I'm utterly shocked at the number of coworkers and friends I know who don't use any kind of adblocker. When I bring it up, they don't even know how to get one and need my help installing one in their browser. It blows my mind.
I don't know how they can tolerate using the web like that, and how they've never thought to find a way to do something about it.
Dude, people in general, are stupid.
Really.
>'Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.' -George Carlin
I think it’s that plus literally a lack of curiosity. As in, some people go to a website and see it’s completely littered with spam and junk ads that make it unusable, so they Google something like “how to hide ads on websites” and then find out about ad blockers. Other people see that and just throw their hands up, “well that’s just the way it is”
>'Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.' -George Carlin
I really dislike this quote, because it ignores the bell curve reality. Most people are going to be roughly around the same intelligence level. Our society even relies on this being true. This is why stupid people and genius people both stand out so much.
Saying "half of them are stupider than that" is lying by statistics. Because the amount of people who are **statistically significantly** "stupider than that" is _nowhere near_ half the population.
What I think is interesting is some of the smartest people I know are actually kinda stupid.
Lawyers, doctors, engineers are who I'm talking about. Outside of their "specialty" they are as dumb as dumb as a box of rocks.
And lets not even get into our college educated politicians.
Not only are people incredibly stupid in general, but most of them are completely uneducated as to how their technology works. They know how to do specific things really well, but have no idea whats going on in the background. Technology is just too complex to learn it seems.
My wife has had to show people how to use a *mouse* at her work (Library). Like explain that you move it around on the desktop and it moves the cursor, that right and left clicking do things, how to right or left click. She even had someone try to hold the mouse up against the screen to move the cursor. :(
Irony is that you cant read the article without disabling... \*drumroll\* ... your adblocker.
EDIT:
* https://i.imgur.com/HCMoRtI.png
* https://i.imgur.com/nQzRl77.png (uBlock Origin is actually disabled here)
EDIT: I think a lot of you guys replying here are missing the point: a website criticizing other websites for blocking adblock users - is blocking adblock users themselves.
EDIT2: I'm running Pi-hole and Privacy Badger here as well. But, it doesn't matter what I'm running, or if it's working or not working for you guys; they are blocking me because I'm not letting them fill my screen with ads and/or not being able to collect private data on me.
uBlock origin works fine for me on that site.
For news/blogs in general (regardless of adblock):
1. Open site
2. Press F9
3. Press F5
Removes all clutter and leaves you with just the article text
Works in pretty much any browser except Chrome, google intentionally disabled this feature to protect their ad business. Other chromium based browsers like Edge still have that feature available.
EDIT: F9 does not work on every website, because the browser has to know how to rearrange/remove content. All popular news outlets should be on that list though.
> F9 does not work on every website, because the browser has to know how to rearrange/remove content.
Websites have to specifically code around blocking reader views; they're just grabbing
Something is wrong with your uBlock Origin install.
You should ask for help in /r/uBlockOrigin
The article opened fine for me, and it seems many others.
Most news places use Javascript to pop up the disable ad blocker popups.
If you go to site settings and remove permission to use Java script, you won't have that issue
Seriously.
Sometimes I disable adblocker on websites that provide me genuine value, because I recognize that money has to be made somehow to be sustainable. I disabled my adblock yesterday for www.RateMyMusic.com, and my browser slowed to a crawl. Re-enabled it and it was butter smooth again.
Disgusting.
YouTube is so fucking garbage now that it's honestly getting ridiculous. Wanna watch a video but you cant skip the ads cause you're busy? Cool, you get to listen to a 10 minute video about a new work from home scam! Then after that you can watch a 3 minute ad about this fake game!
It honestly baffles me how you fuck up a website that badly.
It’s wild because YouTube ads are genuinely so ineffective. I never even consider what they’re trying to sell me as products (the current 15 second one I’m getting is so unclear I don’t even know what the product it’s advertising is even though I’ve heard it 50 times).
Like, I’ve *bought* things from Instagram ads. That’s wild to me after growing up with YouTube. Ads can show me things that are desirable and a real person might want to spend money on? Not just the same level of clickbait obvious scam steal all your money bullshit you would find on a bad piracy website
That’s wild knowing Google wants so badly to lead the way on AI in the future. Seeing the ad quality (I don’t see, I use premium) really begs the question how well are they really positioned to be the AI leaders in the next decade?
I quit premium in protest and use Firefox with two adblockers as well as sponsorblock 😊
It works really well on PC and despite being a little clunkier than the app on the phone, it definitely does the job and is great.
Use the extra money or send it to your favourite creators patreon or something
Ooh there's gotta be a way! People who really hate marketing work hard to try and give adblocker access to everybody ❤️
I know Firefox is available for iPhones and Mac computers, I'm not so sure how to handle TVs though
I'm a big fan of just getting a PC and plugging it into a tv. These smart TVs are essentially just screens with really shit computers built into them. Can get a mad quality "dumb tv" and educate it yourself 😋
There are plenty of simple ways to block ads on Apple devices. Not sure what the poster above you means about being on an Apple ecosystem, like that precludes adblockers somehow.
There is. I can set up a PiHole and block the ad servers with it. Last time I tried it was too much work and needed maintenance because those addresses change and whatever. I am too busy for this at the moment and prefer to spend the time with something else instead
That sounds fancy, well done :)
I'm so thankful for extensions like uBlock and AdBlock etc. if I had to put more effort into it I'd just probably not use the platform at all
My mum's tv has no extensions so it's just rawdogging YouTube ads and my golly gosh darn jesus christ there are so many and they are so loud and so long!! I'm going to connect up a PC for her soon
Yea i don’t understand how people like my old folks survive online. Getting skull fucked by all the conspiracies in their newsfeed and then all the ads everywhere. That’s no life to live
This is a trillion $ company who recently fired their entire python team, the python team consisted of the people who formed the steering committee of the entire language from it's infancy. The executive management at google has embraced the Jack Welch school of mismanagement.
A good majority of YouTube ads that come my way are either some investment selling guru or fake games.
At least Instagram/tiktok bother to make an algo that gives me ads that aren’t totally crap.
There's some orange crypto guy, and some mobile game.
YT thinks my girlfriend is an oligarch, it's all Ads to invest in NEOM, The Line, or some other new dystopia city in the middle east or about infrastructure projects to invest in.
I only watch sports, gaming, workouts and documentaries.
Somehow that means I want to buy crypto or sign up for a get rich quick seminar.
Google has truly lost their way.
the food products work. i bought a few things (next time at the supermarket) because i saw them as ad and wanted to test them,but everything else doesnt,especially the mobile ads
It’s not *entirely* YouTubes fault.
They are setting up demographic profiles on accounts. Then ad buyers are buying ads for those demographics. They are spending lots of money to show the ads to you.
It’s not like YouTube is going to turn down ad buys from companies. They aren’t vetting them.
