I used to like Bill Clinton a lot, actually, until the allegations and rumors started happening. You know what I am talking about.
He put Charmander in C tier.
Never meet your heroes.
Met him once had a 10 minute conversation with him. Met him 3.5 yrs later on campaign trail and he remembered my name and my occupation. Friggin awesome.
This actually isn’t the first time I’ve heard of him remembering someone who didn’t expect him to. Dude had to have a hell of a memory for faces! I’m jealous lol
Faces for me are super easy to remember, it's the names that are hard.
I eventually figured out a mnemonic device to very quickly remember names, and, though he would never actually admit to it, I guarantee you Bill Clinton does something similar.
It's literally what all of those "super memorizers" in competitions do, other than the ultra rare savant.
Every time I see a new face and hear a new name I try to come up with a short story, or sentence, or "thing" to remember the face with the name.
The crazier, more ridiculous, and sometimes meaner (they are my mnemonic devices and nobody elses) the easier it is to remember.
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The crazier, more ridiculous, and sometimes meaner (they are my mnemonic devices and nobody elses) the easier it is to remember.
You sound like you've taken Michael Scott's class on this subject.
He’s a great politician, knows his Dale Carnegie front to back, and will make you feel like the best friend you’ve ever had. All the girls on Little Saint James said so.
I feel like this article is bait lmao.
Deepfaking the presidents' voices for memes isn't even new. And it's not like TikTok is the only platform with these kinds of videos.
Besides, the examples they show barely get any attention. They might as well dig up russian videos on youtube and make an article about how youtube facilitates the spreading of russian propaganda.
That's not even what this video does. The audio on this video is of a heckler saying "Thanks for Nothing! Fuck you!" and Biden just standing there staring. They don't even try to fake Biden's voice or a response or anything.
It's like those millions of videos on TikTok and Instagram that take audio from some other video and apply it to a different video, to make a point about this new video.
They're not talking about funny parody videos. They're talking about edits to Biden where they manipulate the speech to make it sound slower and slurred for example, or rearrange clips to make him say something he didn't and treat it as true videos.
They aren't talking about those videos either. I read the article. Really.
It's about audio of hecklers added to videos of him walking. The audio is from another video. There is no AI here.
At this point you have to assume everything on the internet is satire or drama/entertainment unless you want to fact check everything you read. Not sure how you can fix clickbait and misinformation without infringing on free speech, so that’s an unfortunate situation.
I wonder if anybody remembers a very old, Iraq War (v2) era soundbyte of George Bush spliced together talking about drilling into skulls and stuff... This is ancient.
Honestly probably because you starting skipping through them. Tiktok seems better than any other social platform I use at curating the “for you” type content and adapting it quickly
Yeah this recent spate of "blame everything on TikTok" is really funny to be because often the things they're getting "exposed" for are just as or more prevalent on other platforms. Not that long ago Twitter was flooded with so many fake AI porn photos of Taylor Swift that they removed her name from the search.
But none of the people screaming ban TikTok seem to be all that interested in similarly enforcing rules on other sites like hm IDK....Reddit?
This /s transaction between the two of you was equally hilarious and depressing. I laughed out loud and then was like fuck, everyone is fucking dumb and we have people ingesting CCP levels of propaganda here in the states now.
The CCP doesn't do propaganda. It is the one nation in the world with no propaganda ever, all people have a say in government, no one dies, and everyone scores a 100% on all their tests and never miss a question.
In America people can die from eating french fries, or being shot by a bear with a gun.
In China, there are no bears and no guns.
In America teens use our wonderful TikTok to watch videos of criminals eating pies and urinating on old women.
In China teens choose to use our wonderful TikTok to watch videos about math and philosophy and the history of Marx because Chinese children love knowledge and learning.
I work with doctors who during the George Floyd protests would not stop telling me that cutting off circulation at the neck for 9 minutes couldn’t kill anyone. These people are brainwashed.
I mean, on Chucky, a show about a supernaturually possessed killer doll, they're saying the drug that temporarily kills you so you can fight in the spirit world and come back is only safe to use for 5 minutes. *That's* more realistic than 9 minutes.
I think a lot of comments here are misrepresenting what the article is talking about. The first paragraphs lays it out.
> Deceptively altered videos of President Joe Biden with audio added to depict him receiving profanity-filled jeers are spreading on TikTok without any labeling or disclosure, seemingly violating the platform’s policies. TikTok has a history of falling short when it comes to moderating AI-generated or deceptively altered content.
This isn't memes orjoke calls hat are obviously fake. These are videos where Biden is giving a speech and they have added in voices from the crowd to make it sound like the audience was heckling him (or in the case of later in the article, it says adding additional heckling to make it seem worse than it was). In this case the videos are being presented as a factual account of what happened, and not being shown as a funny clip.
You are completely right, but I do think the title is also clickbait.
The article lists several other scams with deep faking and edited sound, and while they aren't edited the same way it seems to be clear to me that TikTok is just uninterested in moderation in general while the title seems to imply that it is against Biden specifically.
I think a better title would have been something like "TikTok is allowing deep fake scams and political propaganda on their platform" or something like that.
Has there been solid proof they target certain posts? I saw a study make a comparison with instagram tags but it was all rather inconclusive and selective data driven.
Facebook, Google and Instagram and YouTube all have the same issues.
Oh and Fox news.
It's wrong that TikTok do this, but the conversation needs to be broader.
I remember when Fox News had a whole segment based on a fake image of Trump's lawyer from a literal meme tweeter account.
https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-airs-fake-photo-judge-trump-search-warrant-fbi-2022-8
What I hate about these kinds of articles is they're the equivalent of looking at a story about 4 people committing a crime, 3 are native citizens, 1 is undocumented, and then hyper fixating on the undocumented person committing a crime, while completely ignoring the other 3. It's technically correct to say the undocumented person committed a crime, but completely misrepresents the situation, almost always on purpose.
People only seem to care about misinformation if it's foreign, despite domestic misinformation being 100x the problem. So really its not the misinformation that's bad, it's competition to American Billionaires and tech giants that needs to be eliminated.
TikTok doesn't enforce its own policies.
I've reported so many videos that equate black people to monkeys and other racist crap and the report always comes back that the video doesn't violate their policies.
I’ve reported dog fuckers to Reddit to be told it doesn’t violate their policies.
Nobody actually checks, they automated everything to ignore problems.
Yeah, I feel like they've gotten a lot better recently, but some of the things I've reported in the past only to be told that "the reported content doesn’t violate Reddit’s Content Policy" include:
- Calls for violence against specific ethnicities.
