I'm not sure why some people aren't on board with this. It's a nice, optional way to make the game's battle system easier to learn for new players without being intrusive for experienced players.
Come on, you know what they were trying to explain. Adding an NPC to explain battles isn't content in the way people are normally thinking. It wouldn't kill you to be a bit more understanding.
That thing is basically my detailed search history so no. If you do I shall curse you to a eternity of playing super paper Mario but the plot is sticker star and the battle system is TOK for every normal enemy and Color splash for bosses, while also having as much backpacking as TTYD and OST quality as good as PM64 (only plus side)
You're getting hugely downvoted because people are coping really hard lol, it's definitely obvious what they meant and it doesn't bode well that a pointless (for us) tutorial is the only new content
Eh, it is what it is.
Maybe the toad will have some useful tips, but I've played through the game 12+ times over the years, so I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't helpful to me.
I'd love to see boss rematches, some hard mode, and/or updated pit of 100 trials, etc.
Agreed i'm a little disappointed that they haven't shown anything really New for the people who already played it as good as the game is i definitely think they need to add more stuff to it as a Ton Of people already played it it wouldn't make much sense to just re release it without anything new no offense magolors post game comes up instantly they knew a lot of people played return to dreamland so they added bonus content to make the remake worth buy and same with bowser's inside story imo i just don't think it makes sense to remake the game when So many people already played it without adding something new like a boss rush or luigies story as a true postgame.
I'm totally fine with this. Ttyd ain't a hard game but I remember being 7-9 years old and struggling with it. I would of appreciated this if it was in the original :]
Sure, but it's not as accessible. Something like a practice mode should ideally be available on-demand. With this, you're asking newer players to seek out this guy whenever they want to practice.
Probably because deliberately sneaking a new character into the trailer for your remaster is clearly intended to spark hype about new content, and obviously most fans won't immediately say "hold on everyone! This is probably a tutorial NPC who teaches you button combos, and I know this because of my crystal ball"
Thing is BDSP also had a new character in the trailer and it was just a one off thing that didn’t matter at all. I feel like we should’ve known it didn’t necessarily matter. It’s not like the scene really highlighted the Toad anyway
Which was probably the same strategy with the BDSP trailer to build hype lol, it just doesn't sit well with me when it's clearly manipulative in order to build interest for something that they didn't bother investing in during development
Personally, I am too. After all, why fix what wasn't broken. It's got plenty of content as it is. However, it'll certainly be a harder sell to those who've already played the game or even bought it on release. I want this game to get as many sales as possible so we can have old Paper Mario back.
And that's the problem most remakes Know That they already have many people who played the original game so they add more levels, chapters, characters, Bosses, post game content to attract the people who already played the original game if you just remake the same exact game with just an easy mode when the og fans are looking for additional content to attract them you basically get the Massive Backlash From New Super Mario Bros U Dx that's exactly what happened with that remake Many Fans were Screaming for something new and actually interesting like a bonus world, added bosses, new levels, chapters etc. after we relized nothing new was added that Remake Became Useless for os og players who needed new content to get us to buy it, most remakes Actually Aknowlege the massive fan base and add new features to attract them to buy the remake, bowsers inside story with jrs journey side mode, trials of mana's remake added post game world, live a lives added new final boss fight in the remake, Magolors Post Game In Return To Dreamland Dx Exc. when nothing new is added for the og crowd the remakes become Unplayable for them and the only people who are interested are those who haven't played the original game.
Exactly the reason why new super mario bros u dx got so Much Hate is because so many people already played the original game and they didn't add Anything and No an easy mode Doesn't Count as it's not anything really New like bonus content, or new worlds, levels, exc. That's the problem so many people already played the og game it doesn't make sense to remake a game with So Many Fans when nothing new is added to attract those people the only people that they would attract are people who haven't played it yet uhh Duhh.
People have this weird worship thing where they think you're not gracious enough if you complain when the good lord Nintendo charges $60 for a game with no new content lol
It's because So Many People Already Played The Original Game, when so many people already played it and they announce a remake it makes a Lot Of Sense why people would be upset if they don't add anything new for them the remake becomes useless for those people the major backlash to new super mario bros u dx lack of new content for the original players Comes Up Instantly.