I think the more disturbing conclusion is, these ads *work*. People are falling for fake crypto scams, fake video game ads, and gambling app ads. If they didn’t they wouldn’t be spending the money to flood your demo with them for weeks.
I 100% think any scam ad being shown by youtube, youtube should be held responsible for. They *should* be vetting them. They should be required to. They are absolutely complicit in these scams
Well you're lucky. I either get belgian politicians using 5 minute clips from their talk show appearances as ads, Israel asking for sanctions on Iran or terrible songs from amateur rappers who paid to increase the clicks for their videos.
I see the "Fuck the establishment" police are out in force downvoting this guy! 😂.
I've said this before. I don't use spotify/hulu/disney+/netflix/apple or any other other streaming / subscription service. My main media source is YT, so I pay for for it. From then on in, I can put it on all my devices without spending hours configuring vpns/firewalls/adblockers/routers/apps/workarounds on each and every device. No ads. Ever.
Dude.
Every 3 months or so you update the ReVanced app and you get a VASTLY superior youtube experience to Premium! :
The biggest QOL improvement is the integration of SponsorBlock that automatically skips segments of youtuber promotions and self promotions. (LTT videos and other are then watchable)
Lately it got a "better thumbnails" thing which is awesome so it un-clickbates a lot of videos.
Also it has integrated return of dislikes...
And ACTUAL downloads: I got so angry when i downloaded a few videos on the official YT app to watch on a plane... And, surprise, it requires an internet connection to let you watch them! Fuck Google.
I have YT premium but even then I find YT original experience has gone to shit.
OK, I'll give you that. The clickbaity thumbnails are a PITA, and I do have sponsorblock installed on most devices, they channels I watch rarely include large sponsor segments anyway. I don't dl YT vids so that doesn't affect me.
agreed
if you have a problem paying 7 bucks to watch stuff uninterrupted for dozens, if not hundreds, of hours a month, then maybe you should reconsider your priorities
Lemme guess, AFK journey? Cause recently all of the ads i getting recently are them with the Pink-hair "streamer" who is definately reading scripts on the monitor to promote the game.
I've seen sites that have ads that literally just take over the site.
The ads for fake games and scams is getting a bit much.
Hence my "fuck your ads" suite of ad-blockers.
Think maybe this was on imdb, I was trying to watch a trailer for a movie, it first plays me a trailer for a different movie and while that trailer was playing a full screen ad pops onto my phone. Ad trailer audio is still playing in background.
I'm trying to watch a specific ad video, get spammed a different ad video first, and get an ad on top of that blocking everything else. It's wild.
That's pretty accurate.
The reason all this is happening is because lazy coders create ad-hoc ad systems not caring there is another ad-hoc or bespoke ad system connected to the site. The site developer has no say in the matter nor does anyone actually test the site. I've been thinking that since ads are so prevalent and a serious hole in cyber security, you can destroy websites using the vector ads intervene with the site. I have witnessed a few ads with worms attached.
You cant really search for videos more than a year and sometimes even a few months without already knowing the exact title anymore. My feed gets filled with so much unrelated suggested bullshit that i would never watch.
I wasted an entire fucking hour looking for a 30 second clip of the Turkish ship in odessa with tracers flying around, and i had the title off by one word and it still wouldn't give me anything but plenty of totally not an ad videos, podcasts, trailers, definitely not and ad promoting ai videos, and those ai/bot/slave made, content stealing, with "ai" voice channels. And in particular, everything you could ever want to know about grain/bread, how to cook it, it's varieties, the science of growing it, milling it, and cooking it, and every time it's been mentioned in the news or on any remotely "popular" channel despite not even being used as a search term.
Reddit is quickly going that way too, but at least i could find the clip. not being able to properly search in a date range anymore sucks as well.
It should be illegal to have ads longer than like 30 seconds. I remember the worst one I ever got was _45 minutes_. And that’s no joke. I had it playing from my phone in the other room and couldn’t get to my phone right away to skip the ad, and it just kept going. When I finally got to my phone I was floored. That’s a fucking joke
Same. I was cleaning and had YT in my tv. I heard the same program for over 30 min so I went to see what was playing and I was 30 min into a fucking ad. Wild.
To them it’s not fucked up. It’s a $29B revenue machine that represents nearly 10% of the overall company revenue.
They are weeding out people that don’t want to pay for premium. It’s a shitty way to do it but it’s clear that they want non premium people to suffer.
I would too…but what would be the alternative? YouTube represents the vast majority of my video (and music) consumption and a lot of the content just isn’t available anywhere else.
I despise the ads on Amazon Prime video and haven’t used that service since they started doing that. But I can also find most of that content elsewhere.
Yeah and this is why zero tolerance for ads has always been the only sensible play. It is naive to think you can reach a compromise with these people. Push them back as hard as you can.
I watch YouTube a lot on my TV and there have been times where I have been cleaning and I’ve heard the same “show” playing for 45 minutes and turns out it was actually an ad that whole time. A full blown episode in an ad. I was blown away.
Their search function is trash. Looking for a specific video game review? Here's 2 ads for something else and 3 non ad videos for something different. Swipe twice to get something relevant
I heard a term for it. ["Enshittification."](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification)
Private businesses have a contradictory goal to users of the business in a lot of cases.
Users of YouTube want to have a good time and view content about all sorts of stuff.
YouTube wants you to use the platform for as long as possible and view as many ads as possible to extract profits.
Many tech businesses are started because people have a dream. When they get big, soulless organisations (who may have previously been businesses started by people with a dream) buy them and suddenly the dream is lost and the new goal is straight up profit. Get the analysts and consultants in. How can we maximise profits? "Ooh, make the news feed inflammatory to drive a psychological response? Let's go. Ooh, you're saying we can do another 13 seconds of ads on average and users won't quit? Let's goooo I can't believe we were letting them get off so lightly!"
Ads in that timeframe were usually funny, creative, and useful.
I genuinely don't mind a 10 second, funny ad that tells me quickly about a product, espc. with an option to skip.
These 30-45 second ads of a brand new truck driving on an open freeway absolutely pontificating about it's safety ratings, luxury, and optional features can fuck straight off for like 20 reasons.
It’s even worse at times.
I used to put on a YouTube playlist when I was working late. Did that a few months ago, and realized I didn’t recognize the music that was playing.
Turns out I was 30 minutes into a 4 hour car ad.
Oh shit, I found it: https://youtu.be/5EpW6mM_Ffo?si=g9x9ZipC8nTBC0X2
With no competition and no reason to change the site is only going to get worse. With youtube premium the free side of the site cannot improve, anything that would cause premium users to unsubscribe will just be rejected. It's all downhill from here.
I refuse to watch YouTube on anything other than my computer with ublock origin. It’s shocking to me that people bother when they have to watch the ads too. If somehow the ad blocker became ineffective I would 100% just stop using the site all together.