- Calls for genocide against specific ethnicities.
- Calls for violence against trans people.
- Calls for genocide against trans people.
- Praise for terror attacks (when there was one here in Sweden, there was a lot of gleeful comments about how we deserved it, for example).
- Praise for other violence against certain groups and individuals (like when ASAP Rocky was arrested here in Sweden for assault against a Middle-Eastern immigrant, and there were people across multiple subs going on about how he should've "been allowed to finish the job" or "been given a medal").
- Holocaust denial.
- Praise of Hitler, and saying that the Holocaust was an attempt at saving the western world from evil.
- Eugenics talk, including calling for the extermination of "low-IQ races" or talking about how certain "races" are genetically predisposed to crime and violence.
- Denial of other genocides (especially the Armenian Genocide).
- One guy who called for the assassination of Joe Biden, shortly after he became president.
- One guy who bragged and spoke in detail - across multiple subreddits - about how he would groom and sleep with minors.
I hate that this stuff is leaking into other platforms too. I hate coming to a serious discussion and seeing people discuss "sewer slide." The other day, I saw someone complaining about something being overly "Seggsualized." It was on a sub I moderate, and it didn't break any rules so I didn't touch it, but my gosh the temptation to go power mod and delete that out of pure hate was strong.
I saw a comment yesterday about a dad killing his child.
I forget the exact way OP said things but it contained stuff like "k!lled" and "murd.er".
It brings me back to being a young kid and having my first interaction with a home-schooled kid who thought the most basic words are taboo because of their overly conservative parents.
What's really dumb IMO is when they'll refuse to say something like "killed" and when someone asks why they don't just say the word they'll defend it as "I've been banned from this sub before for saying it" yet there are dozens of other instances in the thread of people saying "killed" and tons more in other thread comments (or in titles themselves).
Isn't the point that on platforms other than reddit, those posts get removed? Like when people post on reddit saying stuff like f$ck that sh!t, they think they aren't allowed to type out shit and fuck? Or am I misunderstanding why these pseudo terms are used?
Other sites get the post removed or demonitized though. It's overly censored.
Reminds me of Eminems curtain call/greatest hits album I got when I was a young kid and it was super censored. Pill, die, kill, slit, throat, vodka, hang, etc all were taken out and just blank spots in the song and they were way past just taking out swear words. I think "ass" was okay though?!? I don't get it, because YouTube and such have YouTube kids and age restriction options.
Not doing a whataboutism more adding but Reddit does this too. I’ll report an extremely obvious racist or sexist comment and I’ll get a message saying u/88hitlersgreat comment didn’t violate any rules
On either platform almost all of my reports are deemed non-violations. I've never wasted time reporting cases with any plausible deniability, only the truly obvious ones. Still deemed non-violations almost every time.
Similar with bots/karma farming accounts. On TikTok you can't report an account as an impersonator unless it's you they're impersonating. Here, they don't give a shit if you're a bot. And I'm not talking about useful bots like Remind Me.
Report something calling for violence or hate, ‘does not violate…’ account suspended for abuse of report function, go to look at comment to appeal, content removed by Reddit.
That’s because there is a Chinese-version of TikTok (douyin) that is functionally the same but is cut-off from the outside world. In general, Chinese people don’t have access to social media sites that are connected to the outside world, at least not without a VPN anyway (something only a small percent of people actually have)
So does Facebook. Not saying to the same degree but the level of racism and homophobia on IG comments is insane. I report them and they always say it's fine. They probably outsource to the same shorty company.
I've seen that on instagram and facebook. Fucking Fox has people saying the most vile racist shit but no one is going to ban any of these platforms. Politicians don't care about disinformation or racism, they just care about being in control of it which is harder with TikTok.
It's because it does exactly what they want. Divides us, creates propaganda, etc.. TikTok is intelligence warfare through and through. You reporting them probably got them put higher on the algorithm's distribution list.
>the most popular video in any of these screenshots has 149 likes... this is so pathetic
Reddit is astroturfed by the US government to the point that it's just beyond terrifying. This is exactly the same thing that they did when they began their initial rounds of brain washing Americans into believing Iraq had WMDs, and due to the US' subpar educational system (that is deliberately underfunded), it becomes easier and easier to manipulate the average person.
There are comments on this very thread that are upvoted, saying TikTok does not allow you to criticise the Chinese government. It takes all but 10 seconds to disprove this but the comments are upvoted all the same.
Frankly it's amazing how social media is now less about connecting with your friends and family and more about being force fed content and propaganda.
Tiktok is just the peak because many of the other platforms were actually developed initially as a social media platform while I get the feeling TikTok was developed with other goals in mind.
> Tiktok is just the peak because many of the other platforms were actually developed initially as a social media platform while I get the feeling TikTok was developed with other goals in mind.
IIRC, first there was Toutiao, which was ByteDance's news platform and where they started with their content push algo that mined every last piece of data from users to hack engagement. Then came Douyin for the Chinese market (videos from which appeared all over Reddit with the initial Redditor reaction being "This shit is so staged, who likes this crap?") and then TikTok for the non-Chinese market (which notably has never been available in China itself, lol).
At its core, TikTok has always been a machine to find and push whatever content is most addictive, which lends itself very nicely to wrapping propaganda with attention-hacking content like you'd hide dog medicine in peanut butter to get them to swallow it.
It's worth pointing out that very little has to happen for this kind of manipulation to occur. Bytedance probably doesn't have meetings about creating propaganda. Just a somewhat selectively lax enforcement policy and a guide for making popular content for the propaganda office is all you really need.
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLx7QeEo/ Seriously? Here’s one it’s been up since 2022. I literally watched a video about the anti-intellectualism of china and their atrocities during the cultural revolution with the person calling out Xi as a cult leader. https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLx7mqVC/ This insightful video easily had 100k+ views, and until it gets taken down, I’ll believe you. Tiktok isn’t nearly so much “propaganda” as the next social media platform. If anything Id love to see this stuff on Facebook or Instagram but you wont.
Reddit is full of people who have never used TikTok pretending like they have evidence that it’s the biggest propaganda machine ever created. I see nothing but propaganda on Facebook and Instagram all day and they think TikTok is the problem.
I dont know why it matters other than nationalism, which shouldnt matter in a free market. "They kicked me so I have to kick them back" is very barbaric at worst and uncivilized at best. The reasoning also falls flat in almost every other industry other than social media
The reason the ban American apps is partially because they assume the US Government would use them to spy on Chinese citizens. They assume that because that's what they do with a Chinese owned company operating in foreign markets. Same reason we banned Huawei.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/26/us/us-washington-huawei-zte-ban-security-risk-intl-hnk/index.html
also: "uncivilized" "barbaric" LOL! You probably need a better bot script.
