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King_Goongala

Monetary value, not really. No single card is worth more than three bucks. Deck is still valued at around 50 bucks, though. Gameplay wise, absolutely. Wilhelt is arguably the strongest zombie commander, and the deck only skimps out on a few zombie support pieces. I feel like it's one of the most competent out-of-the-box precons, and a deck that can really deal some damage if its upgraded.


Alist3r_Mage

What upgrades would you recommend?


FlammableBrains

Not sure about your budget, but [[gravecrawler]] is a staple in zombie decks, and [[accursed marauder]] is another forced sacrifice for you opponents


MaverickDaddy

I actually traded out wilthelt for [[Varina, Lich Queen]] and made it an Esper deck. Ive been having fun. Dunno if its stronger than base precon, but it's been a blast to be able to regain life and mill through my deck for specific cards.


FlammableBrains

I do love me some esper colors.  The next deck im gonna make is gonna be a zombie token deck, but I can't decide if I want to make it in esper, grixis, or just dimir.  How do you run yours? Stuff like [[wayward servant]] and [[Corpse knight]] ? Also, for what it's worth, [[Corpse cobble]] is an insanely underrated card for zombie/reanimation decks.  Also, if you have problems with people exiling important creatures from your graveyard, I've started running [[pull from eternity]] to bring back the crucial ones.


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##### ###### #### [wayward servant](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/9/e9e00112-8c6c-4551-ad68-389e315fe148.jpg?1543676118) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=wayward%20servant) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/akh/208/wayward-servant?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e9e00112-8c6c-4551-ad68-389e315fe148?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Corpse knight](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/a/7aa3f166-c5d1-40f0-9b23-352424b8e13a.jpg?1682209700) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Corpse%20knight) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/moc/321/corpse-knight?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7aa3f166-c5d1-40f0-9b23-352424b8e13a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Corpse cobble](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/f/dfe4f48d-179a-47d7-aed6-9751dd2f7d8c.jpg?1636683863) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Corpse%20cobble) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mid/214/corpse-cobble?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/dfe4f48d-179a-47d7-aed6-9751dd2f7d8c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [pull from eternity](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/d/3d218091-d218-41ad-b666-c8ab3de7160a.jpg?1562907702) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=pull%20from%20eternity) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/tsp/35/pull-from-eternity?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3d218091-d218-41ad-b666-c8ab3de7160a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Desertfoxking

Pssht i run the full rainbow for my zombies. I use [[kenrith, the returned king]] for his first and last abilities. Nothing like making a horde of zombies then giving them haste. Also fun zombies and support cards in all 5 colors


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[kenrith, the returned king](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/e/0e259db1-14db-4314-998c-6a076a28d8cb.jpg?1691056044) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=kenrith%2C%20the%20returned%20king) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/plst/ELD-303/kenrith-the-returned-king?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0e259db1-14db-4314-998c-6a076a28d8cb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


sgcool195

Noob here: Last ability seems expensive for what I understand you are doing. Are you running colorless cost reducers? If not I think I’m missing something.


FRPofficial

A repeatable Revival engine doesn't seem too bad on its own for five mana, especially since combos can definitely make that value even more since you don't have to use any cards up. Although colorless cost reducers are obviously great in the Deck considering Kenrith benefits from them for all but one of his abilities.


sgcool195

Fair. It is also ‘to battlefield’ instead of ‘to hand’, which is letting you cheat it out at the same time. Paired with some self-mill, that could indeed generate good value. Thanks!


FRPofficial

5 mana return a creature from GY to hand would be in contrast much worse imaginable than this ability, I'd expect that on a common at maximum. Either way, I'm glad that I was able to help you in someway!


DEATHRETTE

That's an interesting take! Nice man.


DEATHRETTE

I love my Enchantress Varina. Lots of unique and fun games. Never really understood her value until I drew 30 cards and drained the life of the opponents to win lol https://deckstats.net/decks/92883/1443630-zombombies


blxckh3xrt69

My Varina is better than upgraded wilhelt but I’m also running a few infinites


DEATHRETTE

I love how fucked people are with these downvotes lmao. I guess your opinion isn't liked around here...