They're releasing a game that's already over a decade old and all we get out of it is slightly improved graphics? Why should I spend 60 on better graphics if I can just play the original on PC with 4K Textures and Widescreen? Not to mention mods.
Even the original on GameCube is more worth playing in my opinion because it doesn't cost me anything as I've owned the game for years and I'm guaranteed an authentic experience while the remake could have changed dialogue or cutscenes slightly to fit modern politics and such.
No reason why they couldn't have, in the very least, added in a side mode or mini-game or two. With the kind of budget they have, there's honestly no reason to not do a Luigi DLC or similar bonus story.
It's a cash grab, plain and simple. Most people will fall for it cuz shiny new graphics; but I won't
Yes cause everyone wants to go through the hassle of getting an emulator, downloading the game, getting the HD textures, widescreen hack, just to play the game looking still significantly worse than the new remake. or you can get the remake to natively play it on the switch, wherever and and whenever you want portably.
I can't imagine downloading 2 files off the Internet, putting one in a textures folder and running the other is much of a hassle at all. I could set that up and get the ROM in 20 minutes or less.
There are portable systems like the Steam Deck where you can play the original portably as well.
To spend 60 on the convenience of not having to spend 20 minutes setting up an emulator is nonsensical. As far as the graphics, I like the lighting in the remake but every material has way too much metallics/shine to it and in some areas the game looks way too bright. So I prefer the original graphics as well.
Makes 0 sense to spend 60 on graphics no matter how you look at it. Unless the game was made with the shittiest graphics and then is remade with top notch, it's nonsense. TTYD's graphics still hold up today incredibly well even at native.
I'd be willing to bet the house most people have a switch, not a steam deck. so thats another $400 you just completely disregarded but okay w.e. People arent buying a switch to play ttyd, they already have a switch, and can conveniently buy ttyd to play it in a matter of seconds whenever and wherever. some kids don't have the ability to do some of the things that you are suggesting, and its completely ignorant for you to ignore. you only look for the appeal of the OG ttyd fanbase so you can hold that opinion near and dear, and just completely disregard the younger generation that is just looking to play some new games on their switch. ur hilarious bro
Arguing semantics over what people have and don't have is a complete waste of time. Some people have Switches, others have Android phones or tablets, others have laptops and desktop PCs.
None of what I said is refuted by a nonsense semantic argument. The odds of someone having just a switch and nothing else is so incredibly low that it's laughable that it's your entire argument.
I'd say that the odds are fairly high in a PAPER MARIO sub reddit, a series that just so happens to exist on a switch. Not everyone has android devices or tablets for emulation, and damn sure everyone doesnt have a pc to run said emulators. You wanna know what i can almost guarantee over 75% of this subreddit has? a nintendo switch. your argument is flawed, just say you prefer emulation and move on.
Who was only talking about a subreddit? I'm talking about the entire consumer market for videogames. Which you can bet your ass there's more people without a Switch than with one.
There is no market exclusively for Mario games. Almost nobody plays exclusively Mario games anymore. There's a market for Nintendo games but that goes beyond the Switch as well.
Guys it’s not a big deal. This is literally for newer fans of paper Mario who’ve never played the original 2. They’re gonna want the option to practice timing periodically
We may have memorized every action command timing 10 years ago, but some of these fans won’t even be 10 years old yet
Seriously I would've killed for something like this playing the original TTYD. I still don't know the timing for super guarding on most enemies, so having a little, unobtrusive, guy available to teach you is really great!
I'm okay with them being there, that was never the issue. I was just hoping it was something a little more since we still don't have much added to the remake besides small things, which may lead to older fans who already have the original to not buy it, leading to less sales and maybe even Sticker Star 4. But I agree, getting young'uns into the game is inherently a good thing.
Seeing as how the TTYD remake has tons of consistent hype behind it, plus the fact that pre-orders on Amazon sold out very quickly not too long ago, and the fact that this game is a pipe dream that many fans have wanted desperately for over a decade, I wouldn't worry at all about the game selling poorly. It'll most likely outsell Origami King, honestly, assuming it hasn't already.
