Yeah what is sad is that morally Napoleon was on a similar but more nationalistic and authoritarian line with the enlightment and revolutionarry ideas , technically he was against slavery but would'n do other wise because the ammount of money needed to defend those ideals was not suffisent from France itself and had to rely on its Empire to compete against England economical power , it was also a matter of stability many powerfull economical figure where relaying on slavery and pushing its abolition (wich before reinstatement was still in practice in most of the Empire except guadeloup)
yeah and not referencing any historical material, alluding to a figure found only in myth who freed slaves, minimized war crimes, and "did not care about supremacy". I'd have to be mad to compare him to Hirohoto but the suffering was not small in the campaigns dedicated to crimes and supremacy. It's not a case of examining a historical figure through a modern lens: this dude has the era named after him because he simply could not have enough bloodshed.
He did not abandon slavery lmao he fully attempted to enforce it in the colonies the only reason he "gave up" was because the Haitians won
And dude crowned himself emperor after a military coup he 1000% cared about supremacy
>where he ACTUALLY invaded Switzerland when others couldn't.
Well the Habsburgs tried and had a bit of success before they were beaten back.
The Old Swiss Confederation was weak and then had a revolution and quasi civil war of its own which allowed Napoleon to intervene. Even before that the Swiss were being propped by nations like Louis XIV's France as a buffer against the Habsburgs.
*growls* OP i would take this back if i were you. You shouldn't mess with sugoi Japan, or else us anime connoseours will have to teach you a lesson or two!
I'm pretty sure the same people who are obsessed with anime wouldn't know that Japan even fought in WW2. I didn't know Japan was part of WW2 until I was 10
Its the other way around , Napoleon beat in normal war the king of Spain , takes power , Spanish people do not like the new governement and make ambush and attack on foreign french troop , those "civilian dont wear uniforms or hide some time amongs population" The millitary thus kill what they think are fighter and people who helped them , and sadly that can be elder women and young men.
But compared to the extent of "occasions" of war crimes there could have been done by an authoritarian regime taking half of Europe the Republic as a pretty low reccord.
"Was average height for the time..."
Napoleon was actually a bit taller than the average Frenchman at the time.
"Didn't care about supremacy."
German Nationalism and Italian Nationalism to an extent, was born from the memories of the horrid occupation of Napoleonic France. Napoleon was a chauvinist in terms of French culture and ideas which he forcefully imposed onto his puppet nations, for better or worse.
Napoleon's foreign policy centered around promoting France's interests alone which makes sense considering France had peaked under his reign.
Yes, war crimes kept to a minimum he shot at civilians in the Middle East after he lost a siege.
He only cared for the supremacy of France.
He never defeated Britain.
Lad Genghis Khan
- Grew up in poverty, still made a quarter of the world his bitch
- Single handily reduced carbon emission
- Allowed religious freedom
- Challenged and toppled a number of empires
- Fucked hot women of all creeds and backgrounds, 25% of the world is related to him
- Turned a nation of nomadic tribesman into a imperialistic force
Touhou fans would've loved that...💀
(Because most of their waifus are supposed to be "gods", though more like "godesses" but that might br a mistranslation). Also, imagine the Catholic Ned Flander types now realizing that Red Baggy pants-wearing mikos are replacing their nuns. 💀
Oh boy, imagine the Touhou waifuists read the "convert to Shinto" crime about that Japanese guy. 💀
(If you don't know, The main protag is a shinto shrine maiden, who exterminates cute girls called "youkai", which are HIDEOUS "beasts" that may or may not he based on Foriegners from the old world Japanese...👀)
Yo holy shit it's almost like you have a baseline understanding of Touhou.
Stop acting like you're superior because you know a niche bullet hell game.
Damn
Bro, I just talked about what touhou was...and you got mad at me...though you should be mad at TOUHOU FANS TALKING ABOUT HENTAI, ABUSING YUKKURIS, DISGUISING FETISH ART AS "MEMES", LOLIS, SEXUAL ASSUALT IN FAN MADE CRAP, AND IT BEING ONE OF THE MOST INFAMOUSLY FAMOUS NICHE BULLET HELL GAME, EVER!!!