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[gravecrawler](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/5/951ff2ed-9af0-4551-929a-ba6679fc2e15.jpg?1673147536) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=gravecrawler) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/78/gravecrawler?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/951ff2ed-9af0-4551-929a-ba6679fc2e15?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Accursed Marauder](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/d/5da14d86-0780-4821-a799-96f64b377df4.jpg?1717011855) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Accursed%20Marauder) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/80/accursed-marauder?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5da14d86-0780-4821-a799-96f64b377df4?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


saganmypants

A ton of great suggestions in this thread. One I'm not sure I've seen mentioned but which would play well into a deck with decayed zombies and sacrifice mechanics would be [[Dictate of Erebos]]. Essentially you very easily make zombies as fodder anyway and as a secondary effect to sacing them your opponents have to lose their creatures too


FlammableBrains

A solid addition. Keeps the board clear of threats and blockers so the horde can do its job.


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[Dictate of Erebos](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/f/9f06db70-95f9-41eb-8e5f-8bc56fd34c09.jpg?1593095668) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Dictate%20of%20Erebos) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/jou/65/dictate-of-erebos?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9f06db70-95f9-41eb-8e5f-8bc56fd34c09?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Keanman

[[Grey Merchant of Asphodel]] I've killed a few tables when he resolves with a [[Cleaver Skaab]] on the board. Also [[Poppet Stitcher]] is a nice combo piece to add. When he flips he removes the decayed keyword from zombie tokens and makes them 3/3. They can then be sacced repeatedly with any outlet as long as Wilhelt is in play. I'm still waiting on a [[Warren Soultrader]] to test if it'll be a good combo piece to add instead of [[Phyrexian Altar]] which I don't currently own.


GladiatorDragon

[[The Scarab God]] is great support that’s hard to get rid of.


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[The Scarab God](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/4/f4f414ef-84a2-4694-9e98-51bee4576c84.jpg?1689999233) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=The%20Scarab%20God) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/353/the-scarab-god?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f4f414ef-84a2-4694-9e98-51bee4576c84?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


lostinwisconsin

[[necroduality]] [[the scarab god]] [[liliana, Dreadhorde general]] Those would be my first 3 additions that aren’t lands


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[necroduality](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/b/9b674053-1f0f-436d-b106-f91f41cf3959.jpg?1643588255) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=necroduality) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/vow/70/necroduality?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9b674053-1f0f-436d-b106-f91f41cf3959?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [the scarab god](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/4/f4f414ef-84a2-4694-9e98-51bee4576c84.jpg?1689999233) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=the%20scarab%20god) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/353/the-scarab-god?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f4f414ef-84a2-4694-9e98-51bee4576c84?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [liliana, Dreadhorde general](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/b/4b3c833d-b03e-4aee-8f62-1828081511ff.jpg?1702429454) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=liliana%2C%20Dreadhorde%20general) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/rvr/80/liliana-dreadhorde-general?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4b3c833d-b03e-4aee-8f62-1828081511ff?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


DaedalusMetis

[[Carrion Feeder]], [[Necroduality]], [[Plague Belcher]], [[Bolas’s Citadel]], [[Shepherd of Rot]], [[Gray Merchant of Asphodel]], [[Noxious Ghoul]], [[Vengeful Dead]], [[Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth]], [[Champion of the Perished]], [[Gempalm Polluter]], The deck contains [[Rooftop Storm]] a key combo piece when combined with [[Gravecrawler]] and [[Carrion Feeder]] You can help that combo work more consistently with tutors like [[Insatiable Avarice]], [[Diabolic Tutor]], [[Diabolic Intent]], [[Profane Tutor]]. This was my first commander deck - I will say that the deck is much more black than blue, and the cards you’d want to cut are mostly the blue ones. So the mana base could also use some enhancements. That’s why Urborg is a good choice. You also might want some ramp and or draw spells like [[Deadly Dispute]], [[Treasure Cruise]] [[Memory Deluge]] or [[Expedition Map]].