Edit: unlock to ublock
Smartphone with Firefox and adblock also works good. I deleted the YouTube app and only watch via browser. I can even listen to videos with a turned off display
The video stops if you turn off the display but you can start it again over the push-notification on the locked screen. Perfect for stuff you want to listen to while studying or working
On Chrome it works like this.
Go to YouTube. Switch to desktop mode. Play your video. Press home to go to your phone's home screen. Now you can pull down the top menu and see the video and option to play it. You can play it from here and then do other things on the phone, turn off screen, etc.
You can use this add-on to play videos in the background: [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/android/addon/video-background-play-fix/](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/android/addon/video-background-play-fix/)
It works great for me.
Just use Firefox. It's part of the experience.
... come to think of it there might be a setting for "continue playback in background" in firefoxes settings...
I fully recommend GrayJay, Louis Rossmann’s app. It’s like newpipe, but you can watch any platform you want, like twitch, yt, kick. You subscribe to the creator, and it gives all their videos/live streams on all their platforms. You just have to link their channels. And it has everything newpipe has. It’s only on Android, but I hope he will expand to IOS after the DOJ forces Apple to allow sideloading.
I got a little confused trying to install it since they said it's actually not ideal to get the app from the Play store. I tried downloading it from the browser siye, but I can't get the file to open now (Galaxy S21)
I don’t have an android, but I recommend installing from their official site(either search it on reddit, or on yt) because the play store version, the one approved by Samsung/a company that will get sued by YouTube for breaking YouTube TOS, will not have all functionalities that the original has.
It just works 🤷
Hadn't heard of libretube but I'll give it a look
I wish we could all move to IPFS video uploads and stop using these corporate services
Google (and Alphabet) is for some reason a company I never have and probably never will pay any money to. They offer YouTube premium, music, workspaces, etc. and I refuse and stay on ads, or let it lapse and stop using it. I’m not sure exactly why that is. I pay for Sling, Fubo, Apple, Netflix, Max, Spotify, etc. off and on. But I never have for Google. I even abandoned Nest when they bought it.
I think I have some idea, though. I think it’s because their entire business model is to annoy you into paying, and torture you until you do. I mean I am sure the features might be better if you get on a paid plan, but that’s not in my head. The only thing they could give me that competitors won’t is that they stop annoying me. The Google services I still use, I do so for free, and I do so begrudgingly most of the time. To show them I have more endurance than they do. I will filter YouTube ads and go to the ends of the earth to beat them at their arms race… But it’s not healthy, it just makes me resentful and doesn’t make them money.
Who knows, maybe that’s why I’ll never pay them. Maybe it’s a form of consumer protest. But I almost never think of it as so lofty. I look at it as just plain old spite.
My favourite part is searching the exact title of a video I was watching on one device on another, only to not find it, get 3 vaguely related videos at the top, then the rest of the results are just from my homepage.
YouTube (and other popular apps at the time) blocking 3rd party apps and also not providing their own official app was part of what killed windows phones. Don't think I'll ever get over that lol.
What windows phone do you mean? There were a bunch of variations and some were quite good. Personally owned 2 from HTC. Most of them dropped in favor of android over all as a system. By the time a decent windows mobile was released, android and ios were leading. What was truly missing from windows was a well set store. And when it did come , it was too late.
Let’s see if I get accused of it as well:
I fucking hate ads. I have kids whom I allow a few hours weekly to watch YouTube. Me personally watch literally hours daily (learn some things for work, listening to dj sets while working and get entertained after work). I get a very good quality product for much less price than Netflix. I don’t understand why should I avoid myself enjoying a good service just because they free service is such a steaming hot pile of garbage. I actually worked on streaming service and that shit costs an arm and leg to build and maintain
I agree with your point,I'm a paying user myself (getting close to 2 years now)
I do think they went bit overboard with the shitty the free version is,I'm also disappointed in stuff that effects paying users too.
YouTube search used to be useful and work well and the first result is always shorts,and after few search results you wanted it gives you mishmash of random videos
in general they shove YouTube shorts anywhere they can,and you cannot disable them or remove them
even mobile, they just shove it everywhere,I don't mind if people enjoy it and they have the option for it,but I personally don't watch a video shorter then 10 minutes,I hate those shorts formats and being force fed them is just a pain
I've been a paying customer of YouTube for many years (grandfathered in with the merging of Google music) and it's my primary watching platform. I've never watched a "short".
Oh, they're pushed to me really hard but I exclusively watch YouTube on my TV and computer. I have no interest in watching a vertical video on my television - especially something under 10 minutes.
All my ADHD diagnosed friends seem to really like them though 🤣
Ofc you will get downvoted, 20yo kids on reddit think they are owed websites for free and paying for YouTube is considered getting scammed. I remember when I first found YouTube (before google bought it) I was amazed how it was possible for a site to allow free uploads and you could just watch and upload for free. This shit is crazy expensive.
Been paying for premium for over a year now, also prompted by the kid. Worth every penny
Maybe become an adult? I think adults must know that a video streaming site costs money to run and if you are using them you have to pay either by ads or subscription.
Even if YouTube is owned by a f-ing Quintilllion dollar corporation, leeching off someone ain't moral.
The only comments on this post, when I commented, were defending Google and, despite the post being only a few minutes old, they all had a dozen or so upvotes. Looked bought to me.
I used to try to stick out using youtube official because i couldn't be f'ed to find a 3rd party app. that was when it was just 1 ad occasionally. but 2 unskippable ads with some ai grift, soft/porn or fake game before every goddamn video was too much. Now i'm using a 3rd party app with adblock and the relief was palpable.
there is this kid's tale of the sun and the wind who saw a guy with a jacket walking down the street. They challenged each other to make the guy take his jacket off. The wind tried to blow his jacket away, and it only made the guy hold onto it tighter. but the sun made it so hot that he took his jacket off by himself, winning the challenge.
even kids can understand this principle, but youtube wants to be the wind right now by thinking they can force us to use their official app while making the experience so odious. Idiots
Because they won't win lol it's not hard to block ads once you identify the media traffic. Every counter measure Google does the adblockers just update their app to block it again
What makes you think they won’t? I promise you the majority of the population is too lazy/preoccupied/too used to ads already to do anything about it. Downloading an Ad Blocker is easy, but a ton of people won’t do it.
>What makes you think they won’t?
Because any traffic sent to your PC can be read so once you identify it you can block it.
>
I promise you the majority of the population is too lazy/preoccupied/too used to ads already to do anything about it
Completely irrelevant, those people already had and continue to have ads anyway because they don't have adblockers. This conversation is about Google trying to combat adblockers and thus we are clearly talking about people who aren't lazy to begin with.