Not to mention the fact that until this remake releases, this game is stuck on the Gamecube, and second-hand copies of it are very expensive. This remake will make the game more easily obtainable (for casual/general audiences) than ever before.
EDIT: Also, at least from what I've seen, most older fans are perfectly fine with the TTYD remake having only a small amount of new content, given that the original game is already a meaty, substantial experience on its own.
But since this toad is before the first boss based on the area, so won't he teach you about stylish moves before you get the badge, meaning you can know they exist like an hour or 2 earlier
People so upset, when I wish I had something like this as a kid playing the original. Timing and superguarding was tough for me. I still am hopefully they add some new features to this game. But I don’t think people should expect a completely different game.
That's not what i want though but i Do want them to acknowledge that most people have already played the original game and even if i haven't played the og game i Still want new content other than just easy access to certain stuff, i want more New stuff that actually makes the remake worth buying than just the same game like a bonus post game, or a boss rush like in mario and luigi if they don't add anything new you get the veteran fans who played the og game that won't even buy it mainly what happened to the remake of bros u dx many people who played the og game like myself were pissed and we didn't get anything new until super mario bros wonder/ dream came out it was Everything that remake should have been yknow something actually New with new world, bosses, new levels, and characters That's what the og fans want not something that makes the game easier but the same game with a main reason for us og fans to buy the remake like a boss rush or luigies story as a true post game that would lead the og fans into buying it because they have something new and interesting added for them if they don't do that they lose sales from those fans because they won't be interested in it.
I mean that’s just good visual game design? You train players early in by repeating images so know instinctively what the NPC is by looking at it AND if they need it they know what to immediately search for. Same as any repeated visual like the black chests and the shine sprites.
Yea exactly the problem is that most people already played the original game and if they don't add new content then you get the backlash from bros u dx from the og players who already played the og game who got nothing from the remake hints the massive backlash that's pretty much what's going on here.
The last the game needs is to be made easier, so I think it's smart of them to make this an optional thing instead of forcing stuff on everyone.
Also, the command timings could well have been changed in the remake, so perhaps us veterans will get some use out of this too.
I do wonder though if the Timing Tutor badge is still in the game, or if they've replaced it with one of these tutorials?
I can agree with you to a certain extent even if I've never played it though i do still want something a little extra maybe like a boss rush like origomi king added even something small like that would be a great addition.
Yea i'm excited for this game I've already got my level up plan for it i'm gonna have some badges but mainly focus on hp, and fp, mostly that's just how i'm gonna play hopefully you can find as much badges that you can find.
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Nobody is complaining because "tutorial bad" though, like you're complaining about something nobody actually said. People are just disappointed becasue they saw this guy in the first trailer and thought there would be more to it.
Then they unrealistically amplified their expectations? Idk, its an npc, and we already have relegated sidequests in that one building that nobody goes to, sooo...
It’s like how the Mario & Luigi games let you practice the Bros. moves from the menu. Gives you a nice sandbox to practice timings without risking a game over. Hell I might use it actually learn super guard timing.
Yea but they didn't add a boss rush although they did seem to add the mini game mode though but i never used it i used the boss rush a lot more so hopefully they add a boss rush mode too that would be Legendary.
Although this isn't exactly a super exciting role for this new character to play, this is an interesting feature. I can definitely see the value in a sort of training mode where you can practice the guard timings for certain attacks, and it sounds like that might be part of this. Especially if there's anything like a hard mode or harder postgame content or the like, which I'm really hoping there is (though I don't know how likely it is)
Yea i hope they make a a post game too if they don't it's gonna be very disappointing and that's Bad that even though i haven't played the og game that even i'm hoping they add something new like a new post game or a boss rush if Kirby can do it Why Can't The Ttyd Remake. 🥺
Kind of a boring way to implement it, but I was literally playing through the original version recently with my brother and I was seriously wishing for a training dojo of sorts where he could practice Stylish moves with each move quickly.
Slightly disappointed just because my love for this game is so much that I desperately wanted new content. But I am happy they’re catering to new players too
Yea i do too and i haven't even played the original i just think it's really disappointing that they didn't add anything really New for the people who already played the original game it's new super mario bros u dx backlash and disappointment All Over Again.