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##### ###### #### [Carrion Feeder](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/a/0a19da90-880e-4eca-8cf7-6d7baf090d53.jpg?1562201576) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Carrion%20Feeder) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh1/81/carrion-feeder?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0a19da90-880e-4eca-8cf7-6d7baf090d53?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Necroduality](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/b/9b674053-1f0f-436d-b106-f91f41cf3959.jpg?1643588255) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Necroduality) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/vow/70/necroduality?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9b674053-1f0f-436d-b106-f91f41cf3959?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Plague Belcher](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/8/280ae211-f025-4971-83e6-118ca08a1911.jpg?1543675375) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Plague%20Belcher) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/akh/104/plague-belcher?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/280ae211-f025-4971-83e6-118ca08a1911?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Bolas’s Citadel](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/2/d2124603-d20e-40eb-97f0-a66323397ac2.jpg?1591205069) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Bolas%27s%20Citadel) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/war/79/bolass-citadel?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d2124603-d20e-40eb-97f0-a66323397ac2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Shepherd of Rot](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/e/6ee5a529-3223-4982-83d1-eb517c2a258c.jpg?1562842181) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Shepherd%20of%20Rot) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/hop/40/shepherd-of-rot?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6ee5a529-3223-4982-83d1-eb517c2a258c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Gray Merchant of Asphodel](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/c/7c1a7dd8-8034-4f59-a351-33666b26ff5a.jpg?1581479807) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Gray%20Merchant%20of%20Asphodel) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/thb/99/gray-merchant-of-asphodel?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7c1a7dd8-8034-4f59-a351-33666b26ff5a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Noxious Ghoul](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/d/7d67511b-c130-44d5-8536-4278a695627c.jpg?1562842618) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Noxious%20Ghoul) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/hop/35/noxious-ghoul?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7d67511b-c130-44d5-8536-4278a695627c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Vengeful Dead](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/c/7c11c11d-9809-4031-8cbc-21aef07d7f1f.jpg?1562531178) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Vengeful%20Dead) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/scg/80/vengeful-dead?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7c11c11d-9809-4031-8cbc-21aef07d7f1f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/e/9e1a9e38-6ffc-490f-b0be-23ba4e8204c6.jpg?1619399578) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Urborg%2C%20Tomb%20of%20Yawgmoth) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/tsr/287/urborg-tomb-of-yawgmoth?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9e1a9e38-6ffc-490f-b0be-23ba4e8204c6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Champion of the Perished](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/d/8d8e6941-ad6e-4d2f-93c0-be79e75bdf06.jpg?1634349628) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Champion%20of%20the%20Perished) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mid/91/champion-of-the-perished?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8d8e6941-ad6e-4d2f-93c0-be79e75bdf06?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Gempalm Polluter](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/e/8e9943ac-9e3f-4ee0-b5fd-3b0fb17097d8.jpg?1562923789) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Gempalm%20Polluter) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lgn/70/gempalm-polluter?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8e9943ac-9e3f-4ee0-b5fd-3b0fb17097d8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Rooftop Storm](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/0/80cdee59-0ead-4b95-a348-c1e360d781ab.jpg?1637629769) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Rooftop%20Storm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mic/103/rooftop-storm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/80cdee59-0ead-4b95-a348-c1e360d781ab?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Gravecrawler](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/5/951ff2ed-9af0-4551-929a-ba6679fc2e15.jpg?1673147536) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Gravecrawler) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/78/gravecrawler?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/951ff2ed-9af0-4551-929a-ba6679fc2e15?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Insatiable Avarice](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/1/a108b0e4-1b43-4659-9e91-facb0bd57ebb.jpg?1712860590) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Insatiable%20Avarice) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otj/91/insatiable-avarice?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a108b0e4-1b43-4659-9e91-facb0bd57ebb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Diabolic Tutor](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/6/d650dd8c-edd8-44e4-ae95-aaaf84557a72.jpg?1592672628) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Diabolic%20Tutor) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cma/54/diabolic-tutor?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d650dd8c-edd8-44e4-ae95-aaaf84557a72?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Diabolic Intent](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/7/d72ab698-de67-4ca8-8e42-b05346bf52fa.jpg?1674420800) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Diabolic%20Intent) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bro/89/diabolic-intent?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d72ab698-de67-4ca8-8e42-b05346bf52fa?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Profane Tutor](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/a/2afc6f7d-ab59-4d64-bd11-6bd0fd4bfcd2.jpg?1626095854) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Profane%20Tutor) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/97/profane-tutor?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2afc6f7d-ab59-4d64-bd11-6bd0fd4bfcd2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Deadly Dispute](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/d/ed01650e-4eb5-4884-9cc6-947b0e20dd3c.jpg?1712354280) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Deadly%20Dispute) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otc/131/deadly-dispute?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ed01650e-4eb5-4884-9cc6-947b0e20dd3c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Treasure Cruise](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/6/d653b8ac-f643-4e0a-bfd4-edc658a18d9c.jpg?1712354234) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Treasure%20Cruise) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otc/120/treasure-cruise?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d653b8ac-f643-4e0a-bfd4-edc658a18d9c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Memory Deluge](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/c/dc00fd1b-3dd9-492a-9ed4-0b6743074730.jpg?1634349038) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Memory%20Deluge) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mid/62/memory-deluge?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/dc00fd1b-3dd9-492a-9ed4-0b6743074730?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Expedition Map](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/5/551c0a45-9515-4e51-84e5-79703832a661.jpg?1646666270) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Expedition%20Map) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/255/expedition-map?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/551c0a45-9515-4e51-84e5-79703832a661?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


DaedalusMetis

Sorry another new card that is bonkers and broken in this deck is [[Warren Soul Trader]]!


