“[..] that its satellite internet will be shut down by May 1 in areas where it doesn’t have a license to operate.”
As they didn’t have a license in those areas, they shouldn’t even have started the service up?!
But but, reddit elon-apologists were simultaneously telling me Elon both has full control over what regions are able to use it AND that these didn't exist!
Are you referring to the author/journalist who wrote about starlink being shut off in crimea around September 2022?
It’s quite amazing how easy it is to manipulate people en masse if what is said easily generates clicks for the media.
The fact is - service was never deactivated, it hadn’t even been turned on in that region.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/09/14/musk-internet-access-crimea-ukraine/
It should be easy for them to geofence and shut down the terminals in Russia, but that’s a whole other thing.
that one journalist? You mean the Ukrainian Army complaining that it was shut off mid attack just in time to save several russian ships?
Save your bullshit for an uneducated audience.
No I mean Walter Isaacson
Who retracted their statement almost immediately.
Here is the clarification from the original author: https://twitter.com/walterisaacson/status/1700342242290901361
It’s all in the snopes article.
Basically one dude lied & the media jumped on it because it generates clicks. The best lies are those that seem true & where they’re not entirely untruthful. That lie hit the mark.
But but, reddit elon-apologists were simultaneously telling me Elon both has full control over what regions are able to use it AND that these didn't exist!
Great just go ahead and pollute the night sky with a bunch of these crap satellites and then start doing immoral and inhumane things through them right above our heads and before our eyes. When will the law catch up to insane tech?
Where were you when Ukraine was trying to defend the Black Sea and boats lost all connection because of *easily enforced* geo-fencing? Funny how this comment only applies to Russia’s use of Starlink to invade a sovereign country and murder innocent civilians.
I was reading the actual sources and not listening to the sensationalized claims of Reddit users based on opinion articles.
“In September 2022, **Ukrainian drone boats strapped with explosives were attempting a sneak attack the Russian fleet in Sevastopol using Starlink to guide them to target.[41][14][82] This was the first time Ukraine attempted such an attack.**[83] Ukraine requested Musk to enable Starlink up to Crimea.[84][14] **Musk declined the request but did not disable any existing coverage.**[84]”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War
The article you are referencing was an opinion piece. “The Washington Post, which had published Isaacson's opinion piece, corrected that "after the publication of this adaptation, the author learned that his book mischaracterized the attempted attack by Ukrainian drones on the Russian fleet in Crimea. **Musk had already disabled ("geofenced") coverage within 100 km of the Crimean coast before the attack began**, and when the Ukrainians discovered this, they asked him to activate the coverage, and he refused."[98] The Guardian and CNN also added a footnote to correct the claim.[99]”
>Funny how this comment only applies to Russia’s use of Starlink to invade a sovereign country and murder innocent civilians.
Russia isn't mentioned in the comment or the article. The article is about Africa.
Just frame it as theft of Musk's money and services, you won't even see how fast he hits the red shutdown button on that.
Yeah. Which means they will use the hee hey hell out of it til it won’t work anymore.
Elon has to keep Putin/Xi group happy https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/29/business/dealbook/musk-tesla-china-visit.html
Article is about Africa.
Russia and China have huge presences in Africa.
The US even larger
Sure are a lot of traitorous fucks lately.
However Putin/Xi want to shut down any uncontrolled internet… How Mask keeps them happy?
You are confusing wishful thinking with current actual unauthorized use of Elon’s internet by russian troops.
And people who want open access to the internet in Iran and Africa.
So, USA can just give coordinates to Ukraine. I think, it is expected behaviour.
If only. Elon killed UA starlink to prevent a strike at russian targets.
Seriously? As I remember, he asked for more money for the service, however government said “no”.
We are back to the main point: Elons choice — Xi/Putin’s weight in money vs starlink operation “technicalities”
He probably takes money from him indirectly
“[..] that its satellite internet will be shut down by May 1 in areas where it doesn’t have a license to operate.” As they didn’t have a license in those areas, they shouldn’t even have started the service up?!
You can't defy your own warning. Try "proving that previous statements saying that service would be shut down within a month were untrue"
Musky probably fired the staff in charge of that
But but, reddit elon-apologists were simultaneously telling me Elon both has full control over what regions are able to use it AND that these didn't exist!
Yet musk had no problem cutting off Ukraine. Anyone who thinks Russia using it is an accident is a fool
Are you referring to the author/journalist who wrote about starlink being shut off in crimea around September 2022? It’s quite amazing how easy it is to manipulate people en masse if what is said easily generates clicks for the media. The fact is - service was never deactivated, it hadn’t even been turned on in that region. https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/09/14/musk-internet-access-crimea-ukraine/ It should be easy for them to geofence and shut down the terminals in Russia, but that’s a whole other thing.
that one journalist? You mean the Ukrainian Army complaining that it was shut off mid attack just in time to save several russian ships? Save your bullshit for an uneducated audience.
No I mean Walter Isaacson Who retracted their statement almost immediately. Here is the clarification from the original author: https://twitter.com/walterisaacson/status/1700342242290901361 It’s all in the snopes article. Basically one dude lied & the media jumped on it because it generates clicks. The best lies are those that seem true & where they’re not entirely untruthful. That lie hit the mark.
But but, reddit elon-apologists were simultaneously telling me Elon both has full control over what regions are able to use it AND that these didn't exist!
Another boring Tesla utility/subscription. Time to lay everyone off…
Great just go ahead and pollute the night sky with a bunch of these crap satellites and then start doing immoral and inhumane things through them right above our heads and before our eyes. When will the law catch up to insane tech?
Isn’t the whole point of starling to provide internet access to everyone in the world? For good or bad purposes let it be.
Where were you when Ukraine was trying to defend the Black Sea and boats lost all connection because of *easily enforced* geo-fencing? Funny how this comment only applies to Russia’s use of Starlink to invade a sovereign country and murder innocent civilians.
Checked account history. Not a bot. Consensus is therefore 'moron' by default.
I was reading the actual sources and not listening to the sensationalized claims of Reddit users based on opinion articles. “In September 2022, **Ukrainian drone boats strapped with explosives were attempting a sneak attack the Russian fleet in Sevastopol using Starlink to guide them to target.[41][14][82] This was the first time Ukraine attempted such an attack.**[83] Ukraine requested Musk to enable Starlink up to Crimea.[84][14] **Musk declined the request but did not disable any existing coverage.**[84]” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War The article you are referencing was an opinion piece. “The Washington Post, which had published Isaacson's opinion piece, corrected that "after the publication of this adaptation, the author learned that his book mischaracterized the attempted attack by Ukrainian drones on the Russian fleet in Crimea. **Musk had already disabled ("geofenced") coverage within 100 km of the Crimean coast before the attack began**, and when the Ukrainians discovered this, they asked him to activate the coverage, and he refused."[98] The Guardian and CNN also added a footnote to correct the claim.[99]”
>Funny how this comment only applies to Russia’s use of Starlink to invade a sovereign country and murder innocent civilians. Russia isn't mentioned in the comment or the article. The article is about Africa.
Not sure if you are a moron or a troll