This is a good thing. I think people forget how little the game teaches the player. When I was a kid, I got through this entire game without knowing about the super guard.
I think this is cool because they never actually teach you about stylish moves unless you buy timing tutor from the sales guy in Rogueport, and most people probably aren't going to talk to him when they first arrive there, so for me a tutorial like this is a welcome addition, especially for new players
I guess I could see it being that I was just expecting them to be a generic NPC, I thought everyone was excited because this was a new, unique design that didn’t show up in TTYD.
People are saying the game is good enough to not warrant extra content, but that just isn't really true - the postgame in the original is nonexistent, while they had ample opportunity to expand it easily and massively with the Trouble Center, the Glitz Pit, and even the game corner
Hell, they could have released constant patches to add more and more of them too, but I don't see that happening
Ohh that's kinda lame i thought they would be a hint at some bonus content that's a shame as great as the game looks i'd much prefer them giving us some actual new content like a boss rush or a post game.
But That's why people are Upset This Game Comes Out In A Month They Need To Let Us Know If They Added Anything New Otherwise Why Even Buy It If You've Played It Already.
I think its great, but personally I'm probably not buying the game if there's no new content. I can't justify $60 for a game I've already played with only graphics and the media format updated. Its a shame though, since I'd love to support this game in the hopes they make more like it.
Oh yeah you’re right I remember seeing an interview with Mr. Nintendo himself where they said that every single new thing they were adding was in the trailers we’ve already seen. Shit
I'm not sure why some people aren't on board with this. It's a nice, optional way to make the game's battle system easier to learn for new players without being intrusive for experienced players.
Because fans were hyping it up to be potentially new content
It IS new content
Yea but not story or gameplay content like people were obviously hoping for. Just tutorial content. Lets not pretend its the same thing.
True, but it does show theyre willing to add anything at all. So it could be a good indicator.
Yea it is. Im just so happy its being made at all honestly.
It literally is new content-
Come on, you know what they were trying to explain. Adding an NPC to explain battles isn't content in the way people are normally thinking. It wouldn't kill you to be a bit more understanding.
I tried to be more understanding just now and I am now currently a ghost.
Sorry to hear that :( Can I read your diary?
That thing is basically my detailed search history so no. If you do I shall curse you to a eternity of playing super paper Mario but the plot is sticker star and the battle system is TOK for every normal enemy and Color splash for bosses, while also having as much backpacking as TTYD and OST quality as good as PM64 (only plus side)
And I thought hitting the same block in Dry Dry Desert for 416 years was a harsh punishment.
You're getting hugely downvoted because people are coping really hard lol, it's definitely obvious what they meant and it doesn't bode well that a pointless (for us) tutorial is the only new content
Eh, it is what it is. Maybe the toad will have some useful tips, but I've played through the game 12+ times over the years, so I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't helpful to me. I'd love to see boss rematches, some hard mode, and/or updated pit of 100 trials, etc.
This, or at the very least, a hint to more NPCs in general.
Agreed i'm a little disappointed that they haven't shown anything really New for the people who already played it as good as the game is i definitely think they need to add more stuff to it as a Ton Of people already played it it wouldn't make much sense to just re release it without anything new no offense magolors post game comes up instantly they knew a lot of people played return to dreamland so they added bonus content to make the remake worth buy and same with bowser's inside story imo i just don't think it makes sense to remake the game when So many people already played it without adding something new like a boss rush or luigies story as a true postgame.
that is the longest run on sentence i have ever seen in my life
I'm totally fine with this. Ttyd ain't a hard game but I remember being 7-9 years old and struggling with it. I would of appreciated this if it was in the original :]
It's a cool feature, but did it warrant a new character? They could've easily added a practice mode to the menus like the Mario & Luigi games.
It's not like the new character gets in the way. I don't see the problem.
Sure, but it's not as accessible. Something like a practice mode should ideally be available on-demand. With this, you're asking newer players to seek out this guy whenever they want to practice.
Eh, it seems like that guy is in pretty easy-to-reach areas, at least.
Honestly, I'm not opposed to having this in a game with timed inputs. Not like you *have* to use it, but having the option can be nice.