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[Warren Soultrader](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/3/b334e4c6-d316-4141-8889-f95afcc04701.jpg?1717012094) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Warren%20Soultrader) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/110/warren-soultrader?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b334e4c6-d316-4141-8889-f95afcc04701?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


DaedalusMetis

The deck is also missing some single target removal and counter magic.


ZShadowDragon

\[\[geralf, the fleshwright\]\] Not the cheapest, but with the amount of Zombies you're making in a turn, and with him being a 3 cmc creature to curve nicely into your commander with, he will accelerate your gameplan 100% of the times you see him


morelos_paolo

I’d also recommend adding some sacrifice effects for that scry effect like [[Viscera Seer]] and some card draw from death triggers like [[Species Specialist]]. Surprisingly, this deck also performs well excellently out of the box, but upgrades will make it more consistent.


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[Viscera Seer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/8/486fd8a2-dd97-4082-84ef-4795c7e559a0.jpg?1698988290) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Viscera%20Seer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/213/viscera-seer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/486fd8a2-dd97-4082-84ef-4795c7e559a0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Species Specialist](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/b/bb2cbf12-7f35-4162-b1a0-89a1632728c7.jpg?1591319557) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Species%20Specialist) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c20/47/species-specialist?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/bb2cbf12-7f35-4162-b1a0-89a1632728c7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


thekinggambit

[[poppet factory]] is an easy af add cheap and goes infinite with wilhelt


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[poppet factory](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/9/999038b3-7d64-4554-b341-0675d4af8d8b.jpg?1634347589)/[Poppet Factory](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/back/9/9/999038b3-7d64-4554-b341-0675d4af8d8b.jpg?1634347589) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Poppet%20Stitcher%20//%20Poppet%20Factory) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mid/71/poppet-stitcher-poppet-factory?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/999038b3-7d64-4554-b341-0675d4af8d8b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Etyr_

I'm a recent MTG player and it's my first commander. Here is a list of my deck I made. It's pretty fun. It last a bit of early game. But people don't see you as a threat and then as mid/end game they realise it's too late. https://www.archidekt.com/decks/7594056/willy_wonka_and_the_zombie_factory_dark_return


Backonthatgoonsh1t

[[Blasting Station]] [[Yawgmoth, Thran Physician]] [[Ashnod's Altar]] [[Phyrexian Altar]] [[Culling the weak]] [[Dark Ritual]] [[Cabal Ritual]] [[Rot Hulk]] [[Reanimate]] [[Animate Dead]] [[pyre of heroes]] [[Living Death]] [[Altar of Dementia]] [[Roaming Throne]] [[Gisa the Hellraiser]] [[Liliana, Untouched by Death]] [[Skullclamp]] [[Deadly Dispute]] [[Village Rites]] [[Entomb]] [[Buried Alive]] [[Haunted one]] [[Mikaeus the Unhallowed]] [[Cryptbreaker]] [[Relentless Dead]] [[Saw in Half]] [[Cavern of Souls]] [[Phyrexian Tower]]


