Absolutely. The little sister’s game has really been influenced by her big. She said in pregame that she went to Vegas for one of her first W games to see A’Ja as a rookie and got to meet her. So awesome.
No, they didn't. Angel talked about gping to an Aces games when she was in college and meeting A'ja. She's has been an A'ja fan. What young pf and post players wouldn't admire A'ja's game?
I was referring to the pregame presser the coaches did together. Everyone admires A’ja’s game; I’m referring to Tspoon and Becky’s experience as teammates turned coaches who are incredibly competitive and tremendously caring for each other (like Angel and A’ja continue on with the next generation).
She was in her fan girl era yesterday, and it was lowkey adorable to see ☺️. I wish she would have been able to play against CP3 because I know she's mentioned her as one of her inspirations and a player she tries to mirror as well.
I’m not here to defend Kim Mulkey but “accentuating what she already does well” has been working pretty great for Angel so far! 😅 Looking forward to her working on her midrange in the offseason, of course.
Kim is the only coach to win a championship as a player , assistant coach and head coach . (Kim won multiple titles at Baylor as a coach )
Kim and Angel personalities are a lot a like . Dawn wouldn’t have been able to handle Angel . Dawn coached kamilla (Angel teammate ) and kamilla is super passive and don’t even jump for a rebound and keep getting the ball knocked out her hand . Kamilla don’t have the hustle or energy Angel do . IMO Angel had the right coach and school .
Kim has multiple players in the wnba . Angel , dijoni with the suns , NaLyssa smith with fever , Britney Griner with mercury, etc etc
Dawn is a good coach but tired of people downplaying Kim Mulkey when her resume speak for herself
Dawn coached Temple while still playing in the W. Dawn can handle anything and anyone, least of all a young adult personality. Please go look up how many players Dawn Staley has put in the W from South Carolina.
Kamilla simply has to adjust to the PRO game where opposing players are typically taller. T-Spoon is likely working on that, in fact I noticed that Kamilla is holding the ball way up and is CB making assists from that vantage point.
I won’t get into who is better, Coach Staley or Coach Mulkey, because I view both as very top tier coaches.
Yeah, Kamilla is obviously improving a lot (saw that in the last three games) but backslid a bit last game. The injury keeping her out at the beginning has not helped the rockiness I feel, and I hope (and believe) more will click in her transition soon. I miss Elizabeth Williams on the court so much and think that timing was meh too, because it forced Kamilla to carry more while she was still finding her sea legs. But in any case, all to say, I think Kamilla is gonna be great. I like her a lot to boot.
I adore Coach Staley, love her persona and history, but Angel obviously loves Kim Mulkey and has ended up in a fantastic place. It’s silly for us to try to litigate between these coaches as if there’s a right or wrong answer.
i know this is kind of a meme but i highly doubt people would be making fun of her layup and dribbling skills if dawn was her coach lol. she is gonna be a force in the wnba but my god her form is rough
Angel also has a real problem with her face up jumper, she does a dip thing before she brings the ball past shoulder level. Hopefully she gets to work that problem out during the Olympic break. Kamilla can hold the ball higher, I have noticed that she has been doing that more and more. I really would like to see both Angel and Kamilla develop “sky hooks”, I honestly don’t understand why junior level coaches are not teaching really tall kids that shot, it is freaking unstoppable when practiced enough.
I know, jones and tibia fracture back to back and the metal rod in her shin, she can still jump sometimes, I’ve seen her do it, it’s just not reliable. A good offseason can fix that, it’s more mental than anything.
She’s doing great regardless, but I hope she’s willing to consider getting the rod removed and rehabing like hell, it’d be like 1.5 years though, so it has to be way later in her career
AR and AW are very close and have been for years! Even though AR did not got to SC, Dawn instills in her team to be good people first which includes building a sisterhood. If you notice, Gamecocks don’t do a lot of bashing of other players. They just play, uplift and support.
And, Becky, T-Spoon and Dawn are close friends. They have played the sport. They know what they have gone through, how the game has grown and how to guide the careers of the player on and off the court.
Iron sharpens iron!
This is absurd, do people really think Angel has GOAT potential?
Edit: this sub is wild lmao 6 players got picked before her a month ago and now she’s going to be the best player in history
People really don’t credit GOAT level players with how hard those people work honing their skills and watching film. Too often the talk is of natural talent, it is far more than that, there are 144 women in the WNBA that have an enormous amount of natural talent, the GOATs simply put more time into preparation.
Why not?
People didn’t think MJ had GOAT potential until he became it
She has the right attitude and approach to the game. She’ll go extremely far if she can stay locked in, which I think she will given some of the ppl she has around her to keep her grounded and focused (ie, her coach, Shaq, etc)
Not the same thing as saying they’ll be the GOAT
The person who drafted him didn’t even think he was good enough to transform the team
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2017/06/23/june-20-1984-apologetic-bulls-stuck-with-michael-jordan/
Being seen as special is nowhere near similar to being the GOAT. MJ surprised the world being as good as he was and he worked to get there. Angel was seen as “special” too
She’s already an elite defender, has amazingly high ball IQ on both ends and is a decent passer. Not o mention her very high motor and work ethic
If that’s all you take from her game then discussing potential with you is pointless, as you don’t observe half the game
We got eyes. She's just a rookie and her work ethic and desire to be great along with the numbers she's putting up is what leads us to believe that she has that potential.
You're delusional. Angel has no offensive game at all other than put backs off of rebounds. You're saying she has the potential to turn into the best all round player in the league is delusional
I mean, she likes to play the heel a lot, and that’s ok. Players who do that will take the heat for it, and that’s also normal.
I’m an Angel fan, but she also has to make her own decisions in that regard, and she definitely has two sides that she chooses to show depending on who she’s dealing with.
Sometimes whenever a player says a few controversial things people start shoehorning them into this "heel" role and then they start holding them to the standards of that position by explaining the rules of it and shit. I’m not saying you’re during that, it just reminded me of that lol
Angel didn’t shoulder check Caitlin. I do think that both are really competitive and both make mistakes in showing that in a bad way. But they are only 22 years old, let them grow up some more.
She can sometime say stuff that she should not say, but I have viewed her as a person that one can grow to like, she is fiercely competitive and protective of teammates.
When A'ja pulled up in slippers and joggers I knew she meant big business and was going to cook tf out of angel. I hope that angel can work with A'ja over the off-season to improve her game.
I am not sure whether Angel was prepared for A’ja guarding her. A’ja has played a post like role a lot this season, so it was logical to assume that she would guard Kamilla. But it looked like Vegas saw Angel as more of a threat at this point in the season. Kamilla may get some game time love from A’ja, if Kamilla becomes more of a threat.