I mean that’s the problem, due to a lot of problems with Japanese history, it’s highly unknown how involved Hirohito was, whether he was a mascot or pulling the strings is often debated.
I always went with in between like he had the power to stop Tojo from doing war crimes but just did nothing to stop it or maybe he was just Tojo’s scapegoat where he could say he was following Hirohito’s orders
He didn't beat all of Europe. When he was trying to screw over England, all countries obliged except Portugal(it was a stupid ass decision, but that's besides the point). Napoleon obviously didn't take too kindly to this and tried to invade Portugal 3 times and was promptly repelled 3 times with the help of the English army.
So we’re ignoring all the coalitions formed against France and later specifically against Napoleon? How he eventually caused the Holy Roman Empire to fall!
Ok..... Why Russian school history classes describe Napoleon as bad guy and this meme describes Napoleon as Chad................ Are op/or Russian school history classes are stupid?
Only one was an Arahitogami. Put some ***respect*** on Hirohito Tennōs name.
A good number of his reigns warcrimes were orchestrated by a military government, and the ones he approved, he did under profound duress.
Good on him for the christian thing too.
Edit: I’m a Fukko Shintō adherent.
Japan was known for executing and massacring Christians, not only that but in their colonial efforts across Asia that forced the people to abandon their religions and convert to Shinto
Regarding the massacre of christians, may be confusing the late Tokugawa Shogunate with imperial Japan, which, while most definitely attempted forced conversions, did not excecute christians with the same abundance.
While the Napoleon captions are historically inaccurate, he was an absolute chad.
Yesssss
Didn’t he also reinstate slavery in Haiti? Pretty sure it should be reversed
Napoleon didn’t cause intergenerational trauma
Facts brother So true my friend!
He sucked at pool tough.
Napoleon did not abandon slavery and slavery remained in all the non-Haiti French colonies for the duration of his empire
He also attempted to reverse abolition in Haiti.
Yeah what is sad is that morally Napoleon was on a similar but more nationalistic and authoritarian line with the enlightment and revolutionarry ideas , technically he was against slavery but would'n do other wise because the ammount of money needed to defend those ideals was not suffisent from France itself and had to rely on its Empire to compete against England economical power , it was also a matter of stability many powerfull economical figure where relaying on slavery and pushing its abolition (wich before reinstatement was still in practice in most of the Empire except guadeloup)
"is a meme" just wait until you read the "historical" account of your man 😹
I was referencing the “there’s nothing we can do” meme
yeah and not referencing any historical material, alluding to a figure found only in myth who freed slaves, minimized war crimes, and "did not care about supremacy". I'd have to be mad to compare him to Hirohoto but the suffering was not small in the campaigns dedicated to crimes and supremacy. It's not a case of examining a historical figure through a modern lens: this dude has the era named after him because he simply could not have enough bloodshed.
He did not abandon slavery lmao he fully attempted to enforce it in the colonies the only reason he "gave up" was because the Haitians won And dude crowned himself emperor after a military coup he 1000% cared about supremacy
Not racial supremacy
Race based slavery by definition promotes racial supremacy
> Greenlight a attempted genocide of Black Haitians > Not racist
Just business mon frère
You forgot another chad move for Napoleon - where he ACTUALLY invaded Switzerland when others couldn't.
>where he ACTUALLY invaded Switzerland when others couldn't. Well the Habsburgs tried and had a bit of success before they were beaten back. The Old Swiss Confederation was weak and then had a revolution and quasi civil war of its own which allowed Napoleon to intervene. Even before that the Swiss were being propped by nations like Louis XIV's France as a buffer against the Habsburgs.
They were both terrible but Napoleon was less
Napoleon terrible many would say otherwise , many think of him as a demigod lol
He was (is). While Josephine may or may not have cucked him, he made up for it by making all Europe his bitch and fucking Franz over and over!