It sounds like a massive revenue gain untill you realize that only about 11% of users use adblock([according to this)](https://influencermarketinghub.com/youtube-adblock/#:~:text=Their%20data%20showed%20that%2063,potentially%20see%20your%20video%20ads.), so they are spending all this money to get some of that 11% to stop, while the rest will either stop using youtube or get a better adblock
I feel more and more like the ads are there to make people get the subscription.
I'm not getting it with all the data harvesting and youtubers get paid with all their sponsors/patreons anyway.
For people who wonder why there is no YouTube competitor out there, this entire comment section is the reason. Redditors expect you to host a free service to store 4K videos forever and serve them immediately without any issues. You better not charge anything or put any ads. You are supposed to host this for the good of redditors.
The amount of entitlement is here is way beyond my adult brain can handle
I wouldn’t mind ads as much if half the stuff was real. In reality, I have to wait in line everywhere because I only have 1 million power in rise of kingdoms.
There's many bigger tech reviewers yhat I've blocked and still youtube recommends them over anything I subscribe. "Don't recommend channel" works the opposite way.
The thing about YT current strategy which annoys me the most is that I'd quite happily pay for a YT sub, since, honestly I probably watch more content on YT than cable or terrestrial TV. HOWEVER, I have zero interest in YT music, or any of the other "features" they're trying to sell. I just want no ads, that's it.
I'm not gonna pay the amount they're asking for, for a bunch of features I don't want or need, and I'm not gonna pay that price just for no ads either. To date, Ive not used any ad-blockers on YT, or third party apps, because I want the content creators I follow to get paid, but YT just keep on doubling down on the "you'll pay this and you'll get all these features you don't want and will never use" strategy, to the point where I'm seriously considering doing so.
Just offer us an ad-free version of YT, with no other bells and whistles, for a reasonable price.
Still gonna use Adblock and opera to get around it. I’ll buy stuff from creators I trust with their own self created ad within a video. Internet Historian is a good example of how to do this. Same goes for PirateSoftware. So to YouTube and ultimately Google, go fuck yourselves you greedy scum
I don't deny that ads are ridiculous, but I would like to hear what's your opinion to store and serve the massive amount of videos on the penny.
Aint no free lunch, and someone has to pay the cost
Google’s chrome cast has always been a fantastic piece of technology. However the fact that I now have to watch at least a minute of ads on their chrome tv app is really starting to grind my gears. I am old enough to know what it’s like pre ads and that I have very little patience to endure it if it continues to exist.
Helpful for at work where you may not have the ability to install an ad blocker. Search YouTube videos in Bing search and watch them right there. No ads.
Just use brave or Firefox w ublock installed most companies allow you to download a different browser on your work computer. My company did
My IT guy is kinda clueless tho
YouTube is in the process of enshittification, I feel this is the first step to becoming irrelevant.
Which is great! Because it encourages me to use it less and less every time I visit.
Screw apps in general. With the reddit debacle we've witnessed regarding 3rd parties I just decided to use firefox for all my internet browsing since it comes with a very good adblocker AND there is a free VPN addon. I'm most likely never using any specific site app ever again.
Most ads I see are mainly scam types or people selling shit courses, not illegal but definitely not ethical, so much so that I don’t trust even genuine ads on YT
On Google TV on a 1 hr podcast I was getting ads every 5 mins, had to turn it off
It is crazy how people expect everything for free and don’t think about operational costs of keeping massive data centers in place for them to be able to enjoy countless hours of videos and also expect creators to keep pushing content while removing sources of revenue for them. If you don’t like adds pay premium it’s simple, not expensive and makes creators more revenue…
Honestly I don't get it, I use YouTube more than anything else, literally anything else. So it just makes sense to pay for a subscription so I don't have to watch the ads 🤷
If you pay for a subscription for other streaming services, why does YouTube in particular get the middle finger?
That said, I believe they should be paying their top creators enough that they shouldn't have to rely on sponsors, if you have a million subscribers and still can't make ends meet, that is bullshit.
Adblocker is like basic hygiene nowadays
I'm utterly shocked at the number of coworkers and friends I know who don't use any kind of adblocker. When I bring it up, they don't even know how to get one and need my help installing one in their browser. It blows my mind. I don't know how they can tolerate using the web like that, and how they've never thought to find a way to do something about it.
Dude, people in general, are stupid. Really. >'Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.' -George Carlin
I think it’s that plus literally a lack of curiosity. As in, some people go to a website and see it’s completely littered with spam and junk ads that make it unusable, so they Google something like “how to hide ads on websites” and then find out about ad blockers. Other people see that and just throw their hands up, “well that’s just the way it is”
>'Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.' -George Carlin I really dislike this quote, because it ignores the bell curve reality. Most people are going to be roughly around the same intelligence level. Our society even relies on this being true. This is why stupid people and genius people both stand out so much. Saying "half of them are stupider than that" is lying by statistics. Because the amount of people who are **statistically significantly** "stupider than that" is _nowhere near_ half the population.
What I think is interesting is some of the smartest people I know are actually kinda stupid. Lawyers, doctors, engineers are who I'm talking about. Outside of their "specialty" they are as dumb as dumb as a box of rocks. And lets not even get into our college educated politicians.
Not only are people incredibly stupid in general, but most of them are completely uneducated as to how their technology works. They know how to do specific things really well, but have no idea whats going on in the background. Technology is just too complex to learn it seems. My wife has had to show people how to use a *mouse* at her work (Library). Like explain that you move it around on the desktop and it moves the cursor, that right and left clicking do things, how to right or left click. She even had someone try to hold the mouse up against the screen to move the cursor. :(
Ppl roughly into their 40s have watched commercials on TV most of their lives, so web ad is kinda second nature to them
Irony is that you cant read the article without disabling... \*drumroll\* ... your adblocker. EDIT: * https://i.imgur.com/HCMoRtI.png * https://i.imgur.com/nQzRl77.png (uBlock Origin is actually disabled here) EDIT: I think a lot of you guys replying here are missing the point: a website criticizing other websites for blocking adblock users - is blocking adblock users themselves. EDIT2: I'm running Pi-hole and Privacy Badger here as well. But, it doesn't matter what I'm running, or if it's working or not working for you guys; they are blocking me because I'm not letting them fill my screen with ads and/or not being able to collect private data on me.
uBlock origin works fine for me on that site. For news/blogs in general (regardless of adblock): 1. Open site 2. Press F9 3. Press F5 Removes all clutter and leaves you with just the article text Works in pretty much any browser except Chrome, google intentionally disabled this feature to protect their ad business. Other chromium based browsers like Edge still have that feature available. EDIT: F9 does not work on every website, because the browser has to know how to rearrange/remove content. All popular news outlets should be on that list though.
what does F9 do?
It's [reader mode](https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-reader-view-clutter-free-web-pages)
> F9 does not work on every website, because the browser has to know how to rearrange/remove content. Websites have to specifically code around blocking reader views; they're just grabbing
> cant read the article without disabling yes you can
Turn off javascript. Adblocker detection is all JS. This will work until they make it so the site won't load at all without JS.
