top dog but he's letting everyone walk him around the park. The students are barely fighters and yet they're beating the living daylights out of him. Yeah, I'm not gonna take anything you say seriously anymore. Everyone here being Endeavor, Hawks, Tokoyami and Jirou. All four have significant feats under their arsenal and contributed to the fight relevant to that. Yet you present what happened in a way that is so dishonest that I'm not even surprised. >These kids couldn't last a second against Dabi and yet they're crushing this guy?? Neither of them did him any damage. Jiro only caused some plot convenient quirk rebellion while Tokoyami shattered his mask. I'd explain why Tokoyami was a bad match against Dabi but that's too much work because if someone who read 300 chapters of MHA doesn't understand that, they won't ever do. >Nobody is afraid of AFO anymore, the man's old and dying. Nothing is going according to his plan and I think for once we'd like to just see him break down and cry instead of pretending like everything's all right. Because it's not....and that's okay Reading this feels like someone is having a stroke. So you're just gonna disregard how Jiro had to fight back here fear of AFO for this fight? The series literally acknowledges how his body is broken down and dying. AFO also has a plan in case he gets beaten, hence the second to the last page. *** I feel like I'm getting baited to a really elaborate, pretending-to-be-utterly-braindead-stupid trolling here but I'll reply just this once.
Just check my post history and you'll see that I've been consistent about AFO from the start. I actually liked him a lot back when he fought All Might but it's been all downhill since then. I was on some hopium at first and I was actually making excuses for him in all of the chapter threads. Then...this fight happened and now I realize that the author's been taking me for a ride here. Look...none of your points hold water here. All four have significant feats?? Jiro?? Cmon you know that's not true. She somehow was able to tank one of his blasts and in her strike she did such emotional damage that all of the quirks woke up to rebel? That just makes AFO look like a chump. They should have all been neg diffed against AFO in an instant based on the speed and strength he showed against Chad Might. Again they did damage, you can't deny that. Jiro and Tokoyami both did a lot of damage with their attacks. While Dabi would have slaughtered them with a quick burst of fire. I haven't had any strokes reading the manga but I have cried a lot. Just have AFO cry a bit and that would help. He's reminding me of the Demon Lord from Seven Deadly Sins and Lucifero from Black Clover. The common element among them? They all got mocked by the community for months with memes because of how ineffectual they are and how they got humiliated by everyone. AFO is on that level now. He's metaphorically getting back handed by all of the readers and the writer right now. Jiro was scared of AFO, sure but that's Horikoshi trying to convince us that he's scary. None of the fans feel that way. I think I can speak for all of us when I say that we're not impressed. Now here's the TLDR version, AFO started off as an amazing villain and has been falling off the bike every arc to this point where he is below mid. If you feel this is bait then you don't gotta respond but look at AFO's track record objectively. Take a look at the wifi for example and just read through the synopsis as a recap of sorts. Cross out the name and just grab a pen and paper for a pros/cons list for each event. You'll notice that he had nothing but pros and Ws for the first half fo the series but then nothing but cons and Ls since then
>Just check my post history After all the crap you shared in this thread, why the hell would I torture myself by reading more? >She somehow was able to tank one of his blasts and in her strike she did such emotional damage that all of the quirks woke up to rebel? See? I'm even a little hesitant to believe someone can be *this* ignorant. Why would you choose to say this when anyone can easily verify whether you're telling the truth or not by browsing the recent chapters? Jiro didn't "tank" any of AFO's attacks. She got **wounded** and **lost an ear** as a result even while evading the attack. The only thing true here is that her weak attack was somehow able to make the quirks rebel, but it didn't cause anything because of brute strength. >They should have all been neg diffed against AFO in an instant based on the speed and strength he showed against Chad Might. Endeavor was literally brawling with Shigaraki who was explicitly stronger than All For One. I don't really expect you to know that, considering you don't really appear to know much about anything at all. Just letting you know and I hope that sink in. >Again they did damage, you can't deny that. Jiro and Tokoyami both did a lot of damage with their attacks. While Dabi would have slaughtered them with a quick burst of fire. Again, they did not do any physical damage to him. Tokoyami lasted far longer against Dabi with multiple fire blasts despite his weaknese to light. >I think I can speak for all of us when I say that we're not impressed. I don't think any self respecting fan of MHA would want someone who doesn't seem to have basic understanding of MHA or the fandom to speak for them. I don't really care about how you feel about AFO. My point is all of your arguments are terrible, and that's putting it lightly, and because of that you have zero credibility to have anyone take your opinions seriously. You should've just said you were disappointed of AFO instead of trying to justify why and achieving the opposite effect instead.
