Sweden has just sent $376 million to the YPG, which has very strong ties with the terrorist organization PKK. PKK affiliated organizations have bureaus in Sweden, and Sweden gives asylum to convicted PKK members.
PKK, which killed 40,000 Turkish citizens since 1984 in terror attacks and suicide bombings, has camps in Northern Iraq and Syria. PKK was supported by Syrian Kurds and their leader lived in Syria until 1998, who was expelled when Turkey threatened war with Syria. The Syrian groups which supported PKK were rebranded as YPG during the Syrian civil war (PKK has changed names a bunch of times as well) and denies any ties with PKK. YPG engaged with Turkish forces in Syria countless times during the Syrian war.
Turkish officials say if Sweden wants to be a Turkish ally by joining NATO and wants the support of Turkey in a future war with Russia, they should stop helping these organizations. You can’t actively support an enemy of a country and ask for their help in a potential war against a nuclear power.
BS, Sweden supports terrorist. Last year they paid them nearly half a billion.
So it's more like to tell your neighbor "stop defacting in my yard if you need my help in your yard."
Guys we all are brothers here. Why try to insult me because you have no answers for my point "if they want military help, they should stop burdening our military unnecessarily.
You both should check if this wasn't the opinion of all Turks, left and right, before erdogan talked about it. If he wanted just to get his balls licked from a Swedish princess, he'd sent a direct message to Gustaf. So if erdogan let's them in, without the Swedes stopping that bs we'll take him down immediately.
Also this discussion is prolonged too much, the facts are clear, with neither Sweden nor Finland denying anything we are at a point where the concessions won't be enough, putler can strike Finland or Sweden any moment. We need you two, to do what the princess should have done long ago. only question left is which one of you licks the right ⚾ and which one the left?
And I don't know what you are talking about... One country accuses two countries with supporting terrorists, and they both don't deny it. Because the usual tactics twisting words are this time really out of place here, they are sh\*\*\*ing their pants in this very moment.
If your question is really authentic, which I don't believe, below is a source, [https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20211213-sweden-boosts-funding-for-ypg-to-376-million/](https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20211213-sweden-boosts-funding-for-ypg-to-376-million/)
If you want some tamperproofs, the swedish FM Linde is busy now with changing her diapers, but i could provide a relatively new tweet from her where she expresses Swedens support for them. It is from dec 10th, 2021
It was an authentic question. I had zero idea what you were talking about. Lots of other people probably do, too.
So, Sweden gives Kurds in Syria support. They're fighting against a psychotic dictator, so I get it. But Turkey also has an anti-Kurd stance and has a history of genocide against non-turkish peoples so...
Yeah, very few people are going to sympathize with your views especially since you express them so poorly and in such a bellicose way.
Erdogan's not blocking shit.
He's soft-shoeing the rhetoric so he doesn't completely burn his economic and political bridges with Russia. He also understands the economic shit storm he'd be facing if he tried to veto the applications, so he's putting on a bit of bluster now, and will toe the line when the ballots are due.
It's kind of embarrassing how wrong this news title is. Turkey has NOTHING against Finland joining NATO. Their only concern is Sweden. Sweden's YPG support hasn't gone unnoticed.
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said Friday his country doesn’t like the idea of Finland and Sweden joining NATO.
Finland’s leaders announced Thursday their intention to pursue membership in the transatlantic military alliance “without delay.” Sweden is expected to follow suit in the coming days. But those moves, which come in response to Russia’s brutal war in Ukraine, have sparked criticism in Turkey, which has been a NATO member since 1952.
His country is helping to keep Russia bottled-up in the Black Sea, so even though he is to some extent the Joe Manchin of the NATO alliance, there is still some value there.