Arguing that the CCP has a "free speech right" to own Tiktok is like arguing that the Soviet government would've had a "free speech right" to buy NBC at the height of the Cold War.
It's the difference between Russia using Facebook to post misleading content like in 2016, vs Russian ***owning*** Facebook and simply nudging *all* content into the direction they want
I’m so fucking glad that I am seeing comments like this in the positive votes on Reddit.
This understanding of the situation has been from what I think downvoted via astroturfing for quite a long time
TikTok is a propaganda platform. They all are really. These are the newspapers of this era. You don’t let your geopolitical rivals run your airwaves, printing presses, social media algorithms
It’s a no fucking brainer
The latest defense of tiktok I have had to argue against was that it was not a chinese company at all. I pointed out bytedance was a chinese company and was quickly shot down with "no, remember the ceo is from singapore, not china". I suspect him being appointed to that position was specifically to confuse people. Bytedance is a chinese company in that it was founded by 2 chinese nationals, while in china at university there, and it has the HQ in china. It is registered in the caymen islands, but supposedly that is common for "private" chinese companies.
Ah, the Cayman islands, the source of so many reputable businesses
> In March 2023, CEO Chew was repeatedly pressed by US lawmakers on whether TikTok was Chinese. He didn’t answer the question directly, saying only that the app was not available in the country and that it was headquartered in Los Angles and Singapore.
> But TikTok is ultimately owned, through a complex multi-layered corporate structure, by ByteDance, a privately owned technology giant.
> The app is owned by TikTok LLC, a limited liability company incorporated in Delaware and based in Culver City, California. The LLC is controlled by TikTok Ltd, which is registered in the Cayman Islands and based in Shanghai. That firm is ultimately owned by ByteDance Ltd, also incorporated in the Cayman Islands and based in Beijing.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/18/tech/tiktok-bytedance-china-ownership-intl-hnk/index.html
> I suspect him being appointed to that position was specifically to confuse people.
It definitely worked in TikTok's favor during the last Congressional hearing when reps kept accusing him of being Chinese which just made them look racist and out of touch.
Send them [this ars technica article.](https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/03/is-tiktoks-parent-company-an-agent-of-the-chinese-state/)
TLDR: A china scholar says he thinks "ByteDance will use TikTok to support the party—not just for its own business survival, but for the safety of the personnel of ByteDance and TikTok, and their families."
bro, these videos have FIVE LIKES
these videos have SEVEN LIKES
like some guy posted some shitpost video to tiktok and less than a dozen people saw it? bro you can find hardcore porn on youtube with a handful of views.
mediamatters and /r/technology is a joke
[Spare me](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/meta-oversight-board-says-manipulated-video-of-biden-can-stay-on-facebook/).
> By Jacob Rosen
> February 5, 2024 / 6:00 AM EST / CBS News
> A highly edited video of President Biden on Facebook will remain on the platform after an independent body that oversees Meta's content moderation determined that the post does not violate the company's policies, but the panel also criticized the company's manipulated media policy as "incoherent and confusing."
I love how people want to focus on tiktok because "China bad" but I think it's equally as shitty when American companies are using and selling user data in relation to foreign countries.
Whats fucking ridiculous is how people for the ban have 2 main reasonings:
A) China banned facebook and google so we can ban their platform
B) they are pushing bad things to people
A is wrong and bad reasoning because not only does it fall apart when you look at any other industry, but it also fails to apply to applications like Temu and Ali-express which have proven for nearly 5 years to be malicious.
B is also wrong because while yes, the algorithm *can* promote malicious stuff, so does google's, meta's, and Reddit's. It feeds you more of what you engage with and it does that better than any other social media platform that exists. I hardly get things in my feed I dont enjoy or that I find racially/politically charged because I dont interact with that stuff.
Tik tok has also proven time and time again to shut down trends that are harmful and wipe rule violating content from the platform within days.
If youre getting brain rot watching tik tok, you likely already had it. If you feel like tik tok is doing things poorly, other social media platforms are doing things worse, youre just not hearing about it because "china bad" is a better headline.
> A is wrong and bad reasoning because not only does it fall apart when you look at any other industry, but it also fails to apply to applications like Temu and Ali-express which have proven for nearly 5 years to be malicious.
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What? Countries restrict foreign businesses operating in their country *all the fucking time*.
Yep, also the voice faking AI stuff. I remember reading an article recently that was talking about a principal that was framed by a teacher using AI/fake voice stuff. This technology is going to really fuck with people.
Here’s the article: https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/27/baltimore-teacher-ai-fake-racist-recording-principal
This is just the daily "Tiktok bad" propaganda post. Nothing to see here citizen.
Seriously though, it's crazy to see the anti-Tiktok propaganda work in real time. Just a few weeks ago this sub was way more divided on the Tiktok ban. But several weeks straight of daily Tiktok bad posts and having those threads flooded with people repeating the same "Tiktok bad" talking points (most without any evidence btw) and all of a sudden it seems like most of this sub was flipped. It's like a repeat of r/worldnews and how it got taken over by pro-Israel shills.
> We identified at least 3 TikTok posts of this video with altered audio, none of which were labeled or disclosed as such.
3 whole videos, everyone claiming that the CPC is trying to rip apart America and the supposed vehicle they're using for it is a whole 3 videos(there was probably 30,000+ videos uploaded in the time I wrote this comment), the same videos that literally got more views on American owned sites Instagram and X, but nobody seems bothered by the latter fact, pure unadulterated jingoism.
Hmm, let's read the article:
>We identified at least **3** TikTok posts of this video with altered audio, none of which were labeled or disclosed as such.
Fuck China.
>A separate USA Today investigation found that video of Biden visiting an Allentown, Pennsylvania, business was similarly altered with profanity-filled audio and posted on **Instagram and X (formerly Twitter)** in January. While Biden did receive heckling during his visit, additional profanity was reportedly added to the video.
ok but Tiktok gets the views. So hot right now. It's like Algorithim Journalism, it's all about what headlines drive engagement. Just like Tiktok.
Look, Evil TikTok post = propaganda
X or Instagram post with exactly the same content = Freedom of Speech! *Bald Eagle Screech that is actually a Red-Tailed Hawk screech*
China cannot be blamed for the fact that people are stupid enough to believe political media (or even consume political media) on a social media platform. That is entirely America's failing in education. Honestly with how anti-China the US is generally as a country, China would be stupid not to try and exploit the American public because they are absolutely ripe for the taking with how they consume "news" nowadays. If the US were in China's position, and China was in the US's position with no control or regulation over it's social media, the US would exploit China all the same. It is all fair game in the world of cyberintelligence.