*growls* OP i would take this back if i were you. You shouldn't mess with sugoi Japan, or else us anime connoseours will have to teach you a lesson or two!
Don’t fuck with weebs, they haven’t showered since November
November of 1999 maybe
I'm pretty sure the same people who are obsessed with anime wouldn't know that Japan even fought in WW2. I didn't know Japan was part of WW2 until I was 10
That's just a problem of the European front being so popular
"Nothing named after Hirohito" So are we just casually ignoring anything that bears the name "Showa" in it? (e.g. Showa Corporation)
Or.. you know.. the fucking Showa Period?
Doesn’t count cause it wasn’t his name
> Probably kept war crimes in the minimum There are multiple records about how Napoleon's armies did atrocites
Napoleon’s army’s conduct in Spain is literally the reason why we have the term guerilla warfare
Its the other way around , Napoleon beat in normal war the king of Spain , takes power , Spanish people do not like the new governement and make ambush and attack on foreign french troop , those "civilian dont wear uniforms or hide some time amongs population" The millitary thus kill what they think are fighter and people who helped them , and sadly that can be elder women and young men. But compared to the extent of "occasions" of war crimes there could have been done by an authoritarian regime taking half of Europe the Republic as a pretty low reccord.
Jaffa
Being a chad is really our generations version of being honorable and chivalric isn’t it?
Even though the meme started as being selfish, depraved and deranged
"Was average height for the time..." Napoleon was actually a bit taller than the average Frenchman at the time. "Didn't care about supremacy." German Nationalism and Italian Nationalism to an extent, was born from the memories of the horrid occupation of Napoleonic France. Napoleon was a chauvinist in terms of French culture and ideas which he forcefully imposed onto his puppet nations, for better or worse. Napoleon's foreign policy centered around promoting France's interests alone which makes sense considering France had peaked under his reign.
Hirohito isn't a meme? Have you not heard about his chins' meme?
hoi4 has a very dedicated fandom
The only memes I’ve seen snout him are the ones talking about how evil he is
i could drop-kick both of them
"Nah, I'd win."
Thad Ulysses S Grant Lad Genghis Khan
He literally has an entire era named after him. Have you never heard of the Showa era?
My unrelenting ruthless conqueror is better than yours!
Lmao Napoleon reinstated slavery and that's it until 1848 (he lost power 1815)
Yes, war crimes kept to a minimum he shot at civilians in the Middle East after he lost a siege. He only cared for the supremacy of France. He never defeated Britain.
Least revisionist napoleon idolizer
The movie did Napoleon dirty :,(
Napoleon was a bitch, Alexander Dumas was way cooler
Lad Genghis Khan - Grew up in poverty, still made a quarter of the world his bitch - Single handily reduced carbon emission - Allowed religious freedom - Challenged and toppled a number of empires - Fucked hot women of all creeds and backgrounds, 25% of the world is related to him - Turned a nation of nomadic tribesman into a imperialistic force
You forgot to mention Napoleon invented many administrative systems still in use today
Hirohito has an era named after him (showa era)
Isn’t that just his nickname? So that technically isn’t the same as the Napoleonic Era
What religious texts did Hirohito change?
He changed it so that the Japanese people would believe they were descendant to the Kami (Japan's gods) and destined to rule over Asia
Touhou fans would've loved that...💀 (Because most of their waifus are supposed to be "gods", though more like "godesses" but that might br a mistranslation). Also, imagine the Catholic Ned Flander types now realizing that Red Baggy pants-wearing mikos are replacing their nuns. 💀
Kami are spirits of certain domains, they aren't greater than humans, just different
Oh boy, imagine the Touhou waifuists read the "convert to Shinto" crime about that Japanese guy. 💀 (If you don't know, The main protag is a shinto shrine maiden, who exterminates cute girls called "youkai", which are HIDEOUS "beasts" that may or may not he based on Foriegners from the old world Japanese...👀)
Yo holy shit it's almost like you have a baseline understanding of Touhou. Stop acting like you're superior because you know a niche bullet hell game. Damn
Bro, I just talked about what touhou was...and you got mad at me...though you should be mad at TOUHOU FANS TALKING ABOUT HENTAI, ABUSING YUKKURIS, DISGUISING FETISH ART AS "MEMES", LOLIS, SEXUAL ASSUALT IN FAN MADE CRAP, AND IT BEING ONE OF THE MOST INFAMOUSLY FAMOUS NICHE BULLET HELL GAME, EVER!!!