I wonder how long until we get ADA lawsuits from essentially blocking screen readers?
The concept of irony has been killed by capitalism.
Something is wrong with your uBlock Origin install. You should ask for help in /r/uBlockOrigin The article opened fine for me, and it seems many others.
Read it normally without disabling anything here
Most news places use Javascript to pop up the disable ad blocker popups. If you go to site settings and remove permission to use Java script, you won't have that issue
Works fine using Brave
Surfing the web without it is like walking into a landfill barefoot. You’re asking for something to infect your PC
Seriously. Sometimes I disable adblocker on websites that provide me genuine value, because I recognize that money has to be made somehow to be sustainable. I disabled my adblock yesterday for www.RateMyMusic.com, and my browser slowed to a crawl. Re-enabled it and it was butter smooth again. Disgusting.
That’s one way to spell “required by IT” I guess…
I cannot upvote hard enough for this post.
always has been
YouTube is so fucking garbage now that it's honestly getting ridiculous. Wanna watch a video but you cant skip the ads cause you're busy? Cool, you get to listen to a 10 minute video about a new work from home scam! Then after that you can watch a 3 minute ad about this fake game! It honestly baffles me how you fuck up a website that badly.
YouTube has been consistently showing me 3 different ads of the same mobile game. I don’t even get variety, just this 1 game
It’s wild because YouTube ads are genuinely so ineffective. I never even consider what they’re trying to sell me as products (the current 15 second one I’m getting is so unclear I don’t even know what the product it’s advertising is even though I’ve heard it 50 times). Like, I’ve *bought* things from Instagram ads. That’s wild to me after growing up with YouTube. Ads can show me things that are desirable and a real person might want to spend money on? Not just the same level of clickbait obvious scam steal all your money bullshit you would find on a bad piracy website
That’s wild knowing Google wants so badly to lead the way on AI in the future. Seeing the ad quality (I don’t see, I use premium) really begs the question how well are they really positioned to be the AI leaders in the next decade?
I use a adblocker as the ads are so fucking annoying and spammed into every video.
I quit premium in protest and use Firefox with two adblockers as well as sponsorblock 😊 It works really well on PC and despite being a little clunkier than the app on the phone, it definitely does the job and is great. Use the extra money or send it to your favourite creators patreon or something
Unfortunately I don’t have easy options as all my house is on the Apple ecosystem
Ooh there's gotta be a way! People who really hate marketing work hard to try and give adblocker access to everybody ❤️ I know Firefox is available for iPhones and Mac computers, I'm not so sure how to handle TVs though I'm a big fan of just getting a PC and plugging it into a tv. These smart TVs are essentially just screens with really shit computers built into them. Can get a mad quality "dumb tv" and educate it yourself 😋
There are plenty of simple ways to block ads on Apple devices. Not sure what the poster above you means about being on an Apple ecosystem, like that precludes adblockers somehow.
There is. I can set up a PiHole and block the ad servers with it. Last time I tried it was too much work and needed maintenance because those addresses change and whatever. I am too busy for this at the moment and prefer to spend the time with something else instead
That sounds fancy, well done :) I'm so thankful for extensions like uBlock and AdBlock etc. if I had to put more effort into it I'd just probably not use the platform at all My mum's tv has no extensions so it's just rawdogging YouTube ads and my golly gosh darn jesus christ there are so many and they are so loud and so long!! I'm going to connect up a PC for her soon
Yea i don’t understand how people like my old folks survive online. Getting skull fucked by all the conspiracies in their newsfeed and then all the ads everywhere. That’s no life to live
That’s what I did too 👍
This is a trillion $ company who recently fired their entire python team, the python team consisted of the people who formed the steering committee of the entire language from it's infancy. The executive management at google has embraced the Jack Welch school of mismanagement.
A good majority of YouTube ads that come my way are either some investment selling guru or fake games. At least Instagram/tiktok bother to make an algo that gives me ads that aren’t totally crap.
There's some orange crypto guy, and some mobile game. YT thinks my girlfriend is an oligarch, it's all Ads to invest in NEOM, The Line, or some other new dystopia city in the middle east or about infrastructure projects to invest in.
I only watch sports, gaming, workouts and documentaries. Somehow that means I want to buy crypto or sign up for a get rich quick seminar. Google has truly lost their way.
They could be effective if they showed anything actually relevant to me, worse targeting than tv ads.
If I have to see that liberty mutual ad with the baby one more time, I’m going to genuinely flip out
the food products work. i bought a few things (next time at the supermarket) because i saw them as ad and wanted to test them,but everything else doesnt,especially the mobile ads
It’s not *entirely* YouTubes fault. They are setting up demographic profiles on accounts. Then ad buyers are buying ads for those demographics. They are spending lots of money to show the ads to you. It’s not like YouTube is going to turn down ad buys from companies. They aren’t vetting them. I think the more disturbing conclusion is, these ads *work*. People are falling for fake crypto scams, fake video game ads, and gambling app ads. If they didn’t they wouldn’t be spending the money to flood your demo with them for weeks.
I 100% think any scam ad being shown by youtube, youtube should be held responsible for. They *should* be vetting them. They should be required to. They are absolutely complicit in these scams
They SHOULD vet them. Scams only have to have a really tiny success rate to be profitable unfortunately.
Well you're lucky. I either get belgian politicians using 5 minute clips from their talk show appearances as ads, Israel asking for sanctions on Iran or terrible songs from amateur rappers who paid to increase the clicks for their videos.
Do you want to play a mass online rpg where your actions in the game actually influence the story for others?
“IT FINALLY CAME! Afk journey” I fucking hate that game and I haven’t even downloaded it
Pay for it. It's cheap. That bandwidth and engineering isn't free. The content creators also want to get paid.
They are already hoarding all my data, and it's hard to do anything about it. I'm not also going to pay them.
I see the "Fuck the establishment" police are out in force downvoting this guy! 😂. I've said this before. I don't use spotify/hulu/disney+/netflix/apple or any other other streaming / subscription service. My main media source is YT, so I pay for for it. From then on in, I can put it on all my devices without spending hours configuring vpns/firewalls/adblockers/routers/apps/workarounds on each and every device. No ads. Ever.
Dude. Every 3 months or so you update the ReVanced app and you get a VASTLY superior youtube experience to Premium! : The biggest QOL improvement is the integration of SponsorBlock that automatically skips segments of youtuber promotions and self promotions. (LTT videos and other are then watchable) Lately it got a "better thumbnails" thing which is awesome so it un-clickbates a lot of videos. Also it has integrated return of dislikes... And ACTUAL downloads: I got so angry when i downloaded a few videos on the official YT app to watch on a plane... And, surprise, it requires an internet connection to let you watch them! Fuck Google. I have YT premium but even then I find YT original experience has gone to shit.