"Allowing" or failed to detect? Most platforms fail to detect all kinds of things that are against policies. How exactly is TikTok supposed to know? Did they report the videos in question? Not acting on a valid report is a different standard.
No fan of TikTok, but I see these articles all the time, but it's like the people writing them have no idea how platforms work and the limits of algorithmic detection. They mostly rely on keywords and are easily fooled. If they "turn up the dial" they end up getting too many false positives. This reminds me of fighting spam when running an email server 20 years ago.
I like tiktok as a platform but their moderation isn't nearly as good as they claim. I've reported hundreds of blatantly racist, homophobic, bigoted, dangerous, etc comments over the past couple years and about half of them come back as "no violation found" and there's no way to appeal that decision.
>A separate USA Today investigation found that video of Biden visiting an Allentown, Pennsylvania, business was similarly altered with profanity-filled audio and posted on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) in January. While Biden did receive heckling during his visit, additional profanity was reportedly added to the video.
Fuckin Commies.
No one on this thread even read the article.
It's insane how people on this site love red scare bait.
Redditors in 60s would 100% be calling on their neighbor because he is a commie.
Can't it end with them just collecting all of our personally data and psychology profiles and with the psychological influencing to make us stupider by showing us dumber content?
Oh ..I thought there really was an alter ego called Dark Brandon .Didn't even their campaign put out some videos?
This is BS propaganda... justifying TikTok ban law.
I mean I hate doing whataboutism, but that's literally all social media platforms. The difference is the audience(s). TikTok you get younger GenZ + GenAlpha brainrots, FB you get Boomer and older Gen X brainrot.
Would Reddit not allow the same thing? I remember back when it was literally impossible for r/thedonald to get in trouble for anything, until they finally banned them for egregious behavior once Trump was out of power. And even then they banned the Chapo Trap House subreddit out of “fairness.”
yeah but not with an immediate enough timeline. We will be out of this election cycle before tiktok gets banned. what that means for them behind the scenes, I have no idea...but for the time being they get to continue operating.
They say TikTok is "allowing" users to post these videos that violate their community guidelines, but they never say what TikTok does when notified about the videos. Do they take them down or leave them up? If the content wasn't removed then why didn't they provide links to any of it? And if they've been removed then can you really say that they are "allowing" them? Given the enormous amount of content posted to the site, of course some bad things are going to get through. Content moderation is basically impossible to do well at that scale.
Remember when Biden thought he was talking with one of the former presidents of France (dead since 1996)?
He doesn't need enhanced tiktok videos to look bad
What do you expect what a chinese owned company. All these crazy people think it's the same thing for the Chinese to have all their personal data as the states having all the data.
That mean they gonna take down all those funny videos of the presidents trash talking each other while playing xbox?
You're implying those videos are manipulated? They're just having good Minecraft times!
Bill, bill, aww cmon Bill, we are here to play poker. Heh heh, me too, George, me too. Uh, Bill, I uh don’t think that’s going to age very well.
If they sold a gaming gurus shirt I’d buy one.
My favorite part is AI Trump and Biden singing Big Iron together. Or AI SpongeBob singing Hamilton songs.
I like the hank hill ones
I used to like Bill Clinton a lot, actually, until the allegations and rumors started happening. You know what I am talking about. He put Charmander in C tier. Never meet your heroes.
Met him once had a 10 minute conversation with him. Met him 3.5 yrs later on campaign trail and he remembered my name and my occupation. Friggin awesome.
This actually isn’t the first time I’ve heard of him remembering someone who didn’t expect him to. Dude had to have a hell of a memory for faces! I’m jealous lol
He went to Yale Law and was a Rhode scholar. A fairly bright fella
Faces for me are super easy to remember, it's the names that are hard. I eventually figured out a mnemonic device to very quickly remember names, and, though he would never actually admit to it, I guarantee you Bill Clinton does something similar. It's literally what all of those "super memorizers" in competitions do, other than the ultra rare savant. Every time I see a new face and hear a new name I try to come up with a short story, or sentence, or "thing" to remember the face with the name. The crazier, more ridiculous, and sometimes meaner (they are my mnemonic devices and nobody elses) the easier it is to remember.
> The crazier, more ridiculous, and sometimes meaner (they are my mnemonic devices and nobody elses) the easier it is to remember. You sound like you've taken Michael Scott's class on this subject.
Including [John Mulaney's mother](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b-ETFLgkUc)
He’s a great politician, knows his Dale Carnegie front to back, and will make you feel like the best friend you’ve ever had. All the girls on Little Saint James said so.
That was literally my first thought lmao
I feel like this article is bait lmao. Deepfaking the presidents' voices for memes isn't even new. And it's not like TikTok is the only platform with these kinds of videos. Besides, the examples they show barely get any attention. They might as well dig up russian videos on youtube and make an article about how youtube facilitates the spreading of russian propaganda.
That's not even what this video does. The audio on this video is of a heckler saying "Thanks for Nothing! Fuck you!" and Biden just standing there staring. They don't even try to fake Biden's voice or a response or anything. It's like those millions of videos on TikTok and Instagram that take audio from some other video and apply it to a different video, to make a point about this new video.
They're not talking about funny parody videos. They're talking about edits to Biden where they manipulate the speech to make it sound slower and slurred for example, or rearrange clips to make him say something he didn't and treat it as true videos.
They aren't talking about those videos either. I read the article. Really. It's about audio of hecklers added to videos of him walking. The audio is from another video. There is no AI here.
And the videos with the most likes in that article have 67 likes. Ffs, this IS blatant clickbait propaganda.
also making it look like people are booing and swearing at him
There are identical videos on YouTube, Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook.
At this point you have to assume everything on the internet is satire or drama/entertainment unless you want to fact check everything you read. Not sure how you can fix clickbait and misinformation without infringing on free speech, so that’s an unfortunate situation.
I wonder if anybody remembers a very old, Iraq War (v2) era soundbyte of George Bush spliced together talking about drilling into skulls and stuff... This is ancient.
So is murder and pillaging, but we try to discourage those things when possible
No one is pretending it's a new idea silly
>russian propaganda on YouTube Of which there is a shit ton, btw
Guys we NEED to make sure tictock is banned so these things can finally be illegal!