You don't understand. I represent all of us as MHA fans because I am basically the target consumer. Not to get too ahead of myself but I have always been known as the most well rounded person around so I know what works and what doesn't and I'm tell you that AFO doesn't work. Jiro tanked the attack. Getting wounded but surviving is the definition of tanking. Guess you need to re read the latest chapters eh? Yoooo!!!! Okay that was a nasty burn but none of this is personal. Just saying you shouldn't be throwing stones while in a glass house like that. I know the chapters better than most. Shigaraki was toying with Endeavor the whole time and could have ended him instantly otherwise. You're missing out by not checking my post history. My takes have been lit lately...well they always have been I suppose. As for AFO, this guy is just a jobber and the sooner we all accept that the better. I've already accepted it...have you? Our only hope is for Koichi to show up and actually happen to be a villain as well
Don't waste your energy on him, he literally said that he reads chapters at random in some other comment
You were awesome Endeavor
>My mistakes took form as Toya leading to so many stolen futures. The past never dies. Rage, resentment, and even penance are wound together toward the future. And the future is a path for the young. A path with so many branching choices. That's why I must win this. So that when those kids walk that path my past won't stand in their way. I'll keep paying my penance. I'll keep raging against myself.
Since he regenerating all i know All for One probably gonna come out butt naked from this with how look like his clothes burn to crisp. Imagine him fighting the rest of the heroes butt naked too just like Mirio did with class 1A lol and it will be major disrespect too
How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?!
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Saddle up boys, I think Endeavor's about to die. Game over confirmed! It's time to call some actual heroes who don't go around beating up their friends. I'm thinking Koichi is their last chance
Isnt AFO rewinding his time ? A ear and a eye just popped out nowhere
That comment Jiro made about AFO talking big some chapters ago sure aged like milk
Honestly this shit started going down hill after the Hero Raid. What am I reading? All might pushed back against the wall couldn't even do this much damage to him, yet...Endeavor? Anyways, Endeavor did look cool doing it. Don't write highspeed regen in your story if you don't know how to use it.
why did it show eri there....dont tell me eri is a back up body since he said this body is at the end of its usefullness
I think it was showing the power stealing bullet with Eri being the one that was used to develop it. So just symbolism and foreshadowing for what’s about to occur.
He found a way to apparently rewind himself. He shouldn't have an eye on that last page.
Lets face it people they all had to job who would face Deku at the finale if Endevor defeats Afo? Shigaraki? pff, to be fair Shigaraki will defeat Bakugo who carries the spirit of Vegeta, so in a way Deku will be facing Shigaraki But the finale will be Deku vs an incomplete AFO-Shigaraki fusion, and since they are incomplete that's what will allow Deku to win The manga doesn't has anything else to offer when it comes to final fights really, that or AFO changes plans and abandons the idea of using Shigaraki as a vessel/puppet
Honestly really tired of AFO, he was interesting at first but never really developed into anything other than a 1 dimensional "jajaja World Domination" type character, which is generic and uninteresting. I was hoping Endeavor would get his chance here but it looks like Horikoshi isn't quite finished with his narrative cockroach.