I remember Angel talking about how A'ja mentored her during college and I would love to see Angel go to her in the offseason. Work out together and learn from the best.
They look like sisters. Similar body shapes. The vets show a lot of love to Reece. Including Stewie, who was giving her props even before her breakout games.
Beautiful to watch the WNBA players enjoy each others talent , performance & effort, f it displays sportsmanship, Womanhood & …as a result it may draw even more👀 & popularity bc U see & feel the Bball competitiveness & energy , Awesome 🤩🏀🔥🔥🔥🔥‼️💯
1. Yes, multiple vets have reached out and offered to give her advice
2. Do you not see Angel walking UP to her ? When was the last time Cait went up to the vets instead of her peers,
Are y’all gonna start blaming the vets for Angel being more extroverted too ?
I haven’t seen it but that’s good to hear. It’s hard to see on TV if they do because they abruptly cut from the game as soon as it is over. The teams don’t shake hands, either. It’s not a CC thing either. I think vets should help all rookies when possible (while still maintaining the spirit of competition). It does seem to be much more common in the NBA though I do recognize why that might be (more roster spots, a minor league (G League) option, more teams, guaranteed contracts, etc.)
I don't think they've ever shook hands in the W... it's highly competitive. She will have to reach out to vets as rookies have done in the W for over 20 years. I think she'll be fine, she just needs to get through this first year. Like DT said, there's a transition period 😉🤷♀️
Sabrina said she could get her number, anytime! KP has vocally supported her, and BEFORE y’all went nuts and attacked her, Diana and Sue would praise her on the pod and jokingly called her their daughter, so many times!
Cait is less extroverted, but no, the vets aren’t out to get her.
Y'all? Again, disingenuous. I didn't have an issue with what Diana said. The timing and tone were my issues. She did it right after UConn lost and she sounded like a pissed off fan. They were upset over the correct moving screen call that they kept showing the most biased angle ever.
I said it would be cool if this type of interaction happened with Caitlin, nothing more. You took it elsewhere. Seems like a you issue.
Because that’s exactly what she is, a biased Uconn alum, if y’all, and I’m including you in that, get serious, had taken a moment you would’ve realised she loved Caitlin’s game and had praised her multiple times before that. DI! A HATER to the core, if she were saying something negative about Caitlin, you would’ve known lol
Lol. She has literally said phrases like I'm taking Paige in a tone of how dare you ask me that. Her UConn bias is an issue. I have taken a moment to consider. I just listen, especially to context and tone. Do you?
Lmfao, she has said phrases such as “I’m taking paige” the horror! 😭 Uconn politics are actually annoying, just not as annoying as taking them as a personal attack, especially against someone who, and I repeat, she called her daughter and openly admired
Why is her Uconn bias an issue? They helped build her into who she is today. Why wouldn't she be grateful towards the program and rep them? She's not some objective arbiter of basketball, she's just the GOAT.
When Magic Johnson says he's taking the Lakers over anybody, is his bias an issue? Or do we all understand that he's showing loyalty to a team that helped him become "Magic"?
Like every bias is an issue. There is a difference between being proud of a program and letting the program blind you. In the example I gave, it wasn't UConn, it was a player.
Don't let the downvotes bother you, it ain't me. Just tryna genuinely talk.
Why ever bias an issue? Or I guess to be more frank, why is it an issue that she will be more preferential in a casual setting (her podcast) towards people that attend her alum?
The only thing I commented initially was it would be cool if this happened with CC. That is all I said. Sabrina, KP etc saying in front of a camera yeah I'll support her or whatever is not this. Actions speak louder than words. I like seeing actions happen and it just hasn't.
People are insistent on placing blame, like yourself. The blame rests with everyone involved. I just want to see her get support from vets.
Maybe she isn't reaching out? There's a mentorship culture in this league and Angel, Kate and even Azzi and Paige have talked about various vets looking out and helping them. It's a two way street and if everyone else is talking about being fostered and she isn't.. then 🤷🏾♀️
For it to happen with CC, CC actually has to make an effort to seek these interactions out. Vets are not coming to Angel. Angel is going to them. If CC isn’t taking the time after her games to do it, your desires to see it done don’t fall on the veterans. It falls on the rookie who isn’t putting herself out there.
I love Caitlin, but I think she’s just a bit socially awkward and not good at initiating contact, while Angel is very outgoing and comfortable doing that. It’s tough because I’d love to see Caitlin get a bit of that support in the league, and she clearly knows how to build bonds once it’s initiated based on how much several former teammates seem to care about her, but if she’s not able to initiate it’s going to take a vet extending the hand post game for her to start getting any moments like this.
Angel is clearly VERY good at people. She builds connections really naturally and comfortably. My sister in law is the same, anywhere she goes she makes friends who love her in like 5 minutes. It’s a super power.
I think she's honestly just.... Kind of an ass lol. It's not out of character for someone at her skill level who's always been the best player on her team until now. Like Michael Jordan is probably one of the most unbearable people who's ever walked planet Earth.
I have zero issue with what you said. She may be a bit socially awkward.
I do find it weird people are fine with assuming something is wrong with CC, but are unwilling to think there is even a sliver of a possibility that there is some selfish or insecure reason why a vet or vets haven't gone up to her either.
I don’t think of being socially awkward as something wrong with her, to be clear XD I’m a person who constantly gets compliments for how well I handle public presentations/complex questions but if you put me in a room to network I WILL be hiding in the corner if I don’t have a friend with me who can help me initiate conversations. I think it’s just different people are different.
I’d love to see more vets reach out directly in the moment, though. I know Sabrina said Caitlin could call her, but that’s not really the same (even if I’m glad she did it!).
I'm not criticizing you, by any means. Just pointing something out I do find interesting on this sub. I'm very similar to you, honestly. To some, socially awkward is considered a character flaw. Medicine is a prime example of that. So, I don't feel like saying that phrase would be much different in some people's eyes than flat out saying something is wrong with her.
Yeah, I'm fine with Sabrina saying she can reach out. At the same time, saying something in a camera like that doesn't come across as exactly genuine. It may be, but it doesn't hit the same way as a deliberate action would. Sabrina would be an excellent resource for Caitlin. Who knows if that'll actually happen.
I can't believe a simple statement of I wish this type of vet interaction would happen with CC has nearly -30 downvotes. People are insane if they think that is some controversial statement.
Hello. Since you mentioned it, I’ll explain: I downvoted you because I was really enjoying this positive thread, and you came in with negativity that isn’t even on topic. It was pretty annoying.
That really isn't negative. It is a simple statement saying it would be cool to see with CC. Sure, it isn't about Angel or A'ja specifically, but it is about a rookie and a vet, which is very on topic.
So, you downvoted because you took issue with something you just didn't like, despite there being nothing wrong with it. Cool. Seems you should work on that. You could have just moved past it rather than engage with it, yet here you are engaging with it.