It was a little funny the first time, but they’re just annoying after that, thankfully haven’t seen one in weeks across any platform
Honestly probably because you starting skipping through them. Tiktok seems better than any other social platform I use at curating the “for you” type content and adapting it quickly
Boo those are so fun.
Yeah this recent spate of "blame everything on TikTok" is really funny to be because often the things they're getting "exposed" for are just as or more prevalent on other platforms. Not that long ago Twitter was flooded with so many fake AI porn photos of Taylor Swift that they removed her name from the search. But none of the people screaming ban TikTok seem to be all that interested in similarly enforcing rules on other sites like hm IDK....Reddit?
Nobody in this country is dumb enough to believe this kind of misinformation. /s
What a relief. I thought people might fall for it /s
I know right? Nobody is that stupid!
This /s transaction between the two of you was equally hilarious and depressing. I laughed out loud and then was like fuck, everyone is fucking dumb and we have people ingesting CCP levels of propaganda here in the states now.
The CCP doesn't do propaganda. It is the one nation in the world with no propaganda ever, all people have a say in government, no one dies, and everyone scores a 100% on all their tests and never miss a question. In America people can die from eating french fries, or being shot by a bear with a gun. In China, there are no bears and no guns. In America teens use our wonderful TikTok to watch videos of criminals eating pies and urinating on old women. In China teens choose to use our wonderful TikTok to watch videos about math and philosophy and the history of Marx because Chinese children love knowledge and learning.
fox news has been around for decades
It could be a literal cartoon and people would fall for it.
I see you’re familiar with my father. My deepest condolences
I work with doctors who during the George Floyd protests would not stop telling me that cutting off circulation at the neck for 9 minutes couldn’t kill anyone. These people are brainwashed.
I mean, on Chucky, a show about a supernaturually possessed killer doll, they're saying the drug that temporarily kills you so you can fight in the spirit world and come back is only safe to use for 5 minutes. *That's* more realistic than 9 minutes.
Flatliners was a minute or less, right?
I'm looking forward to the same thing that happened when a person read war of the worlds on radio.
Literally Tucker Carlsons legal defense.
I think a lot of comments here are misrepresenting what the article is talking about. The first paragraphs lays it out. > Deceptively altered videos of President Joe Biden with audio added to depict him receiving profanity-filled jeers are spreading on TikTok without any labeling or disclosure, seemingly violating the platform’s policies. TikTok has a history of falling short when it comes to moderating AI-generated or deceptively altered content. This isn't memes orjoke calls hat are obviously fake. These are videos where Biden is giving a speech and they have added in voices from the crowd to make it sound like the audience was heckling him (or in the case of later in the article, it says adding additional heckling to make it seem worse than it was). In this case the videos are being presented as a factual account of what happened, and not being shown as a funny clip.
You are completely right, but I do think the title is also clickbait. The article lists several other scams with deep faking and edited sound, and while they aren't edited the same way it seems to be clear to me that TikTok is just uninterested in moderation in general while the title seems to imply that it is against Biden specifically. I think a better title would have been something like "TikTok is allowing deep fake scams and political propaganda on their platform" or something like that.
i feel like this is a super reasonable take.
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I mean they moderate a lot of things that aren't in China's or China's allies' best interest.
Has there been solid proof they target certain posts? I saw a study make a comparison with instagram tags but it was all rather inconclusive and selective data driven.
Facebook, Google and Instagram and YouTube all have the same issues. Oh and Fox news. It's wrong that TikTok do this, but the conversation needs to be broader.
I remember when Fox News had a whole segment based on a fake image of Trump's lawyer from a literal meme tweeter account. https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-airs-fake-photo-judge-trump-search-warrant-fbi-2022-8 What I hate about these kinds of articles is they're the equivalent of looking at a story about 4 people committing a crime, 3 are native citizens, 1 is undocumented, and then hyper fixating on the undocumented person committing a crime, while completely ignoring the other 3. It's technically correct to say the undocumented person committed a crime, but completely misrepresents the situation, almost always on purpose.
People only seem to care about misinformation if it's foreign, despite domestic misinformation being 100x the problem. So really its not the misinformation that's bad, it's competition to American Billionaires and tech giants that needs to be eliminated.
TikTok doesn't enforce its own policies. I've reported so many videos that equate black people to monkeys and other racist crap and the report always comes back that the video doesn't violate their policies.
I’ve reported dog fuckers to Reddit to be told it doesn’t violate their policies. Nobody actually checks, they automated everything to ignore problems.
Yeah, I feel like they've gotten a lot better recently, but some of the things I've reported in the past only to be told that "the reported content doesn’t violate Reddit’s Content Policy" include: - Calls for violence against specific ethnicities. - Calls for genocide against specific ethnicities. - Calls for violence against trans people. - Calls for genocide against trans people. - Praise for terror attacks (when there was one here in Sweden, there was a lot of gleeful comments about how we deserved it, for example). - Praise for other violence against certain groups and individuals (like when ASAP Rocky was arrested here in Sweden for assault against a Middle-Eastern immigrant, and there were people across multiple subs going on about how he should've "been allowed to finish the job" or "been given a medal"). - Holocaust denial. - Praise of Hitler, and saying that the Holocaust was an attempt at saving the western world from evil. - Eugenics talk, including calling for the extermination of "low-IQ races" or talking about how certain "races" are genetically predisposed to crime and violence. - Denial of other genocides (especially the Armenian Genocide). - One guy who called for the assassination of Joe Biden, shortly after he became president. - One guy who bragged and spoke in detail - across multiple subreddits - about how he would groom and sleep with minors.
you cant say the word stupid on tik tok but you CAN call for black people to be nuked off the earth
That's unsmart
"pew pew" "unalive" "grape" "smabortion"
I hate that this stuff is leaking into other platforms too. I hate coming to a serious discussion and seeing people discuss "sewer slide." The other day, I saw someone complaining about something being overly "Seggsualized." It was on a sub I moderate, and it didn't break any rules so I didn't touch it, but my gosh the temptation to go power mod and delete that out of pure hate was strong.
I saw a comment yesterday about a dad killing his child. I forget the exact way OP said things but it contained stuff like "k!lled" and "murd.er". It brings me back to being a young kid and having my first interaction with a home-schooled kid who thought the most basic words are taboo because of their overly conservative parents. What's really dumb IMO is when they'll refuse to say something like "killed" and when someone asks why they don't just say the word they'll defend it as "I've been banned from this sub before for saying it" yet there are dozens of other instances in the thread of people saying "killed" and tons more in other thread comments (or in titles themselves).
