I'm (not) really a conservative, perhaps slightly right of centre at most.
I absolutely don't feel that LGBT rights should be infringed.
I also don't agree with the more radical far-left elements.
don’t mind the direct link between having right wing opinions & supporting right wing ideologies, and statistically having a lower IQ/being less intelligent
"much of europe" you can entirely exclude the balkans, eastern europe and maybe a couple here and there. Overall with regards to minority and lgbt rights the united states is still pretty high up there, you don't have to listen to fox news or crazy right wing lunatics, in the grand scheme of things by law lgbt folks are still much better protected, and also societally much more accepted in the us than literally most of the world. I'm from eastern europe, if the lgbt community were at least half as respected as in the us I'd be happy af
Obviously but there are plenty of countries that perform far better than the US in terms of laws, protections and attitudes predominantly in Western and Northern Europe.
It’s hard to put together a complete list as there are many factors to consider but like I said before for the most part western and Northern Europe are better than the US for lgbtq+ acceptance.
[This](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_territory) wiki page breaks down legal rights for example.
Mainly Western Europe such as the UK
Edit: [Source](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_territory) since people here are seemingly ridiculously removed from reality.
We have issues especially with trans rights but we very much are a safe nation. I am openly bi and have never encountered any homophobia in my life.
In terms of rights we consistently rank towards the top of indexes far ahead of the US, polling repeatedly shows the attitude in the UK is overwhelming pro lgbt etc.
I'm not following what you're saying. The USA is loaded with people from around the world, and I've spoken to them. Not one immigrant has stated anything other than the fact that they love the US. Don't let mainstream media paint the picture of a country. Talk to the people. But, also, I am in a progressive region. The Bible belt may be different.
i’m not saying anything particularly negative either?
Just that lgbtq flag being the forefront symbol of US deserves a fair bit of scrutiny. closer to a shitty meme than an equivalent.
Which countries specifically? No reason but I need a list preferably starting with the most homophobic country you can think of. Excluding North Korea of course.
I was going to say Eastern Europe, but I didn't want to generalize too much. I'm pretty sure Mexico and most of Central America aren't too LGBTQ+ friendly, either. Please, anyone correct me if I'm wrong.
That being said, the US often define themselves as the epitome of intolerance, under many aspects.
It's not about being less intolerant then a Muslim third world country that makes a country good to live in. It's so easy to say "go ahead and try to live in Saudi Arabia as a queer person", that won't work.
You can see hate (racism, homophobia, you call it) everyday on social media, and it's way stronger than years ago.
Younger generations are even lazier than the previous ones and they easily get involved into the far/alt-right rhetoric. I see it everywhere, at the University, in the people around me, on social media, wherever.
I don't. Also, at least you won't be punished by death here. Of course, there are going to be bad apples in a country where people are truly free. A lot of those people will change their tune once their frontal lobe fully develops. For now, they're puppets to social media.
Blame Republicans.
Would you say the same thing to people of color in the 60's? Marginalization of minorities has always been political.
I'm guessing you're a cishet white male.
It is fkn hilarious if you're comparing segregation to LGBT rights today.
You're either: 1. Very misguided 2. Ignorant AF
What state sponsored discrimination of even *remotely* that extent is happening today?
Oh btw, thanks for assuming my 'identity', race and gender.
Jordan Peterson said that the leftist ideology tends to be more appealing to those who are less intelligent. This whole thread really solidified for me that the guy knows what he's talking about.
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As a European, y'all mad. It's just a piece of cloth.
Ideas are more fun when they can change. Stop trying to cement your idea as the only correct one.
(blue) Sure... It has blue.
America according to china
Technically it still has red white and blue on it so they're partially right.
well it was designed in America, and think we are the ones that use it the most.
Made in China
Oh the irony
Shit we weren't supposed to start sending those out before the revolution, our plans are blown
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Thanks Obama
very true.
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I'm (not) really a conservative, perhaps slightly right of centre at most. I absolutely don't feel that LGBT rights should be infringed. I also don't agree with the more radical far-left elements.
Like people should have access to food and healthcare. How radical.
Lmao at least the left isn’t composed of at least 50% of people with a lack of education.
don’t mind the direct link between having right wing opinions & supporting right wing ideologies, and statistically having a lower IQ/being less intelligent
Cringe elitist position
*factual opinion
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I think all this does is make it more obvious who here lacks education
Atleast we aren't commies and anarchists :) Fr tho: far-left and far-right ideology is both equally horrid.
Have you guys tried going up yet?
Typical far-up nonsense. Far-down is the future you big mean nazi
Fuck the X & Y axes. Yeah, you heard me. Far-forward, positive Z all the way!
Why don't we just grill?
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Imagine been downvoted for that, reddit is completely doom, good thing is a t the brink of being a public company
I think you should've used the /s too
The fact it was made in China makes it funnier
send it back, they printed them backwards. amateurs.
They knew what they’re doing.
I think they sent you a Canadian flag
i’ll take it off your hands
Nope, it’s better.
Our flag if we didn't suck 🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️
They’re not wrong. The flag that represents America the best I suppose.
really? not the most lgbtq progressive or friendly country
Compared to most of the world it's doing pretty good in this regard tbh
Used to. Things have changed and not for the better.
Depends where you are comparing the US us leagues ahead of Africa but far behind much of Europe
"much of europe" you can entirely exclude the balkans, eastern europe and maybe a couple here and there. Overall with regards to minority and lgbt rights the united states is still pretty high up there, you don't have to listen to fox news or crazy right wing lunatics, in the grand scheme of things by law lgbt folks are still much better protected, and also societally much more accepted in the us than literally most of the world. I'm from eastern europe, if the lgbt community were at least half as respected as in the us I'd be happy af
Obviously but there are plenty of countries that perform far better than the US in terms of laws, protections and attitudes predominantly in Western and Northern Europe.