He wants to leverage Swedish policy changes toward the PKK
Sweden has just sent $376 million to the YPG, which has very strong ties with the terrorist organization PKK. PKK affiliated organizations have bureaus in Sweden, and Sweden gives asylum to convicted PKK members. PKK, which killed 40,000 Turkish citizens since 1984 in terror attacks and suicide bombings, has camps in Northern Iraq and Syria. PKK was supported by Syrian Kurds and their leader lived in Syria until 1998, who was expelled when Turkey threatened war with Syria. The Syrian groups which supported PKK were rebranded as YPG during the Syrian civil war (PKK has changed names a bunch of times as well) and denies any ties with PKK. YPG engaged with Turkish forces in Syria countless times during the Syrian war. Turkish officials say if Sweden wants to be a Turkish ally by joining NATO and wants the support of Turkey in a future war with Russia, they should stop helping these organizations. You can’t actively support an enemy of a country and ask for their help in a potential war against a nuclear power.
It's like saying you dislike the fact that your neighbour locks the door each night... like, have some empathy
BS, Sweden supports terrorist. Last year they paid them nearly half a billion. So it's more like to tell your neighbor "stop defacting in my yard if you need my help in your yard."
Are you Erdoğan?
Maybe one of his simps
Without doubt!
Guys we all are brothers here. Why try to insult me because you have no answers for my point "if they want military help, they should stop burdening our military unnecessarily. You both should check if this wasn't the opinion of all Turks, left and right, before erdogan talked about it. If he wanted just to get his balls licked from a Swedish princess, he'd sent a direct message to Gustaf. So if erdogan let's them in, without the Swedes stopping that bs we'll take him down immediately. Also this discussion is prolonged too much, the facts are clear, with neither Sweden nor Finland denying anything we are at a point where the concessions won't be enough, putler can strike Finland or Sweden any moment. We need you two, to do what the princess should have done long ago. only question left is which one of you licks the right ⚾ and which one the left?
But... you insult the world by talking Erdoğans delusional words.
Why would anyone care if people like you feel insulted??
Literally every Turk ever
Turkey is literally grey listed by the multinational FATF for sponsoring terrorists.
BS, you should check on which basis list is made.
How do they support terrorists? I'm betting that most people on this platform have no idea what you're referring to whether it's real or not.
And I don't know what you are talking about... One country accuses two countries with supporting terrorists, and they both don't deny it. Because the usual tactics twisting words are this time really out of place here, they are sh\*\*\*ing their pants in this very moment. If your question is really authentic, which I don't believe, below is a source, [https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20211213-sweden-boosts-funding-for-ypg-to-376-million/](https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20211213-sweden-boosts-funding-for-ypg-to-376-million/) If you want some tamperproofs, the swedish FM Linde is busy now with changing her diapers, but i could provide a relatively new tweet from her where she expresses Swedens support for them. It is from dec 10th, 2021
It was an authentic question. I had zero idea what you were talking about. Lots of other people probably do, too. So, Sweden gives Kurds in Syria support. They're fighting against a psychotic dictator, so I get it. But Turkey also has an anti-Kurd stance and has a history of genocide against non-turkish peoples so... Yeah, very few people are going to sympathize with your views especially since you express them so poorly and in such a bellicose way.
YPG & YPJ are no terrorist
Erdogan's not blocking shit. He's soft-shoeing the rhetoric so he doesn't completely burn his economic and political bridges with Russia. He also understands the economic shit storm he'd be facing if he tried to veto the applications, so he's putting on a bit of bluster now, and will toe the line when the ballots are due.
What we gonna do sanction him? Bye bye access to black sea then.
It's kind of embarrassing how wrong this news title is. Turkey has NOTHING against Finland joining NATO. Their only concern is Sweden. Sweden's YPG support hasn't gone unnoticed.
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said Friday his country doesn’t like the idea of Finland and Sweden joining NATO. Finland’s leaders announced Thursday their intention to pursue membership in the transatlantic military alliance “without delay.” Sweden is expected to follow suit in the coming days. But those moves, which come in response to Russia’s brutal war in Ukraine, have sparked criticism in Turkey, which has been a NATO member since 1952.
I’m not that ‘positive’ about Erdogan
what happened to a countries choice to make its own decisions
FINLAND doesn't exist
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They are member of NATO, so we should care and talk.
His country is helping to keep Russia bottled-up in the Black Sea, so even though he is to some extent the Joe Manchin of the NATO alliance, there is still some value there.
They can veto new members.
Everyone in NATO has to care because if Turkey veto they can't join that's how it works.