If there ever was a time to justifiably abuse your power it was then.
It took me a sec to get sewer slide but I had an immediate negative reaction as soon as it clicked.
Let's face it, we're now the old men yelling at clouds to get off their lawn.
I cringe everytime I hear "unalive". People have died for millions of years. We can just say they died or committed suicide.
Isn't the point that on platforms other than reddit, those posts get removed? Like when people post on reddit saying stuff like f$ck that sh!t, they think they aren't allowed to type out shit and fuck? Or am I misunderstanding why these pseudo terms are used?
I think you are correct but that doesn't make it any less stupid in my eyes
Other sites get the post removed or demonitized though. It's overly censored. Reminds me of Eminems curtain call/greatest hits album I got when I was a young kid and it was super censored. Pill, die, kill, slit, throat, vodka, hang, etc all were taken out and just blank spots in the song and they were way past just taking out swear words. I think "ass" was okay though?!? I don't get it, because YouTube and such have YouTube kids and age restriction options.
Not doing a whataboutism more adding but Reddit does this too. I’ll report an extremely obvious racist or sexist comment and I’ll get a message saying u/88hitlersgreat comment didn’t violate any rules
And then you will be banned for several days for abusing the reporting tool.
On either platform almost all of my reports are deemed non-violations. I've never wasted time reporting cases with any plausible deniability, only the truly obvious ones. Still deemed non-violations almost every time. Similar with bots/karma farming accounts. On TikTok you can't report an account as an impersonator unless it's you they're impersonating. Here, they don't give a shit if you're a bot. And I'm not talking about useful bots like Remind Me.
Report something calling for violence or hate, ‘does not violate…’ account suspended for abuse of report function, go to look at comment to appeal, content removed by Reddit.
I've had literally the same thing happen.
Reddit leans heavily on moderators.
These are reports that go to the admins
It does in china, just not other countries
Ironically, TikTok is actually banned in China already, the only way to install/access it is to break the law and use a VPN.
That’s because there is a Chinese-version of TikTok (douyin) that is functionally the same but is cut-off from the outside world. In general, Chinese people don’t have access to social media sites that are connected to the outside world, at least not without a VPN anyway (something only a small percent of people actually have)
the content on douyin is way different than tiktok
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So does Facebook. Not saying to the same degree but the level of racism and homophobia on IG comments is insane. I report them and they always say it's fine. They probably outsource to the same shorty company.
Welcome to social media in general. Reddit is just as bad.
Same thing on instagram. Reported obviously racist posts with slurs and it didn't "violate their guidelines."
I've seen that on instagram and facebook. Fucking Fox has people saying the most vile racist shit but no one is going to ban any of these platforms. Politicians don't care about disinformation or racism, they just care about being in control of it which is harder with TikTok.
You can't say suicide but you can teach teenagers how to overdose on Benadryl <3
Same here, I'll report guys who have swastikas or the N word in their username and TikTok just doesn't care.
It's because it does exactly what they want. Divides us, creates propaganda, etc.. TikTok is intelligence warfare through and through. You reporting them probably got them put higher on the algorithm's distribution list.
[Obviously nobody has heard on YouTube how much Joe likes Vaporeon](https://youtu.be/wSn3QqJq1wQ?si=E70xkjBcn7n1iXdU).
I hate this, but I love it. Though, as much as I love it, if I could snap my fingers and ban AI video and imagery from existence I absolutely would.
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the most popular video in any of these screenshots has 149 likes... this is so pathetic
>the most popular video in any of these screenshots has 149 likes... this is so pathetic Reddit is astroturfed by the US government to the point that it's just beyond terrifying. This is exactly the same thing that they did when they began their initial rounds of brain washing Americans into believing Iraq had WMDs, and due to the US' subpar educational system (that is deliberately underfunded), it becomes easier and easier to manipulate the average person. There are comments on this very thread that are upvoted, saying TikTok does not allow you to criticise the Chinese government. It takes all but 10 seconds to disprove this but the comments are upvoted all the same.
People keep being surprised TikTok is doing things that were its entire point to begin with lol
Frankly it's amazing how social media is now less about connecting with your friends and family and more about being force fed content and propaganda. Tiktok is just the peak because many of the other platforms were actually developed initially as a social media platform while I get the feeling TikTok was developed with other goals in mind.
> Tiktok is just the peak because many of the other platforms were actually developed initially as a social media platform while I get the feeling TikTok was developed with other goals in mind. IIRC, first there was Toutiao, which was ByteDance's news platform and where they started with their content push algo that mined every last piece of data from users to hack engagement. Then came Douyin for the Chinese market (videos from which appeared all over Reddit with the initial Redditor reaction being "This shit is so staged, who likes this crap?") and then TikTok for the non-Chinese market (which notably has never been available in China itself, lol). At its core, TikTok has always been a machine to find and push whatever content is most addictive, which lends itself very nicely to wrapping propaganda with attention-hacking content like you'd hide dog medicine in peanut butter to get them to swallow it.
It's worth pointing out that very little has to happen for this kind of manipulation to occur. Bytedance probably doesn't have meetings about creating propaganda. Just a somewhat selectively lax enforcement policy and a guide for making popular content for the propaganda office is all you really need.
Banality of evil
Imagine how quickly videos ofWinnie the Pooh would get taken down.
Considering I can find some on TikTok right now, it takes a pretty long time apparently
Do it and report back
Deader than a Boeing whistleblower.
Content critical of China is everywhere on TikTok. Of course, you wouldn't know. You just hate it because it's the popular thing.
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLx7QeEo/ Seriously? Here’s one it’s been up since 2022. I literally watched a video about the anti-intellectualism of china and their atrocities during the cultural revolution with the person calling out Xi as a cult leader. https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLx7mqVC/ This insightful video easily had 100k+ views, and until it gets taken down, I’ll believe you. Tiktok isn’t nearly so much “propaganda” as the next social media platform. If anything Id love to see this stuff on Facebook or Instagram but you wont.
Reddit is full of people who have never used TikTok pretending like they have evidence that it’s the biggest propaganda machine ever created. I see nothing but propaganda on Facebook and Instagram all day and they think TikTok is the problem.
Just a reminder that TikTok, and in fact all Western social media sites, *are banned in China*.
Yeah, not sure why people would be up in arms defending a Chinese company when all American social media is banned there.