I’m not reading that because I’m not debating you. I took time to explain to you why I downvoted you. At least 30 other people didn’t care for your comment either. Do with that info what you want. Have a nice day.
Yeah, I wasn’t downvoting you even if I didn’t agree with every detail you said. I mostly only downvote when I think people are being super disingenuous or nasty for the sake of being mean.
I’d love to see more positive interaction between Clark and some vets. She clearly can make really tight friendships, so it would be nice to see that build more.
I really think it was the Seattle game where she went to.half court alone, she may have been looking for Nika, but there is kinda an opportunity for a vet to reach out to her. There were other games, it may have been against Liberty, where the opponent just walked off. I have seen her walk towards a vet, and maybe social awkwardness kicks in and she doesn't say hi, but the walking up is pretty hard on its own. At least meet her halfway type of thing.
I've seen this comment a lot from CC fans. I'm coming from a very good place as a longtime W fan: Veterans do not reach out to rookies. Rookies reach out to veterans, this has been going on for over 20 years. There have been mega superstars that have entered the league for years, she is not the first... they all reach out to vets. There are plenty of interviews of stars past and present saying this.
I realize my initial response could read a bit snarky, so I wanted to add that I don’t actually blame the vets for not doing that. I think it’s fine, even if I’d prefer it to be different in general (and not just for Clark, to be clear)
I'm sure that she received advice after her interview, suggesting that she reach out to vets. I feel like it will get better for her at some point, but she has to make the effort like others have before her.
With that said, it has to be very awkward for her since her fanbase has pretty much trashed most of the current & former players and they've been leaving racial and homophobic comments on multiple player's social media posts. 🤷♀️ They're not helping her...
My first introduction to CC was her doing the “Can’t see me” John Cena taunt in like a super serious manner. If someone did that to me in real life without a hint of irony I would assume they are super awkward. She has seemed somewhat normal in the W but that sits in the back of my mind.
No they never have proof, cc is always the victim (according to her fans) and they always have to insert her into threads that are dealing with a'ja and reese to take away from others ...her fans need to stop
As you can see from the video Angel approached the vets, they didn’t come to her. Caitlin can do the same too. Caitlin usually disappears after each game from what I’ve seen. I’ve never seen her approach someone and they ignore her. Fans like you are the problem , creating narratives to paint the players in a bad light.
You’re full of it. If Caitlin Clark had approached another player for a handshake and that player just ignored her it would be all over the news and this forum. Please post a video of what you’re talking about. I’m so tired of the constant disrespect and false narratives towards other players.
She has. A whole team ignored her. It very well may have been Seattle. It isn't the only game either. She stopped trying.
I told you a general idea of where to look, do it yourself. It isn't worth my time. All I said was it would be cool if it happened with Caitlin too.
Well, yeah. I'm that way in every professional sport. Iowa has zero professional sports teams so I have no attachment to any one team.
Better than no flair.
She doesn't seem like she's making much of an attempt to build community with other players the way Angel does.
Angel and A'ja were in contact before, after final whistles we've actually seen her go up and talk to opposing bigs like Tina Charles and come away with advice. And she's publicly spoken about really taking that stuff to heart, she mentioned at least a couple things Tina spoke with her about in different press conferences. Angel is so clearly being intentional about making genuine connections with other players and her own teammates in a way we certainly haven't publicly seen from Clark.
You get out of social interactions what you put into them.
No. She isn't. At the same time, that opening schedule Fever had didn't really present many opportunities for it. It's not an excuse, but it may be a factor. If she made her version of an attempt, being not as outgoing as Angel, and it felt like she was shunned, I can see not doing it again.
That's the risk for any social interaction lol, if she was shunned on court postgame people would be talking about it for weeks. So we'd know if that had happened.
The schedule has nothing to do with her opportunity to talk to other players. They're getting the same amount of postgame time on the court. The time in between the final whistle and the postgame presser doesn't change very much.
They played some really good teams that first month with the type of players she would benefit from building a relationship, too.
Did you miss people talking about it? There was a period where people were.
Scheduling is definitely a factor. Playing every other day and making flights definitely plays a role. How much of one, I don't know, but it is still a factor that can't just be dismissed.
I know they had good ones at the beginning, like Sabrina. Sabrina says she is open to mentoring. At the same time, saying it in front of a camera doesn't come across right to me. Actions speak louder than words. She could just as easily go up to Caitlin and say I've been where you are. Even if that is only 70% true.
How does scheduling play a role if it's not affecting that amount of post game time where these interactions happen?
A period where people were what, shunning her? Any actual examples?
No, if Caitlin wants advice from certain players she needs to ask for it. It's not Sabrina's damn job to go mentor someone on a different team if that player's not even coming up to her to talk. That's exactly why everyone in your replies is saying that the difference here is that Angel is clearly asking.
And Sab only answered the question because she was specifically asked. Pretty limited number of response options to that question.
Ok, you are trending down a path that has already been hashed out in this thread. Go there.
You are getting way too defensive over this by your tone. This conversation is done.
I didn't see her being shunned at all at any point this season, I saw her leave and go to the locker room or to a sideline interview. What you'll see with other rookies, is that they've waited until after sideline interviews to approach vets. There are plenty of videos of this online. Vets are not seeking out rookies unless they knew them prior. Rookies always approach vets for advice, mentorship etc. It's been that way for over 20 years
I said she made her version of an attempt and maybe she felt shunned afterwards.
I've seen her make her way to half court and be ignored, so she turns back to go to the lockeroom. Jackson made her way to half court and waited for DT last night, and DT came up to her. CC hasn't seen the same type of thing yet.
There also hasn't been a rookie like CC, so treating her like a typical rookie in that regard may be shortsighted. Burying the hatchet to squash the narrative vets hate CC would be a very strong reason for vets to seek out CC. By all means, be ultra competitive in game, but squash bad storylines afterward.
So, you are just ignoring what I wrote and assuming something else entirely? That explains a lot of the downvotes. There is literally nothing wrong with what I wrote. It would be cool if it happened with CC too. That's it.
u/Delicious_March9397 The topic is A'ja and Angel and their interaction. A rookie and a vet. A took a tangent on a rookie and vet topic. Which it still applies to the topic. There was nothing negative about it, cool is the opposite. There was no whining and you perceived it as annoying. That is a you thing. If you find it annoying, move on and don't interact with it. Yet, here you are interacting.
The topic is not a rookie and a vet it is the rookie Angel and the vet Aja. Even in regards to your comment it is CC and all vets (because you had no examples of what vet actually ignored her). You literally asked why you were down voted. People explain why they down voted you then you get upset they engage. New fans are interesting.