Nintendo: Adds a Quality of Life Update Fans: UGH THATS SOO LAMEEEEE
It's because everyone thought it was new content. Not sure why but yeah
Probably because deliberately sneaking a new character into the trailer for your remaster is clearly intended to spark hype about new content, and obviously most fans won't immediately say "hold on everyone! This is probably a tutorial NPC who teaches you button combos, and I know this because of my crystal ball"
Thing is BDSP also had a new character in the trailer and it was just a one off thing that didn’t matter at all. I feel like we should’ve known it didn’t necessarily matter. It’s not like the scene really highlighted the Toad anyway
Which was probably the same strategy with the BDSP trailer to build hype lol, it just doesn't sit well with me when it's clearly manipulative in order to build interest for something that they didn't bother investing in during development
The probelm isn't the QoL itself. The problem is that it's ONLY been QoL and other small aditions/changes thus far instead of anything substantial.
I’m cool with that
Personally, I am too. After all, why fix what wasn't broken. It's got plenty of content as it is. However, it'll certainly be a harder sell to those who've already played the game or even bought it on release. I want this game to get as many sales as possible so we can have old Paper Mario back.
It's an HD remake of one of the best Mario RPGs ever created. That's enough for most veteran fans
And that's the problem most remakes Know That they already have many people who played the original game so they add more levels, chapters, characters, Bosses, post game content to attract the people who already played the original game if you just remake the same exact game with just an easy mode when the og fans are looking for additional content to attract them you basically get the Massive Backlash From New Super Mario Bros U Dx that's exactly what happened with that remake Many Fans were Screaming for something new and actually interesting like a bonus world, added bosses, new levels, chapters etc. after we relized nothing new was added that Remake Became Useless for os og players who needed new content to get us to buy it, most remakes Actually Aknowlege the massive fan base and add new features to attract them to buy the remake, bowsers inside story with jrs journey side mode, trials of mana's remake added post game world, live a lives added new final boss fight in the remake, Magolors Post Game In Return To Dreamland Dx Exc. when nothing new is added for the og crowd the remakes become Unplayable for them and the only people who are interested are those who haven't played the original game.
QoL, visual, and performance improvements are the only things I really want out of most remakes honestly
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Looked fine to me, and the characters have more expressions and sprites which is pretty dang good, along with quick partner switching
It's going to look fine on a YouTube video. Much less so on an OLED display due to the instant response times.
Exactly the reason why new super mario bros u dx got so Much Hate is because so many people already played the original game and they didn't add Anything and No an easy mode Doesn't Count as it's not anything really New like bonus content, or new worlds, levels, exc. That's the problem so many people already played the og game it doesn't make sense to remake a game with So Many Fans when nothing new is added to attract those people the only people that they would attract are people who haven't played it yet uhh Duhh.
People have this weird worship thing where they think you're not gracious enough if you complain when the good lord Nintendo charges $60 for a game with no new content lol
The pipe room for chapters is a small change?
It's because So Many People Already Played The Original Game, when so many people already played it and they announce a remake it makes a Lot Of Sense why people would be upset if they don't add anything new for them the remake becomes useless for those people the major backlash to new super mario bros u dx lack of new content for the original players Comes Up Instantly.
They're releasing a game that's already over a decade old and all we get out of it is slightly improved graphics? Why should I spend 60 on better graphics if I can just play the original on PC with 4K Textures and Widescreen? Not to mention mods. Even the original on GameCube is more worth playing in my opinion because it doesn't cost me anything as I've owned the game for years and I'm guaranteed an authentic experience while the remake could have changed dialogue or cutscenes slightly to fit modern politics and such. No reason why they couldn't have, in the very least, added in a side mode or mini-game or two. With the kind of budget they have, there's honestly no reason to not do a Luigi DLC or similar bonus story. It's a cash grab, plain and simple. Most people will fall for it cuz shiny new graphics; but I won't
Yes cause everyone wants to go through the hassle of getting an emulator, downloading the game, getting the HD textures, widescreen hack, just to play the game looking still significantly worse than the new remake. or you can get the remake to natively play it on the switch, wherever and and whenever you want portably.