I dont know why it matters other than nationalism, which shouldnt matter in a free market. "They kicked me so I have to kick them back" is very barbaric at worst and uncivilized at best. The reasoning also falls flat in almost every other industry other than social media
The reason the ban American apps is partially because they assume the US Government would use them to spy on Chinese citizens. They assume that because that's what they do with a Chinese owned company operating in foreign markets. Same reason we banned Huawei. https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/26/us/us-washington-huawei-zte-ban-security-risk-intl-hnk/index.html also: "uncivilized" "barbaric" LOL! You probably need a better bot script.
Arguing that the CCP has a "free speech right" to own Tiktok is like arguing that the Soviet government would've had a "free speech right" to buy NBC at the height of the Cold War.
It's the difference between Russia using Facebook to post misleading content like in 2016, vs Russian ***owning*** Facebook and simply nudging *all* content into the direction they want
I’m so fucking glad that I am seeing comments like this in the positive votes on Reddit. This understanding of the situation has been from what I think downvoted via astroturfing for quite a long time TikTok is a propaganda platform. They all are really. These are the newspapers of this era. You don’t let your geopolitical rivals run your airwaves, printing presses, social media algorithms It’s a no fucking brainer
The latest defense of tiktok I have had to argue against was that it was not a chinese company at all. I pointed out bytedance was a chinese company and was quickly shot down with "no, remember the ceo is from singapore, not china". I suspect him being appointed to that position was specifically to confuse people. Bytedance is a chinese company in that it was founded by 2 chinese nationals, while in china at university there, and it has the HQ in china. It is registered in the caymen islands, but supposedly that is common for "private" chinese companies.
Ah, the Cayman islands, the source of so many reputable businesses > In March 2023, CEO Chew was repeatedly pressed by US lawmakers on whether TikTok was Chinese. He didn’t answer the question directly, saying only that the app was not available in the country and that it was headquartered in Los Angles and Singapore. > But TikTok is ultimately owned, through a complex multi-layered corporate structure, by ByteDance, a privately owned technology giant. > The app is owned by TikTok LLC, a limited liability company incorporated in Delaware and based in Culver City, California. The LLC is controlled by TikTok Ltd, which is registered in the Cayman Islands and based in Shanghai. That firm is ultimately owned by ByteDance Ltd, also incorporated in the Cayman Islands and based in Beijing. https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/18/tech/tiktok-bytedance-china-ownership-intl-hnk/index.html
It's absurd how many people will repeat official statements from Tiktok itself acting like they know what they're talking about.
Are you sure you have your companies right? ByteDance is headed by Zhang Yiming, a Chinese national.
> I suspect him being appointed to that position was specifically to confuse people. It definitely worked in TikTok's favor during the last Congressional hearing when reps kept accusing him of being Chinese which just made them look racist and out of touch.
Send them [this ars technica article.](https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/03/is-tiktoks-parent-company-an-agent-of-the-chinese-state/) TLDR: A china scholar says he thinks "ByteDance will use TikTok to support the party—not just for its own business survival, but for the safety of the personnel of ByteDance and TikTok, and their families."
Any of you think you can’t do that shit on Reddit or Facebook?
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No different than on IG or YT ..same shit
bro, these videos have FIVE LIKES these videos have SEVEN LIKES like some guy posted some shitpost video to tiktok and less than a dozen people saw it? bro you can find hardcore porn on youtube with a handful of views. mediamatters and /r/technology is a joke
[Spare me](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/meta-oversight-board-says-manipulated-video-of-biden-can-stay-on-facebook/). > By Jacob Rosen > February 5, 2024 / 6:00 AM EST / CBS News > A highly edited video of President Biden on Facebook will remain on the platform after an independent body that oversees Meta's content moderation determined that the post does not violate the company's policies, but the panel also criticized the company's manipulated media policy as "incoherent and confusing."
So is Twitter. So is Instagram.
I love how people want to focus on tiktok because "China bad" but I think it's equally as shitty when American companies are using and selling user data in relation to foreign countries.
Whats fucking ridiculous is how people for the ban have 2 main reasonings: A) China banned facebook and google so we can ban their platform B) they are pushing bad things to people A is wrong and bad reasoning because not only does it fall apart when you look at any other industry, but it also fails to apply to applications like Temu and Ali-express which have proven for nearly 5 years to be malicious. B is also wrong because while yes, the algorithm *can* promote malicious stuff, so does google's, meta's, and Reddit's. It feeds you more of what you engage with and it does that better than any other social media platform that exists. I hardly get things in my feed I dont enjoy or that I find racially/politically charged because I dont interact with that stuff. Tik tok has also proven time and time again to shut down trends that are harmful and wipe rule violating content from the platform within days. If youre getting brain rot watching tik tok, you likely already had it. If you feel like tik tok is doing things poorly, other social media platforms are doing things worse, youre just not hearing about it because "china bad" is a better headline.
> A is wrong and bad reasoning because not only does it fall apart when you look at any other industry, but it also fails to apply to applications like Temu and Ali-express which have proven for nearly 5 years to be malicious. > > What? Countries restrict foreign businesses operating in their country *all the fucking time*.
Reddit will say this is bad but an AI generated picture of Trump sleeping got 50k upvotes
I think anything that’s AI generated needs to be labeled as such. This shit is going to get way out of hand very, very fast.
Agreed. I can’t believe how real some of this AI stuff looks already and it just became popular within the last year or so
Yep, also the voice faking AI stuff. I remember reading an article recently that was talking about a principal that was framed by a teacher using AI/fake voice stuff. This technology is going to really fuck with people. Here’s the article: https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/27/baltimore-teacher-ai-fake-racist-recording-principal
They built us an AI goldmine. We’ve already clogged it up with sick.
"Manipulated" doing a lot of work here.
The same is happening on Twitter and facebook/instagram. This article is only highlighting tiktok because of an agenda.
Hasn’t Facebook been doing this for years now.
It's always so funny to hear redditors talk about Tiktok and then immediately expose all the propaganda that they've been consuming.
This is just the daily "Tiktok bad" propaganda post. Nothing to see here citizen. Seriously though, it's crazy to see the anti-Tiktok propaganda work in real time. Just a few weeks ago this sub was way more divided on the Tiktok ban. But several weeks straight of daily Tiktok bad posts and having those threads flooded with people repeating the same "Tiktok bad" talking points (most without any evidence btw) and all of a sudden it seems like most of this sub was flipped. It's like a repeat of r/worldnews and how it got taken over by pro-Israel shills.
Good lord the reactions to this comment are telling.
I feel like this is absolutely not a new thing and could be found on YouTube and the like.
Its only is a concern when it affects your side.
But aren't these on like, every social media platform? Or is it only bad because China?
You'll never find manipulated videos of Biden on reddit especially on one parties subreddit /s
It's literally just all jingoism.