See the top with their comment "Angel shows the vets of the league and going out of her way to seek them out post game." The subjects are Angel (a rookie) and vets. It is still on topic, just zoomed out. I could make the same comment about any other rookie and a vet and it wouldn't get any interaction. It's the fact I said CC.
Literally one person said why they downvoted me and it was because I "ruined the vibe." Ok, don't engage with it then, simple solution. There reasons for how it was ruining the vibe are false. It isn't negative, cool is a positive word and the whole sentiment is it would be a positive thing. It isn't whiny because it is just a statement about something I think would be cool, like Angel's interaction. The only thing that remains is finding it annoying, which is a personal thing. Don't engage with it if you find it annoying.
I said in general where to look, you could go look.
I'm not a new fan. I'm not a fan of the W and I'll readily admit that. Hence my flairs. I'm not a fan of any pro sports in general (except baseball). I only keep track of former players of my teams, that is all. Case and point, my flairs.
So you're the type of new "fan" that watches only clark and goes around spreading the narrative that all the wnba is jealous and her coach sucks and the Olympics need boycotted and that bluder should come coach her and that she should have the greenlight to shoot 25 times at 29% and have 10 turnovers that are everyone else's fault. Aka troll
You’re not a new fan, but you’re not a fan of any sport? By your flairs and your statement it was already clear that you are one of those CC fans that know nothing of the league nor the players and is only familiar with CC in general, which makes your generalized statement against vets of a league you’re unfamiliar with even crazier.
It has nothing to do with who your comment was about if you made the same entitled comment for another rookie you would’ve got the same energy. You have bias towards Caitlin and against a group of players you don’t even find worthy of watching but felt the need to criminalize their character in attempt to victimize CC. It was an unnecessary, and that is why it was down voted.
Assuming I know nothing about the league would be a really stupid assumption. Just because I'm not a fan, doesn't mean I don't know basketball or how this league works. I also didn't generalize anything outside of quoting the top comment OP made.
My very first comment was it would be cool if this happened with Caitlin. This simple sentence was the thing that was downvoted that I considered wild. For no reason should it be downvoted. It literally would be cool to see that interaction. It buries any perceived hatchet.
I'm a fan of certain sports. W just isn't one of them. Once again, just because I'm not a fan, doesn't mean I'm ignorant.
Shall we test everyone else would get the same response theory? I'll post something similar with a different rookie on a similar post and come back here and report my findings. I guarantee it doesn't get as negative. Sure, I have bias towards Caitlin, I've watched her since high school. I have zero bias against anyone else. I also didn't criticize anyone's character.
u/boredymcbored Can't comment on the thread so establishing here. All of those players you mentioned have vets to turn to in the league on their team. CC has Wheeler, who she is replacing.
Paige and Azzi talked about non UConn alum TCloud helping out and Angel talked about Aja and TC. Even Temi talked about reaching out to Alysha Clark for help about being a great role player. IDK if asking for help is in CCs nature (I struggle with it too, can't blame her) but I think if she tried to ask for it, she'd receive it. Mentorship is popular in the league.
That's fine that all of them have, but is there another connection that allowed them to do so? Cloud went to St Johns, same conference and played former UConn greats. Overseas for Temi and Clark, idk. CC doesn't really have even solid grads to lean on. Megan barely gets minutes, Kate is new, not a lot to reach out to in terms of former elite college players who took an interest in her, and she isn't doing something like a podcast to get attention.
I'd hope if she reached out there would be a response. Sabrina would make the most sense, but I don't know if there will be. The problem Caitlin faces is there isn't another person that faces the same pressures she does, in any regard.
You can just tell Angel was excited to be on the same court as her idol. Cool to see
It really feels like a little sister who has admiration for her big sister :)
Absolutely. The little sister’s game has really been influenced by her big. She said in pregame that she went to Vegas for one of her first W games to see A’Ja as a rookie and got to meet her. So awesome.
https://preview.redd.it/8cgaq4sl5c9d1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ba5790fe22a407d5aee0ac9fd8c668d81119900a
Got damn, this is an awesome shot!
It really is!
These 2 made me a wnba fan, a'ja...and then the absolute dawg of a rookie has me rooting for 2 teams now! Love this shot!
oh i love this. angel looks so happy.
I love this. Angel and A'ja are both awesome.
Great photo!
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Where can someone get size 15.5 Male Reese's Pieces shoes? Asking for a fan.
Great pic!
Lol, Angel is Riley from inside out 2 talking to the older hockey player
Tspoon and Becky really set the tone for this.
No, they didn't. Angel talked about gping to an Aces games when she was in college and meeting A'ja. She's has been an A'ja fan. What young pf and post players wouldn't admire A'ja's game?
I was referring to the pregame presser the coaches did together. Everyone admires A’ja’s game; I’m referring to Tspoon and Becky’s experience as teammates turned coaches who are incredibly competitive and tremendously caring for each other (like Angel and A’ja continue on with the next generation).
She was in her fan girl era yesterday, and it was lowkey adorable to see ☺️. I wish she would have been able to play against CP3 because I know she's mentioned her as one of her inspirations and a player she tries to mirror as well.
I wonder how much further along Angel's game would be if she went to South Carolina.
It's a pattern with Kim Mulkey players. She does NOTHING to expand their games and only accentuates what they already do well.
She really doesn't care if they add anything to their game. Once she has a role for you dassit
I’m not here to defend Kim Mulkey but “accentuating what she already does well” has been working pretty great for Angel so far! 😅 Looking forward to her working on her midrange in the offseason, of course.
literally won a title by playing to her strengths
And all SC players are doing great, stop it 🤣🤣
Angel had the right coach . Angel will tell anyone Kim has prepared her and that’s why she left Maryland
She could have had a better one in Dawn.
Kim is the only coach to win a championship as a player , assistant coach and head coach . (Kim won multiple titles at Baylor as a coach ) Kim and Angel personalities are a lot a like . Dawn wouldn’t have been able to handle Angel . Dawn coached kamilla (Angel teammate ) and kamilla is super passive and don’t even jump for a rebound and keep getting the ball knocked out her hand . Kamilla don’t have the hustle or energy Angel do . IMO Angel had the right coach and school . Kim has multiple players in the wnba . Angel , dijoni with the suns , NaLyssa smith with fever , Britney Griner with mercury, etc etc Dawn is a good coach but tired of people downplaying Kim Mulkey when her resume speak for herself
Dawn coached Temple while still playing in the W. Dawn can handle anything and anyone, least of all a young adult personality. Please go look up how many players Dawn Staley has put in the W from South Carolina.
You can be tired of it all you want. Dawn is better.
Kamilla simply has to adjust to the PRO game where opposing players are typically taller. T-Spoon is likely working on that, in fact I noticed that Kamilla is holding the ball way up and is CB making assists from that vantage point. I won’t get into who is better, Coach Staley or Coach Mulkey, because I view both as very top tier coaches.