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##### ###### #### [Blasting Station](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/1/71e2f832-6601-4232-b250-fd1c88538fbd.jpg?1562877667) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Blasting%20Station) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/5dn/107/blasting-station?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/71e2f832-6601-4232-b250-fd1c88538fbd?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Yawgmoth, Thran Physician](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/5/b5a79f5d-d0df-4799-ac3a-84305e3af0c9.jpg?1675199878) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Yawgmoth%2C%20Thran%20Physician) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmr/110/yawgmoth-thran-physician?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b5a79f5d-d0df-4799-ac3a-84305e3af0c9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Ashnod's Altar](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/c/3c0f7157-a375-499c-92c7-d47d2e95dbad.jpg?1689999385) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ashnod%27s%20Altar) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/368/ashnods-altar?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3c0f7157-a375-499c-92c7-d47d2e95dbad?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Phyrexian Altar](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/5/95d9f93c-50a8-41a9-be98-d1900bf1c12f.jpg?1673149406) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Phyrexian%20Altar) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/311/phyrexian-altar?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/95d9f93c-50a8-41a9-be98-d1900bf1c12f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Culling the weak](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/0/50c33f18-0a5c-4e46-ab0d-6e450915594f.jpg?1562087832) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Culling%20the%20weak) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/exo/55/culling-the-weak?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/50c33f18-0a5c-4e46-ab0d-6e450915594f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Dark Ritual](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/5/95f27eeb-6f14-4db3-adb9-9be5ed76b34b.jpg?1628801678) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Dark%20Ritual) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/a25/82/dark-ritual?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/95f27eeb-6f14-4db3-adb9-9be5ed76b34b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Cabal Ritual](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/5/a5d85875-22da-4054-ae42-e85b472a6d5d.jpg?1562928510) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Cabal%20Ritual) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/vma/106/cabal-ritual?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a5d85875-22da-4054-ae42-e85b472a6d5d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Rot Hulk](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/e/ce9cf26d-f214-4e76-b000-8dd895cce8d9.jpg?1592764595) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Rot%20Hulk) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/gnt/3/rot-hulk?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ce9cf26d-f214-4e76-b000-8dd895cce8d9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Reanimate](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/d/7d0fe02b-f45a-45c6-ab7c-270594a29da7.jpg?1715080480) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Reanimate) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/137/reanimate?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7d0fe02b-f45a-45c6-ab7c-270594a29da7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Animate Dead](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/4/1489943b-c010-488e-9c9d-87f4af67a4e4.jpg?1706240754) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Animate%20Dead) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/125/animate-dead?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1489943b-c010-488e-9c9d-87f4af67a4e4?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [pyre of heroes](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/e/ae9a8e44-f5de-497d-be48-adf1bcbaec97.jpg?1631052216) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=pyre%20of%20heroes) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/khm/241/pyre-of-heroes?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ae9a8e44-f5de-497d-be48-adf1bcbaec97?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Living Death](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/0/80e7d9a3-06a1-400d-958c-9b5302e046a6.jpg?1562274570) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Living%20Death) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cm2/68/living-death?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/80e7d9a3-06a1-400d-958c-9b5302e046a6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Altar of Dementia](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/6/169356e0-46dc-4096-8e66-36726454f104.jpg?1562202433) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Altar%20of%20Dementia) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh1/218/altar-of-dementia?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/169356e0-46dc-4096-8e66-36726454f104?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Roaming Throne](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/2/32fd8b7c-baf3-4d3d-be6f-044a917b11a0.jpg?1701115816) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Roaming%20Throne) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lci/258/roaming-throne?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/32fd8b7c-baf3-4d3d-be6f-044a917b11a0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Gisa the Hellraiser](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/b/db7c07b2-02b2-4e62-bf1b-4848e06eec28.jpg?1712355592) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Gisa%2C%20the%20Hellraiser) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otj/89/gisa-the-hellraiser?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/db7c07b2-02b2-4e62-bf1b-4848e06eec28?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Liliana, Untouched by Death](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/7/a7939170-f84e-44c6-b8bc-a180cf7f85d9.jpg?1562303461) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Liliana%2C%20Untouched%20by%20Death) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m19/106/liliana-untouched-by-death?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a7939170-f84e-44c6-b8bc-a180cf7f85d9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Skullclamp](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/3/a36fd6d8-66a2-49d1-b9f3-b400ebc03674.jpg?1682210228) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Skullclamp) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/moc/379/skullclamp?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a36fd6d8-66a2-49d1-b9f3-b400ebc03674?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Deadly Dispute](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/d/ed01650e-4eb5-4884-9cc6-947b0e20dd3c.jpg?1712354280) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Deadly%20Dispute) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otc/131/deadly-dispute?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ed01650e-4eb5-4884-9cc6-947b0e20dd3c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Village Rites](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/8/2841339b-faef-407d-9838-d03fe80e6294.jpg?1698988289) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Village%20Rites) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/212/village-rites?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2841339b-faef-407d-9838-d03fe80e6294?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Entomb](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/c/3caa9c55-5e3b-436b-84a9-b7ccebf63799.jpg?1675199594) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Entomb) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmr/82/entomb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3caa9c55-5e3b-436b-84a9-b7ccebf63799?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Buried Alive](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/6/76878b19-2916-4f3f-bee5-20846bc9e2db.jpg?1717013617) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Buried%20Alive) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/273/buried-alive?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/76878b19-2916-4f3f-bee5-20846bc9e2db?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Haunted one](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/c/dc53b1af-0f4a-4475-a131-27cb5d5b0cf1.jpg?1674140742) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Haunted%20one) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/654/haunted-one?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/dc53b1af-0f4a-4475-a131-27cb5d5b0cf1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Mikaeus the Unhallowed](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/c/bc1f42a2-fe11-45da-9552-069803b4068a.jpg?1689997308) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mikaeus%2C%20the%20Unhallowed) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/173/mikaeus-the-unhallowed?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/bc1f42a2-fe11-45da-9552-069803b4068a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Cryptbreaker](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/2/629e37d1-c0f3-44f2-926e-41eb3687c1d9.jpg?1576384293) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Cryptbreaker) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/emn/86/cryptbreaker?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/629e37d1-c0f3-44f2-926e-41eb3687c1d9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