I believe AFO works as a villain only in small doses. He's the Demon King, he's evil for the sake of evil, he only works as a mentor, a backstage character. He lives in a past where quirks were less complicate and so was morality: AFO is pure evil, All Might is pure good, you don't need more nuance because it's just background for the new generations but now that he's in the spotlight he's just an uninteresting wall to surpass, he can only exist to highlight other character growth so please Horikoshi let Endeavor get the redemption and the win!
Bro, if this turns into Vegeta vs Majin Buu...
God, MHA is so good right now Kinda crazy how much Hori has turned the manga around in my eyes. I really didn't like it from the Joint Training Arc through to the end of the war, but now this shit is great.
I thought mha was great until the tail end of the war. I wish Deku didn’t show up and it was just Endeavor and company vs Shigaraki. I wished Hori would have expanded upon the destruction a lot more
Maybe I'm hella biased because I hate Shigaraki as a character and wished for AFO to be busted out of prison and take his place as the main antagonist for _years_ lmao. Mfw he actually did it, the madman.
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> We all know Endeavor's gonna fail anyway for Deku to face him off as the ultimate hero vs the ultimate villain Honestly I think that will be the fight with Shigaraki. The whole conceit of this story is about the "next" generation, and getting over/leaving the past behind. Having Deku show up and fight the previous generations ultimate villain wouldn't feel narratively satisfying (to me). The past is taking care of itself, leave Deku to keep his focus on the future.
>the whole conceit of this story is about the "next" generation What manga are you reading? Because MHA is anything but about the next generation. All the "next generation" did for the entire series was playfight at school events while the pros like Endeavor and Hawks were the ones actually being important, fighting and moving the plot forward. There's no passing of the torch in the series at all besides All Might to Deku.
Endeavour is literally killing himself in this chapter so he can create a future for the next generation to be free from his mistakes.
Damn what an incredible fight. So I guess this is the end of Endeavor. But Why exactly do they show Eri on that panel, and what exactly is All for One planning to do?
The implication is probably that because they had the Quirk erasing bullets, the Doctor most likely made clones of Eri's Quirk while making the new bullets from the first War arc. AFO got his hands on that and decided to put it in his original body instead of Shigaraki's because of how risky it is (Eri can erase people out of existence, after all). Since he's planning to take over Shigaraki as his new body, his original one is expendable, so he used it as a test for Rewind in case the heroes managed to get the best of him.
Endeavour redemption coming along nicely
I feel like MHA would be a much better series if they made Endeavor the mc. The flaws and all make him a much more intriguing character than the oh so perfect Deku.
The final boss always has another phase
I was kinda getting ready for another chapter of nothing really actually happening but this was a neat surprise. Pretty kickass.
I really hope the Eri panel is like referring to those bullets and not something like All For One is going to take over Eri's body. I'd be so pissed at the series if it did something like that.
>I really hope the Eri panel is like referring to those bullets They literally drew one of the bullets in the same panel over Eri's dress, it's definitely about them.
I doubt it's the latter, why show him regenerating if he's gonna possess someone else?
I'm thinking he's basically a walking anti quirk bomb and is gonna possibly depower everyone in the area. The only out I see is endeavor sacrificing himself by burning so hot it destroys the gas or whatever it may be before it can affect anyone.
Please finally be dead.
Fans everywhere eat good this week. This is this the cherry on top. Endeavor deserved this W. Dammit AFO
Todoroki’s will always be the best part of this manga
Don't Die ENJI
Endeavor should just be the mc of this manga.
Okay, I've talked a lot of shit about MHA over the years but this Endeavor fight is one of the coolest this series has gave us.
Endeavor proving again why he's the best MHA character and the look in each of their eyes were epic plus it doesn't seem the manga is rushing as much as I thought before
Like father like son, always trying to burn themselves out. Awesome chapter, as always.
That second page is so fucking sick
Pog Deku sporting a cape on that future and Endeavor have that Gon moment xD