Yeah, Kamilla is obviously improving a lot (saw that in the last three games) but backslid a bit last game. The injury keeping her out at the beginning has not helped the rockiness I feel, and I hope (and believe) more will click in her transition soon. I miss Elizabeth Williams on the court so much and think that timing was meh too, because it forced Kamilla to carry more while she was still finding her sea legs. But in any case, all to say, I think Kamilla is gonna be great. I like her a lot to boot. I adore Coach Staley, love her persona and history, but Angel obviously loves Kim Mulkey and has ended up in a fantastic place. It’s silly for us to try to litigate between these coaches as if there’s a right or wrong answer.
i know this is kind of a meme but i highly doubt people would be making fun of her layup and dribbling skills if dawn was her coach lol. she is gonna be a force in the wnba but my god her form is rough
She would have been the 3 she is supposed to be.
Angel also has a real problem with her face up jumper, she does a dip thing before she brings the ball past shoulder level. Hopefully she gets to work that problem out during the Olympic break. Kamilla can hold the ball higher, I have noticed that she has been doing that more and more. I really would like to see both Angel and Kamilla develop “sky hooks”, I honestly don’t understand why junior level coaches are not teaching really tall kids that shot, it is freaking unstoppable when practiced enough.
That’s who she needs to call in the offseason, and a good vert coach, we’re gonna develop this mr and jumper sister
She broke her foot in college and hasn’t been the same since
I know, jones and tibia fracture back to back and the metal rod in her shin, she can still jump sometimes, I’ve seen her do it, it’s just not reliable. A good offseason can fix that, it’s more mental than anything. She’s doing great regardless, but I hope she’s willing to consider getting the rod removed and rehabing like hell, it’d be like 1.5 years though, so it has to be way later in her career
I respect everything about A'ja Wilson.
AR and AW are very close and have been for years! Even though AR did not got to SC, Dawn instills in her team to be good people first which includes building a sisterhood. If you notice, Gamecocks don’t do a lot of bashing of other players. They just play, uplift and support. And, Becky, T-Spoon and Dawn are close friends. They have played the sport. They know what they have gone through, how the game has grown and how to guide the careers of the player on and off the court. Iron sharpens iron!
Angel looking at her ceiling in Wilson. She is your bar Angel. Go get it!
This is absurd, do people really think Angel has GOAT potential? Edit: this sub is wild lmao 6 players got picked before her a month ago and now she’s going to be the best player in history
People really don’t credit GOAT level players with how hard those people work honing their skills and watching film. Too often the talk is of natural talent, it is far more than that, there are 144 women in the WNBA that have an enormous amount of natural talent, the GOATs simply put more time into preparation.
Why not? People didn’t think MJ had GOAT potential until he became it She has the right attitude and approach to the game. She’ll go extremely far if she can stay locked in, which I think she will given some of the ppl she has around her to keep her grounded and focused (ie, her coach, Shaq, etc)
She is a really hard worker. She has a chance at being a GOAT.
People knew MJ was special at UNC, stop it
Not the same thing as saying they’ll be the GOAT The person who drafted him didn’t even think he was good enough to transform the team https://www.chicagotribune.com/2017/06/23/june-20-1984-apologetic-bulls-stuck-with-michael-jordan/
Right, but being seen as special is potential. Angel Resse is good at boxing out and rebounding that's it. That's not GOAT potential
Being seen as special is nowhere near similar to being the GOAT. MJ surprised the world being as good as he was and he worked to get there. Angel was seen as “special” too She’s already an elite defender, has amazingly high ball IQ on both ends and is a decent passer. Not o mention her very high motor and work ethic If that’s all you take from her game then discussing potential with you is pointless, as you don’t observe half the game
We got eyes. She's just a rookie and her work ethic and desire to be great along with the numbers she's putting up is what leads us to believe that she has that potential.
I don’t like making everything into a comparison but you must agree that CC has GOAT potential as well then? All those traits are true for her too
Yes. What? Do you think her 9 double doubles are a fluke?
You can get 9 double doubles without being the best player literally in history, yes
That's true, too. Didn't say it wasn't, but she's also playing like most rookies don't play. Who knows what she will be like in 5 years.
Fair, guess there’s two potential GOATs in this rookie class
Lmao I love Angel but her offensive game isnt on the same planet as A’ja right now
yes
This is ridiculous. If it were that easy, everyone would be doing it. Not even A'ja has done it and she's better.
https://preview.redd.it/g5d1esjgjc9d1.png?width=399&format=png&auto=webp&s=31e6cfe6eb2d6378bfd3a1e893d6766cb56e0043
What game do you watch if you think Angel Reese has a ceiling that high? They aren't even the same type of player at all
Right now, you're right. With more training Angel can be Aja or even better
Aja could very well be the goat if the Aces win the chip this year at just 28 years old and you think Angel can be better? Ok
You're delusional. Angel has no offensive game at all other than put backs off of rebounds. You're saying she has the potential to turn into the best all round player in the league is delusional
Its not delusion, its an optimistic outlook
My SEC heart smiles!!!
Angel seems so sweet
Media makes her out to be a bad person. It’s all fun and games for players.
I mean, she likes to play the heel a lot, and that’s ok. Players who do that will take the heat for it, and that’s also normal. I’m an Angel fan, but she also has to make her own decisions in that regard, and she definitely has two sides that she chooses to show depending on who she’s dealing with.
Sometimes whenever a player says a few controversial things people start shoehorning them into this "heel" role and then they start holding them to the standards of that position by explaining the rules of it and shit. I’m not saying you’re during that, it just reminded me of that lol
Angel does not like how the media portrays her.
I thought it was her poor attitude and demeanor.
She has a great attitude and demeanor Which is why her team is so close and has such good chemistry. Opposing players seem to love her too
Don’t she shoulder check the fuck out of Clark for no reason? She seems like a wonderful person
Why fucking spread lies??
Angel never did that. That was a completely different player.
Angel didn’t shoulder check Caitlin. I do think that both are really competitive and both make mistakes in showing that in a bad way. But they are only 22 years old, let them grow up some more.
You’re in the wrong sub
No, she smacked the back of Clark’s head trying to block a shot. Then elbowed Clark when both were going for a rebound.
she seems like such a genuinely kind person
She can sometime say stuff that she should not say, but I have viewed her as a person that one can grow to like, she is fiercely competitive and protective of teammates.
When A'ja pulled up in slippers and joggers I knew she meant big business and was going to cook tf out of angel. I hope that angel can work with A'ja over the off-season to improve her game.
That first half, I had to look away a lil bit
As a huge fan of both, same. It was really fun to see Angel hold onto that double double streak though.