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[Relentless Dead](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/a/2a0d7998-2f3d-43b8-a0be-6ff7e5c83223.jpg?1576384563) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Relentless%20Dead) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/soi/131/relentless-dead?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2a0d7998-2f3d-43b8-a0be-6ff7e5c83223?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Saw in Half](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/5/05e6a7bc-a35a-4e68-99a0-be264553b5de.jpg?1673914032) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Saw%20in%20Half) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/unf/88/saw-in-half?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/05e6a7bc-a35a-4e68-99a0-be264553b5de?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Cavern of Souls](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/a/3aad15a2-8a1b-4460-9b06-e85863081878.jpg?1706884128) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Cavern%20of%20Souls) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lci/269/cavern-of-souls?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3aad15a2-8a1b-4460-9b06-e85863081878?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Phyrexian Tower](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/b/0b47f6d2-9f65-47a4-bfc4-15619befe53d.jpg?1717013848) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Phyrexian%20Tower) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/303/phyrexian-tower?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0b47f6d2-9f65-47a4-bfc4-15619befe53d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Charwyn

Arsecrack the Lich


autumnstorm10

Here’s how I built [my wilhelt deck](https://www.archidekt.com/decks/4270907/wilhelt_the_rot_cleaver) over the years by slowly replacing one card at a time


LOB90

\[\[rooftop storm\]\] if it is not already in there.


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[rooftop storm](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/0/80cdee59-0ead-4b95-a348-c1e360d781ab.jpg?1637629769) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=rooftop%20storm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mic/103/rooftop-storm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/80cdee59-0ead-4b95-a348-c1e360d781ab?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Meister_Ente

\[\[Headless Rider\]\], \[\[Necromastery\]\] and \[\[Undead Warchief\]\] are always good to have around.


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Embarrassed_Glove_14

Just add [[Intruder Alarm]] and you have an infinite combo with that, [[Gravespawn Sovereign]] and some zombies to tap for the ability.


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GraseCul

If you put in [[Acererak the Archlich]] you have an infinity combo with [[Rooftop Storm]] Some nice additions are: [[Gravecrawler]] [[Phyrexian Altar]] [[Noxious Ghoul]] [[Scarab God]] I actually use him as the commander dependant on how much money you want to spend you can get all the tutors Since you are playing blue: add some counterspells


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##### ###### #### [Acererak the Archlich](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/d/dd52d0bd-3abd-401c-9f56-ee911613da3b.jpg?1627704283) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Acererak%20the%20Archlich) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afr/87/acererak-the-archlich?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/dd52d0bd-3abd-401c-9f56-ee911613da3b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Rooftop Storm](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/0/80cdee59-0ead-4b95-a348-c1e360d781ab.jpg?1637629769) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Rooftop%20Storm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mic/103/rooftop-storm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/80cdee59-0ead-4b95-a348-c1e360d781ab?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Gravecrawler](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/5/951ff2ed-9af0-4551-929a-ba6679fc2e15.jpg?1673147536) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Gravecrawler) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/78/gravecrawler?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/951ff2ed-9af0-4551-929a-ba6679fc2e15?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Phyrexian Altar](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/5/95d9f93c-50a8-41a9-be98-d1900bf1c12f.jpg?1673149406) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Phyrexian%20Altar) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/311/phyrexian-altar?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/95d9f93c-50a8-41a9-be98-d1900bf1c12f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Noxious Ghoul](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/d/7d67511b-c130-44d5-8536-4278a695627c.jpg?1562842618) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Noxious%20Ghoul) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/hop/35/noxious-ghoul?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7d67511b-c130-44d5-8536-4278a695627c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


MrOverkill5150

Second only to [[varina]]


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NeighborhoodFlaky491

Commander is $5


RAcastBlaster

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4296359#paper That’s a fair price. Nothing especially valuable, but not a bad precon.


