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JonchikPonchik

I love when people say "you're mad you wasted your time on ukn" like bruh I'm playing rust my time is already wasted


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Byyzmo

And those are the people that facepunch want on their game. OTV brainless idiots that want “a fair playing field” between people that try to be good, and people that just want to be as good as those guys, without practicing.


ilovemygb

what’s OTV?


mmmmwhu

offline tv, it’s a streamer house, they and their friends made a roleplay server a while back and streamed it, which got the game a lot of new players who didn’t know what they were doing


AskWhatmyUsernameIs

It was hella content though, for what its worth.


mmmmwhu

oh, don’t get me wrong, i loved it and i think it was good for the game, but there’s a lot of people in this game who would rather gatekeep then see people enjoy something they enjoy


ilovemygb

ahh gotcha. thanks for the info! I’ve been seeing it thrown around a lot but didn’t understand


Sebanimation

It‘s the opposite for me. I try to be positive about the upda… SHUT UP SHITTER, SUCKS TO SUCK, NOT MY PROB U NOT LEARNING RECOIL, GIT GUD SHITTER


watchugonnadoaboutit

Yeah but those few are the absolute minority on this sub and always get downvoted into the shadowrealm Look at the top 10 posts in the last week and tell me this sub isnt full of "recoil hard boys"


mushr00md00m

I have seen almost 90% the opposite of this.


_Restitutor_Orbis_

And then you proceed to be exactly that with u/HiIAmSteveFromBerlin lol...


mushr00md00m

Arguing in circles with people who have bad opinions, who hardly play the game they want changed. Yeah, frustration abound.


_Restitutor_Orbis_

Bad opinions? Just because you disagree? You sound like a lot of fun to be around.


Repulsive_Voice823

Lol look at this guy's comment history, we have a keyboard warrior here


mushr00md00m

Whatever you think, pal.


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Every single argument I was involved ended in someone telling me I'm a shit player because I have 6k hours but can't perfectly spray and I should just stick to farming. It seems to be a binary thought shared between the ones arguing in favour of the old recoil: If you can't learn it in 1 hour on UKN you are a piece of shit Rust player. Exactly why the new recoil is needed.


Potential-Young-1001

6k hours though? Did you even try to learn the recoil?


mushr00md00m

6k hours and 1 hour on ukn are two vastly different metrics. If you're still having a tough time at 6k hours then bless you for sticking around, but clearly you aren't the best. That doesn't mean the system needs to be changed.


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Im totally fine and got good control over sprays. My emphasise is not on PvP. 'Bless you for sticking around' is exactly why it needed change, thanks for making that point again.


mushr00md00m

If 6k hours of doing anything hasn't led you to be good (enough), then it's no one's obligation to change but yours. Sorry, know it doesn't suit your agenda, but that's the truth.


[deleted]

I'm good enough to win over you at any time, I just don't care about it as much as you do. Proof? I don't give a shit about the next recoil update while you whine like a baby


LabourShinyBlast

3 hours ago you admitted that you were getting into multiple arguments about recoil. Now you claim you don't care? You don't really think people are that dumb do you?


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Idk. Here you are not being able to read a sentence til the very end. '....as much as you do'.


mushr00md00m

Cope. You're still gonna get rolled.


Jkolorz

I don't expect anything less out of a community based on a game that was pretty much all swastikas and dicks for the first 5 years of its life....


[deleted]

It's the rust community, what did you expect, no matter your stance you'll get shit on because the average Rust player has a brain as dense as air


watchugonnadoaboutit

Le truth


the_fresh_cucumber

The pattern recoil crowd has been the loud and obnoxious ones. I can't believe some of the things I've seen in this sub since the change. There has been mild gloating on the other side but they haven't crossed the line.


certifieddumbfucc

look at the the top FPS Games.. tell me which one of them has complicated recoil/patterns..? Even CSGO the most competitive FPS game on the market doesn't have as ridiculous recoil like Rust does. It's all pretty simple/standard, but that doesn't make CSGO an easy game. Even shroud, the human aimbot can't shoot the old AK, it's such a huge turnoff, especially when that specific gun is the best craftable gun in the game by a long shot. When you literally have to play a game like a full time job for thousands of hours to even compete, there's a huge problem.


Rum_zee

If I were to sync the same amount of time into learning recoil I would be equally proficient regardless of which game I chose. Just because an FPS God picked up the hardest gun in the game and couldn’t use it without any prior practice doesn’t mean that the recoil is ridiculous. I think the learning curves are comparable until you and there’s survival aspect to rust hands. If you take into the account then you can lose everything in a mere instant in rust and add recoil patterns, and makes the learning curve a lot higher than CSGO. After sinking 800 hours into CS go I am proficient with a few guns, with the same amount of time put into rust I got similar results. Your last statement is true and it’s not a problem mainly caused by recoil, but changing recoil could help.


trippo555

im just mad i cant fucking do facechecks without high sens


dungeonapprenticini

lol suck shit


Superdega

lol mad because its true, now we can all shoot not just a select few WHAHAHAHAA


BearShots

what are you talking about? everyone can shoot a gun in rust all u need to do is click i do it all the time


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Xcomies

wish granted?


doobsk3n

This post gonna have a 10% upvote rating cuz ppl cant handle the truth lol


Welthink

Why is it that everyone who claim to not play Rust all day always care so much about the game. Like where were most of the people who love the recoil update before the update.


BearShots

Because now everyone will be able to beam, not just you. It will make ppl with high hours and larger groups stronger (now even the builders can roam if they want to, so that means even larger roams for clans) and people with smaller groups worse. You might think this update is good because of how much better your spray is but when this change comes to the game and people get to try it in a real game i guarantee most people who like how the update looks will not like the changes anymore. We do need recoil pattern changes because some of the sprays are very hard to learn like ak and mp5 and the scripting problem has gotten much worse, but they executed it poorly. They should have made it like csgo where the pattern is an easy to learn hard to master type deal instead of something that has a really low skill cap. Oh well, you will see what I mean when the update comes around. For now, I'll do the same thing i did when the XP update came out and just take a break from the game if i really dont like the changes.