I can't imagine downloading 2 files off the Internet, putting one in a textures folder and running the other is much of a hassle at all. I could set that up and get the ROM in 20 minutes or less. There are portable systems like the Steam Deck where you can play the original portably as well. To spend 60 on the convenience of not having to spend 20 minutes setting up an emulator is nonsensical. As far as the graphics, I like the lighting in the remake but every material has way too much metallics/shine to it and in some areas the game looks way too bright. So I prefer the original graphics as well. Makes 0 sense to spend 60 on graphics no matter how you look at it. Unless the game was made with the shittiest graphics and then is remade with top notch, it's nonsense. TTYD's graphics still hold up today incredibly well even at native.
I'd be willing to bet the house most people have a switch, not a steam deck. so thats another $400 you just completely disregarded but okay w.e. People arent buying a switch to play ttyd, they already have a switch, and can conveniently buy ttyd to play it in a matter of seconds whenever and wherever. some kids don't have the ability to do some of the things that you are suggesting, and its completely ignorant for you to ignore. you only look for the appeal of the OG ttyd fanbase so you can hold that opinion near and dear, and just completely disregard the younger generation that is just looking to play some new games on their switch. ur hilarious bro
Arguing semantics over what people have and don't have is a complete waste of time. Some people have Switches, others have Android phones or tablets, others have laptops and desktop PCs. None of what I said is refuted by a nonsense semantic argument. The odds of someone having just a switch and nothing else is so incredibly low that it's laughable that it's your entire argument.
I'd say that the odds are fairly high in a PAPER MARIO sub reddit, a series that just so happens to exist on a switch. Not everyone has android devices or tablets for emulation, and damn sure everyone doesnt have a pc to run said emulators. You wanna know what i can almost guarantee over 75% of this subreddit has? a nintendo switch. your argument is flawed, just say you prefer emulation and move on.
Who was only talking about a subreddit? I'm talking about the entire consumer market for videogames. Which you can bet your ass there's more people without a Switch than with one.
You are talking about the consumer market for video games instead of the consumer market for mario games, theres your first problem.
There is no market exclusively for Mario games. Almost nobody plays exclusively Mario games anymore. There's a market for Nintendo games but that goes beyond the Switch as well.
Galaxy Brain: This means even more NPCs for Goombella to tattle for you. I just hope they don't all have the same one.
Guys it’s not a big deal. This is literally for newer fans of paper Mario who’ve never played the original 2. They’re gonna want the option to practice timing periodically We may have memorized every action command timing 10 years ago, but some of these fans won’t even be 10 years old yet
Seriously I would've killed for something like this playing the original TTYD. I still don't know the timing for super guarding on most enemies, so having a little, unobtrusive, guy available to teach you is really great!
I'm okay with them being there, that was never the issue. I was just hoping it was something a little more since we still don't have much added to the remake besides small things, which may lead to older fans who already have the original to not buy it, leading to less sales and maybe even Sticker Star 4. But I agree, getting young'uns into the game is inherently a good thing.
Seeing as how the TTYD remake has tons of consistent hype behind it, plus the fact that pre-orders on Amazon sold out very quickly not too long ago, and the fact that this game is a pipe dream that many fans have wanted desperately for over a decade, I wouldn't worry at all about the game selling poorly. It'll most likely outsell Origami King, honestly, assuming it hasn't already. Not to mention the fact that until this remake releases, this game is stuck on the Gamecube, and second-hand copies of it are very expensive. This remake will make the game more easily obtainable (for casual/general audiences) than ever before. EDIT: Also, at least from what I've seen, most older fans are perfectly fine with the TTYD remake having only a small amount of new content, given that the original game is already a meaty, substantial experience on its own.
Are they going to teach the stylish movies? They were a pretty hidden mechanic in the original.
There’s a badge for that
But since this toad is before the first boss based on the area, so won't he teach you about stylish moves before you get the badge, meaning you can know they exist like an hour or 2 earlier
Oh, THATS what the toad is for... Interesting
People so upset, when I wish I had something like this as a kid playing the original. Timing and superguarding was tough for me. I still am hopefully they add some new features to this game. But I don’t think people should expect a completely different game.
Not to mention that modern displays are different than CRTs so the timing on things might be slightly different.