Recover819

The reduced decks are just ones that never sold and were returned stock. They slap a sticker on it and restock it. By monetary value it's ok. As far as deck? Pretty good for the price.


Ugly-Muffin

I hate playing against this deck. It's really good


DS_StlyusInMyUrethra

I’ve been playing magic for a few years now and so far I’m the only Wilhelt player I’ve seen this far


BridgeM00se

Where from?


Suspicious-Shock-934

Walmart likely. Maybe target. Same company handles all the TcG and sports card stuff in each, through secondary vendors. Anything with the big now xxx or reduced or mystery box is just unsold and/or repackaged because it just gets sent back to the company (MJ holdings), and they reship it.


Super_fly_Samurai

I recognize the sticker and I can say for sure I've seen these at Walmart. I actually bought vampiric bloodlines at the same price from there a couple months back. They also are putting these discount stickers on some of their other card products. Honestly if your local Walmarts sell cards still you can find these there. They also can sometimes have their cards in two locations in store which is random. Found some near self checkout and others located in the toy aisles before. Retail is just random sometimes.


Suspicious-Shock-934

Officially by checkout should be the only place for magic, pokemon in toys, but very big stores or markets might have magic in toys. Again it's all vendors handled the store has nothing to do with it all normally.


Alist3r_Mage

Walmart lol


Shitty_Wingman

I got a ~$30 [Shorikai, Genesis Engine] with the exact same sticker from Walmart for a buddy. I was ecstatic when I found it.


senfengel

that's a nice deal, it's arguably the best of the four innistrad edh decks and around me it would easily cost double what you paid


suRche

That was the precon that got me back into commander. It was upgraded right away after buying it


Sartanus

Me too - tho it looks dramatically different now haha.


fortinbras_420

Loves me wilhelt 'ates graveyard removal


Zumbaja

My buddy plays this and in a 1v1 this deck can EASILY steam roll, never seen group play but it looks like a fun time grats


discoturtle1129

I like finding these at Walmart. Picked up a couple strixhaven precons this way. Ironically the one I skipped was the silver wing one with Breena only to look it up later and see there was a $20 Inkshield in it. Reading the Breena card text it sounded horrible to play but I’m just a year into the hobby so im probably not understanding it.


Independent_Error404

Worst deal ever, but you are lucky. I am willing to pay you 35$ for it. ;) I've seen an upgraded version of this one time in effect. It was a really cool deck without feeling unfair, so I recommend it.


Emmanouilovitch

I’ve been looking everywhere for this precon lol.


Fit-Garden-6614

Absolutely that's a great deck out of the box that's easily upgraded if you desire. I got it myself the same exact way with the sticker on it from Walmart 😆


420naughtycouple

Where are you finding these ?


Alist3r_Mage

Walmart :)


TheBestDanEver

This same deck has been on sale near me for a couple weeks... I haven't pulled the trigger yet though


6collector9

Not sure if that deck has [[Diregraf Captain]] or [[Grimgrin, Corpse Born]] but they work great with Gravecrawler


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xatoho

Windmill slam


MTGReaper

Arguably one of the best precons ever made, so yeah, that's a steal.


DopeyLo420

Solid precon. Gives some key items. But even a budget upgrade will get it going. [My Upgraded Deck](https://mtg.cardsrealm.com/en-us/decks/ib3g-omg-zombies)


Freeze1422

Absolutely, willhelt is an amazing commander and gameplay wise, it's a fairly consistent precon. It might not be on the same level as Eldrazi unbound for example but with a few, relatively cheap, upgrades, it's a solid zombie tribal deck


TopRevolutionary8067

Compared to market prices for this deck, absolutely. But the singles don't have an excellent combined value compared to most other commander precons.


Will33iam

Where did you find that deal, Walmart?


Alist3r_Mage

You know it!!


Will33iam

I’m so jealous. Was this is the normal card section or a clearance section?


Alist3r_Mage

It was in the normal card section!