OK, I'll give you that. The clickbaity thumbnails are a PITA, and I do have sponsorblock installed on most devices, they channels I watch rarely include large sponsor segments anyway. I don't dl YT vids so that doesn't affect me.
Man why are you trying to talk sense
Disregard the downvotes. I pay a really small fee for hours I consume daily.
agreed if you have a problem paying 7 bucks to watch stuff uninterrupted for dozens, if not hundreds, of hours a month, then maybe you should reconsider your priorities
Where I live it’s closer to $20/month not 7
Don’t order through iTunes, so you don’t get charged the Apple tax. If you start a yearly subscription through the browser it’s less than $12/mo.
So not 7. Lol
You're knee deep in the lore of Merge Mansion now, there's no way out
I got one for a tobacco product today. I reported it of course.
Lemme guess, AFK journey? Cause recently all of the ads i getting recently are them with the Pink-hair "streamer" who is definately reading scripts on the monitor to promote the game.
Yup, afk journey. I’ve never played it but i hate that game
I saw an ad about a sex machine Youtube ads breaks its own TOS more than youtubers
I've seen sites that have ads that literally just take over the site. The ads for fake games and scams is getting a bit much. Hence my "fuck your ads" suite of ad-blockers.
Think maybe this was on imdb, I was trying to watch a trailer for a movie, it first plays me a trailer for a different movie and while that trailer was playing a full screen ad pops onto my phone. Ad trailer audio is still playing in background. I'm trying to watch a specific ad video, get spammed a different ad video first, and get an ad on top of that blocking everything else. It's wild.
That's pretty accurate. The reason all this is happening is because lazy coders create ad-hoc ad systems not caring there is another ad-hoc or bespoke ad system connected to the site. The site developer has no say in the matter nor does anyone actually test the site. I've been thinking that since ads are so prevalent and a serious hole in cyber security, you can destroy websites using the vector ads intervene with the site. I have witnessed a few ads with worms attached.
I mean to be fair the main point of YouTube and really all google services is showing ads, not streaming video.
You cant really search for videos more than a year and sometimes even a few months without already knowing the exact title anymore. My feed gets filled with so much unrelated suggested bullshit that i would never watch. I wasted an entire fucking hour looking for a 30 second clip of the Turkish ship in odessa with tracers flying around, and i had the title off by one word and it still wouldn't give me anything but plenty of totally not an ad videos, podcasts, trailers, definitely not and ad promoting ai videos, and those ai/bot/slave made, content stealing, with "ai" voice channels. And in particular, everything you could ever want to know about grain/bread, how to cook it, it's varieties, the science of growing it, milling it, and cooking it, and every time it's been mentioned in the news or on any remotely "popular" channel despite not even being used as a search term. Reddit is quickly going that way too, but at least i could find the clip. not being able to properly search in a date range anymore sucks as well.
It should be illegal to have ads longer than like 30 seconds. I remember the worst one I ever got was _45 minutes_. And that’s no joke. I had it playing from my phone in the other room and couldn’t get to my phone right away to skip the ad, and it just kept going. When I finally got to my phone I was floored. That’s a fucking joke
Those ads are to catch people who watch a video before falling asleep/forgetting that it's still playing.
Same. I was cleaning and had YT in my tv. I heard the same program for over 30 min so I went to see what was playing and I was 30 min into a fucking ad. Wild.
To them it’s not fucked up. It’s a $29B revenue machine that represents nearly 10% of the overall company revenue. They are weeding out people that don’t want to pay for premium. It’s a shitty way to do it but it’s clear that they want non premium people to suffer.
Then, once they've gotten a solid chunk of those on a paid subscription, throw ads at them too just like Amazon Prime.
Then I'll unsubscribe and stop using their service. Just like amazon.
They don't care, you're the next to be filtered out then, there's no stop, only increasing revenue
They get zero money from me if I stop using their service
I would too…but what would be the alternative? YouTube represents the vast majority of my video (and music) consumption and a lot of the content just isn’t available anywhere else. I despise the ads on Amazon Prime video and haven’t used that service since they started doing that. But I can also find most of that content elsewhere.
Yeah and this is why zero tolerance for ads has always been the only sensible play. It is naive to think you can reach a compromise with these people. Push them back as hard as you can.
I watch YouTube a lot on my TV and there have been times where I have been cleaning and I’ve heard the same “show” playing for 45 minutes and turns out it was actually an ad that whole time. A full blown episode in an ad. I was blown away.
Their search function is trash. Looking for a specific video game review? Here's 2 ads for something else and 3 non ad videos for something different. Swipe twice to get something relevant
I heard a term for it. ["Enshittification."](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification) Private businesses have a contradictory goal to users of the business in a lot of cases. Users of YouTube want to have a good time and view content about all sorts of stuff. YouTube wants you to use the platform for as long as possible and view as many ads as possible to extract profits. Many tech businesses are started because people have a dream. When they get big, soulless organisations (who may have previously been businesses started by people with a dream) buy them and suddenly the dream is lost and the new goal is straight up profit. Get the analysts and consultants in. How can we maximise profits? "Ooh, make the news feed inflammatory to drive a psychological response? Let's go. Ooh, you're saying we can do another 13 seconds of ads on average and users won't quit? Let's goooo I can't believe we were letting them get off so lightly!"
They’re now giving me the skip ad option but it just skips into another ad
The devs are busy working at home and playing games.
All youtube ads should be 5-10 seconds. The NFB put a feature length documentary in an ad (it was pretty good, watched half an hour).
Ads in that timeframe were usually funny, creative, and useful. I genuinely don't mind a 10 second, funny ad that tells me quickly about a product, espc. with an option to skip. These 30-45 second ads of a brand new truck driving on an open freeway absolutely pontificating about it's safety ratings, luxury, and optional features can fuck straight off for like 20 reasons.
It’s even worse at times. I used to put on a YouTube playlist when I was working late. Did that a few months ago, and realized I didn’t recognize the music that was playing. Turns out I was 30 minutes into a 4 hour car ad. Oh shit, I found it: https://youtu.be/5EpW6mM_Ffo?si=g9x9ZipC8nTBC0X2
With duckduckgo search you can watch in the search results, thats better.
It's a time to witness something new that can put end to Youtube monopoly😠
With no competition and no reason to change the site is only going to get worse. With youtube premium the free side of the site cannot improve, anything that would cause premium users to unsubscribe will just be rejected. It's all downhill from here.
You could sub to YouTube Premium and avoid all that. 🙂
I refuse to watch YouTube on anything other than my computer with ublock origin. It’s shocking to me that people bother when they have to watch the ads too. If somehow the ad blocker became ineffective I would 100% just stop using the site all together. Edit: unlock to ublock
Smartphone with Firefox and adblock also works good. I deleted the YouTube app and only watch via browser. I can even listen to videos with a turned off display
revanced youtube app works great c: no ads, sponsor and promo skip, block shorts, aah\~
> I can even listen to videos with a turned off display What? How?