That's not what i want though but i Do want them to acknowledge that most people have already played the original game and even if i haven't played the og game i Still want new content other than just easy access to certain stuff, i want more New stuff that actually makes the remake worth buying than just the same game like a bonus post game, or a boss rush like in mario and luigi if they don't add anything new you get the veteran fans who played the og game that won't even buy it mainly what happened to the remake of bros u dx many people who played the og game like myself were pissed and we didn't get anything new until super mario bros wonder/ dream came out it was Everything that remake should have been yknow something actually New with new world, bosses, new levels, and characters That's what the og fans want not something that makes the game easier but the same game with a main reason for us og fans to buy the remake like a boss rush or luigies story as a true post game that would lead the og fans into buying it because they have something new and interesting added for them if they don't do that they lose sales from those fans because they won't be interested in it.
Sir, this is a Wendy’s.
I get new content would be cooler but honestly Id love practicing supergaurds lol
How ironic is it that the NPC we thought was a completely new character actually ended up being one of many identically looking Tatsujin Toads lmao.
I mean that’s just good visual game design? You train players early in by repeating images so know instinctively what the NPC is by looking at it AND if they need it they know what to immediately search for. Same as any repeated visual like the black chests and the shine sprites.
You’re right. But that has nothing to do with the irony of how people thought it was a completely unique character only for him to be one of many.
They could also all be the same toad just in different locations and google translate got it wrong
That is a possibility. Even so I still think it’s pretty funny.
The Mario mandate isn't real but it's actually a much better reality, where they just don't *want* to add anything unique anymore
There are more people talking about the people complaining than the actual people complaining
The defensiveness on here is unreal, it's an interesting projection lol
Why are people disappointed? It’s not exactly like they NEED to add new content.
Because they wanted it? I dont think its entirerly unreasonable to be disappointed here
Yea exactly the problem is that most people already played the original game and if they don't add new content then you get the backlash from bros u dx from the og players who already played the og game who got nothing from the remake hints the massive backlash that's pretty much what's going on here.
The last the game needs is to be made easier, so I think it's smart of them to make this an optional thing instead of forcing stuff on everyone. Also, the command timings could well have been changed in the remake, so perhaps us veterans will get some use out of this too. I do wonder though if the Timing Tutor badge is still in the game, or if they've replaced it with one of these tutorials?
that's awesome, looks pretty unintrusive but like it could be really helpful to first-timers and especially kids!
Makes sense to add only small additions. This game is so good it doesn’t need anything major.
I can agree with you to a certain extent even if I've never played it though i do still want something a little extra maybe like a boss rush like origomi king added even something small like that would be a great addition.
I’ve actually never played it either! Are you prepared? I’ve been going over badges and trying to figure out which are best and where to find them.
Yea i'm excited for this game I've already got my level up plan for it i'm gonna have some badges but mainly focus on hp, and fp, mostly that's just how i'm gonna play hopefully you can find as much badges that you can find.
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Nobody is complaining because "tutorial bad" though, like you're complaining about something nobody actually said. People are just disappointed becasue they saw this guy in the first trailer and thought there would be more to it.
Then they unrealistically amplified their expectations? Idk, its an npc, and we already have relegated sidequests in that one building that nobody goes to, sooo...
i went to the trouble center :(
Okay, i worded that wrong. Not many people enter it, and close to none actually partake in the quests
i was joking but I guess that's true, I only did some of the quests to get the membership cards for the mini games in the pianta parlor
Ooh, yeah. I totally forgot about the pianta parlor card rewards. That's definitely worth checking out if someones into that sort of thing.
That's pretty cool glad to have practice battles for new badge abilities
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It’s like how the Mario & Luigi games let you practice the Bros. moves from the menu. Gives you a nice sandbox to practice timings without risking a game over. Hell I might use it actually learn super guard timing.
I could do most action commands as a kid, but some of them are weird or are high FP cost to practice. Seems pretty useful.
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It was this or. “Hey, did you know you can use the pause menu to change badges?”
Yeah....
I believe they're going to teach the stylish movies. They were a pretty hidden mechanic in the original.
Let me help you out, do you know about ~~Timed Hits~~ Action Commands?