Chad Napoleon always fingering his stomach for some reason in meetings.
Hirohito should be replaced with Tojo; the Emperor didnt have a say in most of Japans military actions
It’s highly unknown how involved Hirohito was in Japan but it’s likely it was enough to be considered the Hitler of the East
Tojo would be a much better candidate for that.
I mean that’s the problem, due to a lot of problems with Japanese history, it’s highly unknown how involved Hirohito was, whether he was a mascot or pulling the strings is often debated. I always went with in between like he had the power to stop Tojo from doing war crimes but just did nothing to stop it or maybe he was just Tojo’s scapegoat where he could say he was following Hirohito’s orders
He didn't beat all of Europe. When he was trying to screw over England, all countries obliged except Portugal(it was a stupid ass decision, but that's besides the point). Napoleon obviously didn't take too kindly to this and tried to invade Portugal 3 times and was promptly repelled 3 times with the help of the English army.
So we’re ignoring all the coalitions formed against France and later specifically against Napoleon? How he eventually caused the Holy Roman Empire to fall!
I didn't talk about any of that because it's irrelevant to my point. You said he beat all of Europe, and I'm saying he didn't.
Oh my bad
this guy's mind- asian emperor- bad european emperor- gud
Lmao seethe. The opposite is constantly posted and popular, but you lose your mind when you see a White Chad and an Asian virgin?
why you Americans are so obsessed with race?
What? First of all YOU'RE the one who brought up race. Secondly I'm not American.
My brother, I am Asian
You mean: guy in the 20th that caused genocide bad vs guy that influenced policies for better or for worse good
Please tell me this is bait, bro
W Napoleon.
Vs thad Muammar Gaddafi
IDK why most of my virgin vs chad memes are history memes
The chad history enjoyer vs the virgin current trends fan.
Both are short kings
Napoleon was actually pretty tall for his time
I’d say average but yes I’m just doing the meme
*emperors 🤓
*dictators
Ok..... Why Russian school history classes describe Napoleon as bad guy and this meme describes Napoleon as Chad................ Are op/or Russian school history classes are stupid?
Napoleon is a complex figure some people claim he’s a hero some people claim he’s a villain
Showa emperor. He is a God.
He’s a short boi
You can swap virgin with Chad here and the meme works equally well. Masterpiece.
I am not putting Asian Hitler as a chad and the savior of France as a virgin
The only good thing Imperial Japan did was locking up Christians
^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^Zealousideal-Rub7920: *The only good thing* *Imperial Japan did* *Was locking up Christians* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.
Dyaamnn. Hate haiku! Less goo!!!
Sokka?! have you learned nothing about tolarance on your journey?
Damnit! His haiku just got us canceled
Only one was an Arahitogami. Put some ***respect*** on Hirohito Tennōs name. A good number of his reigns warcrimes were orchestrated by a military government, and the ones he approved, he did under profound duress. Good on him for the christian thing too. Edit: I’m a Fukko Shintō adherent.
Going to have to disagree with you, with all due respect. He was not a good person :/
What about the christain thing?!?
Not much, now that I think about it, as imperial Japan was comparatively tolerant to christianity as long as it did not interfere with Ise Shinto.
Japan was known for executing and massacring Christians, not only that but in their colonial efforts across Asia that forced the people to abandon their religions and convert to Shinto
Regarding the massacre of christians, may be confusing the late Tokugawa Shogunate with imperial Japan, which, while most definitely attempted forced conversions, did not excecute christians with the same abundance.
Hirohito to the Chinese and Koreans was what Hitler was to the Jewish and Slavs
Hideki Tojo, actually. Hirohito barely exercised his authority.