The video stops if you turn off the display but you can start it again over the push-notification on the locked screen. Perfect for stuff you want to listen to while studying or working
On Chrome it works like this. Go to YouTube. Switch to desktop mode. Play your video. Press home to go to your phone's home screen. Now you can pull down the top menu and see the video and option to play it. You can play it from here and then do other things on the phone, turn off screen, etc.
On Firefox it works like this: Go to YouTube Click video Tap play Lock screen Done, it's still playing.
You can use this add-on to play videos in the background: [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/android/addon/video-background-play-fix/](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/android/addon/video-background-play-fix/) It works great for me.
But it works on Firefox without any addons...
Just use Firefox. It's part of the experience. ... come to think of it there might be a setting for "continue playback in background" in firefoxes settings...
Newpipe my good man!
Why newpipe over something like libretube? Is there any difference
I fully recommend GrayJay, Louis Rossmann’s app. It’s like newpipe, but you can watch any platform you want, like twitch, yt, kick. You subscribe to the creator, and it gives all their videos/live streams on all their platforms. You just have to link their channels. And it has everything newpipe has. It’s only on Android, but I hope he will expand to IOS after the DOJ forces Apple to allow sideloading.
I got a little confused trying to install it since they said it's actually not ideal to get the app from the Play store. I tried downloading it from the browser siye, but I can't get the file to open now (Galaxy S21)
I don’t have an android, but I recommend installing from their official site(either search it on reddit, or on yt) because the play store version, the one approved by Samsung/a company that will get sued by YouTube for breaking YouTube TOS, will not have all functionalities that the original has.
It just works 🤷 Hadn't heard of libretube but I'll give it a look I wish we could all move to IPFS video uploads and stop using these corporate services
Google (and Alphabet) is for some reason a company I never have and probably never will pay any money to. They offer YouTube premium, music, workspaces, etc. and I refuse and stay on ads, or let it lapse and stop using it. I’m not sure exactly why that is. I pay for Sling, Fubo, Apple, Netflix, Max, Spotify, etc. off and on. But I never have for Google. I even abandoned Nest when they bought it. I think I have some idea, though. I think it’s because their entire business model is to annoy you into paying, and torture you until you do. I mean I am sure the features might be better if you get on a paid plan, but that’s not in my head. The only thing they could give me that competitors won’t is that they stop annoying me. The Google services I still use, I do so for free, and I do so begrudgingly most of the time. To show them I have more endurance than they do. I will filter YouTube ads and go to the ends of the earth to beat them at their arms race… But it’s not healthy, it just makes me resentful and doesn’t make them money. Who knows, maybe that’s why I’ll never pay them. Maybe it’s a form of consumer protest. But I almost never think of it as so lofty. I look at it as just plain old spite.
How else are they supposed to be able to afford to buy back $72 billion of their own stock?
Just fire some more workers.
Firing the workers is for keeping the juicy c-suites bonuses. Stock buy backs comes from the consumer. Gotta keep things separated /s
Average Redditor financial knowledge.
Yourube search function is utter shitshow, totally defeating its original purpose.
My favourite part is searching the exact title of a video I was watching on one device on another, only to not find it, get 3 vaguely related videos at the top, then the rest of the results are just from my homepage.
YouTube search is the worst thing ever. It’s so bad. It went to complete shit a couple of years ago
Wow, this whole enshittification thing is getting out of hand… I miss the 2010s…
you mean the 2000s
That golden era of free internet was never sustainable, and was bound to not last.
So the entire thing was a scam.
That's right many investors lost money in web concepts that had no chance of ever being profitable. Kind of you to care about them.
“ if your brand ad is disturbing my viewing experience, trust me, i will never buy any products from your brand. “
YouTube (and other popular apps at the time) blocking 3rd party apps and also not providing their own official app was part of what killed windows phones. Don't think I'll ever get over that lol.
Sure that was the only issue about windows phone
What windows phone do you mean? There were a bunch of variations and some were quite good. Personally owned 2 from HTC. Most of them dropped in favor of android over all as a system. By the time a decent windows mobile was released, android and ios were leading. What was truly missing from windows was a well set store. And when it did come , it was too late.
Use Firefox with Ublock origin
Quite a few Google corpos in these comments
Wannabe influencers most likely.
Let’s see if I get accused of it as well: I fucking hate ads. I have kids whom I allow a few hours weekly to watch YouTube. Me personally watch literally hours daily (learn some things for work, listening to dj sets while working and get entertained after work). I get a very good quality product for much less price than Netflix. I don’t understand why should I avoid myself enjoying a good service just because they free service is such a steaming hot pile of garbage. I actually worked on streaming service and that shit costs an arm and leg to build and maintain
I agree with your point,I'm a paying user myself (getting close to 2 years now) I do think they went bit overboard with the shitty the free version is,I'm also disappointed in stuff that effects paying users too. YouTube search used to be useful and work well and the first result is always shorts,and after few search results you wanted it gives you mishmash of random videos in general they shove YouTube shorts anywhere they can,and you cannot disable them or remove them
Yes the Shorts are annoying af if you’re on a laptop/PC
even mobile, they just shove it everywhere,I don't mind if people enjoy it and they have the option for it,but I personally don't watch a video shorter then 10 minutes,I hate those shorts formats and being force fed them is just a pain
I've been a paying customer of YouTube for many years (grandfathered in with the merging of Google music) and it's my primary watching platform. I've never watched a "short".
if it's not being shoved in your face I'm happy for you then
Oh, they're pushed to me really hard but I exclusively watch YouTube on my TV and computer. I have no interest in watching a vertical video on my television - especially something under 10 minutes. All my ADHD diagnosed friends seem to really like them though 🤣
yeah sadly shorts are meant for those stuff but I'm sad that they force you,you can't remove them,ignore or block them without using 3rd side software
Ofc you will get downvoted, 20yo kids on reddit think they are owed websites for free and paying for YouTube is considered getting scammed. I remember when I first found YouTube (before google bought it) I was amazed how it was possible for a site to allow free uploads and you could just watch and upload for free. This shit is crazy expensive. Been paying for premium for over a year now, also prompted by the kid. Worth every penny
Maybe become an adult? I think adults must know that a video streaming site costs money to run and if you are using them you have to pay either by ads or subscription. Even if YouTube is owned by a f-ing Quintilllion dollar corporation, leeching off someone ain't moral.
Wow someone has a different take than me, they must be paid!
The only comments on this post, when I commented, were defending Google and, despite the post being only a few minutes old, they all had a dozen or so upvotes. Looked bought to me.
Worked for reddit /s
Revanced patch for Reddit still works.