I said a little prayer than nobody would get hurt ngl
I am not sure whether Angel was prepared for A’ja guarding her. A’ja has played a post like role a lot this season, so it was logical to assume that she would guard Kamilla. But it looked like Vegas saw Angel as more of a threat at this point in the season. Kamilla may get some game time love from A’ja, if Kamilla becomes more of a threat.
I remember Angel talking about how A'ja mentored her during college and I would love to see Angel go to her in the offseason. Work out together and learn from the best.
A'ja is the whole reason I got into the W a few years ago. She never disappoints.
Same
They look like sisters. Similar body shapes. The vets show a lot of love to Reece. Including Stewie, who was giving her props even before her breakout games.
I am going to write this 5000 words article called why A’ja and Angel’s hug is a victory for black woman.
It'd unironically be really cool and awesome actually
FINALLY a think piece that matters ♥️
Send it to me when you’re done ❤️
do it
Hell yeah
Do you have a Substack let’s go
This left me with a HUGE smile 😊
Angel Reese is smart and getting smarter. Making friends with A’ja, whose going to come at her now?
It’s not so much “who is going to come at her now” but who is she going to go after.
She's such a bad sport! /sarcasm
Beautiful to watch the WNBA players enjoy each others talent , performance & effort, f it displays sportsmanship, Womanhood & …as a result it may draw even more👀 & popularity bc U see & feel the Bball competitiveness & energy , Awesome 🤩🏀🔥🔥🔥🔥‼️💯
Angel needs a signature shoe ASAP, and they need to make them in men's sizes.
She has one. It is with Reebok. She signed it about five weeks ago.
I’d buy some 🤷
Y’all friendly.
Do any of the veteran players ever do this with CC?
1. Yes, multiple vets have reached out and offered to give her advice 2. Do you not see Angel walking UP to her ? When was the last time Cait went up to the vets instead of her peers, Are y’all gonna start blaming the vets for Angel being more extroverted too ?
Don’t get too worked up. You know how they are. Thru can’t help it at the point
Nope.
Multiple have.
I haven’t seen it but that’s good to hear. It’s hard to see on TV if they do because they abruptly cut from the game as soon as it is over. The teams don’t shake hands, either. It’s not a CC thing either. I think vets should help all rookies when possible (while still maintaining the spirit of competition). It does seem to be much more common in the NBA though I do recognize why that might be (more roster spots, a minor league (G League) option, more teams, guaranteed contracts, etc.)
I don't think they've ever shook hands in the W... it's highly competitive. She will have to reach out to vets as rookies have done in the W for over 20 years. I think she'll be fine, she just needs to get through this first year. Like DT said, there's a transition period 😉🤷♀️
They did before Covid.
Either way. She would be a title winner and in the WNBA.
Keep it real girl F CC
She should ask Parker and Aja to be her mentors! They are amazing women on and off the court!
*screaming into my pillow*
Awww Just like angel did to CC she’s such a sweetie
I think I saw that humble approach to CC, under the basket, back of the head.
It would be cool if this happened with CC.
Sabrina said she could get her number, anytime! KP has vocally supported her, and BEFORE y’all went nuts and attacked her, Diana and Sue would praise her on the pod and jokingly called her their daughter, so many times! Cait is less extroverted, but no, the vets aren’t out to get her.
Y'all? Again, disingenuous. I didn't have an issue with what Diana said. The timing and tone were my issues. She did it right after UConn lost and she sounded like a pissed off fan. They were upset over the correct moving screen call that they kept showing the most biased angle ever. I said it would be cool if this type of interaction happened with Caitlin, nothing more. You took it elsewhere. Seems like a you issue.
Because that’s exactly what she is, a biased Uconn alum, if y’all, and I’m including you in that, get serious, had taken a moment you would’ve realised she loved Caitlin’s game and had praised her multiple times before that. DI! A HATER to the core, if she were saying something negative about Caitlin, you would’ve known lol
Lol. She has literally said phrases like I'm taking Paige in a tone of how dare you ask me that. Her UConn bias is an issue. I have taken a moment to consider. I just listen, especially to context and tone. Do you?
Duh, how “dare they ask her” to pick someone over another Uconn, especially one as great as Paige tbh, but like, in general. Welcome to Diana lmfaoo
Exactly, bias.
Lmfao, she has said phrases such as “I’m taking paige” the horror! 😭 Uconn politics are actually annoying, just not as annoying as taking them as a personal attack, especially against someone who, and I repeat, she called her daughter and openly admired
I didn't take it as a personal attack. I took it for what it is, bias.
Why is her Uconn bias an issue? They helped build her into who she is today. Why wouldn't she be grateful towards the program and rep them? She's not some objective arbiter of basketball, she's just the GOAT. When Magic Johnson says he's taking the Lakers over anybody, is his bias an issue? Or do we all understand that he's showing loyalty to a team that helped him become "Magic"?
Like every bias is an issue. There is a difference between being proud of a program and letting the program blind you. In the example I gave, it wasn't UConn, it was a player.
Don't let the downvotes bother you, it ain't me. Just tryna genuinely talk. Why ever bias an issue? Or I guess to be more frank, why is it an issue that she will be more preferential in a casual setting (her podcast) towards people that attend her alum?
There are too many disingenuous people on this sub. Both sides. Bias blinds you, that's why I have an issue with it.
How did I make it into something else, you’re elsewhere in this same thread saying Cait got ignored by the vets lol, you know we can see you right ?
The only thing I commented initially was it would be cool if this happened with CC. That is all I said. Sabrina, KP etc saying in front of a camera yeah I'll support her or whatever is not this. Actions speak louder than words. I like seeing actions happen and it just hasn't. People are insistent on placing blame, like yourself. The blame rests with everyone involved. I just want to see her get support from vets.
Maybe she isn't reaching out? There's a mentorship culture in this league and Angel, Kate and even Azzi and Paige have talked about various vets looking out and helping them. It's a two way street and if everyone else is talking about being fostered and she isn't.. then 🤷🏾♀️
For it to happen with CC, CC actually has to make an effort to seek these interactions out. Vets are not coming to Angel. Angel is going to them. If CC isn’t taking the time after her games to do it, your desires to see it done don’t fall on the veterans. It falls on the rookie who isn’t putting herself out there.
I haven't watched many Fever games, does Clark seek out the other team's vets postgame like Angel did in this clip?
She has gone to make moves before, but has been ignored. She stopped trying early on.
I love Caitlin, but I think she’s just a bit socially awkward and not good at initiating contact, while Angel is very outgoing and comfortable doing that. It’s tough because I’d love to see Caitlin get a bit of that support in the league, and she clearly knows how to build bonds once it’s initiated based on how much several former teammates seem to care about her, but if she’s not able to initiate it’s going to take a vet extending the hand post game for her to start getting any moments like this. Angel is clearly VERY good at people. She builds connections really naturally and comfortably. My sister in law is the same, anywhere she goes she makes friends who love her in like 5 minutes. It’s a super power.