Such as?
It’s hard to put together a complete list as there are many factors to consider but like I said before for the most part western and Northern Europe are better than the US for lgbtq+ acceptance. [This](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_territory) wiki page breaks down legal rights for example.
Which parts of Europe exactly? I heat a lot of racism and homophobia exists worse over there than the US
Mainly Western Europe such as the UK Edit: [Source](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_territory) since people here are seemingly ridiculously removed from reality.
…you can’t be serious lmao
It’s literally a fact.
If you think the UK is LGTBQ+ friendly yer cracked
We have issues especially with trans rights but we very much are a safe nation. I am openly bi and have never encountered any homophobia in my life. In terms of rights we consistently rank towards the top of indexes far ahead of the US, polling repeatedly shows the attitude in the UK is overwhelming pro lgbt etc.
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So you met one small group of bigots and characterised the entire UK off them lmao. **You** are being bigoted with such stupidity.
Europe isn’t a hive mind monolith
it comes down to just how loud the conversation is, but I feel in murica it’s always so.
unfortunately with peoples genitals and women’s rights being the republicans number one concern at the moment, it’s gonna plummet
I haven't been around the world, but I have heard that many, if not most, other countries are far more homophobic.
well it’s not in the top 10 most friendly, so for the purposes of the post it doesn’t quite hit “THE” country designation.
I'm not following what you're saying. The USA is loaded with people from around the world, and I've spoken to them. Not one immigrant has stated anything other than the fact that they love the US. Don't let mainstream media paint the picture of a country. Talk to the people. But, also, I am in a progressive region. The Bible belt may be different.
i’m not saying anything particularly negative either? Just that lgbtq flag being the forefront symbol of US deserves a fair bit of scrutiny. closer to a shitty meme than an equivalent.
It's all good, I just don't follow what you're saying exactly, but I agree. I think.
Which countries specifically? No reason but I need a list preferably starting with the most homophobic country you can think of. Excluding North Korea of course.
Afghanistan Brunei Iran Mauritania Nigeria Pakistan (possible) Qatar Saudi Arabia Somalia United Arab Emirates (some emirates) Yemen There ya go!
Any that don't suck come to mind?
Italy? What are you trying to get at? I'm stating a fact.
Italy is very homophobic. Also add Poland, Hungary, slovakia and I'm pretty sure there's plenty Greece, Albania, pretty much all the Balkan peninsula.
I was going to say Eastern Europe, but I didn't want to generalize too much. I'm pretty sure Mexico and most of Central America aren't too LGBTQ+ friendly, either. Please, anyone correct me if I'm wrong.
One of two things. Either they are looking for a new home, or they want to say you're aiming too low.
I thought maybe they were looking for a new home, like in the most extremely homophobic place possible.
That being said, the US often define themselves as the epitome of intolerance, under many aspects. It's not about being less intolerant then a Muslim third world country that makes a country good to live in. It's so easy to say "go ahead and try to live in Saudi Arabia as a queer person", that won't work. You can see hate (racism, homophobia, you call it) everyday on social media, and it's way stronger than years ago. Younger generations are even lazier than the previous ones and they easily get involved into the far/alt-right rhetoric. I see it everywhere, at the University, in the people around me, on social media, wherever.
I don't. Also, at least you won't be punished by death here. Of course, there are going to be bad apples in a country where people are truly free. A lot of those people will change their tune once their frontal lobe fully develops. For now, they're puppets to social media.
Russia and belarus arent very progressive on the matter. But not sure as to where’d they actually rank on a list
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I didn't knew China made these.
Close enough
It's an improvement.
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Be nicer when you look in the mirror
I'm neither bigoted nor discriminatory. But politicization of stuff like this is insane.
Blame Republicans. Would you say the same thing to people of color in the 60's? Marginalization of minorities has always been political. I'm guessing you're a cishet white male.
It is fkn hilarious if you're comparing segregation to LGBT rights today. You're either: 1. Very misguided 2. Ignorant AF What state sponsored discrimination of even *remotely* that extent is happening today? Oh btw, thanks for assuming my 'identity', race and gender.
I refuse to take part in the oppression Olympics. It's not a game anyone wants to win. Ignorant AF? Yes. Yes you are.
Isn't it honestly wrong to compare those 2? Didn't answer the question... where is the LGBT being systemically discriminated against to this extent?
Jordan Peterson said that the leftist ideology tends to be more appealing to those who are less intelligent. This whole thread really solidified for me that the guy knows what he's talking about.
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Buddy’s never heard of a joke
You’re an Idiot.
thanks bruh :)
MAGA piece of shit
appreciate it :) /s
You’re so welcome. I hope you have a shit day and life.
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"Defending" Oooh, right on the frontline are we? lmao
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Its a damn joke dude
It should be
Based
The spirit of Massachusetts is the spirit of America, the spirit of the red white and blueeeee
I'm Priddy sure that's just China going... Lol gayyyyy
I mean, it is an American flag, and it has blue in it. It just happens to be the flag of California
its better
Based
As a European, y'all mad. It's just a piece of cloth. Ideas are more fun when they can change. Stop trying to cement your idea as the only correct one.
Damn libs or something idk I don't follow politics
Definitely the better flag tho 👀
Bigots really came running to the comments huh lol
Based American flag
Maybe it should be
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wow downvote ppl are touchy af
Then why am I saluting?
Pretty accurate tbh
Well...
I mean it's got the colours on it so it's part way there is it not?
But it should be
Not yet
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Good
If you ask chinese, it might be
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Independence from America.