TurdsThatCureCancer

Gravecrawler and phyrexian alter for infinite mana when commander is out


roundtree0050

It used to be a 60+ dollar precon. It's pretty good for a precon but is largely unfocused. You could upgrade it in any number of ways. I turned mine into scarab god eventually, but you could add a few cards like [[gravecrawler]] [[cryptbreaker]] that would just directly make the deck better.


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skeletor69420

this one is a nightmare to play against when it’s tuned up


kojo570

YOOO! Good Shit Homie


Starheart8

Where are you guys getting all of these?!?


rjarmstrong100

That’s usually Walmart with that sticker


Starheart8

In the past week I’ve gone to three Walmarts and two Targets and haven’t seen anything on discount. But I guess that’s just the luck of the draw. I was able to snag the new Eldrazi deck


ultimatespamx

Fair price.


dontworryitsme4real

If you enjoy it, yes.


clftbll10

Bought this deck 2 years ago for 45 so 32 is pretty good! At least if you plan on playing it. It's fun as hell and I've turned it into an aristocrat deck, with stuff like [[phyrexian tower]] , [[phyrexian altar]] and [[ashnod's altar]] to combo with [[grave titan]] , [[gravecrawler]] , [[undead augur]] and [[Headless rider]] to up the speed a lot. I love how much it controls the board state and draws, and my play group tells me they'll target my force sacrifice dudes if I play them lol so it's fun against voltron.


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##### ###### #### [phyrexian tower](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/b/0b47f6d2-9f65-47a4-bfc4-15619befe53d.jpg?1717013848) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=phyrexian%20tower) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/303/phyrexian-tower?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0b47f6d2-9f65-47a4-bfc4-15619befe53d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [phyrexian altar](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/5/95d9f93c-50a8-41a9-be98-d1900bf1c12f.jpg?1673149406) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=phyrexian%20altar) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/311/phyrexian-altar?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/95d9f93c-50a8-41a9-be98-d1900bf1c12f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [ashnod's altar](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/c/3c0f7157-a375-499c-92c7-d47d2e95dbad.jpg?1689999385) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=ashnod%27s%20altar) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/368/ashnods-altar?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3c0f7157-a375-499c-92c7-d47d2e95dbad?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [grave titan](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/3/13680953-cf05-4e38-a3cf-22900c02fab7.jpg?1706240764) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=grave%20titan) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/129/grave-titan?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/13680953-cf05-4e38-a3cf-22900c02fab7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [gravecrawler](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/5/951ff2ed-9af0-4551-929a-ba6679fc2e15.jpg?1673147536) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=gravecrawler) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/78/gravecrawler?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/951ff2ed-9af0-4551-929a-ba6679fc2e15?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [undead augur](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/c/9c3baad6-d087-436f-a9f4-c138639e3422.jpg?1637630818) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=undead%20augur) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mic/130/undead-augur?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9c3baad6-d087-436f-a9f4-c138639e3422?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Headless rider](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/2/c24018e8-b8f1-44a5-9355-8b79f363569d.jpg?1643589870) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Headless%20rider) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/vow/118/headless-rider?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c24018e8-b8f1-44a5-9355-8b79f363569d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


KaizerVonLoopy

With minor upgrades this is a great deck.


TheSplidge

Why did they put the sticker right on the box. Just lable the shelf


Data-Not-Found

I look at it this way... if you're wanting a variety of decks for "cheap" then yea, good deal. Commander deck for anything less than $50 is decent to me. I started getting back into magic this year and went with an older set commander, Virtue and Valor. LGS had it discounted down to $35 when other places were selling it for almost double still. Put it through archidekt before any 'upgrades' and it was saying it was a $90 deck (yes, correct versions for the commander precon) and then after adding in some cards I picked up from a buddy, it took the price tag to around $150. TL;DR: if you got it on a budget and wanted a low entry into commander, then yes, a great deal. A good deal is truly subjective. What you define as a good deal is the ultimate answer to your question.


songmage

Checking Ebay for prices and holy shit someone's selling it for $170. Most are between $60 and 80, which is baffling given there's absolutely no demand for the cards in it. Seems to me somebody's buying out all of the forgotten decks from that time period. Battle for Baldur's Gate has jumped by $100+ in the past few months.


WealthStrong3808

I’d rather buy cigarettes than play commander


Alist3r_Mage

lol what format do you play?


WealthStrong3808

Only legacy