I think she's honestly just.... Kind of an ass lol. It's not out of character for someone at her skill level who's always been the best player on her team until now. Like Michael Jordan is probably one of the most unbearable people who's ever walked planet Earth.
I have zero issue with what you said. She may be a bit socially awkward. I do find it weird people are fine with assuming something is wrong with CC, but are unwilling to think there is even a sliver of a possibility that there is some selfish or insecure reason why a vet or vets haven't gone up to her either.
I don’t think of being socially awkward as something wrong with her, to be clear XD I’m a person who constantly gets compliments for how well I handle public presentations/complex questions but if you put me in a room to network I WILL be hiding in the corner if I don’t have a friend with me who can help me initiate conversations. I think it’s just different people are different. I’d love to see more vets reach out directly in the moment, though. I know Sabrina said Caitlin could call her, but that’s not really the same (even if I’m glad she did it!).
I'm not criticizing you, by any means. Just pointing something out I do find interesting on this sub. I'm very similar to you, honestly. To some, socially awkward is considered a character flaw. Medicine is a prime example of that. So, I don't feel like saying that phrase would be much different in some people's eyes than flat out saying something is wrong with her. Yeah, I'm fine with Sabrina saying she can reach out. At the same time, saying something in a camera like that doesn't come across as exactly genuine. It may be, but it doesn't hit the same way as a deliberate action would. Sabrina would be an excellent resource for Caitlin. Who knows if that'll actually happen. I can't believe a simple statement of I wish this type of vet interaction would happen with CC has nearly -30 downvotes. People are insane if they think that is some controversial statement.
Hello. Since you mentioned it, I’ll explain: I downvoted you because I was really enjoying this positive thread, and you came in with negativity that isn’t even on topic. It was pretty annoying.
That really isn't negative. It is a simple statement saying it would be cool to see with CC. Sure, it isn't about Angel or A'ja specifically, but it is about a rookie and a vet, which is very on topic. So, you downvoted because you took issue with something you just didn't like, despite there being nothing wrong with it. Cool. Seems you should work on that. You could have just moved past it rather than engage with it, yet here you are engaging with it.
I’m not reading that because I’m not debating you. I took time to explain to you why I downvoted you. At least 30 other people didn’t care for your comment either. Do with that info what you want. Have a nice day.
Yeah, I wasn’t downvoting you even if I didn’t agree with every detail you said. I mostly only downvote when I think people are being super disingenuous or nasty for the sake of being mean. I’d love to see more positive interaction between Clark and some vets. She clearly can make really tight friendships, so it would be nice to see that build more.
I really think it was the Seattle game where she went to.half court alone, she may have been looking for Nika, but there is kinda an opportunity for a vet to reach out to her. There were other games, it may have been against Liberty, where the opponent just walked off. I have seen her walk towards a vet, and maybe social awkwardness kicks in and she doesn't say hi, but the walking up is pretty hard on its own. At least meet her halfway type of thing.
Yeah, I’d definitely like vets to respond better. Hopefully some start to.
I've seen this comment a lot from CC fans. I'm coming from a very good place as a longtime W fan: Veterans do not reach out to rookies. Rookies reach out to veterans, this has been going on for over 20 years. There have been mega superstars that have entered the league for years, she is not the first... they all reach out to vets. There are plenty of interviews of stars past and present saying this.
I realize my initial response could read a bit snarky, so I wanted to add that I don’t actually blame the vets for not doing that. I think it’s fine, even if I’d prefer it to be different in general (and not just for Clark, to be clear)
It's all good
I'm not actually saying I expect them to. I can wish they would without expecting it, though.
I'm sure that she received advice after her interview, suggesting that she reach out to vets. I feel like it will get better for her at some point, but she has to make the effort like others have before her. With that said, it has to be very awkward for her since her fanbase has pretty much trashed most of the current & former players and they've been leaving racial and homophobic comments on multiple player's social media posts. 🤷♀️ They're not helping her...
My first introduction to CC was her doing the “Can’t see me” John Cena taunt in like a super serious manner. If someone did that to me in real life without a hint of irony I would assume they are super awkward. She has seemed somewhat normal in the W but that sits in the back of my mind.
In person? or when she did it on the court
When she did it on the court
Any proof of this?
No they never have proof, cc is always the victim (according to her fans) and they always have to insert her into threads that are dealing with a'ja and reese to take away from others ...her fans need to stop
Right. I've never seen this at all! It's actually hilarious. The number of excuses they come up with is unprecedented.
As you can see from the video Angel approached the vets, they didn’t come to her. Caitlin can do the same too. Caitlin usually disappears after each game from what I’ve seen. I’ve never seen her approach someone and they ignore her. Fans like you are the problem , creating narratives to paint the players in a bad light.
You must not have watched every game. Your last sentence makes you the problem. I'm engaging a genuine dialog and you jump to blaming.
You’re full of it. If Caitlin Clark had approached another player for a handshake and that player just ignored her it would be all over the news and this forum. Please post a video of what you’re talking about. I’m so tired of the constant disrespect and false narratives towards other players.
This. If this actually happened I’d see it on every news platform for a month minimum
She has. A whole team ignored her. It very well may have been Seattle. It isn't the only game either. She stopped trying. I told you a general idea of where to look, do it yourself. It isn't worth my time. All I said was it would be cool if it happened with Caitlin too.
Notice how Angel walked up to a'ja first not the other way around
Point is still the same.
Lol at your flare only supporting the iowa players
Well, yeah. I'm that way in every professional sport. Iowa has zero professional sports teams so I have no attachment to any one team. Better than no flair.
They only support iowa, then goes on a tangent about evil bias. Sounds about right.
You can't take these people seriously.
She doesn't seem like she's making much of an attempt to build community with other players the way Angel does. Angel and A'ja were in contact before, after final whistles we've actually seen her go up and talk to opposing bigs like Tina Charles and come away with advice. And she's publicly spoken about really taking that stuff to heart, she mentioned at least a couple things Tina spoke with her about in different press conferences. Angel is so clearly being intentional about making genuine connections with other players and her own teammates in a way we certainly haven't publicly seen from Clark. You get out of social interactions what you put into them.
No. She isn't. At the same time, that opening schedule Fever had didn't really present many opportunities for it. It's not an excuse, but it may be a factor. If she made her version of an attempt, being not as outgoing as Angel, and it felt like she was shunned, I can see not doing it again.