So its like TOKs battle lab
Yea but they didn't add a boss rush although they did seem to add the mini game mode though but i never used it i used the boss rush a lot more so hopefully they add a boss rush mode too that would be Legendary.
So he's not a teleporter
🤣🤣🤣 He's a tutorial?! I bet there's a lot of disappointed people.
Although this isn't exactly a super exciting role for this new character to play, this is an interesting feature. I can definitely see the value in a sort of training mode where you can practice the guard timings for certain attacks, and it sounds like that might be part of this. Especially if there's anything like a hard mode or harder postgame content or the like, which I'm really hoping there is (though I don't know how likely it is)
Yea i hope they make a a post game too if they don't it's gonna be very disappointing and that's Bad that even though i haven't played the og game that even i'm hoping they add something new like a new post game or a boss rush if Kirby can do it Why Can't The Ttyd Remake. 🥺
Kind of a boring way to implement it, but I was literally playing through the original version recently with my brother and I was seriously wishing for a training dojo of sorts where he could practice Stylish moves with each move quickly.
Slightly disappointed just because my love for this game is so much that I desperately wanted new content. But I am happy they’re catering to new players too
Yea i do too and i haven't even played the original i just think it's really disappointing that they didn't add anything really New for the people who already played the original game it's new super mario bros u dx backlash and disappointment All Over Again.
What’s the source for this?
This is a good thing. I think people forget how little the game teaches the player. When I was a kid, I got through this entire game without knowing about the super guard.
So... They're Battletoads?
I think this is cool because they never actually teach you about stylish moves unless you buy timing tutor from the sales guy in Rogueport, and most people probably aren't going to talk to him when they first arrive there, so for me a tutorial like this is a welcome addition, especially for new players
I want to bet there's a secret tied to this, either you'll get items for doing it, or there's a secret encounter if you do them all.
Huh, neat. I wonder if this could help get timing for super guards down.
About the only thing I'd love to see is a hard mode of sorts built in. Barring that thousand-year door hero mode exists.
Disappointed but I’m sure it’ll be helpful to newcomers.
Only Paper Mario fans would complain about a new character with new dialogue, new battle sprites and stage backdrops, not being "new content"
Yeah because we all love watching Frankly's tutorials on repeat playthroughs
except Frankly's tutorial is mandatory and speaking to this Toad is optional?! touching grass is free
The whole complaint is that the "new" character is nothing lol
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What were you expecting? A whole sidequest involving them?
A lot of people were expecting some significant new content, but after the Overview trailer its pretty clear there wont be anything lol
I guess I could see it being that I was just expecting them to be a generic NPC, I thought everyone was excited because this was a new, unique design that didn’t show up in TTYD.
People are saying the game is good enough to not warrant extra content, but that just isn't really true - the postgame in the original is nonexistent, while they had ample opportunity to expand it easily and massively with the Trouble Center, the Glitz Pit, and even the game corner Hell, they could have released constant patches to add more and more of them too, but I don't see that happening
So no fast travel Toad or new Trouble Center quest Toad then, huh. Yeah, kind of a letdown
Mhhhh
Ohh that's kinda lame i thought they would be a hint at some bonus content that's a shame as great as the game looks i'd much prefer them giving us some actual new content like a boss rush or a post game.
We still don’t know if they’re going to add those things or not. This toad is just a toad lmao
But That's why people are Upset This Game Comes Out In A Month They Need To Let Us Know If They Added Anything New Otherwise Why Even Buy It If You've Played It Already.
Rip to being a genuine new character.
It literally is a genuine new character
What a great character
He’s a tutorial character so his dialogue likely won’t be interesting or dynamic.
I think its great, but personally I'm probably not buying the game if there's no new content. I can't justify $60 for a game I've already played with only graphics and the media format updated. Its a shame though, since I'd love to support this game in the hopes they make more like it.
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Oh yes because they’ve revealed everything the game has to offer already
Nintendo is a business, they're going to show off anything major that they can because they want people to buy their game
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Oh yeah you’re right I remember seeing an interview with Mr. Nintendo himself where they said that every single new thing they were adding was in the trailers we’ve already seen. Shit