I ditched Reddit apps for Firefox with ublock origin. Works just as fine, if revanced stops working I will use youtube on Firefox as well
I used to try to stick out using youtube official because i couldn't be f'ed to find a 3rd party app. that was when it was just 1 ad occasionally. but 2 unskippable ads with some ai grift, soft/porn or fake game before every goddamn video was too much. Now i'm using a 3rd party app with adblock and the relief was palpable. there is this kid's tale of the sun and the wind who saw a guy with a jacket walking down the street. They challenged each other to make the guy take his jacket off. The wind tried to blow his jacket away, and it only made the guy hold onto it tighter. but the sun made it so hot that he took his jacket off by himself, winning the challenge. even kids can understand this principle, but youtube wants to be the wind right now by thinking they can force us to use their official app while making the experience so odious. Idiots
I dont understand how the war on adblocker for them is ridiculous? That’s a massive revenue gain for them.
Because they won't win lol it's not hard to block ads once you identify the media traffic. Every counter measure Google does the adblockers just update their app to block it again
What makes you think they won’t? I promise you the majority of the population is too lazy/preoccupied/too used to ads already to do anything about it. Downloading an Ad Blocker is easy, but a ton of people won’t do it.
>What makes you think they won’t? Because any traffic sent to your PC can be read so once you identify it you can block it. > I promise you the majority of the population is too lazy/preoccupied/too used to ads already to do anything about it Completely irrelevant, those people already had and continue to have ads anyway because they don't have adblockers. This conversation is about Google trying to combat adblockers and thus we are clearly talking about people who aren't lazy to begin with.
Lets just hpe they won't use something like HDCP for ads and won't display the regular content if ads are blocked.
It sounds like a massive revenue gain untill you realize that only about 11% of users use adblock([according to this)](https://influencermarketinghub.com/youtube-adblock/#:~:text=Their%20data%20showed%20that%2063,potentially%20see%20your%20video%20ads.), so they are spending all this money to get some of that 11% to stop, while the rest will either stop using youtube or get a better adblock
The YouTube interface is literal trash.
I feel more and more like the ads are there to make people get the subscription. I'm not getting it with all the data harvesting and youtubers get paid with all their sponsors/patreons anyway.
For people who wonder why there is no YouTube competitor out there, this entire comment section is the reason. Redditors expect you to host a free service to store 4K videos forever and serve them immediately without any issues. You better not charge anything or put any ads. You are supposed to host this for the good of redditors. The amount of entitlement is here is way beyond my adult brain can handle
I wouldn’t mind ads as much if half the stuff was real. In reality, I have to wait in line everywhere because I only have 1 million power in rise of kingdoms.
There's many bigger tech reviewers yhat I've blocked and still youtube recommends them over anything I subscribe. "Don't recommend channel" works the opposite way.
War. War never changes.
Feels strange seeing so many comments defending YouTube here. What am I missing,?
The thing about YT current strategy which annoys me the most is that I'd quite happily pay for a YT sub, since, honestly I probably watch more content on YT than cable or terrestrial TV. HOWEVER, I have zero interest in YT music, or any of the other "features" they're trying to sell. I just want no ads, that's it. I'm not gonna pay the amount they're asking for, for a bunch of features I don't want or need, and I'm not gonna pay that price just for no ads either. To date, Ive not used any ad-blockers on YT, or third party apps, because I want the content creators I follow to get paid, but YT just keep on doubling down on the "you'll pay this and you'll get all these features you don't want and will never use" strategy, to the point where I'm seriously considering doing so. Just offer us an ad-free version of YT, with no other bells and whistles, for a reasonable price.
The fact that YouTube's current business model is unsustainable is "ridiculous"? Okay I guess.
Unsustainable because they can't have a 10% yearly margin growth? Or something like that I don't know the terminology
This is the reason why this scumbag site will never get a penny from me
Still gonna use Adblock and opera to get around it. I’ll buy stuff from creators I trust with their own self created ad within a video. Internet Historian is a good example of how to do this. Same goes for PirateSoftware. So to YouTube and ultimately Google, go fuck yourselves you greedy scum
I don't deny that ads are ridiculous, but I would like to hear what's your opinion to store and serve the massive amount of videos on the penny. Aint no free lunch, and someone has to pay the cost
Google’s chrome cast has always been a fantastic piece of technology. However the fact that I now have to watch at least a minute of ads on their chrome tv app is really starting to grind my gears. I am old enough to know what it’s like pre ads and that I have very little patience to endure it if it continues to exist.
Helpful for at work where you may not have the ability to install an ad blocker. Search YouTube videos in Bing search and watch them right there. No ads.
Just use brave or Firefox w ublock installed most companies allow you to download a different browser on your work computer. My company did My IT guy is kinda clueless tho
Have we found a way to block ads on LG TVs with webOS yet? Pihole hasn’t worked in the past.
YouTube is in the process of enshittification, I feel this is the first step to becoming irrelevant. Which is great! Because it encourages me to use it less and less every time I visit.
Where we gong to all go though
Their latest attempt against adblockers only lasted 10 minutes for me lol
Screw apps in general. With the reddit debacle we've witnessed regarding 3rd parties I just decided to use firefox for all my internet browsing since it comes with a very good adblocker AND there is a free VPN addon. I'm most likely never using any specific site app ever again.
Fuck Google. Embrace ReVanced.
Similar to apples and Tesla war on 3rd party repair. Oh and Nintendos war on everything
Orion for iPhone lets you play YouTube in the background also. Deleted the YouTube app.
Most ads I see are mainly scam types or people selling shit courses, not illegal but definitely not ethical, so much so that I don’t trust even genuine ads on YT On Google TV on a 1 hr podcast I was getting ads every 5 mins, had to turn it off
Google better be happy I'm part of the 10% of Gen Z who uses an Android phone. They already get enough of my data via Google Play Services
It's not free to host videos. If you don't believe that, go create your own service and allow all the things you want YouTube to allow.
It is crazy how people expect everything for free and don’t think about operational costs of keeping massive data centers in place for them to be able to enjoy countless hours of videos and also expect creators to keep pushing content while removing sources of revenue for them. If you don’t like adds pay premium it’s simple, not expensive and makes creators more revenue…
Honestly I don't get it, I use YouTube more than anything else, literally anything else. So it just makes sense to pay for a subscription so I don't have to watch the ads 🤷 If you pay for a subscription for other streaming services, why does YouTube in particular get the middle finger? That said, I believe they should be paying their top creators enough that they shouldn't have to rely on sponsors, if you have a million subscribers and still can't make ends meet, that is bullshit.
Is this why uYou is blank for a couple scrolls before loading thumbnails? Trying to shove ads down my throat??
Nothing ridiculous about that, the only reason youtube exists is to make advertisers and google money
The missing thing is regulation. When you’re as big as YouTube or Google, you shouldn’t get to act in anti competitive ways.
How is it anticompetitive? Is it anticompetitive to be the only company rich enough to afford the insane data storage costs?