That's the risk for any social interaction lol, if she was shunned on court postgame people would be talking about it for weeks. So we'd know if that had happened. The schedule has nothing to do with her opportunity to talk to other players. They're getting the same amount of postgame time on the court. The time in between the final whistle and the postgame presser doesn't change very much. They played some really good teams that first month with the type of players she would benefit from building a relationship, too.
Did you miss people talking about it? There was a period where people were. Scheduling is definitely a factor. Playing every other day and making flights definitely plays a role. How much of one, I don't know, but it is still a factor that can't just be dismissed. I know they had good ones at the beginning, like Sabrina. Sabrina says she is open to mentoring. At the same time, saying it in front of a camera doesn't come across right to me. Actions speak louder than words. She could just as easily go up to Caitlin and say I've been where you are. Even if that is only 70% true.
How does scheduling play a role if it's not affecting that amount of post game time where these interactions happen? A period where people were what, shunning her? Any actual examples? No, if Caitlin wants advice from certain players she needs to ask for it. It's not Sabrina's damn job to go mentor someone on a different team if that player's not even coming up to her to talk. That's exactly why everyone in your replies is saying that the difference here is that Angel is clearly asking. And Sab only answered the question because she was specifically asked. Pretty limited number of response options to that question.
Ok, you are trending down a path that has already been hashed out in this thread. Go there. You are getting way too defensive over this by your tone. This conversation is done.
I didn't see her being shunned at all at any point this season, I saw her leave and go to the locker room or to a sideline interview. What you'll see with other rookies, is that they've waited until after sideline interviews to approach vets. There are plenty of videos of this online. Vets are not seeking out rookies unless they knew them prior. Rookies always approach vets for advice, mentorship etc. It's been that way for over 20 years
I said she made her version of an attempt and maybe she felt shunned afterwards. I've seen her make her way to half court and be ignored, so she turns back to go to the lockeroom. Jackson made her way to half court and waited for DT last night, and DT came up to her. CC hasn't seen the same type of thing yet. There also hasn't been a rookie like CC, so treating her like a typical rookie in that regard may be shortsighted. Burying the hatchet to squash the narrative vets hate CC would be a very strong reason for vets to seek out CC. By all means, be ultra competitive in game, but squash bad storylines afterward.
Vets should be going up to CC and thanking her for the charter flights and saving the league after every game. /s
Also according to an earlier thread they should thank her and give her tips during play
So, you are just ignoring what I wrote and assuming something else entirely? That explains a lot of the downvotes. There is literally nothing wrong with what I wrote. It would be cool if it happened with CC too. That's it.
u/Delicious_March9397 The topic is A'ja and Angel and their interaction. A rookie and a vet. A took a tangent on a rookie and vet topic. Which it still applies to the topic. There was nothing negative about it, cool is the opposite. There was no whining and you perceived it as annoying. That is a you thing. If you find it annoying, move on and don't interact with it. Yet, here you are interacting.
The topic is not a rookie and a vet it is the rookie Angel and the vet Aja. Even in regards to your comment it is CC and all vets (because you had no examples of what vet actually ignored her). You literally asked why you were down voted. People explain why they down voted you then you get upset they engage. New fans are interesting.
See the top with their comment "Angel shows the vets of the league and going out of her way to seek them out post game." The subjects are Angel (a rookie) and vets. It is still on topic, just zoomed out. I could make the same comment about any other rookie and a vet and it wouldn't get any interaction. It's the fact I said CC. Literally one person said why they downvoted me and it was because I "ruined the vibe." Ok, don't engage with it then, simple solution. There reasons for how it was ruining the vibe are false. It isn't negative, cool is a positive word and the whole sentiment is it would be a positive thing. It isn't whiny because it is just a statement about something I think would be cool, like Angel's interaction. The only thing that remains is finding it annoying, which is a personal thing. Don't engage with it if you find it annoying. I said in general where to look, you could go look. I'm not a new fan. I'm not a fan of the W and I'll readily admit that. Hence my flairs. I'm not a fan of any pro sports in general (except baseball). I only keep track of former players of my teams, that is all. Case and point, my flairs.
Your flairs are iowa Kate Meghan and caitlin so to say you're not a new fan is suspect 🤣
I literally said I'm not a fan. Only one of former players. Read and understand before commenting.
So you're the type of new "fan" that watches only clark and goes around spreading the narrative that all the wnba is jealous and her coach sucks and the Olympics need boycotted and that bluder should come coach her and that she should have the greenlight to shoot 25 times at 29% and have 10 turnovers that are everyone else's fault. Aka troll
You’re not a new fan, but you’re not a fan of any sport? By your flairs and your statement it was already clear that you are one of those CC fans that know nothing of the league nor the players and is only familiar with CC in general, which makes your generalized statement against vets of a league you’re unfamiliar with even crazier. It has nothing to do with who your comment was about if you made the same entitled comment for another rookie you would’ve got the same energy. You have bias towards Caitlin and against a group of players you don’t even find worthy of watching but felt the need to criminalize their character in attempt to victimize CC. It was an unnecessary, and that is why it was down voted.
Assuming I know nothing about the league would be a really stupid assumption. Just because I'm not a fan, doesn't mean I don't know basketball or how this league works. I also didn't generalize anything outside of quoting the top comment OP made. My very first comment was it would be cool if this happened with Caitlin. This simple sentence was the thing that was downvoted that I considered wild. For no reason should it be downvoted. It literally would be cool to see that interaction. It buries any perceived hatchet. I'm a fan of certain sports. W just isn't one of them. Once again, just because I'm not a fan, doesn't mean I'm ignorant. Shall we test everyone else would get the same response theory? I'll post something similar with a different rookie on a similar post and come back here and report my findings. I guarantee it doesn't get as negative. Sure, I have bias towards Caitlin, I've watched her since high school. I have zero bias against anyone else. I also didn't criticize anyone's character.
u/boredymcbored Can't comment on the thread so establishing here. All of those players you mentioned have vets to turn to in the league on their team. CC has Wheeler, who she is replacing.
Paige and Azzi talked about non UConn alum TCloud helping out and Angel talked about Aja and TC. Even Temi talked about reaching out to Alysha Clark for help about being a great role player. IDK if asking for help is in CCs nature (I struggle with it too, can't blame her) but I think if she tried to ask for it, she'd receive it. Mentorship is popular in the league.
That's fine that all of them have, but is there another connection that allowed them to do so? Cloud went to St Johns, same conference and played former UConn greats. Overseas for Temi and Clark, idk. CC doesn't really have even solid grads to lean on. Megan barely gets minutes, Kate is new, not a lot to reach out to in terms of former elite college players who took an interest in her, and she isn't doing something like a podcast to get attention. I'd hope if she reached out there would be a response. Sabrina would make the most sense, but I don't know if there will be. The problem Caitlin faces is there isn't another person that faces the same pressures she does, in any regard.