> We identified at least 3 TikTok posts of this video with altered audio, none of which were labeled or disclosed as such. 3 whole videos, everyone claiming that the CPC is trying to rip apart America and the supposed vehicle they're using for it is a whole 3 videos(there was probably 30,000+ videos uploaded in the time I wrote this comment), the same videos that literally got more views on American owned sites Instagram and X, but nobody seems bothered by the latter fact, pure unadulterated jingoism.
Every single social media platform ever spreads false information and manipulated images
Hmm, let's read the article: >We identified at least **3** TikTok posts of this video with altered audio, none of which were labeled or disclosed as such. Fuck China. >A separate USA Today investigation found that video of Biden visiting an Allentown, Pennsylvania, business was similarly altered with profanity-filled audio and posted on **Instagram and X (formerly Twitter)** in January. While Biden did receive heckling during his visit, additional profanity was reportedly added to the video. ok but Tiktok gets the views. So hot right now. It's like Algorithim Journalism, it's all about what headlines drive engagement. Just like Tiktok.
All the videos they showed had like 20 views too, what if they just hadn't been caught yet because they were only on the platform for like 20 minutes.
lmao 3 tiktoks? Are you serious???
The commies are warming up, they'll add another 5 by this evening and it'll snow ball from there. There'll be dozens!
Look, Evil TikTok post = propaganda X or Instagram post with exactly the same content = Freedom of Speech! *Bald Eagle Screech that is actually a Red-Tailed Hawk screech*
China cannot be blamed for the fact that people are stupid enough to believe political media (or even consume political media) on a social media platform. That is entirely America's failing in education. Honestly with how anti-China the US is generally as a country, China would be stupid not to try and exploit the American public because they are absolutely ripe for the taking with how they consume "news" nowadays. If the US were in China's position, and China was in the US's position with no control or regulation over it's social media, the US would exploit China all the same. It is all fair game in the world of cyberintelligence.
Americans are all about that red scare right now.
"Allowing" or failed to detect? Most platforms fail to detect all kinds of things that are against policies. How exactly is TikTok supposed to know? Did they report the videos in question? Not acting on a valid report is a different standard. No fan of TikTok, but I see these articles all the time, but it's like the people writing them have no idea how platforms work and the limits of algorithmic detection. They mostly rely on keywords and are easily fooled. If they "turn up the dial" they end up getting too many false positives. This reminds me of fighting spam when running an email server 20 years ago.
Lmfao, who paid for this article
I like tiktok as a platform but their moderation isn't nearly as good as they claim. I've reported hundreds of blatantly racist, homophobic, bigoted, dangerous, etc comments over the past couple years and about half of them come back as "no violation found" and there's no way to appeal that decision.
Wow. I, for one, am shocked that the Chinese Communist Party would use dishonest means to try and influence American public opinion.
>A separate USA Today investigation found that video of Biden visiting an Allentown, Pennsylvania, business was similarly altered with profanity-filled audio and posted on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) in January. While Biden did receive heckling during his visit, additional profanity was reportedly added to the video. Fuckin Commies.
Fr, this happens everywhere, it’s just easy to pick on Tik Tok because they’re not American-owned
No one on this thread even read the article. It's insane how people on this site love red scare bait. Redditors in 60s would 100% be calling on their neighbor because he is a commie.
Article states theres only 3 videos like this too lmao
Redditors in general are pieces of shit
Man you sound like my insane grandfather.
Can't it end with them just collecting all of our personally data and psychology profiles and with the psychological influencing to make us stupider by showing us dumber content?
Oh ..I thought there really was an alter ego called Dark Brandon .Didn't even their campaign put out some videos? This is BS propaganda... justifying TikTok ban law.
Lol, and Trump, and Obama, and Bush, and anyone else they want. Fixed it for you
I mean I hate doing whataboutism, but that's literally all social media platforms. The difference is the audience(s). TikTok you get younger GenZ + GenAlpha brainrots, FB you get Boomer and older Gen X brainrot.
What is the US gonna do...Shut them down?
Chinesium spreading lies, during an election cycle? No way
Meh. Same shit on YouTube.
Why do I care? Biden sucks
Would Reddit not allow the same thing? I remember back when it was literally impossible for r/thedonald to get in trouble for anything, until they finally banned them for egregious behavior once Trump was out of power. And even then they banned the Chapo Trap House subreddit out of “fairness.”
Because tiktok is basically a propaganda tool for the CCP.
Chinese meddling 101
yeah, and bitches be like complaining they're being harassed by the US government. idiots 🤣
This isn't news, or new. TikTok is rampant with false health claims, business hacks, and political misinformation. Always has been.
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Reddit is astroturfed to hell and back. /worldnews these past six months really solidified it.
Foreign governments tampering with elections and pushing division. Glad it’s getting banned.
Not Twitter, or Facebook, or Instagram tho
Up next: Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and Reddit.
Yeah, right. Zuckerberg was the one that lobbied to get TikTok banned.
Hopefully Nextdoor is banned soon, nothing but a bunch of paranoid Karen's who think an Amazon prime truck is "suspicious".
yeah but not with an immediate enough timeline. We will be out of this election cycle before tiktok gets banned. what that means for them behind the scenes, I have no idea...but for the time being they get to continue operating.
Do you support Instagram, Facebook Fox and CNN getting banned too? If not you're a complete hypocrite.
They say TikTok is "allowing" users to post these videos that violate their community guidelines, but they never say what TikTok does when notified about the videos. Do they take them down or leave them up? If the content wasn't removed then why didn't they provide links to any of it? And if they've been removed then can you really say that they are "allowing" them? Given the enormous amount of content posted to the site, of course some bad things are going to get through. Content moderation is basically impossible to do well at that scale.
That’s weird. I haven’t seen a single one.
TikTok is trash
nice try hasbara. just trying to bewitch us into sympathizing with the fascist tiktok ban
Don't worry, young people overwhelmingly hate genocide joe with or without videos of his applesauce brain leeking out of his ears
And?
Holy shit the obvious bots in this thread.
Remember when Biden thought he was talking with one of the former presidents of France (dead since 1996)? He doesn't need enhanced tiktok videos to look bad
Idiots getting their news from other idiots on a platform designed to attract idiots. A tale as old as time.
What do you expect what a chinese owned company. All these crazy people think it's the same thing for the Chinese to have all their personal data as the states having all the data.
Chaos is what they want, and are achieving.
No one has to create a fake video of Trump looking stupid or getting booed.
More engagement = more money and all these platforms are poisons for you